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Title: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on August 17, 2010, 07:30:38 pm
Figured I'd shoot these before I had them mounted up. They're Alpil W12 reps made by RAYS.

Had them shipped in from Japan. They were second hand so I saved a packet, and they were only used the once for an af imp magazine photoshoot. Conti Extreme Contact DWs will be fitted later today. They're 10kgs a pop, so it's a 2kg saving per corner. These also have a much better build quality.

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Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: monte on August 17, 2010, 07:32:45 pm
WOW Nice wheels mate  :happy2: Nice photo skills too  :notworthy:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Greeners on August 17, 2010, 08:00:51 pm
Oh my oh my!!  :drool: :drool:

I just had a trouser moment!!  :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Saint Steve on August 17, 2010, 08:04:15 pm
WOW Nice wheels mate  :happy2: Nice photo skills too  :notworthy:

x2
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: monte on August 17, 2010, 08:07:40 pm
They look massssive  :laugh: are they 19's???
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: danishmkvgti on August 17, 2010, 08:07:58 pm
Oh my oh my!!  :drool: :drool:

I just had a trouser moment!!  :notworthy: :notworthy:
 

X 2  :drool:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on August 17, 2010, 08:32:51 pm
They look massssive  :laugh: are they 19's???

Yep. 19s. They're just my street wheel. Have 18s for the fun stuff.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: mortygttdi on August 17, 2010, 08:56:02 pm
very nice John can't wait to see them on the car :happy2:

Darren
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: monte on August 17, 2010, 09:10:07 pm
They look massssive  :laugh: are they 19's???

Yep. 19s. They're just my street wheel. Have 18s for the fun stuff.

Are they 19" Monza reps on your signature picture mate? They look big too  :happy2:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: stealthwolf on August 17, 2010, 09:12:33 pm
Would love to see the car rimmed up with 19" Monzas
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: john_o on August 17, 2010, 09:46:37 pm
monza style in 19's  :drool:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on August 18, 2010, 01:57:02 am
Monte, yes, those are 19"s too. Got them from AK Tuning in the US (when they use to be around). I'm a big Monza fan. Thanks for all the compliments guys. Will have pics with them fitted over the next 2 weeks or so.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: monte on August 18, 2010, 10:17:09 am
Monte, yes, those are 19"s too. Got them from AK Tuning in the US (when they use to be around). I'm a big Monza fan. Thanks for all the compliments guys. Will have pics with them fitted over the next 2 weeks or so.

Monza's look amazing on Black Gti's  :notworthy: 19" ones are just the cherry on top of the icing IMO  :notworthy: 

Your new wheels will look perfect mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Gene Hunt on August 18, 2010, 11:28:35 am
Not a Monza fan but in 19'' with the black inserts  :drool:.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: CAPTAIN BRITAIN on August 18, 2010, 03:19:06 pm
  :happy2:  Big Monza fan here, Love the W12 19's, Wish vw did an oem version in 19" size.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: jt1 on August 18, 2010, 08:15:42 pm
Think i just did a sex wee :drool: :drool: :drool:

Very very nice rims :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Top Cat on August 19, 2010, 12:30:32 pm
Oh my!  :notworthy:

I remember when we started the forum somebody posted a link up to these wheels in the land of the rising sun, there were lots of colour variants as well.

Need thousands of pics of these on your car.   :love:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: pipston on August 19, 2010, 01:39:25 pm
Think i just did a sex wee :drool: :drool: :drool:

+1

are you able to post where you sourced these...i cant read japanese!
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on August 23, 2010, 03:22:40 pm
Thanks guys. I had these fitted today, but I'm not sure when I'm going to get a chance to take some pics. It's been raining, and the car is a mess.  :sad1:

Strangely, the wheels are immaculately clean. They look so out of place. I'll give it a wash and sort something out. Unfortunately my Oettinger bumper and grill is temporarily off too (stock one on for the interim), so I'll see what I can do. Would rather hold off till it's all back together as I'd intended it.

Really liking how they look though. Love the extremely concave centre area. Looks great at an angle. Will update soon.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: dajonic on August 23, 2010, 03:33:32 pm
phwoar...those are in the words of a bristolian gert lush! Now time to google and find another set.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Gene Hunt on August 23, 2010, 03:37:51 pm
Just post a pic please  :mad:  :grin:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on August 23, 2010, 04:00:01 pm
phwoar...those are in the words of a bristolian gert lush! Now time to google and find another set.

I had to look up what that meant!  :grin:

are you able to post where you sourced these...i cant read japanese!

I got these via a company called Import Monster. They are an Australian based importer of JDM type stuff. They ship things from Japan to Australia mostly, but I'm pretty sure they do ship things worldwide. The site translates the Japanese into 'Engrish'. It's enough to get by on for the most part, but it can be difficult to understand.

This set was a bit of a one-off as they were used in a photoshoot for a Japanese magazine called af imp http://autofashion.com/imp/ (http://autofashion.com/imp/). After the shoot, they put them up for auction of Yahoo Japan. I was searching high and low and got lucky with my timing I guess. I haven't seen another set on there since. Cost me AUD$1100 less that what I was later quoted by another importer. Although they were brand new and would have been EMS'd instead of shipped. It was a hell of a wait, but worth that kind of money.

My only guess would be to speak with a local JDM type importer. They could probably line something up with Newing/Alpil.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on August 23, 2010, 04:52:18 pm
Just post a pic please  :mad:  :grin:

 :booty:

This is the best I can offer at the moment...

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Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: JJ on August 23, 2010, 05:08:50 pm
Eeeeew, I've just had a gentleman crisis!  They look stunning.  :happy2:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: monte on August 23, 2010, 05:21:54 pm
WOW, they are stunning  :drool:

Can I have dibs on your old monza's please?  :notworthy:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on August 23, 2010, 05:24:37 pm
LOL. The shipping would be worth more than the wheels themselves. Except for the fact I had them powder coated to look like the MK6 Detroits. You can pick up similar sets to my old reps on German ebay. Shipping to the UK would be a hell of a lot less too. Worth noting that they were a relatively soft wheel. You get what you pay for I guess.

That said, they easily cleared my Brembo GT 355 brake kit.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on August 23, 2010, 05:55:48 pm
The W12's needed a 5mm spacer and it's a right pain trying to find conical 14 x 1.5 32mm security lug bolts. I'm now contemplating machining 3mm off some 35mm security lugs I have which match my 28mm rears. Not heard of it being done before myself, but I'd prefer not find my 2 front wheels replaced with bricks. Anybody know if that's safe? I'm reluctant to run 28mm bolts with 5mm spacers for obvious reasons. Even thought they are quality bolts.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: winrya on August 23, 2010, 06:40:53 pm
I'm trying to reserve judgment until i see more pics but I think they may be the nicest wheels I've ever seen on the mk5. 

More pics please :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: monte on August 23, 2010, 07:56:04 pm
LOL. The shipping would be worth more than the wheels themselves. Except for the fact I had them powder coated to look like the MK6 Detroits. You can pick up similar sets to my old reps on German ebay. Shipping to the UK would be a hell of a lot less too. Worth noting that they were a relatively soft wheel. You get what you pay for I guess.

That said, they easily cleared my Brembo GT 355 brake kit.

 :ashamed: :ashamed: :ashamed: Just noticed you are in Sydney  :grin: Oh well, I tried.

Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Greeners on August 23, 2010, 08:55:51 pm
I'm trying to reserve judgment until i see more pics but I think they may be the nicest wheels I've ever seen on the mk5. 



+ 1  :notworthy:

Immense looking wheels, I don't think I have or ever will see a better rim on a MK5. Right up my street that!!  :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Andy on August 23, 2010, 09:35:00 pm
 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:lovel  them alloys
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Rich on August 23, 2010, 10:47:20 pm
 :worthless:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: N8KOW on September 11, 2010, 03:04:56 pm
Proper pics please.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: dmac1969 on September 11, 2010, 06:41:42 pm
Gorgeous wheels mate , I cant wait to see the full photoshoot!
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: MR02LOW on September 15, 2010, 01:54:45 pm
 :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:

pics please choppy choppy
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on September 16, 2010, 10:12:47 am
Photos will be done soon boys. Just waiting on a few very small things to come together. In the mean time, these arrived thanks to Patrick (pat15312).

Thanks for your patience with getting these down to me Pat.  :congrats:
You did a stellar job in wrapping them up for their long journey.

And Dave, your knowledge and skill is amazing.  :congrats:
I'm very sad to see you will be slowing your efforts down, but at least the mrs will be happy.

My woman keeps hassling me for her garage spot back too. I promised next week, but we'll see. :wink:

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Will hopefully have some proper full exterior shots by next weekend.  :happy2:

There are some other surprises for the interior I have over the next few months (which some of my may know by word of mouth). Can't wait till my project finally all comes together.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: MR02LOW on September 16, 2010, 02:06:00 pm
mate, your photography skill are amazing!!

nice brakes toooooo  :drool: :drool: :drool:

 :happy2:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: .:GTI|SUNNY:. on September 16, 2010, 03:48:28 pm
WOW!!!  :drool:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Ed30-Abz on September 16, 2010, 09:58:01 pm
OMG - Those wheels look amazing. Can't wait for more pics  :surprised:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: pat15312 on October 01, 2010, 11:25:34 am
Those brakes look nice mate ;)
Yeh I was paranoid about them getting to you scratched or marred in any way so made sure they were wrapped effectivley twice lol.
Glad they got to you ok and I must say they look even better than when I had them!
Your photography skills are pretty awesome! Much better than my iPhone efforts lol.
GET THEM ON THE CAR! Can't wait to see them :)
DaveB did an awesome job on these; big well done to him and he will be sorely missed...
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: RedRobin on October 01, 2010, 11:47:09 am
.
Absolutely stunning wheels and top notch professional standard of photography too  :notworthy:

I think it's their deep dishing (concave centre section) which makes everyone touch cloth.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: WhiteGTI on October 01, 2010, 09:19:54 pm
A-MAZ-ING!!!!!!!!

Pics please soooooooooooon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to see your car actually finished!  :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: joesgti on October 01, 2010, 09:46:04 pm
Still need pics of these wheels on the car!!  :party:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: monte on October 01, 2010, 10:41:19 pm
Well Illektronic, I finally got my 19" monza's too  :pomppomp:  I am in love with my car all over again  :love:

Not the same dish/offset as your w12's but they are gorgeous  :drool:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: stealthwolf on October 01, 2010, 10:42:13 pm
 :congrats: very nice mate.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: stealthwolf on October 01, 2010, 10:42:23 pm
I finally got my 19" monza's too  :pomppomp:  I am in love with my car all over again  :love:

Piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiics
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: bodger00 on October 02, 2010, 08:29:33 am
They look great interesting comment about them being soft. Why are aftermarket wheels softer than oem?
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on October 05, 2010, 02:14:31 pm
Congrats on the wheels monte. Glad you found a set. Did you get them from Germany?

The brakes are on the car (and have been for about 2 weeks)  :happy2:

but...

I'm currently running my old 19" wheels on the fronts due to spacer/lug issues.

I've been trying to track down some lugs that are 22mm in diameter to fit the smaller W12 bolt holes. Normally not that much of an issue, but finding 43mm long lugs that fit the spec has been a problem. I'll probably have to get some made up.

If anyone knows a place that sells them off the shelf (Cone seat M14 P1.5 43mm long and not wider than 22mm) let me know. Especially if they're a tuner/secure lug! I was running the Project Kics DPS lugs and they were great, but only come in 28mm or 35mm lengths.

So I've only got the W12s on the rear. It's the concave centres which have made the wheel require such a large spacer.

They still look really nice though. Big thanks again to Dave Brown for pulling it together and Pat for going to all that effort to get them down here to me!

As for performance, the RS4 calipers/RS6 rotors are pretty heavy in comparison to the Brembo GT 355x32 4 pots I had on there. It is a much more progressive kit than the GT and I am noticing the extra weight they're bringing to the front unsprung weight. I've not tracked the car with them on (nor do I really intend to being that they're white! :grin:).

I do miss the immediacy of the GT 4 pot kit. For a performance setup, I do think it's the better balanced kit for car's power & weight. The geometry will also change quite a bit up front when the W12s go on. Especially considering that I've shifted a 42 offset wheel out an extra 15mm on top of whatever the rotor difference is (my guess is about an additional 3mm offset between the RS6/Brembo GT rotors alone). I did know they were a progressive kit, and expected the pedal feel to be much more OEM, but they just looked that good! If I'd upgraded from the factory setup, I'd be jumping hoops I'm sure.

My old 19" 45 offset huff reps didn't require spacers with the GT kit, and the RS4s required a 7mm spacer. There is a fair amount of play for flex in that spec though. Better safe than sorry and it's only a temporary measure till I get the right lug bolts.

The wider track should create more oversteer, but my car had already dialed out 'most' of what was there (and had a tendency to be a bit hair-trigger anyway, so it'll probably get even more tail happy. I've not properly given it the beans though as the wider fenders aren't on (still boxed in the garage), and I'm not keen on self flaring my OEM fenders.  :smiley:

All that said, I could seek out better pads which will improve the initial bite and I'll need to give myself time to adapt to them once the W12s and wider fenders are on give them the clearance they'll need under load. Should prove to be educational.

On a side note (well it is a photography thread really), I was sent one of these to shoot for the TID Styling site and was able to keep it for a small price.

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Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Saint Steve on October 05, 2010, 06:55:23 pm
omg, i so want that steering wheel!!!!.

How many hundreds does that cost??
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: andrewparker on October 05, 2010, 07:31:12 pm
omg, i so want that steering wheel!!!!.

How many hundreds does that cost??

Bloody lovely, but looks like they're 1000 USD.

http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=753 (http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=753)
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Saint Steve on October 05, 2010, 07:44:57 pm
Whats that about in english pounds.... £600???
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: john_o on October 05, 2010, 09:53:20 pm
feck me thats beyond lush :pomppomp:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on October 06, 2010, 12:38:25 am
I just paid for the oem wheel. The rest was done @ cost for the photos.

The shifter paddles are by S2T Performance and the little badge thing is by OSIR.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on October 06, 2010, 07:59:39 am
John

If you are really strugling getting some custom bolts made, let me know.

I've been Having custom bolts made for a couple of years, mainly freaky ones such a the Cayenne Caliper shouldr bolts which reduce from M16-M14, not really the same problem as you have but we've been workinwith different materials andended up using EN16.

Its a higher tensile bolt than OEM which will give you an unmachined strength of 70 tonnes whih comes back to 55 when you machine the treads but compare that to standard bolts wich come in at 12.9 and you should be ok.

If you could get me a sample that you wanted just longer I can help. You have my email
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: RedRobin on October 06, 2010, 08:48:47 am
^^^^
Dave, it's gotta be said:

You're a Star!  :notworthy:

"Legend" is also another word which comes to mind.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: daz5182 on October 06, 2010, 08:55:56 am
The wheels are amazing, i want some!! And the steering wheel is something else! Amazing choices pal.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: JPC on October 06, 2010, 10:56:02 am
I think I polished and waxed those brakes!! If that's right, they have an £8000 wax on there!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on October 06, 2010, 12:33:53 pm
John

If you are really strugling getting some custom bolts made, let me know.

I've been Having custom bolts made for a couple of years, mainly freaky ones such a the Cayenne Caliper shouldr bolts which reduce from M16-M14, not really the same problem as you have but we've been workinwith different materials andended up using EN16.

Its a higher tensile bolt than OEM which will give you an unmachined strength of 70 tonnes whih comes back to 55 when you machine the treads but compare that to standard bolts wich come in at 12.9 and you should be ok.

If you could get me a sample that you wanted just longer I can help. You have my email

Thanks Dave. I've since been put in touch with a company that are all over it. They're down in South Australia which is a bit further afield than I'd hoped for, but I've sent them the samples and I'll hear back from them by the end of the week. After a good convo, they reckon they can pull it together. The bolt itself is simple, but they're just checking the locking caps that thread into the hex part of the head. Basically the same setup as the Kics Project Dual Phase System lugs. Either way, a solution has been found.

I've gotta say Dave, you're knowledge is just phenomenal! As RR says, legend status. You've been so helpful along the way too.  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

8000 quid wax! LOL. I bet my technique would make it look as good as a 100 quid wax job.  :grin:

I tell you what though, they're staying much cleaner than I'd ever expected. I expected them dust up pretty badly after each drive, but they keep looking clean. Will have to see how they look after a spirited drive. Daily driving is fine though, even though we've had pissy weather of late.
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on October 20, 2010, 12:10:17 pm
The W12's needed a 5mm spacer and it's a right pain trying to find conical 14 x 1.5 32mm security lug bolts. I'm now contemplating machining 3mm off some 35mm security lugs I have which match my 28mm rears. Not heard of it being done before myself, but I'd prefer not find my 2 front wheels replaced with bricks. Anybody know if that's safe?
Shouldn't be an issue taking 3mm off the length (wheel bolts arn't usually hardened or tempered).  But have you actually test mounted them, and checked to see if the bolt protrusion will actually cause any problems?
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: andyt13 on October 25, 2010, 09:53:06 pm
Not a Monza fan but in 19'' with the black inserts  :drool:.

+1
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: monte on October 25, 2010, 10:10:41 pm
Congrats on the wheels monte. Glad you found a set. Did you get them from Germany?

Thanks John, I actually got em from a forum member's dad  :wink: They are mint, and they are the Italian made ones  :happy2:

You can see them here,

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,20605.0.html
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: Werner on November 02, 2010, 10:09:32 pm
Both your photographs and your perfect detailed upgrades are stunning :drool:
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: PDT on December 03, 2010, 05:11:03 pm
What was used as the background in these pics?
Title: Re: New wheels, time for a shoot
Post by: illektronik on December 09, 2010, 01:14:27 pm
It's just a rubber lining. I use it to line my tool draws. I just got it from the hardware store.