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Title: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on February 10, 2021, 10:56:50 pm
Hi guys, well had mine a while now, it was bought to be a daily that was a great all rounder which it is. Due to covid and new job change I no longer need to worry about a daily ( the mrs's fiat 500 can always suffice if things change lol ).

This is just going to blog my very very slow progress of turning the golf into a track car, I'm currently buying a house so hence the very slow and very budget progress lol but doing what I can!

Here she is when first bought:

(https://i.postimg.cc/bNVsfdRp/20181125-134641.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svSVpj8N)

And here is a cool pic I took few years ago at 6am at cheddar gorge lol ( great morning drive if any of you are local by the way ):

(https://i.postimg.cc/2yc8YXh2/20190428-080736.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m19GNjdH)

Had the car at Llandow circuit recently bone stock with nothing but ate type 200 brake fluid. She went well, was expecting it to be a bit of a mess but no was quite surprising. Fair amount of understeer and quite slow to change direction but not bad at all! I had a cool down lap every 3-5 or so laps just to look after the old stock pads and discs.

Winter means jobs to do!

This explains the small hint of surface rust on the sills!

(https://i.postimg.cc/L68GZsFq/20200928-152015.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NLZd3BMY)

Got some wishbones from an audi tt 3.2, swapped them and kept the tt solid bush

(https://i.postimg.cc/X71mK0ns/20201205-122213.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnfxRwYP)

Went to fcm alignment in Bristol, set camber to 1.8 at front and 1.5 at rear. Not exactly race car settings yet but I'd rather increment than go from one extreme to the other. Can honestly say the balance has totally changed from just this alone, well worth mod.

Just changed discs and pads all round, brembo plain discs with black diamond pads. Very budget set up but will give it a trial at next track day!

Swapped pcv valve to a new one with new hoses as had a vacuum leak somewhere, huge difference in throttle response, obviously not been right for a while!

I'm a bit weird and don't really listen to music in or out the car so did a radio delete, took the pic before I slotted it back in place hence it looks a bit loose:

(https://i.postimg.cc/wM4HZfmH/20210108-122818.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Hcrh1PF)

Took some interior bits out just to check weight out of curiosity. Some of you may be interested....
Spare wheel and tool kit: 18.4kg
Rear seats (bench and backs): 29.9kg

(https://i.postimg.cc/qMQjVfq2/20210103-111549.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfz9T59G)

Fitted it all back for now but will try and experiment at how it effects handling at next track day by taking stuff out at lunch time maybe.

Just fitted tow strap because why not. Its an adjustable trs one, bolted to furthest bolt away from radiator that ties crash bar to chassis. From what I've found its safe to do so as it will only be used to load on a trailer via this. And well... if I'm wrong... its just a piece of tin at end of day lol!

(https://i.postimg.cc/FK0Svcpw/20210210-172227.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1g5Xc8LK)

Will be taking it to Llandow again hopefully in April. Next job outside of maintenence is going to be suspension, likely coilovers and probably b14 from bilstein. If you have some suggestions for a budget track build though I am all ears!!  :smiley:

Feel free to offer suggestions/opinions or criticise me for doing everything wrong and half arsed lol.

Hopefully the wallet allows some more updates soon....

Cheers!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Mekaniko on February 11, 2021, 01:32:28 pm
Nice project, regarding the suspension I would go for something more track focused as KW V3 maybe? HSD monopro?

Remove the ineterior is OK, but maybe I would wait for it unti is mor a track car as for me the GTI is a good ClubSport compromise and can be confortable and efective at the same time.

Keep posting!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on February 11, 2021, 02:12:46 pm
I would love to but cannot really justify the cost of them right now.... and suspension is on its way out so thought b14 might be a good ok priced alternative. Maybe its just worth waiting until I can get the good stuff on there though.... rather than do a half arsed attempt.

I don't know much about hsd. Do they make a set for the mk5? Cannot seem to find a set after a quick Google search anyway...
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: colesey on February 11, 2021, 05:36:34 pm
Maybe BC Racing / Relentless could be a better value option? The adjustable top mounts will give you more camber which is beneficial for track work.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Mekaniko on February 15, 2021, 10:21:19 am
I would love to but cannot really justify the cost of them right now.... and suspension is on its way out so thought b14 might be a good ok priced alternative. Maybe its just worth waiting until I can get the good stuff on there though.... rather than do a half arsed attempt.

I don't know much about hsd. Do they make a set for the mk5? Cannot seem to find a set after a quick Google search anyway...

B14 is an excelent suspension you will never regret, but as you say that you are on budget just check for more options track focused before the purchase.

Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on February 20, 2021, 09:43:53 am
Good to see another track build, and one so close to me!

I have BC Coilovers on mine and they've been great.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on February 20, 2021, 10:30:48 am
I've been following your build thread, very impressive mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on February 20, 2021, 01:06:55 pm
I've been following your build thread, very impressive mate  :happy2:

Thanks man, appreciate that! Some big updates to come once all the parts get here...
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on March 05, 2021, 01:36:04 pm
So after hearing the new lockdown regulations. Booked in to Thruxton for 15 April with Trackdays, if anyone here is attending feel free to say hello. Bought a couple cubes of quantum 5w30 a while back, where as now wish I got a more motorsport orientated 5w40 oil... so will do a pre and post oil change just so use it up basically!

 Bought a magnetic sump plug, never used them before but seems a popular thing to do:

(https://i.postimg.cc/FsfvbTpT/20210305-131333.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8jVxNBqv)

Also got a can of liqui moly injection cleaner, used redex a few times and not noticed any difference but i hear people raving about this one so thought why not its under a 10er so.

If anyone here is a bit of a fuss pot with pressure guages like me then found an ideal solution, I had a sealey digital guage which was accurate but the quick release connector was a nightmare I found, so essentially I bought another guage to swap the connector a clip on chuck one instead.
 Basically bought these two here https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/sealey-tyre-pressure-gauge-digital-with-swivel-head-quick-release-tst-pg98-seatst-pg98/ and  https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/sealey-tyre-pressure-gauge-with-clip-on-chuck-tst-pg6-seatst-pg6/ and took the secure fitting clip on chuck from the latter and with a 14mm spanner and a pair of grips and a lot of force wound it onto the digital one so it was air tight. Now I have an accurate guage with a solid connection and a bleeder valve :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRkHg5z9/20210304-102217.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y43QLk9k)
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on March 08, 2021, 04:26:26 pm
I bought a Gold Plug sump plug for mine.

If it was me, I'd probably be selling that 5W/30 and buy 5W/40 for track.

Have you looked in to the BC or Relentless coilovers? Very good bang for buck!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on March 08, 2021, 04:51:23 pm
I bought a Gold Plug sump plug for mine.

If it was me, I'd probably be selling that 5W/30 and buy 5W/40 for track.

Have you looked in to the BC or Relentless coilovers? Very good bang for buck!

I was 50/50 about the oil tbh... the fact that someone else has mentioned it has convinced me to change! Just ordered millers nanodrive 5w40.

Yeah I have, they seem to go for a bit more than b14 and tbh I've read a lot less durability issues from bilstein than I have bc racing which is kind of swaying me.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on March 08, 2021, 05:12:48 pm
Good choice with the oil mate.

I've had my BC's about 2 years i think now with zero issues - and i thrash the car. Mother has had them on her scooby for about 9 years, only thing that's ever done was a top mount, it was being daily driven for about 6 years!  :happy2: Just clean them every now and then and they'll be sound.

Either way good suspension/brakes are a great mod for these. Brakes for mine was a great one to do. Standards just didn't cut it for me. Plus, quarry corner at nearly 130mph with little to no brakes is not fun, at all.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on March 08, 2021, 05:26:03 pm
Is that the br series ones then or others? Do they come with top mounts for the mk5 gti then? I'm sure i read its manufacturer/model dependent as that would save getting some uprated ttrs ones additionally which was on my list of things to do...
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on March 09, 2021, 12:11:32 pm
We both have the BR series that came with pillow ball top mounts. On the golf was only the fronts and had to swap the rears.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on March 09, 2021, 02:20:03 pm
We both have the BR series that came with pillow ball top mounts. On the golf was only the fronts and had to swap the rears.

Did it come with adjustable drop links as well? Some of the pics I've seen looks like it has front drop links but not rears?
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on March 09, 2021, 02:23:39 pm
We both have the BR series that came with pillow ball top mounts. On the golf was only the fronts and had to swap the rears.

Did it come with adjustable drop links as well? Some of the pics I've seen looks like it has front drop links but not rears?

Not adjustable no. Just normal mate.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Xcore on March 09, 2021, 10:09:01 pm
Il be at thruxton on the 15th! Either in a red r53 mini or a standardish ed30!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on March 09, 2021, 10:28:46 pm
Il be at thruxton on the 15th! Either in a red r53 mini or a standardish ed30!

Nice mate! See you there  :happy2:
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on April 19, 2021, 05:12:20 pm
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Been a busy boy in the last week with buying a house and a great trip to Thruxton.

The black diamond pads did not fair too well, although they did have a nice feel to them but I had to keep an eye on them throughout the day and did not have much confidence in them in heavy braking zones, thinking of giving pbs pads a go, they sound like a reasonably priced but very capable option.

Trying to keep the momentum up through goodwood and church really made me realise just how badly I need new suspension... I like how much bang for your buck you get with bc racing but as this is a real budget build I'm not ruling out the cheaper durable, durable and simple bilstein b8 dampers with eibach (b12 kit) or vogtland springs.

Its very hard to tell as the suspension is old and worn now but fairly often when under high lateral load I could feel something strange in the rear of the car... almost feels like a slight dab of the rear brakes making me think its the stability kicking in all the time? Either that or the compression of the rear dampers being so soft over bumps or just because its knackered, hopefully it will go away with a refresh, if anyone has had issues with stability control on track though let me know your findings!

Tyres are pretty dead now so a good excuse to change for some ns2r's finally. Weirdly though as its a mostly right turn track like most circuits are... my tyres on the right hand side seem to be in a worse state with blistering and some cuts on the tread.... would have assumed its just heat related as the tyres were overheating quite often as you would imagine being normal road tyres but as ots only my tyres on the right I'm wondering if its kerb related? While I hit some of the kerbs I avoid the super aggressive ones and the ones I did hit did not feel like they were aggressive anyway? See below:


(https://i.postimg.cc/1XhdBNz2/20210416-085157.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9DbfFmk)
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: rich83 on April 19, 2021, 05:55:00 pm
How much front camber are you set up with?
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on April 19, 2021, 06:01:59 pm
-1.8 at front.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on April 21, 2021, 10:07:40 am
Not at all jealous you've got out this year   :sad1:

Do you know what condition the rear bushes are in?
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on April 21, 2021, 11:25:00 am
Not at all jealous you've got out this year   :sad1:

Do you know what condition the rear bushes are in?

Not so good I imagine, pretty sure they are factory.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on April 21, 2021, 12:49:50 pm
Not at all jealous you've got out this year   :sad1:

Do you know what condition the rear bushes are in?

Not so good I imagine, pretty sure they are factory.
Perhaps look into replacing/upgrading them mate. If you want powerflex, I can do 15% off retail pricing.


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Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on April 21, 2021, 02:07:17 pm
Not at all jealous you've got out this year   :sad1:

Do you know what condition the rear bushes are in?

Not so good I imagine, pretty sure they are factory.
Perhaps look into replacing/upgrading them mate. If you want powerflex, I can do 15% off retail pricing.

Oh thats very interesting. May take you up on that sometime soon!

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Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Mekaniko on April 21, 2021, 04:06:02 pm
Maybe you can change your rims for a 17' ones? Less weight as the OEM ones are very heavy as far as I know, pro-track are very good on quality-price.

Regarding the tires, this tyre profile still quite good to have a track use but a semi-slick tyre will be a game changer, AR-1 will do a excelent job on it!

I have B12 on my GTI and it's a good suspension for daily driving but for track use I would not recomend it as it is too soft, go for BC ;) and specially if you will go for the slick tires.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on April 21, 2021, 06:53:36 pm
Maybe you can change your rims for a 17' ones? Less weight as the OEM ones are very heavy as far as I know, pro-track are very good on quality-price.

Regarding the tires, this tyre profile still quite good to have a track use but a semi-slick tyre will be a game changer, AR-1 will do a excelent job on it!

I have B12 on my GTI and it's a good suspension for daily driving but for track use I would not recomend it as it is too soft, go for BC ;) and specially if you will go for the slick tires.

Wheels are on my list and yeah probably will just get a set of ns2r for now but would like to have a spare set of ar1's for dry use.  Ahh i assumed as they are monotube and up rated they may be OK but fair enough sounds like bc racing is deffo the way to go.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Mekaniko on April 22, 2021, 08:10:09 am
Yes, Ar-1 are very good tires but will not work if the track is not dry.

Did you know about Zestino? Good tires for the money.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on April 24, 2021, 08:13:19 pm
Yes, Ar-1 are very good tires but will not work if the track is not dry.

Did you know about Zestino? Good tires for the money.

Not heard of them actually. Dry only sort of semi slick? Or ok for wet track work as well?
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Mekaniko on April 28, 2021, 05:46:55 pm
Yes, Ar-1 are very good tires but will not work if the track is not dry.

Did you know about Zestino? Good tires for the money.

Not heard of them actually. Dry only sort of semi slick? Or ok for wet track work as well?

Never driven it on wet track but I heared good reports from it.

https://zestinoeurope.eu/semi-slick/ 
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on May 01, 2021, 01:36:03 pm

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Don't notice it at speed but turns out the kerb at church is actually just a cheese grater which explain the tyres I think!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on May 01, 2021, 01:47:29 pm
So taken the strong decision this week and decided to sell the golf! Its much more financially acceptable frankly to get a caged track car than it is to turn mine into one so decided to sell on and will be looking for something over the next couple months that suits me.

If anyones interested let me know, some brief details are:
Just over 100k
Fsh
One side skirt is black and one is red so may need painting if it bugs you
2 brand new good year eagle f1 tyres to be fitted in the next week
New brembo discs with black diamond pads front and back in the last 1000 odd miles
Cam follower and pcv and pcv hoses changed in the last 1000ish miles
Major service done by me in October about 2000 miles ago
Oil change and filter (5w40) done less than 1000 miles ago in March
Exterior is decent but has typical age related marks, and mis matched side skirt interior is very good
Will be sticking radio, fog grilles etc back on
Audi tt wishbones and ball joints for adjustable camber
Ecs magnetic oil plug

Got the following spares to go with:
Front Audi tt alloy hubs
2/3 spare oil filters
Haynes manual
Fog grille(s)
Copper oil washers for oil plug
And probably some other little nic naks lying around in the garage that I've forgotten

Just spending the weekend/week getting it ready so should be up for sale next sunday/Monday I imagine.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Mekaniko on May 03, 2021, 02:28:31 pm
Well done, e36 time ;)
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on May 03, 2021, 02:37:40 pm
Well done, e36 time ;)

Haha! Seen a couple come up but a lot of rust boxes about!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on May 22, 2021, 04:34:29 pm
Well selling it went well.... not! Had it up for all of aboutb10 minutes and with a bunch of dodgy daves calling me the second it was live it made me realise I was gutted to be parting with and really didn't want the faff of selling it so took the ad down  :stupid:

Annoyingly put some new standard good year road tyres on to sell but now stuck with them. Not sure when the next track day will be yet... got a few jobs to do and we will go from there.

Currently in the middle of measuring up and making some brake ducts... got a few trinkets arriving soon that I can test fit. If people are interested I may do a d.i.y thread for the ducts as I notice there isn't much info at all out there for the mk5 and brake ducts.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZpvQxbp/20210522-144033.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNXZNHsL)
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: shannon-ob on May 23, 2021, 08:55:53 am
Glad to see that you’re keeping it buddy.

I may be interested in brake ducts.


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Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on May 23, 2021, 09:20:58 am
Cool, yeah got to do something to sort these brakes out until I can get a bbk like you have :jumping:
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: bobby_fodge on May 23, 2021, 11:52:27 am
Very keen and seeing your ducts, I keep thinking about making some.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on May 28, 2021, 09:22:58 pm
Seems most of the bits I've ordered have been delayed frustratingly so Still not been able to sort the ducting.

 Having a quick poke around, hoping to keep the dust shield and place the duct here via riveted air outlet to get the air through the veins of the discs rather than just hitting it. We will see! May end up scrapping the shield if it doesn't not work round and simply aiming the duct at the centre of the discs via some cable ties. As you can see it's like a sea of rust behind there right now.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MKTYtnxq/20210526-192925.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bd7bwNsB)

Got some Audi TT hubs recently for the weight saving and the higher roll centre it adds, slightly regretting it now however as I've realised I need the steering rack, drive shafts, steering arms and code out the rack.... seems a lot of work so may leave it for now.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7LysBqm9/20210503-142905.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXp1vRFQ)

Got some new RP-X and RP-1 pads delivered. Awesome Gti doing a deal where you get one set for free for buying the other. Essentially 350 quids worth of pads for half the price. Think it runs until the end of the month, seems like an awesome deal to be fair so jumped on it. Heard good things about these so far so looking forward to check them out, quite an aggressive bedding in process as well, will probably require doing it on track or a 6am country road job!

(https://i.postimg.cc/3R938SkM/20210528-172037.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJkwgPGg)

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Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on June 05, 2021, 04:37:59 pm
So been experimenting with the ducts today. Clearance is more of an issue than I thought, I cannot seem to find an area where I can get a 51mm pointed at the centre of the discs to enter the veins and keep the bearings cool. May be able to do it if you ditch the dust shield but all the screws on mine are rounded and cba to deal with them today so thought I'd give this a go for now, its not the ideal location but it's still got to be a benefit over stock anyway. I'd like to check the temperatures at next track day with the ducting open and when it's covered up to see how much difference it makes.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kMhWzjRT/20210605-115313.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtZyB5qX)

I've just added a few cable ties to keep it semi stiff and lots of tape to protect it from rubbing against other components.

(https://i.postimg.cc/LXFmJFWx/20210605-132741.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9HGQ24N)

I've just noticed aswell there is some very minor rubbing on the tyre where it enters into the front bumper area which is a bit annoying so I will try to drill another hole further back in the hope there is more clearance. It was only at full lock to be honest but just in case il give it another go soon.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4NmjRFLy/20210605-132821.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppMsDktM)

For the inlet section I've not decided whether to go front fog delete and cut into the bumper slightly to mount it or just have it hanging behind the open fog grille area with some cable ties, this way I can keep fog lights and have a sort of grille to stop big chunks of crap getting in but it's not as stable then obviously.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1XLkjGZJ/20210604-190103.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N2kCyrFH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/66k6SRck/20210604-141310.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXY8fnh5)

This is just a little update for now, once I'm happy with the setup and it's survived a couple of road miles i will do a proper write up!

Any suggestions so far then I am all ears! :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: rex on June 07, 2021, 08:15:46 pm
I did something similar with regards to the brake ducts, but I think since the photobucket episode, the photos are not longer available in the dedicated thread (http://"https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59104.0.html").
Here are a few thoughts:
- If you have the RLine grills - it is far easier to install the brake ducts - I also cover them in winter for example.
- You can have a mounting point above the suspension arm
- I also used the dust shield to install the other end, but I covered a part of the tube to direct the air towards the vanes and not the disc side.

Here are a few photos (I think I will update the brake dusts thread when I have some spare time):

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(https://live.staticflickr.com/813/41568775722_4eba292020_o.jpg)

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Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on June 07, 2021, 09:41:54 pm
Thanks @rex (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2615) , I was reading that thread but very hard to understand your thinking without the images! This helps a great deal.

 I've since read this article: https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog/do-i-need-brake-ducts-on-my-track-car

Which has made me realise its not that pointing it to the inner face is not ideal its likely causing disc issues down the line.

I've since removed this duct as I've been re thinking what to do, your implementation is interesting. Part of me has also been tempted to do this solution, not sure how effective it is thoigh as its not really brake ducting it's more increased air flow via a duct pointed to the hub area and removing the dust shield.

(https://i.postimg.cc/h41G6Tn3/70x4IOq.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/144PNgfp)
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: rex on June 12, 2021, 01:27:08 pm
Quote
Part of me has also been tempted to do this solution, not sure how effective it is though as its not really brake ducting it's more increased air flow via a duct pointed to the hub area and removing the dust shield.
Not really... It is providing air to where the disc actually needs it.
With this setup the brakes were performing great (absolutely no fade), even when really abused. Please keep in mind I have a 160hp car and the nqsbbk (Porsche Calipers) with RS29 pads.
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on June 12, 2021, 01:42:55 pm
Quote
Part of me has also been tempted to do this solution, not sure how effective it is though as its not really brake ducting it's more increased air flow via a duct pointed to the hub area and removing the dust shield.
Not really... It is providing air to where the disc actually needs it.
With this setup the brakes were performing great (absolutely no fade), even when really abused. Please keep in mind I have a 160hp car and the nqsbbk (Porsche Calipers) with RS29 pads.

I meant the picture I posted above rex, I've no doubt of your solution!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: rex on June 12, 2021, 09:11:52 pm
@Clarkj93 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=98143) I added the missing photos to the break ducts thread - it should be easier to go through.
As a conclusion, no matter which way you go, the more air you get in the wheel arc the better...
Here is how Porsche is cooling the brakes on my GT4 (the air is coming from the radiators):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50911939728_da9c72f683_o.jpg)

Best of luck!
Title: Re: Very budget track build
Post by: Clarkj93 on June 13, 2021, 12:07:42 pm
Thanks @rex (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2615) mate, that's really helpful :happy2: