MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: pudding on July 30, 2022, 11:00:31 am
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Nothing serious I hope!
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Crikey mate. Motor blown or less serious?
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Off for a Terra Clean?
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What happened mate.
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Not good Kev! Hope nothing too serious mate.
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Sold?
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Clutch pedal dropped to the floor, so couldn't get gears. It had to choose a very busy intersection at peak rush hour to do it didn't it :grin: Police had to shut the carriageway and tow me off. Ultra embarrassing :doh:
Guessing it's the clutch master cylinder so have ordered one.
Effing thing. I'm 100% definitely done with bloody manual gearboxes after this experience :grin:
It makes me laugh when folk choose a manual over DSG because they are afraid it will do exactly what my manual did to me :grin:
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Sold?
It's going to be dumped at WBAC's door after it's fixed.
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Clutch pedal dropped to the floor, so couldn't get gears. It had to choose a very busy intersection at peak rush hour to do it didn't it :grin: Police had to shut the carriageway and tow me off. Ultra embarrassing :doh:
Guessing it's the clutch master cylinder so have ordered one.
Effing thing. I'm 100% definitely done with bloody manual gearboxes after this experience :grin:
It makes me laugh when folk choose a manual over DSG because they are afraid it will do exactly what my manual did to me :grin:
Dohh!!
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£20 says you keep it :happy2:
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£20 says you keep it :happy2:
Haha, I know I've been flip flopping about it lately..... but its defo 100% going :smiley:
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£20 says you keep it :happy2:
Haha, I know I've been flip flopping about it lately..... but its defo 100% going :smiley:
Question is.. what's the replacement?
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£20 says you keep it :happy2:
Haha, I know I've been flip flopping about it lately..... but its defo 100% going :smiley:
Surely be worth selling privately for a few more £? Or you just dont want the hassle?
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I thought about a private sale but with the mileage and issues (minor to be fair to it) it’s got, it’s not worth a lot. It would make a good renovation project to sort a few minor things but I don’t have the time or inclination anymore.
As for replacement, petrol is out due to my commute. Looking at some performance diesel options. MK7 GTD, 125d, 335d that kind of thing. Boring I know but I’m bores of temperamental petrol engines :grin:
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Would you sell the ED30 alloys separately? Might be interested… not sure WBAC would notice of you put stock GTI alloys on it.
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Please let me know if you do end up going to WBAC as i would be interested if you were open to selling. They always try and knock some off for anything as little as stone chips so maybe we could come to an agreement that beats their price.
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Sorry to hear that @Pudding (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10733) - at least you got plod to do something useful.
Didn't you do something with the clutch a while ago? or was that part of the box swap.
Be aware the Mk7 GTTD is a thirsty beast, work mate used to have one as CC, even with mileage paid for he was still glad to see the end to the fuel bill for non work stuff - but he loved the handling & torque.
He moved onto a 3 series (something with E drive) and bemoans the Munich cars its handling compared to the Wolfsburg effort.
Despite being very Scottish - even plays the bag pipes - he didn't like the tartan, so I count him as a partial convert!
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Yeah it had a new Helix clutch and MK6 gearbox summer 2020 I think, so it had better not be the slave cylinder already!
Yeah well, that's VW diesel gate for you :grin: All of the German car brands are flat out liars when it comes to mpg claims, so them being thirsty in the real world is a given.
The Honest John website has real world mpg tables from real world people, and the BMW diesels seem OK. You need the M sport suspension to bring a 3 series alive, but the F30 shape in general drives really well, even the hum drum 320d. The main reason I'm after a 1 or 3 series is because of the ZF 8 speed auto. It's bloody brilliant for commuting :smiley:
Yeah I might advertise the ED30 on here but tbh, if the garage takes it in as part ex, that's my preferred option.
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Yeah it had a new Helix clutch and MK6 gearbox summer 2020 I think, so it had better not be the slave cylinder already!
Yeah well, that's VW diesel gate for you :grin: All of the German car brands are flat out liars when it comes to mpg claims, so them being thirsty in the real world is a given.
The Honest John website has real world mpg tables from real world people, and the BMW diesels seem OK. You need the M sport suspension to bring a 3 series alive, but the F30 shape in general drives really well, even the hum drum 320d. The main reason I'm after a 1 or 3 series is because of the ZF 8 speed auto. It's bloody brilliant for commuting :smiley:
Yeah I might advertise the ED30 on here but tbh, if the garage takes it in as part ex, that's my preferred option.
Yeah you'd get good value on here selling it I think, it's been super well documented and everyone knows how much attention to detail you've given it mechanically. I'd buy if I wanted an ED30 right now. I'm too much in on my own now that selling it would be accepting how much money I've lost on it so can't bare it :grin: selling cars privately can be a faff, I hate it personally but can mean considerably more money in your pocket. I've found part ex-ing usually better than WBAC offers in the past also.
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The long term mpg for my 16 plate GTD is 50, that is a mix town and motorway. My 30 mile commute is normally between 50 - 53 mpg. I nearly always drive it in sport mode, but on a motorway run it will do 58 mpg, when driven in normal mode. I don't bother with eco mode as I hate the lack of acceleration.
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Yeah it had a new Helix clutch and MK6 gearbox summer 2020 I think, so it had better not be the slave cylinder already!
Yeah well, that's VW diesel gate for you :grin: All of the German car brands are flat out liars when it comes to mpg claims, so them being thirsty in the real world is a given.
The Honest John website has real world mpg tables from real world people, and the BMW diesels seem OK. You need the M sport suspension to bring a 3 series alive, but the F30 shape in general drives really well, even the hum drum 320d. The main reason I'm after a 1 or 3 series is because of the ZF 8 speed auto. It's bloody brilliant for commuting :smiley:
Yeah I might advertise the ED30 on here but tbh, if the garage takes it in as part ex, that's my preferred option.
Yeah you'd get good value on here selling it I think, it's been super well documented and everyone knows how much attention to detail you've given it mechanically. I'd buy if I wanted an ED30 right now. I'm too much in on my own now that selling it would be accepting how much money I've lost on it so can't bare it :grin: selling cars privately can be a faff, I hate it personally but can mean considerably more money in your pocket. I've found part ex-ing usually better than WBAC offers in the past also.
Cheers mate, there's certainly no hiding this car's history :grin:
Buying and selling cars is just a major faff in general :grin: As a buyer, the sellers often exaggerate their car's condition, which = wasted journeys. And as a seller, 9 times in 10 you get jerked about by viewers, which = irritation and time wasted.
I find a trade-in is just a good bargaining chip and spares you the aggro of a private sale :happy2:
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The long term mpg for my 16 plate GTD is 50, that is a mix town and motorway. My 30 mile commute is normally between 50 - 53 mpg. I nearly always drive it in sport mode, but on a motorway run it will do 58 mpg, when driven in normal mode. I don't bother with eco mode as I hate the lack of acceleration.
Thanks for that. Certainly much higher figures than I've seen mentioned elsewhere, like MK7 forums/pistonheads etc. Most folk mention low 40s if driven hard, and mid-high 30s if stuck in traffic. I thought petrols were bad on fuel in traffic, but diesels seem even worse for some reason!
MK7 GTDs are massively overpriced at the moment, so I'm on the fence with those. Some are asking £18K+ for a 5-6 year old one! They were only £27K new! £18K gets you a pretty nice 330 or 335d :smiley:
Do you know when the GTD switch to 7 speed? All are wet clutch gearboxes?
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I don't know about the autos as mine is a 6 speed manual. Prices are high for everything at the moment, I paid £14K with 58K miles about 3 months ago from a dealer very clean with service history. Thrashing it around everywhere the mpg is low 40's, the only time I ever see it into the 30's is driving 2 miles to the shops when it is cold. Mine has the CUNA engine, maybe they have better fuel economy. GTD's pre mid 2015 don't have car play or android auto or keyless entry and button start.
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A work colleague had a 67 plate GTD with 7sp DSG and he found it superb on diesel, said he never saw below 40mpg over a full tank and that involved a fair bit of city driving.
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I don't know about the autos as mine is a 6 speed manual. Prices are high for everything at the moment, I paid £14K with 58K miles about 3 months ago from a dealer very clean with service history. Thrashing it around everywhere the mpg is low 40's, the only time I ever see it into the 30's is driving 2 miles to the shops when it is cold. Mine has the CUNA engine, maybe they have better fuel economy. GTD's pre mid 2015 don't have car play or android auto or keyless entry and button start.
£14k for a 16 plate is pretty reasonable. Maybe it's just the DSG ones that are pricey. Thanks again for the info :happy2: I think they map up to 220ish which might maintain my interest in it for more than a year :grin:
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A work colleague had a 67 plate GTD with 7sp DSG and he found it superb on diesel, said he never saw below 40mpg over a full tank and that involved a fair bit of city driving.
Good to know also, thanks :happy2:
My head is saying GTD, my inner hooligan is saying 335d :grin:
I'm one of those annoying people who look at a menu for 30 minutes and always order the same thing anyway, so I can't deal with choice :grin:
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I might be shot down for suggesting this but I’ve always liked the look of the insignia VXR (particularly the touring version). Turbo V6 with 375bhp and 4wd before you’ve even started throwing the mods parts bin at it! Will likely be my next motor…
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I might be shot down for suggesting this but I’ve always liked the look of the insignia VXR (particularly the touring version). Turbo V6 with 375bhp and 4wd before you’ve even started throwing the mods parts bin at it! Will likely be my next motor…
I see where you're coming from. They're 375 after mapping, according to Google, so quite thrusty! Too thirsty as well being petrol!
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125d shadow edition worth a shout? Remap ok by the looks of it.
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How about a DSG Ed30? :-)
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I might be shot down for suggesting this but I’ve always liked the look of the insignia VXR (particularly the touring version). Turbo V6 with 375bhp and 4wd before you’ve even started throwing the mods parts bin at it! Will likely be my next motor…
I see where you're coming from. They're 375 after mapping, according to Google, so quite thrusty! Too thirsty as well being petrol!
You’d definitely be on first name terms with the local petrol station if you owned one. Quite a few ex-police models available with big brakes etc. cheap bUt they will have been thrashed!!
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335d all the way. It’s a completely different beast to the GTD. I’ve got a few friends with them and they actually sound lovely. One of the lads at work commutes from Durham to Leeds occasionally and gets 55mpg. It usually hovers around 46mpg as he drives it like a bit of a loon.
The torque on them is incredible.
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Or a Maserati?!?!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207207973668
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Or a Maserati?!?!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207207973668
:drool: Go on Pudding, you know it makes sense!
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Didn’t know they did diesels at Maserati. The torque figures look impressive :driver:
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OMG that Mazzer is gorgeous :love: Epic shout Josh :happy2: Question is, can one stomach Italian flakiness and quirkiness :grin: Keep the ideas coming peeps, there's a lot of cars I hadn't considered. It's always the usual German sausage standard issue stuff when I think of performance cars.
This is the reason I want diesel. Filled up the old 2.0 TDI MK6 yesterday, did 90 odd miles and it still shows over 600 miles left, bonkers :surprised: If I do a few full throttle squirts in the ED30, the fuel needle drops down a couple of notches :grin:
The craziest thing about the TDI is it will pull itself along in 5th gear at 1200rpm, foot off the clutch. Mental. The ED30 literally does eff all below 2500rpm :grin:
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How about a DSG Ed30? :-)
I would love to start over with a mint 30K DSG ED30....but too thirsty for a 400 mile a week commute, sadly. I had designs on a mint MK6 R, always loved the look of those things but new job, miles away, can't do it :ashamed:
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335d all the way. It’s a completely different beast to the GTD. I’ve got a few friends with them and they actually sound lovely. One of the lads at work commutes from Durham to Leeds occasionally and gets 55mpg. It usually hovers around 46mpg as he drives it like a bit of a loon.
The torque on them is incredible.
That pretty much is what I've got my heart set on but I'm open to other options. I've seen a couple of YouTube videos where a M140i couldn't get past a 335d until 100ish mph, but the 335d looks so plain and dull....what a sleeper!
I know I've bashed on the Eddy a lot lately, but I've had it 8 years and bonded with it in a love hate kind of way, so I will actually be sad to see it go. I don't have the space or time to restore it :ashamed:
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Sorry to hear you have had some drama with the Edition 30.
At 400 miles a week would you consider EV? I’ve never looked at them but is there a cost payoff?
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Sorry to hear you have had some drama with the Edition 30.
At 400 miles a week would you consider EV? I’ve never looked at them but is there a cost payoff?
The only EVs I'm interested in are fast ones, like Tesla and the Taycan......but who can afford one of those? :grin:
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So it wasn't the master cylinder after all :doh:
It was this thing which fell apart!! Clutch delay valve I think it's called. I should have looked in the engine bay before ordering the MC :grin:
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Luckily I had a braided line from Darkside Developments in my parts box, so it was a good opportunity to finally put it on.... not that anywhere would have had an new OEM clutch line available today :grin:
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Did the pipe burst on the original or the valve thing you mentioned?
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The rigid line popped out of the plastic donut thing and wouldn't stay back in. It sprayed brake fluid all over the place! I've heard of those plastic things breaking before, so the thread title is still valid :grin:
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You have me worried now :thinking:
Where does the doughnut go......it looks like a junction of some kind. I can not say I have noticed that part before (not looked to be honest)
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Just spotted it, in one of my clutch change photos.
Potential upgrade coming then.
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Can't see the pic at work but it's round the back under the ABS pump :happy2:
I don't know how much another donut thingy is from VW, or if it's even available separately to the rigid lines, but this is what I used - https://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/02m-02q-braided-clutch-line-kit.html
If the car is a keeper, it seems wise deleting as much crappy plastic as possible!
Upon further investigation, it seems the little pipe retaining clip had rusted away, causing the line to blow out! Said clips are also on the clutch bleeding block, so you might want to check all the clips while you're there :happy2:
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Thanks. I may invest in that soon.
I assume it replaces the entire length from the master to box?
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Yep :happy2:
It's worthwhile doing anyway as it makes the shifting much more consistent, especially when hot where the 14 year old rubber section of the OEM line starts expanding.
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Just so you know pudding, I came from an f30 330d msport to my current pirelli edition. I only owned the beemer for 6 months before doing a deal with some local guy, it was so bloody boring, even with a stage 1 map. The chassis is good but the steering is nothing short of awful. No feel what so ever.
But, it was a lovely car to look at and be in and the ZF box is superb. Just some food for thought mate.
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Just so you know pudding, I came from an f30 330d msport to my current pirelli edition. I only owned the beemer for 6 months before doing a deal with some local guy, it was so bloody boring, even with a stage 1 map. The chassis is good but the steering is nothing short of awful. No feel what so ever.
But, it was a lovely car to look at and be in and the ZF box is superb. Just some food for thought mate.
I was considering one of these but they are too much money right now, but definitely on the table for the economy as we drive a lot for work and city driving is pretty terrible for MPG as it suffers!!! I'm still not 100% a fan of the look of them, I normally like sleeper looking cars but it's kind of in between. I think I need a test drive!!
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Many thanks @Freem82 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=102681) for that. Real world experience is invaluable :happy2: Would a 335d be a bit less boring? TBH, even my ED30 is boring on a commute because there aren't many opportunities to blast it. If I baby it, I can get 400 miles a tank, but a couple of hard squirts of boost (not even close to the limiter!) and the range drops 30-40 miles immediately :grin: Yeah I have read that about the F30's steering, and presumably the F20's as well. Every BMW I've driven has had sh1t steering, so I'm not too shocked by that :grin:
I don't even particularly like BMWs tbh. IMO, they are massively over-rated and massively over-priced but unfortunately, when choosing a commuting car, it's BMW who have the best diesel engines at the moment, and that ZF8 box, which are the main drivers for choosing one.
@SANDEGTI (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=103414) Tell me about it. Every time I look on AutoTrader, the shortlist prices have shot up £500-£1000. 2-3 year old 7.5 GTDs are only a few K off their new price :stupid: Who would have thought pandemics, war and other Global weirdness would kill off car depreciation!
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I actually think it would be even more boring due to the fact they're all 4 wheel drive, also the 4x4 models are very temperamental if all four tyres aren't the same tread depth, it confuses the four wheel drive system apparently.
I dunno, they just aren't for me. My old e46 325i was a great car in comparison, electric steering should never have been invented.
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It's OK when implemented properly, but the Germans just don't understand steering :grin: The hydraulic steering box in E34s/E39s....dear god you could drive over a bed of nails and be none the wiser. Surely the F30 can't be worse than that?! :grin:
I reckon I'll just end up with a 7.5 GTD DSG at this rate. The safer, boring choice I guess, but actually.....stick a B12 Pro kit and a map on it, it could be quite fun.
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400 miles done with the braided clutch line and it's one of the best mods I've done. I wish I'd done it sooner!
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400 miles done with the braided clutch line and it's one of the best mods I've done. I wish I'd done it sooner!
Never gone near the clutch hydraulics on a Golf, can it be bled the normal way or do you need to back bleed it from the slave?
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Clutch pedal dropped to the floor, so couldn't get gears. It had to choose a very busy intersection at peak rush hour to do it didn't it :grin: Police had to shut the carriageway and tow me off. Ultra embarrassing :doh:
Guessing it's the clutch master cylinder so have ordered one.
Effing thing. I'm 100% definitely done with bloody manual gearboxes after this experience :grin:
It makes me laugh when folk choose a manual over DSG because they are afraid it will do exactly what my manual did to me :grin:
At what mileage did this happen? were there any telltale signs before hand or did it just go all of a sudden. Would like to avoid this myself
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400 miles done with the braided clutch line and it's one of the best mods I've done. I wish I'd done it sooner!
Can you describe the feeling as still floating with the idea of either the full hose, or a lot of places sell the half hose (plastic snail to gearbox)
The plastic snail thing is supposed to dampen vibrations or something like that from what I have read.......curious to what your feel under foot :smiley:
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Never gone near the clutch hydraulics on a Golf, can it be bled the normal way or do you need to back bleed it from the slave?
A pressure bleeder works very well to do this for the clutch/brake system....never had an issue since investing in one
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Clutch pedal dropped to the floor, so couldn't get gears. It had to choose a very busy intersection at peak rush hour to do it didn't it :grin: Police had to shut the carriageway and tow me off. Ultra embarrassing :doh:
Guessing it's the clutch master cylinder so have ordered one.
Effing thing. I'm 100% definitely done with bloody manual gearboxes after this experience :grin:
It makes me laugh when folk choose a manual over DSG because they are afraid it will do exactly what my manual did to me :grin:
At what mileage did this happen? were there any telltale signs before hand or did it just go all of a sudden. Would like to avoid this myself
171K miles. No warning signs, just sudden failure. A big pop followed by a thunk as the pedal smashed into the floor.
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400 miles done with the braided clutch line and it's one of the best mods I've done. I wish I'd done it sooner!
Can you describe the feeling as still floating with the idea of either the full hose, or a lot of places sell the half hose (plastic snail to gearbox)
The plastic snail thing is supposed to dampen vibrations or something like that from what I have read.......curious to what your feel under foot :smiley:
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It just feels more direct and responsive, and as mentioned before, a lot more consistent throughout a journey, particularly when hot. The bite is easier to judge and the clutch plates close sooner, so more predictable behaviour during shifts.
The plastic donut is a valve to delay the clutch plates and DMF headbutting each other if, for example, your foot slips off the clutch or if you just have poor pedal control. It's basically a nanny state valve and just ruins the pedal for more skilled drivers.
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Another thing I forgot to mention, with the stock clutch line stuff, I was having to push the pedal almost to the floor otherwise the gears would quite often baulk/grate going in.
With the braided line, that's all gone as well. Bear in mind my clutch is a heavy Helix aftermarket, so standard clutches might not see such noticeable improvements.....but it's still worth doing regardless.....and takes a potential failure point out of the equation :happy2:
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Thanks mate.......the full braided line is on my shopping list, or possible the xmas list to the wife :grin:
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I'll add my 2 cents....
I went from the ed30 to a mk7 GTI to a F36 430d Gran coupe (to a G20 M340i to an e92 M3). The 4 series are setup sportier than the 3 series and are also better specced. The *35d's are a lot thirstier than the rwd 30d's for not a lot more performance. I got the dealer fitted M Performance power Kit (New ECU & bigger intercooler). It dyno'd 313bhp and 479 lb ft on a tough dyno. It was on a dyno day where no stock mk5 made more than 202bhp. Traction isnt an issue either once you put decent rubber on the rear. The steering is completely lacking of feel, but feel isnt as important on them as a golf because they are rwd and dont understeer.
Also bear in mind that 3 and 4 series of that generation only get SE suspension with xDrive. BMW never made M sport suspension for xDrive cars, so they all sit higher and wallow more.
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I'll add my 2 cents....
I went from the ed30 to a mk7 GTI to a F36 430d Gran coupe (to a G20 M340i to an e92 M3). The 4 series are setup sportier than the 3 series and are also better specced. The *35d's are a lot thirstier than the rwd 30d's for not a lot more performance. I got the dealer fitted M Performance power Kit (New ECU & bigger intercooler). It dyno'd 313bhp and 479 lb ft on a tough dyno. It was on a dyno day where no stock mk5 made more than 202bhp. Traction isnt an issue either once you put decent rubber on the rear. The steering is completely lacking of feel, but feel isnt as important on them as a golf because they are rwd and dont understeer.
Also bear in mind that 3 and 4 series of that generation only get SE suspension with xDrive. BMW never made M sport suspension for xDrive cars, so they all sit higher and wallow more.
Thanks for that, much appreciated :happy2:
Funnily enough, I had a good drive of my bro in-law's F31 320d (M Sport flavour) last weekend to see if it's actually what I want before going through the aggro of car shopping. It was also the perfect opportunity to drive it on the worst of my local roads that the ED30 crashes all over the shop on, and try it impartially without the new toy blinkers on.
It really impressed me to be honest. Yeah the steering feel has all the life in it of a corpse but the PAS weighting is loads better than the ED30's, which to be honest isn't exactly bursting with feel either. Very decent drivetrain and ride quality, so I'm definitely in. I'll be going for the 30d though as the 35d scares me maintenance wise tbh, and as you say, it's mpg is lower than I'd like. I'll look into the 4 series as well.
I like the idea of a proper BMW approved power kit. Can that be fitted to used cars or was it only available as an option when new? Every marque has it's shady back street remap stories, so that sounds ideal.
I also need to look into a proper VAG-COM equivalent for BMWs. I want to make sure the car I buy has never been remapped, which is an easy check with VAG-COM.
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I'll add my 2 cents....
I went from the ed30 to a mk7 GTI to a F36 430d Gran coupe (to a G20 M340i to an e92 M3). The 4 series are setup sportier than the 3 series and are also better specced. The *35d's are a lot thirstier than the rwd 30d's for not a lot more performance. I got the dealer fitted M Performance power Kit (New ECU & bigger intercooler). It dyno'd 313bhp and 479 lb ft on a tough dyno. It was on a dyno day where no stock mk5 made more than 202bhp. Traction isnt an issue either once you put decent rubber on the rear. The steering is completely lacking of feel, but feel isnt as important on them as a golf because they are rwd and dont understeer.
Also bear in mind that 3 and 4 series of that generation only get SE suspension with xDrive. BMW never made M sport suspension for xDrive cars, so they all sit higher and wallow more.
Thanks for that, much appreciated :happy2:
Funnily enough, I had a good drive of my bro in-law's F31 320d (M Sport flavour) last weekend to see if it's actually what I want before going through the aggro of car shopping. It was also the perfect opportunity to drive it on the worst of my local roads that the ED30 crashes all over the shop on, and try it impartially without the new toy blinkers on.
It really impressed me to be honest. Yeah the steering feel has all the life in it of a corpse but the PAS weighting is loads better than the ED30's, which to be honest isn't exactly bursting with feel either. Very decent drivetrain and ride quality, so I'm definitely in. I'll be going for the 30d though as the 35d scares me maintenance wise tbh, and as you say, it's mpg is lower than I'd like. I'll look into the 4 series as well.
I like the idea of a proper BMW approved power kit. Can that be fitted to used cars or was it only available as an option when new? Every marque has it's shady back street remap stories, so that sounds ideal.
I also need to look into a proper VAG-COM equivalent for BMWs. I want to make sure the car I buy has never been remapped, which is an easy check with VAG-COM.
Sorry, I dont be on here much anymore, did you purchase? The power kit can be fitted to any car, regardless of age. It includes the intercooler from the 35d and a brand new ecu (dont know why).
For basic coding, bimmercode & bimmerlink work well. Yo just buy a wireless dongle and do it through your phone. Esys is more advanced but you only need that if doing retrofits.
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I'll add my 2 cents....
I went from the ed30 to a mk7 GTI to a F36 430d Gran coupe (to a G20 M340i to an e92 M3). The 4 series are setup sportier than the 3 series and are also better specced. The *35d's are a lot thirstier than the rwd 30d's for not a lot more performance. I got the dealer fitted M Performance power Kit (New ECU & bigger intercooler). It dyno'd 313bhp and 479 lb ft on a tough dyno. It was on a dyno day where no stock mk5 made more than 202bhp. Traction isnt an issue either once you put decent rubber on the rear. The steering is completely lacking of feel, but feel isnt as important on them as a golf because they are rwd and dont understeer.
Also bear in mind that 3 and 4 series of that generation only get SE suspension with xDrive. BMW never made M sport suspension for xDrive cars, so they all sit higher and wallow more.
Thanks for that, much appreciated :happy2:
Funnily enough, I had a good drive of my bro in-law's F31 320d (M Sport flavour) last weekend to see if it's actually what I want before going through the aggro of car shopping. It was also the perfect opportunity to drive it on the worst of my local roads that the ED30 crashes all over the shop on, and try it impartially without the new toy blinkers on.
It really impressed me to be honest. Yeah the steering feel has all the life in it of a corpse but the PAS weighting is loads better than the ED30's, which to be honest isn't exactly bursting with feel either. Very decent drivetrain and ride quality, so I'm definitely in. I'll be going for the 30d though as the 35d scares me maintenance wise tbh, and as you say, it's mpg is lower than I'd like. I'll look into the 4 series as well.
I like the idea of a proper BMW approved power kit. Can that be fitted to used cars or was it only available as an option when new? Every marque has it's shady back street remap stories, so that sounds ideal.
I also need to look into a proper VAG-COM equivalent for BMWs. I want to make sure the car I buy has never been remapped, which is an easy check with VAG-COM.
Sorry, I dont be on here much anymore, did you purchase? The power kit can be fitted to any car, regardless of age. It includes the intercooler from the 35d and a brand new ecu (dont know why).
For basic coding, bimmercode & bimmerlink work well. Yo just buy a wireless dongle and do it through your phone. Esys is more advanced but you only need that if doing retrofits.
@kevinm (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1725) No worries. Makes sense you're not on here much if you don't have a GTI anymore :happy2:
Yeah I ended up with a 2016 330d M Sport with 38k miles on it. It came with Harman Kardon, Blue M Sport brakes, 19" rims, LED headlights etc etc.
You're right about the steering :grin: The lack of feel can be fixed easily enough, apparently, but it's not a deal breaker for me. Some of the steering crapness was down to the runflats, which I binned in favour of non-runflat SportContact 7s. What a transformation! I've experienced crap tyres ruin a car before, but not to this extent.
Power wise, I'm happy with the stock 258hp or what ever it is for now, but cheers for the info. In sport mode it's surprisingly thrusty for a diesel, but I leave it in Comfort 99% of the time. Haven't used EcoPro yet and don't intend do, but in comfort it's averaged 48mpg over the last 4 months. Not far off double what I was getting from the ED30 :grin:
Bimmercode and Bimmerlink have paid for themselves already with disabling start/stop and coding/registering a new battery :happy2: