MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on February 28, 2021, 12:26:45 pm
Hey all! New member here, looking for some
Advice. I have an ed30 and I’m looking for a shock/spring kit to stiffen her up a little
Whilst giving abit of a drop! Been looking at the koni str shocks with h&r springs and as I imagine several of you may have previously used or are currently using
This set up? Reviews please or perhaps alternative choices below £600!

Thanks
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ROH ECHT on February 28, 2021, 04:09:37 pm
I just swapped in my fourth set-up. But the Whiteline springs I now have aren't available with dampers in a kit. They are paired with the Bilstein B8s.

My current set is Whiteline WSK-VWN002 and at least the front springs are linear. I've had H&R SuperSport__Eibach Sportline__and H&R SuperSport fronts with H&R Street Performance coilover springs in back. I would recommend selecting a set which has Linear springs...and not progressive.

This VWR set is all linear spring and drops it mildly: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-racingline-parts/vwr-sport-shock-absorber-kit-and-spring-kit-golf-5-6/vwr30g5gt~vwr/

This section has a number of options: https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_V--2.0T/Suspension/Cup_Kits/

Of all those sets, and given your wanting for a mild drop, I would probably select one of these sets: VWR Sport Shock Absorber Kit And Spring Kit__H&R Sport Spring & Bilstein Sport Shocks Combo__Sport Cup Kit (Koni). The problem with many springs sold online is the picture doesn't match what you get. So You would need to contact and ask if they will check if the springs are linear or progressive.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: colesey on February 28, 2021, 05:17:45 pm
I have the VWR / Racingline sports damper / spring kit. It gives a nicely lowered stance and good daily driver comfort with better composure but I think I would go for something stiffer next time.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: Damian @ DPM on March 01, 2021, 01:35:46 pm
The ST by KW kit is always a popular choice with us.

Damian @ DPM Performance
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: pudding on March 02, 2021, 03:38:40 am
Hmmmmm, yeah I would probably stay away from Koni.  Their FSD(Frequency Selective Damping)/Special Active dampers are very, very nice indeed.....for 500 miles, and then you'll be sending them off for warranty replacements. If they don't develop oil leaks, they rust to buggery.  Such a shame as they were the go-to damper for VWs back in the day, with H&R springs and Eibach ARBs.  And then new ownership/management stepped in and f'cked with the quality/standards/integrity to save a buck or two. Same old story.

FSD/Special Active, if you're not familiar with the terminology.....think of it as a 'dump valve' for hard impacts. Only a tiny handful of damper makers employ this technology. It works really, really well to smooth out the rough and tumble of crap roads, without the expense and complexity of electronically adjustable magnetic dampers.

Anyway.....VWR, steer clear, it's cheap cr@p.  I liked the kit initially as it was more comfy than my knackered OEM struts, but after 1000 miles or so, I quickly came to the conclusion it uses cheap, unpredictable progressive rate springs matched to weak sauce dampers that can't cope with either the spring rates, or the vehicle weight. Too much dive under braking, too much lift under acceleration, soggy cornering and woeful transition from comfort to bottoming out.  Probably the worst damper/spring partnership I've ever experienced if truth be told.  But that's no surprise given Racingline are charlatans repackaging other companies products as their own.

As an absolute minimum I'd be looking at the B12 Pro kit for a MK6 (not the horrible 'Sportsline' MK5 kit).  Anything less just isn't doing the sublimely stiff MK5 body shell any justice at all.  Big, fat inverted monotubes give a cornering stability and feel like nothing else....and they came about because the OEM style twin tubes bend like a banana under hard cornering.....hence why all the top kits like Bilstein, AST, Ohlins et al all use monotubes for cornering strength.

Or of course, you could just refresh the OEM stuff for around £500.  It's surprisingly good actually, when not knackered.  That should go hand in hand with a chassis bush refresh.  Nobody likes 15 year old rubbers.








Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 02, 2021, 01:43:07 pm
I do like the look of the b12 kit, demon tweeks have a few to fit the GTi but different prices and all labelled ‘b12 kit’ so unsure what the differences are! Albeit abit pricey fir a road car that will see occasional track use! Debating on the h&r cup kit, awesome has it for £580 atm! Anyone used it before?
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: Sean_ED30 on March 02, 2021, 06:35:47 pm
Stay away from DemonTweeks and give AKS or AwesomeGTI a ring. I got the Bilstein B12 kit from AKS and had to be quite specific about the car in order to get the correct kit. I think there was slight difference in weight between DSG and manual cars. 
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 03, 2021, 02:00:41 pm
Thought I’d update the post, I’ve decided and ordered a b12 kit! The eddy has a front load weight of 1040 so made sure I had the right kit! Thanks all I will post when I’ve received and fitted them!
(https://i.postimg.cc/cC9kT1cP/62-BF0-A98-B8-BF-41-D8-A40-F-7-BAB2289-F343.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHXQzLvQ)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: Lewo on March 03, 2021, 10:39:47 pm
Thought I’d update the post, I’ve decided and ordered a b12 kit! The eddy has a front load weight of 1040 so made sure I had the right kit! Thanks all I will post when I’ve received and fitted them!
(https://i.postimg.cc/cC9kT1cP/62-BF0-A98-B8-BF-41-D8-A40-F-7-BAB2289-F343.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHXQzLvQ)

How much was that kit?
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 05, 2021, 11:40:33 am
£690 delivered, same kit number that awesome have listed for the mk5 but much cheaper on sale at demon tweeks!
(https://i.postimg.cc/MHtsp3j8/DA41934-E-3710-418-D-89-CF-6-C3-EE3-D6-B942.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sGQPnccn)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: maxamplitude10 on March 05, 2021, 11:49:41 am
Hi if you have Vw original springs installed at present could you check the colour coding for me? What colour are the 4 dabs on spring?

Also what was included in the suspension kit, looks nice?

Thanks
Max
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 05, 2021, 12:23:42 pm
I do bud, but I shan’t be changing it over until next weekend! I can do it then for you, I’ll take a picture?
The kit contains front and rear bilstein b8 shocks and eibach sportline springs, no dustcovers unfortunately! The springs came with what look like shortened bumpstops which I assume are for the front shocks, but the b8 front shocks are upside down and have internal bumpstops so I won’t be needing them! Did expect dust covers though!
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: maxamplitude10 on March 05, 2021, 03:13:27 pm
Great thanks mate, good luck with the switch over!!
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 05, 2021, 03:29:59 pm
I do bud, but I shan’t be changing it over until next weekend! I can do it then for you, I’ll take a picture?
The kit contains front and rear bilstein b8 shocks and eibach sportline springs, no dustcovers unfortunately! The springs came with what look like shortened bumpstops which I assume are for the front shocks, but the b8 front shocks are upside down and have internal bumpstops so I won’t be needing them! Did expect dust covers though!

Hi bud
I'm looking to do the same on mine, but want to retain the 30mm H&R lowering springs i have fitted as the stance is perfect. Do you if the B12 kit comes without springs and just the shocks/dampers?

Cheers
Louie
Title: Suspension refresh
Post by: fakie1977 on March 05, 2021, 05:03:41 pm
The B12 kit is the Bilstein B8’s dampers with Eibach springs. I have this kit on my Audi S6.

On my GTI I too have H&R springs and just bought the B8’s separately. I purchased the MK6 B8’s. The part numbers that I bought are:

B8 (Sport) = Front: 35-158745 (55mm) & Rear: 24-158756


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Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 05, 2021, 06:51:20 pm
Thanks my man.
Where did you purchase these from?

Best
Louie
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: fakie1977 on March 05, 2021, 07:08:28 pm
I got them off eBay searching those part numbers. Cheapest at the time was from Germany even with postage but not sure if that is as easy or viable now.

I ordered my B12 Audi S6 kit from Germany (not knowing that was were the warehouse was placed) and then thinking I might have been hit by VAT and/or duties. I ended up not having to pay anything though as it was shipped as 2 parcels and they put £100 value for each parcel.


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Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: pudding on March 05, 2021, 08:35:06 pm
I do like the look of the b12 kit, demon tweeks have a few to fit the GTi but different prices and all labelled ‘b12 kit’ so unsure what the differences are! Albeit abit pricey fir a road car that will see occasional track use! Debating on the h&r cup kit, awesome has it for £580 atm! Anyone used it before?

Yes it's confusing.

B12 just means B8 dampers + some springs.

If you want ride comfort and mild lowering, you need a B12 'Pro' kit for a MK6 Golf.

If you just get a B12 kit for a MK5 GTI, you will get the B12 'Sportline' kit which is waaaaay harsher and lower.

The easiest way to spot the difference is:

Sportline = red springs @ -30 to -40mm lower than a GTI
Pro = black springs at -25 to 30mm lower than a non-GTI

Since non-GTIs are 10-15mm taller than a GTI, the final lowering of a GTI with Pro kit would be approx -10 to 15mm


Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: pudding on March 05, 2021, 08:40:48 pm
The ST by KW kit is always a popular choice with us.

Damian @ DPM Performance

I have to say, your price for that kit is the best.  So a couple of us have put orders through you in the last few days  :happy2:

Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 06, 2021, 08:44:49 am
I do like the look of the b12 kit, demon tweeks have a few to fit the GTi but different prices and all labelled ‘b12 kit’ so unsure what the differences are! Albeit abit pricey fir a road car that will see occasional track use! Debating on the h&r cup kit, awesome has it for £580 atm! Anyone used it before?

Yes it's confusing.

B12 just means B8 dampers + some springs.

If you want ride comfort and mild lowering, you need a B12 'Pro' kit for a MK6 Golf.

If you just get a B12 kit for a MK5 GTI, you will get the B12 'Sportline' kit which is waaaaay harsher and lower.

The easiest way to spot the difference is:

Sportline = red springs @ -30 to -40mm lower than a GTI
Pro = black springs at -25 to 30mm lower than a non-GTI

Since non-GTIs are 10-15mm taller than a GTI, the final lowering of a GTI with Pro kit would be approx -10 to 15mm

Cheers Kev,
So with mine i'm keeping the 30mm H&R Lowering Springs. So do i need this kit??

https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/bilstein-b8-sprint-shock-absorber-bls35-158745/
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/bilstein-b8-sprint-shock-absorber-bls24-158756/

Cheere
Louie
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 06, 2021, 01:37:45 pm
Depends on your front axel weight. If it’s a dsg gti, or a manual/dsg eddy or Pirelli you’d need the front shocks up to 1130kg axel load weight from what I can make out from various suppliers. I have an ed30 so I ordered the same kit awesome have listed for a GTI at up to 1130 front axel weight. Not sure if it makes much difference but thought I’d follow the guidance!
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 07, 2021, 07:27:57 am
Depends on your front axel weight. If it’s a dsg gti, or a manual/dsg eddy or Pirelli you’d need the front shocks up to 1130kg axel load weight from what I can make out from various suppliers. I have an ed30 so I ordered the same kit awesome have listed for a GTI at up to 1130 front axel weight. Not sure if it makes much difference but thought I’d follow the guidance!

Thanks Bud
I'm viewing an Eddy30 today that has been fitted with "Bilstein B12 Sportline with Eibach springs" Is this the harsher and lowerer kit that Pudding was referring too?

Cheers
Louie
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 07, 2021, 12:31:46 pm
Apparently so, it’s a matter of opinion to be fair. What’s too stiff for one may be too soft for another.. see how you get on!
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 07, 2021, 02:46:07 pm
Thanks bud
Eddy was a no no. Suspension was far to harsh and considering it was new it felt worst than my 141k original standard shocks with H&R 30mm lowering springs. Nasty ride, banged and crashed and as for potholes, fook me I nearly had a ruptured spleen!!! Also wasn’t presented well. Dirty, had rust, and albeit the owner had mentioned this in the ad, it wasn’t for me!


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Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 07, 2021, 06:48:41 pm
Fills me with confidence then 😂 I’ll find out this weekend
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: LC5F on March 08, 2021, 11:07:21 am
The ST by KW kit is always a popular choice with us.

Damian @ DPM Performance

So ST is the rebranding for the Weitec brand - AP outer bodies and KW internals?
I was wondering who they were after Jamie Orr youtube videos is now sponsored by them.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 08, 2021, 02:43:38 pm
Fills me with confidence then 😂 I’ll find out this weekend

It may be fine for you bud, but driving my existing car with 141k old standard shocks, and 30mm H&R Lowering springs, felt better :thinking:
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 09, 2021, 11:10:43 am
I recently replaced my 180k old stock springs/dampers with Bilstein B4 and Eibach springs, plus did the usual ball joints, top mounts etc at the same time and also fitted front and rear Whiteline ARBs and tie rods. I now enjoy driving my car again, although I'd be interested in a set of springs that didn't drop the car, even the 20mm that these Eibach's do.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 10, 2021, 07:36:19 am
wow 180k on original shocks :congrats:
Are B4s the standard shocks that are fitted to the GTi?


Cheers
Louie
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 10, 2021, 08:54:07 am
wow 180k on original shocks :congrats:
Are B4s the standard shocks that are fitted to the GTi?

Yeah when I was looking into it they seem to match the standard shocks. A spring has definitely been replaced as one had been broken, but yeah it's a lot of miles for the originals. Just prefer the stock look, plus the Eibachs have lowered the back more than the front so I need to realign the headlights.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 10, 2021, 10:11:29 am
Good stuff
This is the likely route i'll take. Mines on 140k, and i've 30mm H&R Lowering springs. Love the ride and stance, hence for what i use the car for its perfect. I'll also look to replace as many bushes and rubbers etc with stock :-)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 10, 2021, 10:28:28 am
Yeah, I asked earlier last year and was recommended:

Springs
Shocks
Top mounts
Ball joints
Front console bushes
Drop links
Front and rear ARB bushes

But also did the ARBs themselves as Whiteline had a pretty good deal on theirs which included the adjustable drop links as well. Very happy with the way the car handles now. It's the right balance of comfort and stiffness...and speed bumps are still fine!
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 10, 2021, 11:29:32 am
Ah that's really handy to know. Did you replace with OEM items (other than the Whiteline kit)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 10, 2021, 11:36:14 am
Only the ball joints were stock. The top mounts are the Audi TTRS ones. Console bushes were uprated from Darkside Developments and the rest as previously mentioned :)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 10, 2021, 12:41:49 pm
Only the ball joints were stock. The top mounts are the Audi TTRS ones. Console bushes were uprated from Darkside Developments and the rest as previously mentioned :)

Don't suppose you've got the part codes to hand bud?
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 10, 2021, 01:15:17 pm
Not for the factory parts.

Top mounts - https://www.akstuning.co.uk/shop/home/525-genuine-ttrs-top-mounts.html
Console bushes - https://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/tt-uprated-wishbone-console-bushes-for-golf-mk5-platform.html
ARB/Drop link kit - https://ukwhitelineperformance.com/collections/anti-roll-bar-vehicle-kit/products/bwk002-anti-roll-bar-vehicle-kit
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 10, 2021, 02:09:37 pm
Perfecto!
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 13, 2021, 05:22:58 pm
Hi if you have Vw original springs installed at present could you check the colour coding for me? What colour are the 4 dabs on spring?

Also what was included in the suspension kit, looks nice?

Thanks
Max



Here you go bud
(https://i.postimg.cc/CLcfdTYH/4996-B201-38-CB-4-FCA-97-B2-B4-B292-B64482.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8jrCnY7j)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: pudding on March 13, 2021, 06:15:43 pm
Thanks bud
Eddy was a no no. Suspension was far to harsh and considering it was new it felt worst than my 141k original standard shocks with H&R 30mm lowering springs. Nasty ride, banged and crashed and as for potholes, fook me I nearly had a ruptured spleen!!! Also wasn’t presented well. Dirty, had rust, and albeit the owner had mentioned this in the ad, it wasn’t for me!

Yup! The B12 Sportline is bloody awful. It doesn't even sit level on the car.  Nose down, arse up. Anyone new to Bilstein would steer well clear of the brand after that experience.

That's why I was trying to get across the importance of the black Pro springs with MK6 spec B8 dampers if you value ride comfort  :happy2:






Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: pudding on March 13, 2021, 06:40:41 pm
Not for the factory parts.

Top mounts - https://www.akstuning.co.uk/shop/home/525-genuine-ttrs-top-mounts.html
Console bushes - https://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/tt-uprated-wishbone-console-bushes-for-golf-mk5-platform.html
ARB/Drop link kit - https://ukwhitelineperformance.com/collections/anti-roll-bar-vehicle-kit/products/bwk002-anti-roll-bar-vehicle-kit

Those console bushes are a Febi part, just for clarity.  Audi don't sell the bushes separately.  You have to buy the whole console, which doesn't work on a MK5.

Genuine Audi A2 bushes fit in MK5 consoles though, for another void less rubber option  :happy2:

Good move on the TT top mounts.  The stiffer rubber is needed to reduce damper rod movement over bumps, which also stops the annoying squelching noises you get from MK5 mounts with stiffer dampers.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: ljc19630 on March 13, 2021, 08:45:53 pm
Thanks Kev,
Well so far i've ordered

1, Full set of Bilstein B4 shocks
2, TTRS Top mounts
3, Whiteline ARB kit F/R bars and drop links
4, Ball Joints
5, Powerflex Anti Lift kit

There is also, i believe engine mount (dog bone??) bushes that i want to replace but not sure what these are called or the correct part as want to get Powerfles replacements?

Cheers
Louie
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 14, 2021, 07:17:02 am
Thanks bud
Eddy was a no no. Suspension was far to harsh and considering it was new it felt worst than my 141k original standard shocks with H&R 30mm lowering springs. Nasty ride, banged and crashed and as for potholes, fook me I nearly had a ruptured spleen!!! Also wasn’t presented well. Dirty, had rust, and albeit the owner had mentioned this in the ad, it wasn’t for me!

Yup! The B12 Sportline is bloody awful. It doesn't even sit level on the car.  Nose down, arse up. Anyone new to Bilstein would steer well clear of the brand after that experience.

That's why I was trying to get across the importance of the black Pro springs with MK6 spec B8 dampers if you value ride comfort  :happy2:


Odd, cause mine doesn’t sit anything like youve described, doesn’t look much different than it was stock, in fact I don’t think it’s dropped more than 10mm! and as for comfort it feels firm but I certainly wouldn’t refer to it as uncomfortable in any way! I was surprised as I expected it to be really hard! I see there’s a few different b12 sportline kits listed for the GTI, my front shocks are the ones listed by awesome but other suppliers seem to list a different part number!

Ahwell, I’m pleasantly surpised!
I was umming and arring saving money and buying a vogtland kit before buying this b12 kit, I’m glad I didn’t as I mot’d a Leon last week that had the vogtland kit and that did feel bloody awful! 
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 14, 2021, 08:20:19 am

Good move on the TT top mounts.  The stiffer rubber is needed to reduce damper rod movement over bumps, which also stops the annoying squelching noises you get from MK5 mounts with stiffer dampers.

Cheers! I thought sod it, it's done 180k miles, I'll see about doing the lot and it has made such a difference so onwards to 360k 😂
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: Sean_ED30 on March 14, 2021, 08:51:57 am
Thanks bud
Eddy was a no no. Suspension was far to harsh and considering it was new it felt worst than my 141k original standard shocks with H&R 30mm lowering springs. Nasty ride, banged and crashed and as for potholes, fook me I nearly had a ruptured spleen!!! Also wasn’t presented well. Dirty, had rust, and albeit the owner had mentioned this in the ad, it wasn’t for me!

Yup! The B12 Sportline is bloody awful. It doesn't even sit level on the car.  Nose down, arse up. Anyone new to Bilstein would steer well clear of the brand after that experience.

That's why I was trying to get across the importance of the black Pro springs with MK6 spec B8 dampers if you value ride comfort  :happy2:


Odd, cause mine doesn’t sit anything like youve described, doesn’t look much different than it was stock, in fact I don’t think it’s dropped more than 10mm! and as for comfort it feels firm but I certainly wouldn’t refer to it as uncomfortable in any way! I was surprised as I expected it to be really hard! I see there’s a few different b12 sportline kits listed for the GTI, my front shocks are the ones listed by awesome but other suppliers seem to list a different part number!

Ahwell, I’m pleasantly surpised!
I was umming and arring saving money and buying a vogtland kit before buying this b12 kit, I’m glad I didn’t as I mot’d a Leon last week that had the vogtland kit and that did feel bloody awful!

They will drop slightly after a few miles. Mine does sit lower at the front compared to the standard dampers and H&R springs I took off. Overall though the B12 kit was a massive improvement on my ED30 and probably the best mod I’ve done so far.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 14, 2021, 08:54:50 am
Also for info, with the B4 and Eibachs there's very little drop on the front but much more on the back, to the point I need my headlight alignment sorting as they're pointing up a bit too much for my liking. May just be the fact I replaced the units and put better bulbs in at the same time and I'm just noticing it though.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 14, 2021, 10:37:22 am
Yeah I’m very happy with the b12 sportline kit. Holds the road very well and doesn’t feel crashy or harsh atall IMO! Just been out for 30 mins this morning after fitting yesturday and I’m very glad I went for the b12! Out of interest pudding, how long ago did you use the b12 sportline kit? Maybe they’ve made some changes as again, it sits very well and doesn’t feel anything like you described?
(https://i.postimg.cc/8PgqvdVT/DC1-FF19-E-255-B-4391-B54-B-75-ABD296-D53-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7DSQxTc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmqN6ZTp/F3-F40-B71-C0-B0-4-D85-B221-F34653-A09812.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjPMK7gW)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: OldGTI on March 22, 2021, 09:46:58 pm
I had my 75k mile Gti done at the weekend.

Sachs OEM front and rear shocks
TTRS Topmounts and new bearings
OE Quality balljoints and droplinks

Feels more planted and less rattled over rough ground now. It was not too bad before to be honest but thought it was time to do it. It was not a bad idea after all as front nearside was weeping.


(https://i.postimg.cc/xCmYN4dH/shock.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JTxqwMP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tgY9pTQB/shock1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1ghkKyzF)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: Lewo on March 22, 2021, 10:30:47 pm
I had my 75k mile Gti done at the weekend.

Sachs OEM front and rear shocks
TTRS Topmounts and new bearings
OE Quality balljoints and droplinks

Feels more planted and less rattled over rough ground now. It was not too bad before to be honest but thought it was time to do it. It was not a bad idea after all as front nearside was weeping.


(https://i.postimg.cc/xCmYN4dH/shock.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JTxqwMP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tgY9pTQB/shock1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1ghkKyzF)

Nice one.
I've got some ST shocks & TTRS top mounts to be fitted next week.
Any chance of links part numbers for the ball joints and droplinks please?
Cheers.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 23, 2021, 02:01:41 pm
Does anyone have part numbers for the stock springs? Not overly happy with the drop on these Eibachs. Maybe I'm just getting old  :grin:
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: OldGTI on March 23, 2021, 02:46:31 pm
I had my 75k mile Gti done at the weekend.

Sachs OEM front and rear shocks
TTRS Topmounts and new bearings
OE Quality balljoints and droplinks

Feels more planted and less rattled over rough ground now. It was not too bad before to be honest but thought it was time to do it. It was not a bad idea after all as front nearside was weeping.


(https://i.postimg.cc/xCmYN4dH/shock.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JTxqwMP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tgY9pTQB/shock1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1ghkKyzF)

Nice one.
I've got some ST shocks & TTRS top mounts to be fitted next week.
Any chance of links part numbers for the ball joints and droplinks please?
Cheers.

This is what my friend Nat told me when I asked him for you.

TTRS TOPMOUNTS: 8J0412331
Lemforder balljoints: 2677302 / 2677202
Lemforder droplinks: 614440225

I use those or the Febi Bilstein ones. Or Meyle HD are good also as heavier duty than OE for droplinks
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: chimp400 on March 27, 2021, 10:23:09 am
Yeah I’m very happy with the b12 sportline kit. Holds the road very well and doesn’t feel crashy or harsh atall IMO! Just been out for 30 mins this morning after fitting yesturday and I’m very glad I went for the b12! Out of interest pudding, how long ago did you use the b12 sportline kit? Maybe they’ve made some changes as again, it sits very well and doesn’t feel anything like you described?
(https://i.postimg.cc/8PgqvdVT/DC1-FF19-E-255-B-4391-B54-B-75-ABD296-D53-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7DSQxTc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmqN6ZTp/F3-F40-B71-C0-B0-4-D85-B221-F34653-A09812.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjPMK7gW)

Sits nicely that too.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 27, 2021, 02:02:29 pm
Yeah I’m well happy with it! Honestly cannot think of any downsides
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: brian_badonde on March 29, 2021, 10:21:24 am
Folks,

FYI if you're like me and don't want to drop as low as the sportline kit, this is the correct pro kit for our cars: https://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/car-parts/volkswagen/golf/bilstein-30mm-b12-pro-lowering-springs-shocks-suspension-kitgolf-mk5-20042009-14tsi-16-16fsi-19tdi-20fsi (https://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/car-parts/volkswagen/golf/bilstein-30mm-b12-pro-lowering-springs-shocks-suspension-kitgolf-mk5-20042009-14tsi-16-16fsi-19tdi-20fsi).

If in doubt I'd highly recommend speaking to Damian at DPM performance, extremely knowledgable and happy to take the time to explore the different options.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: J30SBO on March 29, 2021, 02:22:15 pm
The picture above is of my ed30 with the correctsport line kit. It is barely any lower than it was before? Don’t understand why people keep saying it makes it too low 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: brian_badonde on March 29, 2021, 03:47:54 pm
You're right, it doesn't look any lower - I don't understand that. I've currently got sportline springs (which should be the same as yours) and the drop over stock was very significant. Not happy with it and fancy new dampers so going for the pro kit instead.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: probedb on March 29, 2021, 05:55:48 pm
The Eibachs with B4s make the rear lower than yours, front is the same. Definitely too low for me so when I can I'd like to swap them out for springs that are near stock.
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: pudding on April 03, 2021, 11:24:58 am
Yeah I’m very happy with the b12 sportline kit. Holds the road very well and doesn’t feel crashy or harsh atall IMO! Just been out for 30 mins this morning after fitting yesturday and I’m very glad I went for the b12! Out of interest pudding, how long ago did you use the b12 sportline kit? Maybe they’ve made some changes as again, it sits very well and doesn’t feel anything like you described?
(https://i.postimg.cc/8PgqvdVT/DC1-FF19-E-255-B-4391-B54-B-75-ABD296-D53-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7DSQxTc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmqN6ZTp/F3-F40-B71-C0-B0-4-D85-B221-F34653-A09812.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjPMK7gW)

Yeah that looks spot on  :happy2:

It was years ago I tried the B12 Sportline.  Maybe they have made some changes then because it used to be so bad, people were using MK6 dampers instead as they were known to be softer valved.  Glad you're happy with it.  I do really like how monotubes drive compared to twin tubes, you'll have a lot of fun with that  :happy2:
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: PorkPieBandit on December 17, 2023, 10:00:13 am
I've had two springs flagged in my last MOT so considering a full refresh whilst I'm at it. I think I've found why the B12 sportline has some mixed reviews. Seems there's two part numbers, one with 20-25mm front drop and 30-35mm rear drop. The other has 20-25mm front drop and 20mm rear drop.

Perhaps someone with some more knowledge will correct me? But if not I'm hoping this will help someone out!

(https://i.postimg.cc/d0ZJcTzg/Screenshot-20231217-094736-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJKMFW6T)
Title: Re: Suspension refresh
Post by: terrier on December 17, 2023, 06:52:38 pm
B14s are cheaper   Try Demon Tweeks