MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Members Rides => Topic started by: Hurdy on October 08, 2011, 03:33:49 pm
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Finally got my sticky little mitts on the GTI today. :jumpmove:
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Only one pic though as it was chucking it down.
Just done the first 50 miles of driving based on the "run it hard" bedding in method :evilgrin:
Handles pretty well as standard, but there is definitely room for improvement.
Sets off the line like a scalded cat with the supercharger.
Definitely needs more power up top.
Even though I say it myself, it is a lovely little motor and should be a great new project for me to mess about with.
No Nitrous this time though :laugh:
Spec as follows.....
5dr
Deep Black Pearl
Climate control upgrade
Convenience pack (rain sensor, auto dimming mirror etc)
Sensor pack (Rear parking sensors, cruise control etc)
Winter pack (Heated seats, heated washer jets, low fluid light etc)
Xenon headlights with those awfully nice daytime fairy lights
MFSW.
Imminent arranged/bought mods
Uprated lower engine mount
Retro-fit RNS510 (newest model) and bluetooth module.
Stage 1 remap.
To do's...
Lightweight alloys
Full TBE
Intercooler
Intake
lowering - initially on springs and then fully adjustable coilovers when I see a decent development.
Lightweight battery
rear ARB
Uprated front brakes
Uprated rear lightweight calipers and pads
Contemplating...
Hybrid turbo upgrade
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looks great mate ;)
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a like the polo gtis :party:
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Love it :happy2:
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Looking good John, sounds like you've got the mods sussed. Looked forward to have a spin in it :laugh: :happy2:
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And it begins :P
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Will Keep an eye on this, very interested.
Right mods and you will be chasing TTRS's! and leaving behind Megane RS's!!
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Cheers chaps. Hopefully I'll get a stock dyne run on Monday :happy2:
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Another one getting a polo? :confused: Is there something I'm missing with these cars?
What happened to the plan to buy an Ariel Atom?
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What happened to the plan to buy an Ariel Atom?
He's not as young as he used to be :wink:
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Another one getting a polo? :confused: Is there something I'm missing with these cars?
What happened to the plan to buy an Ariel Atom?
I passed that idea on to QD :laugh:
Yes, you are missing something with the Polo........ You'll have to try one to find out what it is though :wink:
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Looking good, I'm really starting to like these. :grin:
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What happened to the plan to buy an Ariel Atom?
He's not as young as he used to be :wink:
And in another 2 weeks I'll be even older :sad1:
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How's the IS-F these days?
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Nice choice John! :happy2:
Does that mean you don't have to start each sentence with 'ahaaa' now? :grin:
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Where's the benchmark dyno run going to be John?
Stattler or nobles? :happy2:
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How's the IS-F these days?
It went in June. Only did 2k miles in 8 months,so,thought I'd buy something that I'd use more :happy2:
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Nice choice John! :happy2:
Does that mean you don't have to start each sentence with 'ahaaa' now? :grin:
:signLOL:
Everything now has to have a hole in it though :laugh:
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Where's the benchmark dyno run going to be John?
Stattler or nobles? :happy2:
Statllers - assuming Steve jr can get all the clutter off it :grin:
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:confused: why this after all the atom/fast toy talk :confused: don't get me wrong a great car but I would have kept the ed30 if I am honest :rolleye:
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:confused: why this after all the atom/fast toy talk :confused: don't get me wrong a great car but I would have kept the ed30 if I am honest :rolleye:
I get bored easily Matt :signLOL:
Plus it was an agreement to get a slightly smaller car that me and the wife could use after I was very I'll earlier this year. :happy2:
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Oh yeah I forgot about that mate :rolleye: as long as your well mate that's what counts then :happy2:
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lovely John :happy2:
can only imagine where itll be in a few months :jumpmove:
some more pics would be good too pls :happy2:
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Looks good. Enjoy
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Wonderful car (same engine of my Golf mk5 1.4 TSI with 170 hp) !! :)
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nice choice John :happy2:
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Subscribed :happy2:
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Very smart. Looking forward to progress updates,
It seems that Black Polo Gti's and maybe 135i BM's are the cars of the moment (which are not Golfs) on the the Mk5 GTi forum, suppose it just shows we're all keen on these nice motors.
Find myself pondering a Polo Bluemotion at the minute, but that may be the lure of big mpg and no tax..being a tight wad.
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what sort of power is it pushing with stage 1 mate
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Subscribed John, nice to see you back :happy2:
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Find myself pondering a Polo Bluemotion at the minute, but that may be the lure of big mpg and no tax..being a tight wad.
I tried one of these for a few days when the GTI was in the garage. Started off hating it, ended up loving it. At first I couldn't get my head around the lack of acceleration, but then I realised that that wasn't the point. It was seriously comfortable soaking up every bump I through at it, was frugal as can be, and the standard stereo is really great.
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Very nice. Looking forward to the progress. I have mine in with shark performance for DSG remap at the moment.
Whens the first 1/4 mile then?
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looking forward to this! :party:
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looking forward to this! :party:
Good to see you back on here Joe :happy2:..
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Where's the benchmark dyno run going to be John?
Stattler or nobles? :happy2:
Statllers - assuming Steve jr can get all the clutter off it :grin:
Hopefully be able to see it in the flesh soon, moving back to England. Good to see you back :happy2:
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Great to hear you are well again, John. :happy2:
Well you must be feeling a lot better.... You're back to all your car madness!
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Looking good. I take it these are 3 door only?
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Na his is five door
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Omg! 3 pages and I haven't modded her yet :laugh:
To answer a few more questions....
Yes, I will be doing qtr mile runs early next year
She will be going on a few track days, including at least one ring trip
I am feeling much better now and the modding madness will get going on Monday
Seen a few juicy cf bits already
Janner, really interested in the DSG map, so keep me posted :happy2:
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And John...
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Those are massive!!!
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Nice John, been looking at the options myself, thinking of getting something custom made :happy2:
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Those are massive!!!
Haha, I kind of like them, but they do look like some kind of disability aid :grin:
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Nice John, been looking at the options myself, thinking of getting something custom made :happy2:
Keep me posted as to what you are looking at then Steve. :happy2:
Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Those are massive!!!
Haha, I kind of like them, but they do look like some kind of disability aid :grin:
Cheeky :P :signLOL:
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I decided to have a gander at one of these. Cost almost as much as my ED30! :scared:
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I decided to have a gander at one of these. Cost almost as much as my ED30! :scared:
Try it against the price of an ED35 though :wink:
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great car :) looking forward to upgrades
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Nice John, been looking at the options myself, thinking of getting something custom made :happy2:
Just got the e-mail back on pricing!! :scared:
"Hello,
Thank you for inquiry.
Ultimate shifter is good for your car, but expensive. We have two kind of methods.
1. Complete replacement
Price is $899.99 USD, included genuine shifter.
2. Exchange
Price is $599.99 USD, required return back your shifter. It need $300USD deposit that is for our stock genuine shifter. Deposit will refund when we receiving your shifter immediately.
Best regards,
Steve"
Still tempted as I know it would almost definitely be unique with that price and more OEM+++++ than just OEM+ :rolleye:
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Ha, at least they're honest about it!
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Ha, at least they're honest about it!
:signLOL: That's for sure. :grin:
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the car hasn't used its first tank of petrol and its getting modded..bloody excellent :happy2:
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Is no one else slightly disappointed in Hurdy's modding list. :chicken: This Hurdy we are talking about here. :driver:
I am sure it will get a bit more bonkers as time goes by. Lovely little car John. :drinking:
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Imminent arranged/bought mods
Uprated lower engine mount
Retro-fit RNS510 (newest model) and bluetooth module.
Stage 1 remap.
REVO i presume? Was chatting with them at inters and they didnt seem keen on going much more than stage 2 until the issues they see know of with the engines are sorted at factory level
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Imminent arranged/bought mods
Uprated lower engine mount
Retro-fit RNS510 (newest model) and bluetooth module.
Stage 1 remap.
REVO i presume? Was chatting with them at inters and they didnt seem keen on going much more than stage 2 until the issues they see know of with the engines are sorted at factory level
Yes, revo.
I was talking to the VW dealer and he was adamant that the upgrade pistons and rings are now fitted :happy2:
Stage two will only last me a month......I need more......w/meth, hybrid turbo or maybe a garrett upgrade :evilgrin:
Just looking at genuine carbon fibre kits to do some custom stuff for myself. Plenty to keep me busy till the next show season....and.....maybe a few surprises along the way to keep even TC happy :wink:
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Stock map dyno run today....the first of many dyno runs most likely :party:
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Just ordered NGK plugs, ITG intake and a tasty upgrade brake system :drool: and had it's first oil change to Mobil 1 fully synthetic 0w40.
More later............. :popcornsoda:
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2.3bhp short John? :popcornsoda:
Looking foward to seeing what u do me ole mate :happy2:
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1.3 ?? :laugh: ^^^
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I'm pretty sure that the same numbers that Ryan's made when stock...
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Errrrr you r both wrong! It's up by 1.2 Bhp!
It's 180PS remember, so 177.5 bhp.
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1.3 ?? :laugh: ^^^
Fat fingers :signLOL: honest!!!
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1.3 ?? :laugh: ^^^
Fat fingers :signLOL: honest!!!
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Errrrr you r both wrong! It's up by 1.2 Bhp!
It's 180PS remember, so 177.5 bhp.
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:ashamed: lol
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Oh dear, I feel a double fail pic coming :signLOL:
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Oh dear, I feel a double fail pic coming :signLOL:
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1.3 ?? :laugh: ^^^
Stock VW figure is 180ps = 178bhp :happy2:
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I have the mapped figure too, but can't upload it off my bl00dy phone!!
Stock was 178.7bhp and 178.3lbft
Stage 1 map is now 212.6bhp and 222.8lbft with just the map and the NGK plugs. :happy2:
That is an increase of 19% on bhp and 25% on torque.
Steve Jr says it is like a mini ED30. :signLOL:
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^^^ It's really is like a mini ED30 :happy2:
Have you gone for the BKR7EIX plugs John?
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^^^ It's really is like a mini ED30 :happy2:
Have you gone for the BKR7EIX plugs John?
Sure have Steve. REVO list them on their website as recommended for their stage 2 map too. :happy2:
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Got mine ready to go in :happy2:
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Got mine ready to go in :happy2:
That's great. You going to stage 2?
Here's my stage 1 dyno result.
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Hurdy, i remember coming across your build thread on the eddy afew years back, totally EPIC car, and totally bananas! I am so looking forward to seeing this cars evolution. Have you got anymore pics of her yet? :smiley:
Marty
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Only just clocked this thread. The new Polos are rather nice.
Have you driven a Fabia VRS? Interested to know how it compares. I wasnt impressed at all by it (the VRS).
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Only just clocked this thread. The new Polos are rather nice.
Have you driven a Fabia VRS? Interested to know how it compares. I wasnt impressed at all by it (the VRS).
The New Fabia VRs is still based on the old Ibiza Platform. The Polo has a new chassis and suspension :happy2:
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Definitely needs a jab with the lowering stick.
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Bilstein B16 PSS10's ordered :party:
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It needs a good old wallop John!
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Looks well smart, this gunna' be good! :popcornsoda:
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Congrats on the car Hurdy. Looks very nice.
Also good choice with the PSS10's :D
PS: what brake have you ordered? :party:
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Depends on whether they do Tarox 10-pots for the Polo. :grin:
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Congrats on the car Hurdy. Looks very nice.
Also good choice with the PSS10's :D
PS: what brake have you ordered? :party:
Cheers Teff,
I've gone for Tarox 6 pots with a single piece 323mm disc, corsa pads and braided lines.....in cherry red. Very capable kit with matched cylinder volume size to the Polo/MKIV Golf single pot, so should feel much better. Should be here and on the car by the end of the month along with the Bilsteins :driver:
Depends on whether they do Tarox 10-pots for the Polo. :grin:
They would fit, but I don't need as much stopping power as those heavy Golfs :wink:
Still debating the rear upgrade as I don't really need a huge hike for them.
Currently looking into the Turbo upgrade, but only as a passing fancy at the moment :innocent:
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Congrats on the car Hurdy. Looks very nice.
Also good choice with the PSS10's :D
PS: what brake have you ordered? :party:
Cheers Teff,
I've gone for Tarox 6 pots with a single piece 323mm disc, corsa pads and braided lines.....in cherry red. Very capable kit with matched cylinder volume size to the Polo/MKIV Golf single pot, so should feel much better. Should be here and on the car by the end of the month along with the Bilsteins :driver:
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Links please
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Good job Hurdy, can't wait to see the car with TAROX's and PSS10's :drool:
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Congrats on the car Hurdy. Looks very nice.
Also good choice with the PSS10's :D
PS: what brake have you ordered? :party:
Cheers Teff,
I've gone for Tarox 6 pots with a single piece 323mm disc, corsa pads and braided lines.....in cherry red. Very capable kit with matched cylinder volume size to the Polo/MKIV Golf single pot, so should feel much better. Should be here and on the car by the end of the month along with the Bilsteins :driver:
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Links please
I've gone for the B30-6 ones. :happy2:
I'll PM you Sy if you are interested :smiley:
http://en.tarox.com/products/brake-system-compact.html
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Yes please :party: :party:
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Bit of a delay on the ITG intake........
The ones that Revo currently sell are the same design that is on the Seat Cupra and has to take into account that the Seat has a battery fitted up front. ITG are currently re-designing the intake for the Polo GTI to be specific for it and so will allow for better filtration and airflow. ETA for the New improved intake is around 3 weeks though :sad1:
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Bit of a delay on the ITG intake........
The ones that Revo currently sell are the same design that is on the Seat Cupra and has to take into account that the Seat has a battery fitted up front. ITG are currently re-designing the intake for the Polo GTI to be specific for it and so will allow for better filtration and airflow. ETA for the New improved intake is around 3 weeks though :sad1:
You might know someone who is already helping them get this up and running on a Polo GTI :wink:
There should be an update by the end of tomorrow.
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Bit of a delay on the ITG intake........
The ones that Revo currently sell are the same design that is on the Seat Cupra and has to take into account that the Seat has a battery fitted up front. ITG are currently re-designing the intake for the Polo GTI to be specific for it and so will allow for better filtration and airflow. ETA for the New improved intake is around 3 weeks though :sad1:
You might know someone who is already helping them get this up and running on a Polo GTI :wink:
There should be an update by the end of tomorrow.
I had an inkling that you maybe at the centre of this Steve :laugh:
Let me know how it goes as I've already paid for the generic one, but will be getting the same one as you then :party:
I have an awful lot of stuff coming over the next week and I think Steve at Statllers will need a private corner for them until they go on the car :signLOL:
Have you seen the ATB LSD or the intercooler that APR Australia have on their Polo Steve?
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I will share what I can tomorrow, but the stuff I have seen when I went down to ITG three weeks ago looked very good already :smiley:
Mine's in for more stuff at KPM tomorrow as well :party:
Haven't seen the APR stuff, got any links?
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+1 on the links for tthe apr australia
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Here you go chaps. :happy2:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.199689973375178.54014.197439520266890
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Very good read of it here vs other tuned fwds goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf (http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf)
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Wow that intake is so easy to make lol
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Very good read of it here vs other tuned fwds goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf (http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf)
Now that is very interesting. Faster around most corners than all the other cars and a faster lap time than the Focus RS :party:
Nurburgring, here I come :signLOL:
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Very good read of it here vs other tuned fwds goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf (http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf)
Now that is very interesting. Faster around most corners than all the other cars and a faster lap time than the Focus RS :party:
Nurburgring, here I come :signLOL:
Its crazy isnt it. Mid corner speed only matched by the stage 4 golf with circa 380hp which is circa 160hp more powerful :driver:
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A Polo GTI is starting to make more sense. :scared:
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You know it makes sense Stealth. :happy2:
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They have their turbo off for a replacement upgrade znd the diff but i cant find any info about either
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They have their turbo off for a replacement upgrade znd the diff but i cant find any info about either
:love: MMMMMMMM diff. :love:
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Woohooo!
The Bilsteins of goodness have arrived today. Should be fitted next Wednesday when I get a day off. :happy2:
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How come you went for the bilsteins over say KW V3s etc. Reading the apr polo gti page it seems they chose H&R as their coilovers in lieu of the kw options.
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How come you went for the bilsteins over say KW V3s etc. Reading the apr polo gti page it seems they chose H&R as their coilovers in lieu of the kw options.
Fter having the KW V3's for 2 years and gone for Bilsteins now, i would chose Bilsteins anytime. So much more balanced driving with them and you can actually adjust all parameters with them fitted to the car
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How come you went for the bilsteins over say KW V3s etc. Reading the apr polo gti page it seems they chose H&R as their coilovers in lieu of the kw options.
I had eibach coil overs ( KW dampers! ) and went through 2 sets of dampers in2 years. The Bilsteins were nothing short of excellent on my Golf after them, so I had absolutely no reason to doubt that they would be just as great on the Polo. Like Danish says, the ease of adjustability is so simple too. :happy2:
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might get a shot gun ride when its finished then John :innocent:
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might get a shot gun ride when its finished then John :innocent:
Not a problem. :happy2:
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Only just clocked this thread. The new Polos are rather nice.
Have you driven a Fabia VRS? Interested to know how it compares. I wasnt impressed at all by it (the VRS).
The New Fabia VRs is still based on the old Ibiza Platform. The Polo has a new chassis and suspension :happy2:
Does the vrs and the cupra share the same chassis?
What's new to the polo chassis? Independent rears?
This car will be kept a close eye on that's for sure! You dont hang about! :)
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The ibiza and gti share the same chassis which differs slightly from the vRS.but its not a new chassis really, more like an improved one from the previous model. Its not independant rear suspension though.
The vRS is an even stranger amalgamation of parts. Its largely the same chassis as previous models but with extra reinforcement, mk4 golf hu, different struts etc amongst other things.
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Congrats on your new car Hurdy, it seems I might be getting one soon as a city commute. I am also planning some mods like Revo and maybe ARBs but nothing spectacular as I'm also keeping my Golf wich will become a track car !
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I have the whiteline rarb with h&r springs but I would love the bilstein shockers!
As I said before I'm keeping a watchfull eye on this! :)
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Congrats on your new car Hurdy, it seems I might be getting one soon as a city commute. I am also planning some mods like Revo and maybe ARBs but nothing spectacular as I'm also keeping my Golf wich will become a track car !
Oooooh, another MKV track car project thread to follow :party:
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Some more goodness arrived at Chez Hurdy today.....
The Bilstein coilovers
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Team Dynamics pro Race 1.2 alloys and Yokohama Parada Spec 2 tyres, along with the lightweight race battery and underneath it all....The Milltek Turbo-back exhaust system and Whiteline Rear ARB. :drool: Don't mention the garage carpet! :ashamed:
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Some more goodness arrived at Chez Hurdy today.....
The Bilstein coilovers
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Team Dynamics pro Race 1.2 alloys and Yokohama Parada Spec 2 tyres, along with the lightweight race battery and underneath it all....The Milltek Turbo-back exhaust system and Whiteline Rear ARB. :drool: Don't mention the garage carpet! :ashamed:
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Your mods so far i get, but choosing a 10 year old tyredesign i don't get :confused:
Any particular reason Hurdy? :smiley:
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^^ they look like the wheels and tyres and all the other bits from Blade's Polo? :happy2:
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Coincidently Ry is now advertising the Polo as Standard good purchasing John :evilgrin:
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I see what you did there John :laugh:
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^^ they look like the wheels and tyres and all the other bits from Blade's Polo? :happy2:
Yup, at a price I couldn't ignore too. :happy2:
Alloy spec that I wanted, exhaust spec I wanted, rear arb and race battery too. Ryan got a great deal and so did I.
I must admit that the condition of all the goods were brilliant too. Cheers Ryan. :happy2:
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That's you fully set up with you wislist now isn't it
Bilsteins
RARB
Tarox brakes
Light weight wheels
TBE
ITG intake
Just the stage 2 upgrade to go
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That's you fully set up with you wislist now isn't it
Bilsteins
RARB
Tarox brakes
Light weight wheels
TBE
ITG intake
Just the stage 2 upgrade to go
Not far off. I just need an intercooler and a few smaller bits and I'll be sorted until Christmas when there may well be further developments :wink:
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN!!
:happy2:
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Cheers Steve :happy2:
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This polo is going to be one little beast, i followed your golf build thread on lowdown vw ! And you share the same birthday as me :drinking: have a good one mate!
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Happy Bday guys !
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happy birthday mr hurdy
cant wait 2 see the outcome of this lil beast :evilgrin:
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Happy bday dude.
I reckon these'll be amazingly quick down the strip. Especially if he goes nitrous again! :party:
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Happy bday dude.
I reckon these'll be amazingly quick down the strip. Especially if he goes nitrous again! :party:
Nudge.....water/meth......nudge. :wink:
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hurdy do u reckon it would b worth w/methin a stage 2/2+ ed30???
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Little off topic John but has steve jnr put water meth on his golf yet interested in the AEM kit but think ill let steve be the guinea pig first.
Also has he tryed the Hybrid on a Revo map yet?
Happy Birthday aswell mate!
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hurdy do u reckon it would b worth w/methin a stage 2/2+ ed30???
Yep, but only if you want more torque. W/m gives about 15bhp, but around35-40lbft
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Little off topic John but has steve jnr put water meth on his golf yet interested in the AEM kit but think ill let steve be the guinea pig first.
Also has he tryed the Hybrid on a Revo map yet?
Happy Birthday aswell mate!
Yep, Steve Jr says it is like having the power of an ed30 on a very cold day - every day!
Oh, and he says that they are so, soooo simple to use over some of the other kits.
He has some kits in now and I'm tempted just to keep the temps down. :happy2:
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hurdy do u reckon it would b worth w/methin a stage 2/2+ ed30???
Yep, but only if you want more torque. W/m gives about 15bhp, but around35-40lbft
ok thanks john :happy2:
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Interesting :popcornsoda:
what kit has he gone with? Has he put a tank in the boot or used the washer fluid tank?
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He is using a Devil's own meth kit. Located in the boot, but he also recommends using the washer fluid tank. :smiley:
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He is using a Devil's own meth kit. Located in the boot, but he also recommends using the washer fluid tank. :smiley:
Cheers John :happy2:
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Happy birthday John, Danny :happy2: Lowdown reunion birthday? lol
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He is using a Devil's own meth kit. Located in the boot, but he also recommends using the washer fluid tank. :smiley:
I think id go for a separate bottle personally. I go away for quite pro longed periods and id be fairly certain my mmisus would end up putting water fluid in there which surely wont be good if its sprayed into the inlet. Either that or they would fill it up during a service
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He is using a Devil's own meth kit. Located in the boot, but he also recommends using the washer fluid tank. :smiley:
I think id go for a separate bottle personally. I go away for quite pro longed periods and id be fairly certain my mmisus would end up putting water fluid in there which surely wont be good if its sprayed into the inlet. Either that or they would fill it up during a service
Not a problem I have as my missis has never filled anything in any car we have ever owned! :signLOL:
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the mods are coming fast...Happy birthday John :pomppomp:
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Are you thinking of WMI as well. Would you use it as an add on or would you tune for it. Be intrigued to see the potential gains on this engine, I think it could be more pronounced on this engine because of how hot it gets in the engine bay. That heat might also be a good reason for not using the washer bottle.
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He is using a Devil's own meth kit. Located in the boot, but he also recommends using the washer fluid tank. :smiley:
I think id go for a separate bottle personally. I go away for quite pro longed periods and id be fairly certain my mmisus would end up putting water fluid in there which surely wont be good if its sprayed into the inlet. Either that or they would fill it up during a service
Not a problem I have as my missis has never filled anything in any car we have ever owned! :signLOL:
John what are these two 11lb bottles in the boot dear?
Don't worry about those darling, infact don't ever worry about anything that seems unusual about the car on a monthly basis :signLOL: :signLOL:
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John what are these two 11lb bottles in the boot dear?
Don't worry about those darling, infact don't ever worry about anything that seems unusual about the car on a weekly basis :signLOL: :signLOL:
Fixed that for you Mike :evilgrin:
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John what are these two 11lb bottles in the boot dear?
Don't worry about those darling, infact don't ever worry about anything that seems unusual about the car on a weekly basis :signLOL: :signLOL:
Fixed that for you Mike :evilgrin:
Much more accurate, thanks :P
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Well, I thought that I'd better see what stuff weighs before it goes on the car, so here we are...
OEM wheels with tyres weigh 20.0kg - lighter than I thought.
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Team Dynamic Pro Race 1.2 alloys and tyres weigh in at 17.6kg - a saving of 2.4kg a corner.
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Spare came out of the boot = another 14kg gone.
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Bilstein B16 PSS10's weigh 20.5kg including the box!
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Milltek Stainless steel Turbo-back exhaust system weighs 19.4kg including the box I laid it on.
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Lightweight race battery weighs 7.3kg
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Once the OEM suspension and Exhaust is off I'll get a weight saving and post it up. :smiley:
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:pomppomp: :pomppomp:
Put them on the car ASAP :drool: :drool:
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Nice, very nice... Look like you are in a hurry :grin:.
One question: what are the rim and tire specs? I know you have TD pro race 1.2 but I am interested in rim width, offset and tire size.
Thanks!
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Nice, very nice... Look like you are in a hurry :grin:.
One question: what are the rim and tire specs? I know you have TD pro race 1.2 but I am interested in rim width, offset and tire size.
Thanks!
215/40/17 tyres.
7.5" x 17" ET36 TDPR alloys (OEM are 7" X 17" ET46)
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:pomppomp: :pomppomp:
Put them on the car ASAP :drool: :drool:
:laugh:
You could've had it done by now if you weren't obsessed weighing everything. :wink:
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:pomppomp: :pomppomp:
Put them on the car ASAP :drool: :drool:
:laugh:
You could've had it done by now if you weren't obsessed weighing everything. :wink:
:signLOL:
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Weighed the car today. Spare tyres in and half a tank of fuel and it weighed exactly 1,200kg. Gives me the baseline weight to work from. Aim is to get to 1,100 kg with the same amount of fuel.
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how did you manage to fit them on the bath room scales :signLOL:
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Weighed the car today. Spare tyres in and half a tank of fuel and it weighed exactly 1,200kg. Gives me the baseline weight to work from. Aim is to get to 1,100 kg with the same amount of fuel.
Where do you get this done? Id like to know mine as well. I take it you werent in the car?
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Weighed the car today. Spare tyres in and half a tank of fuel and it weighed exactly 1,200kg. Gives me the baseline weight to work from. Aim is to get to 1,100 kg with the same amount of fuel.
Where do you get this done? Id like to know mine as well. I take it you werent in the car?
I work at a paper converting company and we have a weighbridge. Measures to a kilo and guaranteed accuracy to that. :happy2: just parked up on the way out of work and popped into the gatehouse for a look.
And I wasn't in the car, I have a pic on my phone :signLOL:
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Weighed the car today. Spare tyres in....
You need to get to the gym John! :grin: :grin:
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Can't believe i've missed this John.. Good to see you back on the horse as it were.. :signLOL:
Are you going to same route as Ryan did, or further? Did you not look at buying his rather than new? Surely you would of saved a fortune??? No fun in that though I suppose and I know how you like your modding. :laugh: :party: :wink:
Anyway, SUBSCRIBED!!! :happy2:
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Hi Ben,
I'll be going further than Ryan did. Already have some of his bits and an intake cooler and bigger brakes are going to be fitted soon too. Need to get some more weight out of the car too. :happy2:
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if you fit an engine in the Boot John (I know reading that just have you a mini lightbulb moment lol) You can buy my surplus Braille battery :signLOL:
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Alloys now on and look oh so lovely and sparkly. :jumpmove:
I'm now feeling embarrassed to take pics due to the stock ride height :ashamed: :sad1:
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if you fit an engine in the Boot John (I know reading that just have you a mini lightbulb moment lol) You can buy my surplus Braille battery :signLOL:
did you say surplus battery delivered to nottingham in person.....
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if you fit an engine in the Boot John (I know reading that just have you a mini lightbulb moment lol) You can buy my surplus Braille battery :signLOL:
did you say surplus battery delivered to nottingham in person.....
thank's for correcting me, did you say you have £100 lying around? :P
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I might have some cash floating about,
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I might have some cash floating about,
PM me your address :happy2:
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This thread requires more pictures than currently supplied. :party: I see your old juices are starting to flow again. :pomppomp:
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I disagree with TC on this one, I have no wish to see pictures of John's juices flowing. :wink:
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I disagree with TC on this one, I have no wish to see pictures of John's juices flowing. :wink:
:sick:
Ian please :sad1:
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Pics of flowing juices will be provided tomorrow! :drinking: :scared:
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Pics of flowing juices will be provided tomorrow! :drinking: :scared:
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Here you go john,the australian Polo GTI is in VW driver magazine this month https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=299838320027009&set=a.199940826683426.54135.197439520266890&type=1&ref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=299838320027009&set=a.199940826683426.54135.197439520266890&type=1&ref=nf)
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Here you go John, keep that heat out of the engine bay
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-T3-T4-Blanket-Heat-Shield-Exhaust-Wrap-Combo-/120799774029?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c203a454d#ht_4050wt_1177 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-T3-T4-Blanket-Heat-Shield-Exhaust-Wrap-Combo-/120799774029?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c203a454d#ht_4050wt_1177)
Thats £63 buy it now, or place best offer.
They reckon they are that good, you can touch the outside of the turbo heatshield without burning your hand, That with some exhaust wrap and manifild wrap will make a pretty big difference i think
Not sure what size out turbo would equate to. The one above is T3/T4 sized. Theres also T 25 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-T25-TD06-Blanket-Heat-Shield-Exhaust-Wrap-Combo-/300613696691?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45fdf8fcb3#ht_4050wt_1177 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-T25-TD06-Blanket-Heat-Shield-Exhaust-Wrap-Combo-/300613696691?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45fdf8fcb3#ht_4050wt_1177)
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Here you go john,the australian Polo GTI is in VW driver magazine this month https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=299838320027009&set=a.199940826683426.54135.197439520266890&type=1&ref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=299838320027009&set=a.199940826683426.54135.197439520266890&type=1&ref=nf)
Cheers Sy. :happy2:
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Lower now, so here are a few pics
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Brakes have also landed in the UK, so I'll be picking them up on Friday. :smiley:
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Rear ARB and coilovers.
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What parts did you get from Ryan, John? Wheels and rear ARB?
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exhaust think as well
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Good find on the heat shields Sy :happy2:
Looking good already John :party:
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Starting to come together nicely John.. :wink: There's something about TD's wrapped in 888's that make me :drool:
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Woohoo,
Stage 2 put on the car today and it feels much livelier. :evilgrin:
Exhaust system sounds sublime with a sound that even Steve Jr at Statllers says sounds better than a 2.0TFSI and I have to agree.....of course. :drool: Lovely deep burble at idle and some nice "farts" from the car on gearchange and overrun crackle. :happy2:
Brakes should be fitted tomorrow - front.......and back :wink:
Dark tints on this weekend for the windows (neglected to tick the B pillar tint option :sad1:), but should be VERY dark. Then next week the front end will get a face upgrade :innocent:
and then water/meth. :evilgrin:
Got to keep myself busy on my 10 days off. :happy2:
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Nice done Hurdy
What brakes do you have for the rears? :D
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When is the dyno run then, John?
When was the stage 2 code released? IIRC Ryan said that Revo were holding back on the release until VAG had sorted out all the misfire's were sorted...
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Its been out for months
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It was about 4 months ago since I last spoke to Ryan, Sy :smiley:
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Nice done Hurdy
What brakes do you have for the rears? :D
Cheers Teff.
Just a minor upgrade to MK1 Leon Cupra brakes. IIRC 256mm vented brakes :happy2:
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When is the dyno run then, John?
When was the stage 2 code released? IIRC Ryan said that Revo were holding back on the release until VAG had sorted out all the misfire's were sorted...
Dyno set-up and run is tomorrow after the brakes are on.
Don't know when the stage 2 was released, but Steve Jr popped it on this afternoon and it is quite a bit gruntier than stage 1. The new 1.4TSi engines have the revised engine internals, so the issues should be resolved on them. I don't know what exactly has been changed, but my dealers assured me that they have been done. :happy2:
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When is the dyno run then, John?
When was the stage 2 code released? IIRC Ryan said that Revo were holding back on the release until VAG had sorted out all the misfire's were sorted...
Dyno set-up and run is tomorrow after the brakes are on.
Don't know when the stage 2 was released, but Steve Jr popped it on this afternoon and it is quite a bit gruntier than stage 1. The new 1.4TSi engines have the revised engine internals, so the issues should be resolved on them. I don't know what exactly has been changed, but my dealers assured me that they have been done. :happy2:
Look forward to the results mate :happy2:
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Im looking forward to getting my exhaust and intercooler (imminently) then im having my map turned up to the full shebang.
When i drop the car bck at sharks late next week im going to get my car dyno'd with stock and forge intkes as im doubtful of its actual performance gains. 210hp/260lbft stock intake and 213hp/230lbft with the forge, id rather the extra torque tbh.
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I'll see what happens when the intake arrives. Should be a good comparison Sy :happy2:
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I reckon Hurdy and SteveP might be able to put a lot of hothatches/sporty cars to shame with these polos. Imagine the looks on their face when some chump gets overtaken by a Polo and can't keep up!
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I reckon Hurdy and SteveP might be able to put a lot of hothatches/sporty cars to shame with these polos. Imagine the looks on their face when some chump gets overtaken by a Polo and can't keep up!
You should know all about Stealth mode :wink:
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hahaha best bet when you see them stealth then is to avoid them :signLOL:
wot you doin to the front end john ???
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hahaha best bet when you see them stealth then is to avoid them :signLOL:
wot you doin to the front end john ???
It is a "wait and see" mod :innocent:
Clue is "more stealthfighter" :party:
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Well I fetched my brakes today and they are brand new TAROX B30 - 6pots. The first set in the UK :party:
OEM brake disc, caliper and carrier weigh-in = 13.5kg
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm shiny new things :love: = 12.5kg, so bigger AND lighter = deep joy too.
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Caliper comparison to OEM
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Going on nicely.
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Even got my hands dirty today! :surprised:
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The final money shots....
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First impressions are excellent. The brake feel is superb and very progressive. There is more "feel" to the brakes and when used in anger are phenomenal at retarding speed. I'd even go as far as to say that they are better than the 10 pot TAROX's I had on the Golf - but the Golf is a heavier car. I can thoroughly recommend these if you have the money and there aren't many brake sets that look this good either. :drool: :happy2:
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Looks really good, Hurdy eventhough you slanter the 10 pots i bought from you :P
Still awaiting adaptors to fit the S3 hubs, but are looking forward to getting them on the car :party:
BTW your rims seems to have lost the writing on the side :confused: :wink:
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Looks really good, Hurdy eventhough you slanter the 10 pots i bought from you :P
Still awaiting adaptors to fit the S3 hubs, but are looking forward to getting them on the car :party:
BTW your rims seems to have lost the writing on the side :confused: :wink:
No, you misunderstand, the 10 pots were still very good, but the 6 pots on the Polo are better because of how little the Polo weighs :happy2:
Yep, Blade (Ryan) bought the alloys as a special order from VWRacing and they have the writing deleted and they don't need spigot rings. :jumpmove:
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Looks really good, Hurdy eventhough you slanter the 10 pots i bought from you :P
Still awaiting adaptors to fit the S3 hubs, but are looking forward to getting them on the car :party:
BTW your rims seems to have lost the writing on the side :confused: :wink:
No, you misunderstand, the 10 pots were still very good, but the 6 pots on the Polo are better because of how little the Polo weighs :happy2:
Yep, Blade (Ryan) bought the alloys as a special order from VWRacing and they have the writing deleted and they don't need spigot rings. :jumpmove:
I was blown away by how much difference the TD pro race 1.2 made compared to the 19" Audi splits due to the weightsaving, so i have just bought a second set for the Golf :party:
The Audi splits are now renegaded to the Wifey's Touran :grin:
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Brakes look awesome, John :drool:
Dyno relults?
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Boom! :notworthy:
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This is coming on very nicely John. Glad to see you back in the game again and full bore as usual! :happy2:
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The brakes looks awesome. Not keen on the rimage though - thinks Steve's looks better with the Monzas.
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Looks really good, Hurdy eventhough you slanter the 10 pots i bought from you :P
Still awaiting adaptors to fit the S3 hubs, but are looking forward to getting them on the car :party:
BTW your rims seems to have lost the writing on the side :confused: :wink:
No, you misunderstand, the 10 pots were still very good, but the 6 pots on the Polo are better because of how little the Polo weighs :happy2:
Yep, Blade (Ryan) bought the alloys as a special order from VWRacing and they have the writing deleted and they don't need spigot rings. :jumpmove:
Another devout convert to the TDPR 1.2 brethren. :happy2:
I was blown away by how much difference the TD pro race 1.2 made compared to the 19" Audi splits due to the weightsaving, so i have just bought a second set for the Golf :party:
The Audi splits are now renegaded to the Wifey's Touran :grin:
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The brakes looks awesome. Not keen on the rimage though - thinks Steve's looks better with the Monzas.
Ah, but I have something verrrrry special in mind for show rimmage Andrew :innocent:
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Oooooh, intrigued now!
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Oooooh, intrigued now!
You may not like it though......afterall I have to show the brakes off somehow :laugh:
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Gold rims on a black car gets a thumbs up from me!
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fantastic John :happy2:
love your attention to detail as usual. :notworthy:
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Those brakes look awesome, although i hope you like the taste of your steering wheel as when you step on them hard your gonna be slammed :signLOL:
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lookin good john :happy2:
fancy oulton on the 26th nov :smiley:
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lookin good john :happy2:
fancy oulton on the 26th nov :smiley:
I do fancy it, I checked the dates and looked at my work rota and ......... I'm working :sad1:
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lookin good john :happy2:
fancy oulton on the 26th nov :smiley:
I do fancy it, I checked the dates and looked at my work rota and ......... I'm working :sad1:
bugger :laugh:
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Quick pic from today now the brakes are on. :smiley:
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That looks magic hurdy! Brakes look insane, I feel sorry for the people behind if you ever have to do an emergency stop :)
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I do find myself preparing for a rear impact when I brake hard. :laugh:
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Very nice John. :happy2: its weird but every time i see this car i find it hard to see it as yours for some reason. :happy2: Suppose it will once you start doing crazy stuff. :wink:
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What do people think to a black and gold themed Polo?
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its your car John do what you like with it but it should look good
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i reckon it would look the b0llox dude
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Black and gold is Ghey!. :wink:
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Black and carbon then TC?
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What are you talking, bonnet and mirrors or the full kabudle. :smiley:
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Black and carbon then TC?
Not again John :P. If you go carbon route again you must ditch the TDs and go Dymag... :party:
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I'd love it! :happy2:
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Very nice golf :D Tarox brakes best brakes out there.
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Very nice golf :D Tarox brakes best brakes out there.
Huh? Lol
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What do people think to a black and gold themed Polo?
Big thumbs up from me.
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Very nice golf :D Tarox brakes best brakes out there.
Huh? Lol
ooops only looked at the last pic really quick easy mistake lol
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Very nice golf :D Tarox brakes best brakes out there.
Huh? Lol
ooops only looked at the last pic really quick easy mistake lol
Last pic is a Polo :P
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Had the Polo on the Rollers again today.
Firstly I'll start with an apology - the first dyno result was 213bhp UNCORRECTED and should have been 206bhp :ashamed: In my rush to post up I took a pic off the dyno before adjustment.
Never mind eh!
So onwards, and the dyno plots today are all comparative on setting 2 and the run today was on OEM intake and full turbo-back exhaust, whereas stage 1 was done with just NGK plugs and setting 2.
As you can see from the photo below there is a decent difference between stage 1 and stage 2.
Re-adjusted for my error.....
Stock to stage 1 gave an increase of 27.8bhp and 44.7lbft
Stage 1 to stage 2 gave an increase of 14bhp and 9.5lbft
Stock to stage 2 gives an increase of 41.8bhp and 54.2lbft = an increase of 23.4% in power and 30.4% in torque.
As you can see from the graphs it is a different beast to drive now, with stage 2 torque being higher than stock peak torque all the way from 2100rpm to 6000rpm :evilgrin:
Also stage 2 power is greater than peak stock power all the way from 4100rpm to letting off at the pedal on the dyno at 6500rpm. :happy2:
The downside is I need an intercooler and intake for sure as the car gets heatsoaked after just a few dyno runs.
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That's a tasty increase for Stage 2 John. Especially on a 1.4, 180bhp car.. :happy2:
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Great results, John :happy2:
Intake + clloer should hopefully see another 10hp :evilgrin:
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is it the same 1.4 TSI turbo charged and compressor engine as in golf but uptuned to 180 bhp??
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is it the same 1.4 TSI turbo charged and compressor engine as in golf but uptuned to 180 bhp??
I believe so. :happy2:
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Great results, John :happy2:
Intake + cooler should hopefully see another 10hp :evilgrin:
I'll be glad to get around 230-240bhp with the intake and cooler. Water/meth should hopefully keep things cool and give a little more too and should enable me to run stage 2, setting 3. :evilgrin:
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is it the same 1.4 TSI turbo charged and compressor engine as in golf but uptuned to 180 bhp??
I believe so. :happy2:
different turbo I think
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Very nice results there John, heat soak doesn't look to bad on yours TBH, or was that with a good cool down period between runs.
Great results, John :happy2:
Intake + cooler should hopefully see another 10hp :evilgrin:
I'll be glad to get around 230-240bhp with the intake and cooler. Water/meth should hopefully keep things cool and give a little more too and should enable me to run stage 2, setting 3. :evilgrin:
I reckon you could get 230-240hp once you get your water meth on, but i cant see huge gains with the intercooler on yours as its not dipping that bad. Mine drops down quite bad in comparison.
im jealous now though lol. Ive bit the bullet and im going for the full exhaust system now, instead of just staying with the standard downpipe with first cat removed.
Ive just ordered the plugs for mine yesterday. Ill show you the pics when i get my std ones out, they dont look good :scared: Guy on SCN just had his engine go bang because the electrode off the bottom of his spark plug came off and went into his engine, guess it was pretty hot :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Steve Jr gave the car a good rest between runs. :happy2:
I've seen a few scary threads about the 1.4TSI's but hopefully the newer engines are okay :smiley:
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Steve Jr gave the car a good rest between runs. :happy2:
I've seen a few scary threads about the 1.4TSI's but hopefully the newer engines are okay :smiley:
The new project looks great, I feel as though I know you through Junior as he often talks about you, good to see his workshop is as tidy as ever - thank God he is superb on the spanners and grey matter :happy2:
The brakes look awesome, theres an event at Oulton Park this friday if you are off be good to see you there :wink:
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What event is that Spin? I'm off this week so it would be doable. :party:
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What event is that Spin? I'm off this week so it would be doable. :party:
www.trackaction-online.co.uk
I've signed on as part of the BMW car club although I no longer have a suitable BMW :)
Give them a call and I'm confident they will squeeze you in if fully booked, Elaborate the truth slightly and say you heard about the event through a friend of Nick Wrights (he's the BMW organiser).
Be good to see you there, I'll wear a red rose in my lapel so you can recognise me :driver:
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Cheers Spin, but I now have door fitters coming on Friday :sad1:
Hmmm wonder if I can get them to come on Saturday :evilgrin:
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A quick update....
Fitted the Lightweight race battery today
Standard battery and fittings were weighed out at 15.25kg
Lightweight race battery and fittings weighed in at 7.3kg
A saving of almost 8kg. :happy2:
Looks like it was meant to fit there too!
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Looks great! Wish my Ibiza cupra battery was there! Haha I bought a earlier build. :(
How long have you got before it goes flat?
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Looks great! Wish my Ibiza cupra battery was there! Haha I bought a earlier build. :(
How long have you got before it goes flat?
It shouldn't go flat unless you don't use it for an extended period. I have a trickle charger for anything over 5 days if I'm not using it, but as it is my daily it shouldn't be an issue. The more significant thing is to remember not to leave your lights on or play music for extended periods with the engine off. :happy2:
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Cheers Spin, but I now have door fitters coming on Friday :sad1:
Hmmm wonder if I can get them to come on Saturday :evilgrin:
I'll buy you a brew :happy2:
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Okay, well I bought some of the new gloss carbon fibre 3M wrap (I think it looks more like carbon fibre than the Dinoc matt stuff personally) and thought I'd try it out on the front badge of the Polo.
Whaddya think?
Before...
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After...
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Closer...
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Okay, well I bought some of the new gloss carbon fibre 3M wrap (I think it looks more like carbon fibre than the Dinoc matt stuff personally) and thought I'd try it out on the front badge of the Polo.
Whaddya think?
Closer...
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That looks fantastic - looks like the real thing :notworthy:
Where did you get it from?!
Great car btw :happy2:
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Sorry Hurdy ETTO, and i just can't find anything good about that. Does the same to me as a Coke Light; If it's light it ain't a coke, so call it something else. If it ain't Carbon then it's just imitation and nothing else :wink:
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Good effort, looks ace. :happy2: :congrats:
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i like it John :happy2: , but even better , it looks like that badge could be removed :wink:
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Okay, well I bought some of the new gloss carbon fibre 3M wrap (I think it looks more like carbon fibre than the Dinoc matt stuff personally) and thought I'd try it out on the front badge of the Polo.
Whaddya think?
Closer...
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That looks fantastic - looks like the real thing :notworthy:
Where did you get it from?!
Great car btw :happy2:
From this place. :smiley:
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Sorry Hurdy ETTO, and i just can't find anything good about that. Does the same to me as a Coke Light; If it's light it ain't a coke, so call it something else. If it ain't Carbon then it's just imitation and nothing else :wink:
Never mind Jake, not everyone likes the same things. I put it on for something different rather than just paint it gloss black as the vinyl won't crack off with stone strikes ( a good thing for when I'm on track :wink:)
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you don't hand around john, liking the badges, was toying with some cf when the new arrival lands :happy2:
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wow that badge looks the business
im deffo goingg to purchase me acouple sheets of that vinyl
keep up the good work :happy2:
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Quick 0-60mph video on a flat, damp uneven surface. Short shifted into 2nd and only used 5k rpm to avoid wheelspin on the damp surface. Video is only 6 seconds long and I stopwatched the video 0-60 as 5.6-5.7 seconds. With a dry even surface I reckon a sub 5 second 0-60mph dash could be achieved. Not bad for a little car. Enjoy
http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/?action=view¤t=0to60mph-1.mp4
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I truly believe a sub 5 second 0-60 is achievable on these without going to crazy. As said before i was consistently hitting around 5.6seconds at Inters, which not only is a crap surface but it was damp(ish) and i was on standard Continental 2, 205/40 width tyres which arent exactly designed for 0-60 sprinting. Sticky tyres and full use of 3rd gear and its a done deal i think....
Ibizaracebreak has already managed a sub 5 sprint with stage 1 although his was stripped out big style with R888s
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Not seen vid. What's the quarter mile time like at the mo?
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Not seen vid. What's the quarter mile time like at the mo?
Stage 2 1.4TSI's are doing 13.4 to 14 seconds at the qtr mile depending on supporting hardware (tyres, weight reduction, intakes etc). Some stage 1 cars are still doing under 14 seconds too. I reckon I can get it down even further. :wink: (water/meth and hybrid turbo should do it! :evilgrin:)
Next year should prove interesting to see what time I get when I take it around the 'ring. :driver: if I don't break it first!!!! :signLOL:
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Next year should prove interesting to see what time I get when I take it around the 'ring. :driver: if I don't break it first!!!! :signLOL:
Just remember your wheels bolts. :signLOL:
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Next year should prove interesting to see what time I get when I take it around the 'ring. :driver: if I don't break it first!!!! :signLOL:
Just remember your wheels bolts. :signLOL:
I have a full spare set :signLOL:
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Back to some serious stuff :evilgrin:
I knew I wouldn't be able to resist for too long. Did some deeper investigation today about a hybrid turbo. New OEM turbo is £1100 +VAT and then looking like another £XXX for hybridising and then £XXX for custom software.
£XXX means basically I don't know how much yet.
With the rest of the planned hardware mods (intercooler, intake and water/meth) I'm looking at somewhere between 270bhp and 300bhp, but where between those figure is anyones guess :rolleye:
To put this into perspective 270bhp on a 1.4 is the equivalent of 385bhp on a 2.0 litre car and 300bhp on a 1.4 is the equivalent of 428bhp on a 2 litre car - without internals!!!!
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you it wouldn't take you long to go down this path John :happy2:
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Rocket Polo :drool:
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John did you say carbon bonnet, carbon tailgate & Dymags?
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John did you say carbon bonnet, carbon tailgate & Dymags?
:drool:
....and lexan windows, carbon front wings, Porsche Carrera GT carbon bucket seats = sub 1000kg = dream spec :jumping:
It would go over my budget a bit though :signLOL:
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Be lucky to get Dymags - they went bust :sad1:
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Be lucky to get Dymags - they went bust :sad1:
Not suprised, who could afford them! lol. I had a quote and was so close to going for it new year 2009. Wouldnt have dared use them though so £3600 not wisely spent!
D you still have the performance box John?
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Be lucky to get Dymags - they went bust :sad1:
Can still get them new Dom :wink: A company in the USA bought the rights I believe. :happy2:
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Do you still have the performance box John?
No, but Steve Jr has one at Statllers I can use. :smiley:
Why?
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Do you still have the performance box John?
No, but Steve Jr has one at Statllers I can use. :smiley:
Why?
You used it a lot to log gains after mods on the eddy, just curious :wink:
Yanks bought dymag and still under going international re structuring but jar started doing bike wheels it seems. PR1.2 it is lol.
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Do you still have the performance box John?
No, but Steve Jr has one at Statllers I can use. :smiley:
Why?
You used it a lot to log gains after mods on the eddy, just curious :wink:
Yanks bought dymag and still under going international re structuring but jar started doing bike wheels it seems. PR1.2 it is lol.
I'll try and get some more accurate runs when the weather dries up a little. :driver:
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Do you still have the performance box John?
No, but Steve Jr has one at Statllers I can use. :smiley:
Why?
You used it a lot to log gains after mods on the eddy, just curious :wink:
Yanks bought dymag and still under going international re structuring but jar started doing bike wheels it seems. PR1.2 it is lol.
I'll try and get some more accurate runs when the weather dries up a little. :driver:
And stay off them local hills this time John.. :signLOL:
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Snake pass ftw
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And stay off them local hills this time John.. :signLOL:
Plenty of hills to choose from - it is harder to find flat areas here :sad1:
Snake pass ftw
Every time Mike. :driver:
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Another little mod for today...
Wrapped the two front grey plastic sections with the carbon wrap to see what they look like. Not bad actually. Livens the front end up too. :happy2:
OEM
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Wrapped
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OEM
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Wrapped
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Close up on the car
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looks good John--need a photo of all the front end of the car
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looks good John--need a photo of all the front end of the car
I took one, but the daylight has gone and the flash just makes it look black from a distance (think it is the reflection off the front reg plate that darkens the rest of the pic). I'll do one tomorrow in the day. :happy2:
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This is what I mean about the front end pic. You CAN see it but it is very subtle.
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Close up on same pic
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Photoshopped to get it lighter and delete the reg plate.
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Looks great John, nice little touch. I could never decide on the silver carbon but the subtle touches on the Polo look ace :smiley:
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Cheers Mike. :smiley:
You'll soon be over in Blighty, so come over and talk shop sometime. :happy2:
Should give you a good excuse for a blast over in your red rocket.
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Cheers Mike. :smiley:
You'll soon be over in Blighty, so come over and talk shop sometime. :happy2:
Should give you a good excuse for a blast over in your red rocket.
Will do :happy2:
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Looking very aggressive! CF touch is nice and subtle. :happy2:
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John, you need to clean the lens on your camera mate :happy2:
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Does it do 47 mpg?
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Driven carefully up the maidstone to nottingham I managed 51mpg. (It did include a 20 mile stretch of 50mph contraflow on the m1 though)?
Even driven hard they don't drop that low. A 50 mile return journey from leicester to rockingham, and a whole day on track and i was mid 20'smpg iirc. Awesome economy for the performance
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Yep, on the Polo GTI's 10 gallon tank I have had 440 miles out of it. :happy2: The hills around here knock the mileage down though! :sad1:
But it does make it fun driving on them :evilgrin: :driver:
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Shaping up really nicely, John :happy2:
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Shaping up really nicely, John :happy2:
Cheers Robin. :smiley:
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Okay, a couple of pics..
1st one is a daylight pic of how the car looks now.
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2nd one is the look I'm going for on the front end - suitably mean and moody look :scared:
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Does look very mean without the plate on :evilgrin:
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No plates for winners :) Shame I'll have to put it back on in England lol :(
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Red front or Black front?
Original red
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Black
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Personally I like the Black CF front :happy2:
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Black for me. :drool:
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I prefer the black but only if you keep the chrome GTI badge (which I suppose could be red).
I still wanna enjoy a full frontal pic, John [but don't tell Hedge].
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You're OK Robin he's all yours. :love: :booty:
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I did take a "full frontal" Robin :laugh: , but on the screen it was blurry and now it is sodding dark again :fighting:
Tomorrow Robin - promise :love:
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Wrap the badge too I would
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Red badge. :party:
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defo the black mean stealth looking approach :happy2:
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Got to be the red mate :)
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Red shows it's a GTI. Black says "move along, nothing to see here" before you floor it past them! :driver:
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Red shows it's a GTI. Black says "move along, nothing to see here" before you floor it past them! :driver:
Stealth sleeper FTW :happy2:
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black for me also
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sliding plate flipper for the win :happy2:
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If your gonna do it, do the lot including the GTi badge otherwise it will look a little odd. Stealth FTW
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Black/carbon look is mint! Stealth! ;)
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Another mod completed....
RNS510 with Bluetooth. Looks like it was designed for the Polo GTI Fascia as well as the black gloss surround matches perfectly. Works perfectly with the MFSW and Park reverse sensors. Also has the speed camera locations and speed limits as POI's on screen. Lovely bit of kit. :love:
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Oem+ :happy2: :happy2:
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nice :happy2:
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How much for the 510 Hurdy ? Did u have the parking sensors or u installed them afterwards ? If you order the car without them and want to install them later, do you need another rear bumper or you just have to cut the holes into the existing one ?
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How much for the 510 Hurdy ? Did u have the parking sensors or u installed them afterwards ? If you order the car without them and want to install them later, do you need another rear bumper or you just have to cut the holes into the existing one ?
Under a grand all-in. That included the RNS510, bluetooth module, latest maps and firmware and GPS antenna. The parking sensors were a factory fit option that I took so I couldn't tell you if the bumper is different with the sensors. SteveP may know through ETKA :happy2:
I noticed after that there is also group buy happening on the Golfgti forum if you are interested.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=211445.0
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Thanks. The car must arrive first So maybe next year !
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Looking the dogs dangley's John, thank you for the very nice engine chorus when you went :happy2: Sounds amazing
Darren
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The latest LED version John? Looks tasty :drool:
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Looking the dogs dangley's John, thank you for the very nice engine chorus when you went :happy2: Sounds amazing
Darren
Yeah, cheers Darren, the setup is great and it is even easier to use than I thought it would be. The Toyota nav I had was like operating the space shuttle. :surprised:
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Looking very stealthy Hurdy. Going to have to get myself back into a VW, drive loads of VAG at work then have to drive home in my poxy Vauxhall :ashamed:
Can you not wrap the lip under the honeycomb grill to tie the fog surrounds together?
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Looking very stealthy Hurdy. Going to have to get myself back into a VW, drive loads of VAG at work then have to drive home in my poxy Vauxhall :ashamed:
Can you not wrap the lip under the honeycomb grill to tie the fog surrounds together?
You know you want to. :wink:
I've taken the cf wrap off the fog surrounds as water was getting under the wrap making it bubble. :sick:
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Popped over to Awesome GTI today for UKMKIV's dyno day. Power about right, but torque a little higher than expected.
225bhp (210whp) and 274lbft - from just a remap and an exhaust!
That is basically the equivalent specific output of 320bhp and 390lbft form a 2 litre car.
225bhp is 195bhp/ton on my car. 8)
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That RNS510 kit looks superbly functional, John. It's taken VW long enough to get those units right!
Liking your new sig! :laugh:
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That RNS510 kit looks superbly functional, John. It's taken VW long enough to get those units right!
Liking your new sig! :laugh:
Yep, I love the new head unit. Very OEM+ and user friendly.
New sig should get people talking :evilgrin:
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Awesome's rollers are renowned for giving hight torqur figures, John..
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Awesome's rollers are renowned for giving hight torqur figures, John..
Yeah, I realistically think that it is somewhere between 250 and 260lbft.
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Jasons boc made 220lbft on jkms with identical mode and settings to yours.
. That would also correlate with your stadtlers printout wouldn't it?
My dyno printouts (bapro/dynodynamics) are between 230lbft and 260lbft, but i ththink the 230lbft is more realistic
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A couple of arty shots I took on the way over to the comedy dyno day :laugh:
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Oh WOW John :drool:
Need to change pants now :ashamed:
Perfection mate.... Love the Black stealth Evil Hard as Nails look :evilgrin:
Edited to say.... Photos are top class too mate :congrats:
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Looks awesome John
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Cheers :happy2:. I wasn't sure if I'd over photoshopped it with the first one by removing the colour.
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Quality pics of the stealth assassin John 8)
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Be afraid. Be very afraid. :evilgrin:
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Darth Vader's daily. :laugh:
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brilliant photo,s John :happy2:
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Awesome's rollers are renowned for giving hight torqur figures, John..
It's the ATW figures (or transmission loss %) that make me laugh with Awesome's figures..
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That last shot is awesome, John :congrats: :happy2:
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Cheers :happy2:. I wasn't sure if I'd over photoshopped it with the first one by removing the colour.
....I judged it as a black n white shot rather than a P'shopped colour one and love it.
But the second shot is faultlessly stunning! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
I think you've done absolutely right to leave the 'GTI' badge silver.
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Cheers Robin, means a lot that :happy2:
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Another mod hit the car today. Polo GTI ITG intake. The first production one after SteveP's development one.
Makes a nice throaty sound without being too intrusive. Should be on the dyno again on Thursday to see what difference it makes.
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About time they started producing these so you can keep the engine cover on!
Looks good John! :happy2:
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Car is looking great, lovin the stealth and ITG, wish they would do one for Ed30 like that so you could keep engine cover on :happy2:
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^ Why do ITG always let down the looks of their products in some way? Surely that wired-type hose could have been silicone like the rest of this kit.
On the Mk5 Golf GTI they let it down with those crude blocks of foam which were in fact an afterthought. Surely they didn't run out of development budget again!
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Nothing to do with development budget restrictions, just a case of using the best material for the job, this part of the kit needs more flex / bending than silicon will allow, so flexible ducting was used.
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John goes to shows to queue for the 1/4 mile not lift his bonnet up so it doesn't matter.
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John goes to shows to queue for the 1/4 mile not lift his bonnet up so it doesn't matter.
....A component not being on frequent show is a lame excuse for poor design - Not poor functional design but as an entity. But I understand the stated need for flex. I'm just not convinced that the ITG team care enough about the aesthetics of engineering. Still, it doesn't really matter - Just my opinion.
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I understand what you mean Robin, however like Steve says, there is a lot of flex in that part of the engine and so silicone hosing wouldn't do as it would stretch and pop off one of the clips somewhere along the pipework. A sliding connector would work well and be more aesthetically pleasing, but would cost quite a bit to develop and manufacture. This means that as a cost effective method it was the best solution. :smiley:
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John goes to shows to queue for the 1/4 mile not lift his bonnet up so it doesn't matter.
....A component not being on frequent show is a lame excuse for poor design - Not poor functional design but as an entity. But I understand the stated need for flex. I'm just not convinced that the ITG team care enough about the aesthetics of engineering. Still, it doesn't really matter - Just my opinion.
If you thought ITG's looked bad, look at Forge's kit for the Seat Bocanegra with the same engine!!!!
http://forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=190105&product=FMINDBOC
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John goes to shows to queue for the 1/4 mile not lift his bonnet up so it doesn't matter.
....A component not being on frequent show is a lame excuse for poor design - Not poor functional design but as an entity. But I understand the stated need for flex. I'm just not convinced that the ITG team care enough about the aesthetics of engineering. Still, it doesn't really matter - Just my opinion.
If you thought ITG's looked bad, look at Forge's kit for the Seat Bocanegra with the same engine!!!!
http://forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=190105&product=FMINDBOC
That's hilarious
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I saw the Forge one on Sy's Homomobile at JKM and it is fookin awful. :sick:
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Looks it was designed by Ray Charles.
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^^^^
Agreed, that Forge one looks even worse! Much worse! :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
I suppose that as I've spent my whole life involved in various design fields (including some industrial design), I am hardwired into believing that good design should not only function efficiently and as intended but should also look good. As an example, Porsche products integrate industrial design and aesthetics particularly well. It's always part of a designer's psyche to be analytical and critical.
Relating more to this thread, John (Hurdy) has always consciously integrated form with function to the best of his ability and it's very much part of what modding cars is about.
Overall, I'm loving what I'm seeing you do to this project, John :happy2:
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Could you not have made a system yourself? I would have bought a bmc cda air box and just bought a silicone hose off the net and the air hose is cheap too,unless you got yours for nothing then that answers that :smiley:
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I saw the Forge one on Sy's Homomobile at JKM and it is fookin awful. :sick:
And im not convinced its made any gains either.
At least ITG have knowledge of filtration and develop everything themselves. All forge do, is buy filters from other companies and fit some pipes onto them. In the case of the twintake and the 1.4TSI its just a BMC carbon filter with some fancy looking pipework.
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Aren't they SILLY expensive?
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Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Aren't they SILLY expensive?
....That's never stopped John before.
Life is not a rehearsal and you can't take it with you. IF you've got it available, spend and enjoy it.
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Aren't they SILLY expensive?
Yep, still haven't made my mind up on them yet. :innocent:
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Really like this polo :) Loving the 510 headunit. As said it looks like it was made for a polo with the gloss surround :happy2: :happy2:
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^^^ Cheers Stuart :smiley:
Okay, this was a quick video in the garage and as it is parked up you only get revs to 4k, so imagine 7k :evilgrin: Turn up the sound and enjoy.
http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/?action=view¤t=PoloGTIMilltekexhaustsound.mp4
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Sounds :evilgrin:
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Ohhh boy that sounds delightful :signLOL: You need to get a video from a standing start driving away and let us hear it :evilgrin:
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Ohhh boy that sounds delightful :signLOL: You need to get a video from a standing start driving away and let us hear it :evilgrin:
That will be the next step. :happy2:
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Ohhh boy that sounds delightful :signLOL: You need to get a video from a standing start driving away and let us hear it :evilgrin:
That will be the next step. :happy2:
Good :drool: :drool:
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Definitely no NOS this time, but i may still get tempted by a Snow Performance Water/methanol kit.
Also looking at these as the OEM paddles are too small.
http://www.tidstyling.com/shop/step1.php?number=734
Aren't they SILLY expensive?
Yes, but they are sooo nice products :drool:
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Looks and sounds great! :drool:
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Just a mini mod for today. Changed the rear badge for a red GTI version. :smiley:
Front badge will get the same treatment when it arrives.
Arrives in a template so you can't get the individual letters misaligned, which is a nice touch by the maker.
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Fitted.
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:happy2:
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
Finally someone bites :laugh: :popcornsoda:
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
Thought provoking and round a handling track I reckon it would be faster than my ED30. Definitely will be once finished! :wink:
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
Thought provoking and round a handling track I reckon it would be faster than my ED30. Definitely will be once finished! :wink:
Took 380hp Golf to beat a measely 220hp Polo on track. http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf (http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf)
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
Finally someone bites :laugh: :popcornsoda:
Still won't beat a meg trophy :signLOL:
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
Finally someone bites :laugh: :popcornsoda:
Still won't beat a meg trophy :signLOL:
What about a TT-RS? :wink:
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:signLOL:
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
Finally someone bites :laugh: :popcornsoda:
Still won't beat a meg trophy :signLOL:
:signLOL:
Or will it :innocent:
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Had the car on the dyno at Statllers again today. The first dyno with the ITG intake on. Impressive is the key word here for the ITG.
The only mod between this and my last dyno run at Statllers and today's is the ITG
Stock airbox/filter - 220.5bhp and 232.5 lbft
ITG intake - 236.0bhp and 267.9lbft which is an increase of 15.5bhp and 34.4lbft
Getting there :evilgrin:
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LOL at myself :laugh:
Just worked out that I would have got 309lbft of torque at Awesome GTI dyno day with the ITG fitted going by the increase over the stock airbox/filter :signLOL:
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Had the car on the dyno at Statllers again today. The first dyno with the ITG intake on. Impressive is the key word here for the ITG.
The only mod between this and my last dyno run at Statllers and today's is the ITG
Stock airbox/filter - 220.5bhp and 232.5 lbft
ITG intake - 236.0bhp and 267.9lbft which is an increase of 15.5bhp and 34.4lbft
Getting there :evilgrin:
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very nice john. :party: you need to get on a 1/4 mile now whilst its still dry
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No RWYB until the New Year at Satan Pod. :smiley:
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:love:
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
Thought provoking and round a handling track I reckon it would be faster than my ED30. Definitely will be once finished! :wink:
Took 380hp Golf to beat a measely 220hp Polo on track. http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf (http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf)
Well yeah obviously as the Golf is heavier so would need more power, it also has a 7 year old ish chassis. Comparing a 220hp car to a 380hp car sounds impressive until you look at power to weight then you see why. Not quite so measely when you think its making that power from a 1.4 litre engine is it Sy. If it was 2.0ltr then yeah you could call it measely.
You down at statllers on Saturday John should be there to pick up my car, wouldnt mind having a ganda at the litttle go kart :wink:
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Unfortunately I'm working. :sad1:
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Shaping up now quite nicely John, feels like a proper little weapon, can't wait for the next batch of upgrades! :scared: :evilgrin:
Well yeah obviously as the Golf is heavier so would need more power, it also has a 7 year old ish chassis. Comparing a 220hp car to a 380hp car sounds impressive until you look at power to weight then you see why. Not quite so measely when you think its making that power from a 1.4 litre engine is it Sy. If it was 2.0ltr then yeah you could call it measely.
You down at statllers on Saturday John should be there to pick up my car, wouldnt mind having a ganda at the litttle go kart :wink:
Oh the black Leon was yours was it? Looked nice :happy2:
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Cheers Luke :happy2:
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What's with the sig :popcornsoda:
Thought provoking and round a handling track I reckon it would be faster than my ED30. Definitely will be once finished! :wink:
Took 380hp Golf to beat a measely 220hp Polo on track. http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf (http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf)
How heavy is the polo cos I doubt the polo has the advantage even on bhp per tonne tbh
Well yeah obviously as the Golf is heavier so would need more power, it also has a 7 year old ish chassis. Comparing a 220hp car to a 380hp car sounds impressive until you look at power to weight then you see why. Not quite so measely when you think its making that power from a 1.4 litre engine is it Sy. If it was 2.0ltr then yeah you could call it measely.
You down at statllers on Saturday John should be there to pick up my car, wouldnt mind having a ganda at the litttle go kart :wink:
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That was meant to say that I don't know what the polo weighs but I doubt that at 220 bhp it has a bigger bhp per tonne that a 380 bhp golf
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ITG certainly know how to make a good filter and intake and great figures, if their stuff is good enough for Mr Vettel and Redbull and Mr Neal at Honda Racing its good enough for me :happy2:
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That was meant to say that I don't know what the polo weighs but I doubt that at 220 bhp it has a bigger bhp per tonne that a 380 bhp golf
1189kg for the APR Polo = 185bhp/ton
1476kg for the APR Golf = 257bhp/ton
BUT, the Polo was able to maintain more speed through corners than the Golf and managed to beat the Polo by 1 second flat.
Mine now weighs in at 1143kg with just under half a tank of fuel and has at least 236bhp, so 206.5bhp/ton. :happy2:
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Cheers Luke :happy2:
Oh btw was that you who was down there a couple of weeks back after you'd had a disagreement with a bus? Nevermind if it wasn't, they had a black Leon too :wink:
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Cheers Luke :happy2:
Oh btw was that you who was down there a couple of weeks back after you'd had a disagreement with a bus? Nevermind if it wasn't, they had a black Leon too :wink:
No mate wasnt me :smiley:
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Good to meet you today Rob :smiley:
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1st I've seen of yours Rob looks :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
So mr Hurditch where are these seats :party:
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Good to meet you too John :drinking:
Drive home car felt nice and solid again after its annual stage 2+ wear and tear fixes :love:
Been thinking of some seats for a while now Recaro pole positions by any chance???
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Thinking of some Sparco's actually. Just off to look for a kinky :happy2:
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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Seats_Accessories/Seats/Sparco_Evo_Fibreglass_Seat/1761/1435
Still drwn to the Tillet seats though!
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I am very impressed with my Sparco evo's :happy2:
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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Seats_Accessories/Seats/Sparco_Evo_Fibreglass_Seat/1761/1435
Still drwn to the Tillet seats though!
B3.5 1.8Kg :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Seats_Accessories/Seats/Sparco_Evo_Fibreglass_Seat/1761/1435
Still drwn to the Tillet seats though!
B3.5 1.8Kg :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Would be pretty uncomfortable though Mike although that is fooooking lightweight :evilgrin:
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Is the polo actually wider than the golf? Looks like it in the pictures
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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Seats_Accessories/Seats/Sparco_Evo_Fibreglass_Seat/1761/1435
Still drwn to the Tillet seats though!
B3.5 1.8Kg :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Would be pretty uncomfortable though Mike although that is fooooking lightweight :evilgrin:
I could pretend to be comfy @ 1.8Kg :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Seats_Accessories/Seats/Sparco_Evo_Fibreglass_Seat/1761/1435
Still drwn to the Tillet seats though!
B3.5 1.8Kg :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Would be pretty uncomfortable though Mike although that is fooooking lightweight :evilgrin:
I could pretend to be comfy @ 1.8Kg :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Me too! :jumping:
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I am very impressed with my Sparco evo's :happy2:
I knew I'd seen them somewhere before. :happy2:
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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Seats_Accessories/Seats/Sparco_Evo_Fibreglass_Seat/1761/1435
Still drwn to the Tillet seats though!
B3.5 1.8Kg :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Do you know what the mounting options are John?
Would be pretty uncomfortable though Mike although that is fooooking lightweight :evilgrin:
I could pretend to be comfy @ 1.8Kg :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Me too! :jumping:
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Is the polo actually wider than the golf? Looks like it in the pictures
Nope, definitely narrower. :smiley:
Golf MKV ED30 = 1759mm excluding mirrors.
Polo GTI = 1682mm excluding mirrors.
:smiley:
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Do you know what the mounting options are John?
For the Tillett seats?
Either side mount or sliding runners - based on the T4 seat.
or the Sparco Evo seats?
The seat info says side mount, but the sidemounts can fit on Sparco's own runners. SteveP would be the best person to ask for this. :happy2:
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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Seats_Accessories/Seats/Sparco_Evo_Fibreglass_Seat/1761/1435
Still drwn to the Tillet seats though!
B3.5 1.8Kg :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Would be pretty uncomfortable though Mike although that is fooooking lightweight :evilgrin:
I could pretend to be comfy @ 1.8Kg :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
There so light you could afford to bring a cushion obviously not too heavy. There pretty cheap too hmmm impulse buying is not good for the wallet ive already pretty much bought an rns 510 today :grin:
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What're your thoughts John? :party: If the Tillet will fit in the Leon and not look silly Im up for a GB (cough, Rob :evilgrin:) Like wise with the Sparcos
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Do you know what the mounting options are John?
For the Tillett seats?
Either side mount or sliding runners - based on the T4 seat.
or the Sparco Evo seats?
The seat info says side mount, but the sidemounts can fit on Sparco's own runners. SteveP would be the best person to ask for this. :happy2:
1.8Kg is insane. Replacing the fronts with them would save you around 45-50kg of weight :surprised: but cost you a few grand in chiropractor corrective works :laugh:
Whats the weight of the sparcos compared to stock seats.
I thuink seats is a step to far for me, its still the daily runner for us.
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What're your thoughts John? :party: If the Tillet will fit in the Leon and not look silly Im up for a GB (cough, Rob :evilgrin:) Like wise with the Sparcos
well I'm no lightweight, so I doubt if I'd fit in the Tillett seats. The Evo ones can be had in "more adequate" sizes and all in would weigh approx 12kg including the mounts.
The Tillett seats may only be 1.8kg, but you will still have to add a few kilo's for mounting kits. Still a great saving over stock though. :smiley:
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The Tillett seats may only be 1.8kg, but you will still have to add a few kilo's for mounting kits. Still a great saving over stock though. :smiley:
Velcro all the way
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Are the seats in the Polo as heavy as they were in the Eddy? I have 30Kgs in mind for the Cupra seats?
The Tillett seats may only be 1.8kg, but you will still have to add a few kilo's for mounting kits. Still a great saving over stock though. :smiley:
Velcro all the way
Black tape
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Are the seats in the Polo as heavy as they were in the Eddy? I have 30Kgs in mind for the Cupra seats?
The Tillett seats may only be 1.8kg, but you will still have to add a few kilo's for mounting kits. Still a great saving over stock though. :smiley:
Velcro all the way
Black tape
Should have weighed mine when i had them out :stupid:
Id go with around 25kg
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So, it is the return of the Performance box. :evilgrin:
0-60mph runs on a flat surface and done each way. Surface was dry, but with some mud in parts. Tyres were normal road tyres (not semi slicks), the car had it's full interior minus the spare (aerosol onboard!) and a full tank of fuel. Runs were done in sport mode with the traction control off.
0-60mph in 5.1 second both ways :driver:
Here is a pic of the performance box screen.
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Told you mate. sub 5 seconds easily with semi slicks and sticky track.
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And remember I only managed a 4.4 with the ED 30 on nitrous and R888's at 440bhp!
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And remember I only managed a 4.4 with the ED 30 on nitrous and R888's at 440bhp!
that was stripped interior and launch control as well iirc
Dare i say it, the 440Hp might have managed a 30mph higher terminal though :grin:
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And remember I only managed a 4.4 with the ED 30 on nitrous and R888's at 440bhp!
that was stripped interior and launch control as well iirc
Dare i say it, the 440Hp might have managed a 30mph higher terminal though :grin:
True :grin:
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And remember I only managed a 4.4 with the ED 30 on nitrous and R888's at 440bhp!
that was stripped interior and launch control as well iirc
Dare i say it, the 440Hp might have managed a 30mph higher terminal though :grin:
True :grin:
But, this is why i love these cars. How often can you use all that extra power. These cars perform excellent where it really matters which is below 100mph. big power cars perform above that, but thats not exactly usable power really.
Annoying thing with my car (1240kg) is, even if i loose 100Kg, im only down to the starting weight of the Polo GTI. Plus i have the aerodynamics of a wall with my car. Im fighting a loosing battle here. think i need a 100Shot of nitrous,
or VTEC Yo
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Have you got the Pace intercooler on yet? I bet that adds a few kg?
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Picking it up on saturday. Id imagine its a few kg heavier, especially as the radiator is also being made larger. The benefits far outweigh the negatives though.
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Picking it up on saturday. Id imagine its a few kg heavier, especially as the radiator is also being made larger. The benefits far outweigh the negatives though.
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Sy reminded me that I need to set a few targets. :happy2:
I'm looking for 0-60mph in under 5 seconds.
0-100mph in under 13.5 seconds and a sub 14 second 1/4 mile.
These times hopefully should be achievable with the mods I already have and would put the car on par with some modded ED30 times.
Also.....I think a sub 8 min 30 second B to G of the Nurburgring should be achievable too. :drinking:
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Also.....I think a sub 8 min 30 second B to G of the Nurburgring should be achievable too. :drinking:
i can never hook up a perfect lap there though, its so frustrating, there are corners there that i just couldnt get through as well as i wanted to, but because the tracks so bloody big you dont get to practice on them enough to perfect them.
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Also.....I think a sub 8 min 30 second B to G of the Nurburgring should be achievable too. :drinking:
i can never hook up a perfect lap there though, its so frustrating, there are corners there that i just couldnt get through as well as i wanted to, but because the tracks so bloody big you dont get to practice on them enough to perfect them.
Like playing Golf then :laugh:
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Whilst bored I knocked up some comparison graphs and separated torque from power. These were all done on the same dyno. The overall area under the graph is the important thing and shows how the power/torque delivery changes as the tuning progresses.
POWER
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TORQUE
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The difference on power and torque delivery from stock to mapped is phenomenal, at some points the difference between mapped and stock is 70bhp on power and at other points up to 150lbft more on torque
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What's with the weird top end on the ITG version ? Is the Revo software official yet ? There's nothing on the website so I suppoaed they are still testing it ?
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The dyno operator let off the gas earlier as he said it hit peak power at 5.5k. for comparison I kept the graph at 6.5k as the stage 1 didn't make peak power till 6.4k. Otherwise I think the power line with the ITG would have tailed off gentler. :smiley:
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Another performance box update. Done with the first half on the flat and then a kink to a slightly uphill second half. Brave pill swallowed, dry start with damp patches. Had to brake just before the 1/4 mile mark, otherwise I would have run out of available surface.
0-100mph with another consistent 0-60mph
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1/4 mile time - this was only just achieved and I was braking before the end of it. Remember this wasn't a bang straight run and the whole of the second half was uphill. If I had the room then I reckon probably a 102mph terminal would have been about right and if it had all been straight and flat, who knows?
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So, I guess I need to adjust my targets a little!!
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Sy reminded me that I need to set a few targets. :happy2:
I'm looking for 0-60mph in under 5 seconds.
0-100mph in under 13.5 seconds and a sub 14 second 1/4 mile.
These times hopefully should be achievable with the mods I already have and would put the car on par with some modded ED30 times.
Also.....I think a sub 8 min 30 second B to G of the Nurburgring should be achievable too. :drinking:
Need a few more targets already .......
0-60mph - target still under 5 seconds
0-100mph - new target is 13 seconds
1/4 mile - new target is 13.6 seconds
:happy2:
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Can't wait to see this Polo John :drool:
Are there any Yorkshire meets planned in December?
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None that I know of apart from a local Sheffield meet that I cannot get to cos I'm working. :sad1:
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Need a few more targets already .......
0-60mph - target still under 5 seconds
0-100mph - new target is 13 seconds
1/4 mile - new target is 13.6 seconds
:happy2:
that would make more sense. terminal of maybe 103-105 would then be achievable.
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Need a few more targets already .......
0-60mph - target still under 5 seconds
0-100mph - new target is 13 seconds
1/4 mile - new target is 13.6 seconds
:happy2:
that would make more sense. terminal of maybe 103-105 would then be achievable.
I reckon you are spot on with those terminals Sy. :happy2:
Makes me wonder if adding more power would just detract from the clean launches I'm currently getting though?
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You 'll end up with traction issues with to much more power, that issue is making me re-consider the hybrid option. Id rather something fast and tractable than a wheel spinning nightmare that needs R888s on to put the power down. Thats an expensive hobby.
Plus if your sat on the line spinning tyres, your times arent going to be that good. Thats one of the largest issues with my car i think. skinny 205 continental contact 2 = 1st gear not usable. HOw are the yoko Parada spec 2's?
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IS that heat soak on the ITG run?
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You 'll end up with traction issues with to much more power, that issue is making me re-consider the hybrid option. Id rather something fast and tractable than a wheel spinning nightmare that needs R888s on to put the power down. Thats an expensive hobby.
Plus if your sat on the line spinning tyres, your times arent going to be that good. Thats one of the largest issues with my car i think. skinny 205 continental contact 2 = 1st gear not usable. HOw are the yoko Parada spec 2's?
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IS that heat soak on the ITG run?
Yoko's are great in the dry, not as good in the damp/wet. R1R's at the nearest size match next year for me.
On that run he let off early and the last two figures are basically drop off figures. :smiley:
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A couple of small mods today
A Mini "Fast" has found its way onto my dash
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And the red GTI badge.
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Is that a proper GTI badge or a knock off?
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Is that a proper GTI badge or a knock off?
It is this one..
http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?cPath=1_597_691&products_id=1168
The only other way to get the red GTI is to buy the set below and exchange the silver GTI from the original badge.
http://www.parts4euro.com/DCShop/product_info.php?cPath=1_35_238&products_id=413
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Looks good John. :happy2:
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So, here is a bit of an explanation of why I ended up with the Polo GTI............ :evilgrin:
The graph below shows my acceleration curve in comparison with four other performance cars. The lower the line on the graph the faster it is.
As you can see it isn't until 130-140kph that even the 395bhp Golf would get to the same speed as my Polo GTI. However, because I would have accelerated faster up to that point my car would be further ahead of the Golf at the point they are at the same speed. The Focus doesn't even get to the same speed as my Polo until 160kph (100mph).
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Thats very impressive!!!
Yours appears to be smoothest too :driver:
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Just one thing though a stage 2+ k04 golf with decent mods should be able to 100mph in around 10secs so what the guy in the 400hp golf is doing is anyones guess :confused:
Im pretty sure you did in your own golf minus NOS and Owen managed it on his performance box in his Cupra and im pretty sure i would of when i ran a 12.9.
Add your own golf to that graph minus NOS as a comparison.
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As above not a chance that polo would have kept up with your golf sorry but no :P
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Without the nitrous my ED30 did this.......
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And the Polo GTI.
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So on the above basis converting to kph, the Polo GTI would still be ahead up to 75kph and then would be torn a new one :laugh:
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Haha yeah something like that :grin:
To be fair that golf does have an APR map maybe thats where hes going wrong.....
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But around a track......who knows? It would depend on how tight the track is and how long the straights are :driver:
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Haha yeah something like that :grin:
To be fair that golf does have an APR map maybe thats where hes going wrong.....
It also has a Garrett GT 2876R turbo instead of a K04, so would be lagger than a stage 2+ED30.
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And probably harder to get off the line.
Add R888's to your polo and you may knock a second off the 0-100mph time and around a track would be interesting......
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And probably harder to get off the line.
Add R888's to your polo and you may knock a second off the 0-100mph time and around a track would be interesting......
The ED30 also had a Quaiffe diff. If I had adore and the R888's the Polo would be hard to catch on most regular sized tracks. Only the Nurburgring and Silverstone would the Polo come second IMO. :innocent:
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Fame at last :driver:
http://www.polodriver.com/
Second item down. :happy2:
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http://www.polodriver.com/polo-2009/tarox-b30-6-550x366-‘motorsport’-performance-braking-kit-for-6r-polo-gti/
(http://www.polodriver.com/polo-2009/tarox-b30-6-550x366-‘motorsport’-performance-braking-kit-for-6r-polo-gti/)
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Fame at last! LOL :smiley:
http://www.polodriver.com/polo-2009/tarox-b30-6-550x366-‘motorsport’-performance-braking-kit-for-6r-polo-gti/
(http://www.polodriver.com/polo-2009/tarox-b30-6-550x366-‘motorsport’-performance-braking-kit-for-6r-polo-gti/)
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Fixed it for you as it was blank. :wink:
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Dunno what happened there? :confused:
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No url tags normally has that result
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Second item down :happy2:
http://www.polodriver.com/
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So on the above basis converting to kph, the Polo GTI would still be ahead up to 75kph and then would be torn a new one :laugh:
All down to the fact that one has 230+bhp through thr front wheels, the other has 360+. So 1 can use 1st gear, the other can't.. :signLOL:
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Wow... those results out of your P-Box are impressive :notworthy:
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Wow... those results out of your P-Box are impressive :notworthy:
....P-Box = Piss-all-over-the-competition-Box! :grin:
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All down to the fact that one has 230+bhp through thr front wheels, the other has 360+. So 1 can use 1st gear, the other can't.. :signLOL:
Not sure about john but I certainly can't use 1st without lighting up.the tyres. Immediate short shift to second was the quickest way for me. That's why I think there's so much more to come from the launch with better tyres a differential and launch control.
Johns has more power but with wider grippier wheels and less weight transfer due to his coiloversbut I'd imagine he is suffering the same as me
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Have you had a read through this (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/381488.aspx?PageIndex=1) thread John? Might get you thinking a bit :P
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Not sure about john but I certainly can't use 1st without lighting up.the tyres. Immediate short shift to second was the quickest way for me. That's why I think there's so much more to come from the launch with better tyres a differential and launch control.
Johns has more power but with wider grippier wheels and less weight transfer due to his coiloversbut I'd imagine he is suffering the same as me
1st gear is used, but I can only launch with about 70% throttle and wait till second is engaged before putting my foot to the carpet. :driver:
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Have you had a read through this (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/381488.aspx?PageIndex=1) thread John? Might get you thinking a bit :P
I've read all that and there are definitely a few bits I can use. :innocent:
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Just read through the whole thread, :notworthy: very impressive mate, are you thinking about stripping the insides like your ED30?
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Just read through the whole thread, :notworthy: very impressive mate, are you thinking about stripping the insides like your ED30?
It may have the rear bench out from time to time, but it is mean't to be a daily usable project, rather than an out and out track machine.
If I get tempted back to having 2 cars, then who knows :rolleye:
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I haven't tried this launch control malarky in the S3, how do you do it, and will it damage the DSG box? :confused:
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I haven't tried this launch control malarky in the S3, how do you do it, and will it damage the DSG box? :confused:
It won't damage the DSG. My record was 24 launches in one day at Santa Pod. The gearboxes are much tougher than you think.
Launch control should be in your car's handbook....
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I'm at it again!! :jumping:
Teaser pic.... :evilgrin:
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Showing us the minimum washer fluid level as the next step in weigh saving? :P
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Foege?
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Pace?
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Hurdy, what pads do u use on your tarox brakes ? Also, does this car need a water rad upgrade ?
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I think I know.......
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Showing us the minimum washer fluid level as the next step in weigh saving? :P
:signLOL:
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Showing us the minimum washer fluid level as the next step in weigh saving? :P
Ooooh, never thought about that :signLOL:
Foege?
Who? :grin: Forge - No!
Pace?
Possibly :innocent:
Hurdy, what pads do u use on your tarox brakes ? Also, does this car need a water rad upgrade ?
Corsa Pads
The car would need a radiator upgrade if the Intercooler was large enough to be covering it's flow first :wink:
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The car would need a radiator upgrade if the Intercooler was large enough to be covering it's flow first :wink:
especially the HG IC which is about the same height as the rad!!
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Pace Intercooler and Radiator should be with me early in the new year. They are making a set for me based on the VRs having the same radiator and intercooler part numbers, The set will be sent up for test fitting to see if it is okay. If not then pics of the differences will be sent off for him to make up another set to fit.
Pace has proven in the past that just an Intercooler can make 5% on an OEM set-up, so on my car that would be a recoup of 12bhp through decreased charge temps. 8)
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Very interesting John, i did wonder what you had bought now. looks very good. theres one mod if you call it that and thats the front plate are you going to chop it down or put a border round it as plain it makes it appear bigger than it is. its the only thing that i kept being drawn to thru the 32 pages lol.
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Very interesting John, i did wonder what you had bought now. looks very good. theres one mod if you call it that and thats the front plate are you going to chop it down or put a border round it as plain it makes it appear bigger than it is. its the only thing that i kept being drawn to thru the 32 pages lol.
I'd like to remove it completely and adapt a larger front mesh for cooling and then I can have a smaller reg plate that is removable. A way off at the moment, but I'll get there :happy2:
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How are the corsa pads Hurdy?
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Not tried the corsa pads, but tried the Tarox Stradapads and they were worse than oem
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How are the corsa pads Hurdy?
Very good, work well and not squeaky when cold :happy2:
I think these are made by Pagid now too.
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Looks like another power mod will be winging it's way to me early next year now too. :innocent:
My penknife is quickly gonna become at least a handgun :laugh:
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Loba is it......
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Loba is it......
Not telling.........yet! :P
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Personnally i think its mega expensive even with the discount for that loba anyway. You can hybridise your own turbo for half that amount
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Personnally i think its mega expensive even with the discount for that loba anyway. You can hybridise your own turbo for half that amount
Plug and play appeals if they are as good as they promote themselves to be. Don't forget it also means you would have an OEM spare. :wink:
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You could probably buy a oem turbo with the money you save bygoing to turbo dynamics.
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My penknife is quickly gonna become at least a handgun :laugh:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg24.imageshack.us%2Fimg24%2F3244%2F38664309lightergun150pa.jpg&hash=340b6e1af291182957503eb44b6219d2916e70f3) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/38664309lightergun150pa.jpg/)
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My penknife is quickly gonna become at least a handgun :laugh:
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Probably :xmassmiley:
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Do you loose the supercharger as I suppose it becomes irrelevant if you go bigger turbo?
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Supercharger only operates upto 3500rpm before it disengages so it'll still be used and will help spool the turbo faster cancelling any extra lag you might expect with a larger turbo
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Supercharger only operates upto 3500rpm before it disengages so it'll still be used and will help spool the turbo faster cancelling any extra lag you might expect with a larger turbo
I.e. it will be rapid :laugh:
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Supercharger only operates upto 3500rpm before it disengages so it'll still be used and will help spool the turbo faster cancelling any extra lag you might expect with a larger turbo
I.e. it will be rapid :laugh:
:evilgrin: :driver: :evilgrin:
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BUT they say it'll only flow 270hp with all the bolts ons.
So your still 30hp shy of the 300hp target. That said thats only looking at peak hp. Gains in the midrange might be immense.
Wander if ben will still want to do dsg development if I change tuner :surprised:
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BUT they say it'll only flow 270hp with all the bolts ons.
So your still 30hp shy of the 300hp target. That said thats only looking at peak hp. Gains in the midrange might be immense.
Wander if ben will still want to do dsg development if I change tuner :surprised:
Not what Supersi says :evilgrin:
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BUT they say it'll only flow 270hp with all the bolts ons.
So your still 30hp shy of the 300hp target. That said thats only looking at peak hp. Gains in the midrange might be immense.
Wander if ben will still want to do dsg development if I change tuner :surprised:
Not what Supersi says :evilgrin:
Course it is, he's trying to sell you a turbo,he'll say anything to take some dollars off you. He said 270hp in his sales post, if more was available or likely he'd have said in his OP.
Ever the pessimist :laugh:
LOBA Motorsports GmbH
LO270 turbocharger
state-of-the-art “Extended Tip” compressor wheel
5-axis CNC re-profiled compressor housing and backplate
5-axis CNC re-profiled turbine housing
special clipped turbine wheel
optimized clearances
modified actuator
uprated bearing
precision balancing of individual components and CHRA
Depending on engine management settings, engine condition and other components utilized this turbo is capable of producing 270 PS
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Not with my component list :evilgrin:
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Look forward to the results. Baring the WMI you now have everything either fitted or ordered to go ahead with the build dont you? Go forth and be the guinea pig john, I shall follow you up the road abit later
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I cant see why you would need any more power with this John. As it is, it sounds like the perfect combination of tractable power and grip levels and power to weight. Drag strips are boring, and thats all it will be good for it you just go for immense power.
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There's alot of truth in that
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I think John should stop chasing numbers over winter, wait till spring then take it for a blast around a track. If it still feels too slow, or like it can handle more power, then go for it. But personally, i think any more will ruin what looks to be an absolutely immense car.
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We've had a setback with the hybrid. Looks like its not an option now with revo who don't want to develop past stage 2 anymore
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It's still going to be ace on a small circuit though :driver:
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nice car just read the whole thread
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Spoke to Revo and they feel that the engine wouldn't be safe with anything over the stage 2 map, so haven't any plans to develop an upgrade map for a hybrid turbo. :sad1: this basically means I will be stuck at stage 2 unless I ignore Revo and fit the hybrid anyway without having a map to optimise it. Water/meth and the intercooler and rad should net me a few bhp, so it isn't all bad news. Deako is right to a point, I feel the car can take more power at the top end but whether the w/m gives it the extra oomph I don't know for sure yet?
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Well that has saved you say £1457(1750euro) on a hybrid turbo and maybe another £100 on the additional revo mapping.
So what are you going to spend that £1557 on John.
If you cant make the extra bhp/ton by adding power, do it by shedding weight.
Seats, bonnet....
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Well that has saved you say £1457(1750euro) on a hybrid turbo and maybe another £100 on the additional revo mapping.
So what are you going to spend that £1557 on John.
If you cant make the extra bhp/ton by adding power, do it by shedding weight.
Seats, bonnet....
You are right, I've already found a carbon bonnet, but I'll need to fit a vent on it. Maybe look for carbon wings and even lighter alloys. Perhaps the bucket seats too.?
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you definitely need lighter alloys. Links for carbon bonnet please :party:
because ill have yours :laugh:
What about a fibreglass bonnet, would that also be substantially lighter than stock, but much cheaper than carbon?
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Or put it towards a 2.5TFSI :laugh: :evilgrin: :driver:
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you definitely need lighter alloys. Links for carbon bonnet please :party:
http://epr-int.com/products_details.php?PrimaryCategoriesID=1&SecondaryCategoriesID=&ProductCategoriesID=1352
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No fabia option :mad:
There is an FRP option as well, no prices though :sad1:
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Well that has saved you say £1457(1750euro) on a hybrid turbo and maybe another £100 on the additional revo mapping.
So what are you going to spend that £1557 on John.
If you cant make the extra bhp/ton by adding power, do it by shedding weight.
Seats, bonnet....
You are right, I've already found a carbon bonnet, but I'll need to fit a vent on it. Maybe look for carbon wings and even lighter alloys. Perhaps the bucket seats too.?
Looking forward to this.
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Save the money, wait and see how it performs on a track as it is. :xmassmiley:
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Save the money, wait and see how it performs on a track as it is. :xmassmiley:
Already ordered the I/C and Radiator anyway, but you are probably right, although I'll have some sticky rubber in February. 8)
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nice car but just buy a car that at stage 1 will out perfom it in every situation even with your mods ...RS MEGANE 250 :wink:
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nice car but just buy a car that at stage 1 will out perfom it in every situation even with your mods ...RS MEGANE 250 :wink:
Naaaaah! :signLOL:
I'd rather have my limbs chopped off than buy any car by Renault/Citroen/Peugeot! :sick:
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How boring would renault forums be.
Build threads with no work in them just pictures of stock cars
I like modifying :laugh:
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nice car but just buy a car that at stage 1 will out perfom it in every situation even with your mods ...RS MEGANE 250 :wink:
Naaaaah! :signLOL:
I'd rather have my limbs chopped off than buy any car by Renault/Citroen/Peugeot! :sick:
etto , the polo is a good looking car , and im a skoda fan but the latest fabia looks pants from every angle
Fair one, the Fabia does look fairly strange, but it did only cost £14k, and ive only spent £160 on mods ( Forge intake and battery), the rest ive had for free, so im over the moon. And i reckon a meganne RS wouldnt keep up with me in a straightline till over 100mph. (168hp/ton vs my 185Hp/ton, and thats before i fitted the IC, once i get the map done again im after 210hp/ton ). then id slow down for the bend and just allow him to pass :laugh:. Modified these things really really handle though. As shown in this review
[pdf]http://goapr.com.au/media/mm-june2011.pdf[/pdf]
That said, by the time ive bought the coilovers, ARBs, brakes, poly bushes etc i could have had a megane RS250 sat on my drive which would have been nice, as they are the mutts nuts
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How boring would renault forums be.
Build threads with no work in them just pictures of stock cars
I like modifying :laugh:
renaultsport and meganesport.net are really good forums
Well heres an idea, how about you stay there then and stop trolling our forum with your drivel!! :mad:
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How boring would renault forums be.
Build threads with no work in them just pictures of stock cars
I like modifying :laugh:
renaultsport and meganesport.net are really good forums
Well heres an idea, how about you stay there then and stop trolling our forum with your drivel!! :mad:
:congrats: :congrats: :congrats: Just what i was thinking. :fighting:
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se
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Amazing what a low weight car can do on low speed corners. In all under 100kmh corners the Polo carries 3-4 kmh greater speed than the others while they claim back some time on the straights. I can only imagine what a 270HP Polo can do ! However, unlike Hurdy here, I won't go more than stage 1 with my Polo GTI since it's a city commute but I'll try to lower the weight of the Golf even more and keep it as a track car only !
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Once mine is 3 years old id like to do somethin similar to stevePs and neilMs sttipped golfs.
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Once mine is 3 years old id like to do somethin similar to stevePs and neilMs sttipped golfs.
Gobby :P
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Haha said id like to do it, not will do it.
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Remember guys... "good will to all men" I don't mind the banter :santa: :happy2:
I've been thinking ( which is usually dangerous and nearly always expensive! :xmassmiley:). Without the upgrade turbo and with the uprated intercooler and radiator, plus water/meth I still reckon the Polo GTI will get between 250-260bhp. With some more weight reduction I reckon the car can easily get under 1,100kg, so we are still looking at a car with around 230bhp/ton and a lighter weight to tow around bends and out the other side.
A GTI MKV would need to have over 320 bhp to have the same power to weight ratio, but would still be slower around corners and out the other side.
Taking this into consideration, my revised plans are to reduce the weight further with bucket seats, lightweight bonnet, wing mirrors, removal of the supercharger soundproofing, LSD, even lighter alloys and some other tweaks like a front extended diffuser to help even more with cornering. In the meantime I will look at revised internal costs for pistons and rods and then go back to the uprated turbo and map at a later date and 300bhp+. the funds are there to do it all and more and I don't want to change cars as I love the car as it is already and any enhancements will just make it even better.
I could have had my choice of a lot of cars, but this has to have my widest in mind too, so on road usability is also important. :smiley:
Merry Christmas guys :santa:
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The way I see it they have saved me alot of money
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I agree John and this place is full of friendly banter! But the record has been stuck for so long with Candy now it's starting to wear a bit thin.......
Anyway enough cluttering up your thread! :happy2: :santa:
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Should have bought a BMW diesel! Oh wait that don't work :signLOL: coming along nicely john :happy2:
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Hurdy, when will you commence with the lightweight project and what will you be looking for first?
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January 2012 :jumpmove:
Basically straight away. :happy2:
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Hurdy, mine came with Dunlop SP Sport maxx wich I find mediocre. The car seems to have a hard time launching a little bit harder (not WOT) because of the wheelspin. I think some stiffer engine mounts would reduce this problem. Also the sidewall of the 215/40/17 tire is too small and doesn't work well with the suspension. I'm thinking about going to 215/45/17 wich would be a 3.42% diameter increase (tirerack says going over 3% might bring ABS/brake issues/failure). What's your thought on this ?
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I'll be going for Toyo R1R's for the road in February and they don't do 215 section tyres in my size, so I'm going to go for 215/45/17's anyway. I wouldn't have thought you'd have any issues with ABS as all the tyres will be the same. ABS detects slip difference between wheels and not size. The speedo should be more accurate at high speeds too.
I already have an uprated "race" lower mount for the car which helps reduce the engine movement and at some point will be looking at full engine mounts too, not yet though. :happy2:
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I'm going for federal 595RSR. Much cheaper, with loads of grip on tap.
I'm going to ruin my tyres at Mallory Park on Friday. That will thenbe completely ruined tyres after 3 trackdays, 25 1/4 mile runs and 7500 miles. Not to bad I think, shame they gave naff all grip.
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Can you get OEM size in Federals?
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Pretty sure you can.
http://www.federaltyres.com/ultra-high-performance/595rs-r (http://www.federaltyres.com/ultra-high-performance/595rs-r)
Or go nuts for track days and get the federal FZ201which I gather makes R888 look crap
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1037368&mid=0&nmt=Federal+FZ-201+Tyres+Road+legal+or+not%3F++for+the+Ring.+ (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1037368&mid=0&nmt=Federal+FZ-201+Tyres+Road+legal+or+not%3F++for+the+Ring.+)
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Pretty sure you can.
http://www.federaltyres.com/ultra-high-performance/595rs-r (http://www.federaltyres.com/ultra-high-performance/595rs-r)
Or go nuts for track days and get the federal FZ201which I gather makes R888 look crap
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1037368&mid=0&nmt=Federal+FZ-201+Tyres+Road+legal+or+not%3F++for+the+Ring.+ (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1037368&mid=0&nmt=Federal+FZ-201+Tyres+Road+legal+or+not%3F++for+the+Ring.+)
They sound like pretty decent tyres. Possibly ay give the FZ-201's a go instead. I'll look at prices tomorrow :happy2:
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Pretty sure you can.
http://www.federaltyres.com/ultra-high-performance/595rs-r (http://www.federaltyres.com/ultra-high-performance/595rs-r)
Or go nuts for track days and get the federal FZ201which I gather makes R888 look crap
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1037368&mid=0&nmt=Federal+FZ-201+Tyres+Road+legal+or+not%3F++for+the+Ring.+ (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1037368&mid=0&nmt=Federal+FZ-201+Tyres+Road+legal+or+not%3F++for+the+Ring.+)
They sound like pretty decent tyres. Possibly ay give the FZ-201's a go instead. I'll look at prices tomorrow :happy2:
They look pretty serious aswell just not in my size. Have you tried the yoka A048, similar price to the r888 but no one really uses them on here.
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I'm going for federal 595RSR. Much cheaper, with loads of grip on tap.
I run these on the Golf for track work, awesome tyres and should work even better on the lighter Polo/Vrs platform imo! :happy2:
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Silverstone FTZ RR Sport in a medium compound FTW!! :wink:
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Product.do?method=view&n=1790&p=249406&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=Competition%20Tyres
£135 a piece from Demon Tweeks, but was quoted very good prices by the official importer of the tyres earlier in 2010. :happy2:
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Love this thread, love this car!
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Devil's own Water/meth now scheduled for January :jumping: :jumpmove: :xmaspresent:
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What kit John? Boost/MAF, what nozzles, boot or bonnet install, prices etc.....
Can you make sure they get plenty of pictures of the install please.
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What kit John? Boost/MAF, what nozzles, boot or bonnet install, prices etc.....
Can you make sure they get plenty of pictures of the install please.
yes I will - you know me, always have plenty of pics available. :happy2:
I'll get all the details for you when I next see Steve Jr. :smiley:
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Made me smile a little :driver:
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:signLOL:
Corsa VXR - Old school?!?!?! :grin:
Is a Polo GTI cheaper too? :surprised:
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:signLOL:
Corsa VXR - Old school?!?!?! :grin:
Is a Polo GTI cheaper too? :surprised:
Yes I think the Polois cheaper too! Another win-win for the little Polo GTI. :jumpmove:
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In typical VAG fashion, steering has no feel. If they could sort out that, journo's would have nothibg to moan about.
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In typical VAG fashion, steering has no feel. If they could sort out that, journo's would have nothibg to moan about.
Mk5 golf has fairly good steering feel... is the new polo really over assisted or something? The audi A5s have mega light steering, its all wrong :sick:
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Since the car had the Bilsteins on there seems to be more feel in the steering wheel. Perhaps the cure lies there?
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How boring would renault forums be.
Build threads with no work in them just pictures of stock cars
I like modifying :laugh:
renaultsport and meganesport.net are really good forums
nath you are such a knob :confused:
Well heres an idea, how about you stay there then and stop trolling our forum with your drivel!! :mad:
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hurdy , sorry for hi jacking your build thread , ive deleated my comments , loving the polo :driver:
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:happy2:
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Well,
Booked in on Monday for the Water/Meth system Fitted. Gone for a Devil's Own system as it is simple and effective. The bottle and pump will be located in the boot next to the battery and will mean that there will be little evidence that it is even fitted apart from the injection point under the bonnet.
a 50/50 mix should give around 20-25whp extra on Revo Stage 2 setting "C" - race fuel only.
Effectively bhp should be somewhere between 260-270bhp.....fingers crossed!!!! :laugh:
With the planned weight reductions in place this would mean around 235-245bhp/ton, which is just shy of my 250bhp/ton target.
Daily the car will run with either just water or water/meth mix on setting B.
After this I'll be off to Autosport International to interrogate tyre manufacturers for a set of decent semi-slicks to get the power down effectively and some bucket seats to hold me in. :evilgrin:
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Do you have the ic and rad on route yet
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Do you have the ic and rad on route yet
I spoke to Mark earlier this week and he has had to order some more material for the intercooler. A small delay, but one that will allow me to test the water/meth set-up and see how much difference it makes with and without the I/C and Rad. :happy2:
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Nice one John :congrats:
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Errr, Water/meth nearly fitted, finishing it off tomorrow as I've been a bit finickety with where I want the intall to go and it's taken a bit more time than anticipated :grin:
Looking nice and neat so far though and Statllers have been brilliant again. 8)
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Errr, Water/meth nearly fitted, finishing it off tomorrow as I've been a bit finickety with where I want the intall to go and it's taken a bit more time than anticipated :grin:
Looking nice and neat so far though and Statllers have been brilliant again. 8)
I did say the glovebox wasn't ideal John! :grin:
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Lol, you are closer than you think! :grin:
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Why am I not surprised!! :laugh:
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Why am I not surprised!! :laugh:
The controller is going just under the climate control next to the glovebox :happy2:
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Can you ask them for a fitting cost. Ill get mine done there as well
Cheers
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Can you ask them for a fitting cost. Ill get mine done there as well
Cheers
Will do :happy2:
Currently learning a few extra bits to make for better fitting including a custom stainless pipe for the injector mount. Still not completed the install due to JoesGTI and Tom turning up and a funeral. Not worried though as I'll be back there tomorrow to have the install completed. :smiley:
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John, where are you siting the meth in relation to the throttle body?
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John, where are you siting the meth in relation to the throttle body?
It is the pipe just before the throttle body. The pipe is a very soft 90 degree pipe and has a different diameter inlet to outlet and is really too soft to support the injector without loads of internal and external washers and nuts. This is the pipe that I'm having modified to have a custom stainless pipe section, specifically to hold the injector. It will have a flat section welded onto it and and be drilled through and tapped with a BSP thread so that the injector has no internal nuts or screws holding it in place that could come loose and get sucked into the manifold. I've heard that this is not the ideal location from one other source due to the remote possibility of the throttle valve getting damaged over time, but this was by using impure methanol and the location is the best point for maximum benefit from cooling and power. Approximately 8-10" from the valve itself.
Oh and here is a quick photo of the rear install. The pump is gravity fed from the bottle and so has to have it's intake point below the bottle bottom. Luckily on the Polo the boot section is very deep and allows for this. Full credit to Statllers as they made a really neat job of the install and pipework. :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FWatermethbootinstall.jpg&hash=dcb43bb07fc7823f259dcdd0b062aaa4b9751ecc)
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Can you ask them for a fitting cost. Ill get mine done there as well
Cheers
+1 :happy2:
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Can you ask them for a fitting cost. Ill get mine done there as well
Cheers
+1 :happy2:
Haha, turning into a group buy installation :laugh:
Will do Mike. :happy2:
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John, alot of the 1.8T guys with WMI fit a spacer plate between the throttle body and inlet mani to fit the injector nozzle. There has been a good few cases of guys killing throttle bodys due to meth ingress...
Edit: you can see the spacer in this pic..
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz193%2FRobbieRolex%2F23ee41a4.jpg&hash=efd22078ff6be1790adb000b7a99aad041e85d3d)
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Some better pics, plus vids...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRobbieRolex%2FMethanol_Spacer%2FIMG_0457.jpg&hash=b4d3e7c47f07d9823c233d09a23de1f941dc7e39)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRobbieRolex%2FMethanol_Spacer%2FIMG_0458.jpg&hash=9704016489aec4c015558d305d56aad1fc186756)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRobbieRolex%2FMethanol_Spacer%2FIMG_0461.jpg&hash=ee64dafa7e9d0ce0ac815255c218c1bf9c7181cf)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRobbieRolex%2FMethanol_Spacer%2FIMG_0462.jpg&hash=689349f588c3fe82a1cd34d561b6503a85a92dec)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRobbieRolex%2FMethanol_Spacer%2FIMG_0463.jpg&hash=8f4022247afc5635ab1f055ef9adfacc0687088d)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRobbieRolex%2FMethanol_Spacer%2FIMG_0465.jpg&hash=1d51ebe33988becf05fdeaab6e5c8778595e6463)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRobbieRolex%2FMethanol_Spacer%2FIMG_0467.jpg&hash=2354846a96e141cbde46419cda42cc14b08df6dc)
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2 videos, before/after.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A2X5-SmKgA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A2X5-SmKgA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9BN7a8mXQM&feature=BFa&list=ULrL2QP0or_Vo&index=7 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9BN7a8mXQM&feature=BFa&list=ULrL2QP0or_Vo&index=7)
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Cheers for the pics Damien. :happy2:
The 1.4 is a bit back to front compared with the 2.0TFSI. The throttle vales is up against the bulkead and space is very tight there. The throttle valve inlet has a different lead into it too which doesn't lend itself to fitting a spacer. This is why we decided on the stainless insert. It does the same as the spacer, but is incorporated into the silicone pipework to give the injector thread something to locate into, rather than having internal nuts and washers that may blow out or come loose and get sucked into the inlet.
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What's happening with the WMI then john.
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What's happening with the WMI then john.
Awaiting parts to finish. Steve's mad busy tomorrow and I'm at the Autosport show on Saturday, so it will be Monday at the earliest before I get chance to have it finished now. :sad1:
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Cheers for the pics Damien. :happy2:
The 1.4 is a bit back to front compared with the 2.0TFSI. The throttle vales is up against the bulkead and space is very tight there. The throttle valve inlet has a different lead into it too which doesn't lend itself to fitting a spacer. This is why we decided on the stainless insert. It does the same as the spacer, but is incorporated into the silicone pipework to give the injector thread something to locate into, rather than having internal nuts and washers that may blow out or come loose and get sucked into the inlet.
No worries John. Just thought it might be of use to you :happy2:
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OMFG!!!!! :driver: :driver: :evilgrin:
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It's back then
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Do tell :pomppomp:
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OMFG!!!!! :driver: :driver: :evilgrin:
Do go on..... :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:
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Such a tease. :wink:
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OMFG!!!!! :driver: :driver: :evilgrin:
so it was a waste of money....
We expect a full write up including pics, dyno graphs, performance box data in the next hour :innocent:
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Joins the cue... :popcornsoda:
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The new controller arrived this afternoon and so Steve fitted it and put some distilled water in to test it. Worked perfectly and even giving it the beans for quite a while the oil temps stayed under 100oC, which is much better than the 110oC+ I was seeing on spirited runs. The car ran much smoother and felt better at the middle/top of the rev range. Then came the water/meth mix!.....
Holy sh*t!!! it was like sticking another small engine to help mine under the bonnet :driver: With the roads dry in parts today, I was able to give it the full throttle and even at 70mph+ was still getting wheel spin. The middle and top end of the rev range is MUCH stronger than before and Steve says that after a few days it will feel even better.
To say I'm impressed is an understatement, even though we'd been out in the car for a 15 min blast, when I topped up the bottle it had only used 120ml of mixture, so I know the bottle will last a fair while as it is about 3 litres to the brim.
Logs should get done tomorrow and then the dyno may have to wait as Statllers have had a refurb abd the electrics aren't plumbed back into the dyno yet :sad1:
Steve's promised it will be plumbed back in before the end of the week.
Bum dyno says muchos extra bhp and torque :evilgrin:
Steve calls it a "Black Ops" install as under the bonnet and in the boot you literally wouldn't spot the difference. In the cabin you definitely see the controller though :evilgrin: When that light comes on green it's like KITT in Pursuit Mode :rolleye: :driver:
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That's setting C. How is it just on setting B with WMI. No issues with the dsg torque limit then
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This polo is insane!!!!! Love the work you're doing to it mate.
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That's setting C. How is it just on setting B with WMI. No issues with the dsg torque limit then
No, no, nooooo. Thie car is still on setting B :surprised:. Haven't even tried setting C yet :scared:
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Oh, forgot to mention, not a whiff of clutch slip :happy2:
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That's setting C. How is it just on setting B with WMI. No issues with the dsg torque limit then
No, no, nooooo. Thie car is still on setting B :surprised:. Haven't even tried setting C yet :scared:
Good news for me :star: :star: Mines getting the custom map done on wednesday, so ill only have the WMI as an bolt on mod, so hopefully the dyno will show some good gains. Wander what the difference will be if you already have the IC. Obviously heatsoak isnt as much of an issue with mine
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That's setting C. How is it just on setting B with WMI. No issues with the dsg torque limit then
No, no, nooooo. Thie car is still on setting B :surprised:. Haven't even tried setting C yet :scared:
Good news for me :star: :star: Mines getting the custom map done on wednesday, so ill only have the WMI as an bolt on mod, so hopefully the dyno will show some good gains. Wander what the difference will be if you already have the IC. Obviously heatsoak isnt as much of an issue with mine
On Steve's ED30 he saw around 25whp and over 40lbft of torque without changing the settings. His car has the THS cooler, so good gains to be had. Even if you scale this down to a 1.4 from a 2.0ltr we should hopefully see 15-17whp and 25-28lbft increase. :party:
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Also forgot to mention that the controller allows you to set the minimum boost level where the water/meth comes in and another to set where the water/meth is fully on. My car has only had a proprietary setting and i'm sure some fine tuning on the dyno will optimise the benefits. The nozzle on mine is good for up to a 450bhp car, so should never really be at full capacity for my baby motor :pomppomp:
Still cannot believe the improvement it has made to how the car runs.....it's just .....better, smoother, more eager to rev. Like a well set-up ED30 on a crisp cool morning, but all the time! :smiley:
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The way I see it, the dyno might not be connected, but the performance box still works so get out testing lol
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The way I see it, the dyno might not be connected, but the performance box still works so get out testing lol
Oh yes. The 0-100mph should be the acid test. :happy2: Unfortunately snow is forecast up here for tomorrow. :sad1:
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it's like KITT in Pursuit Mode :rolleye: :driver:
You mean like this?
Would love to see the figures. I imagine with a few more mods, it might be like this:
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No, Mine is the newer version...... :evilgrin:
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The new series would have been more bearable had it not had the silly transformation crap.
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APR (Oz) have got their turbos hybridized now. They reckon their car at stage 2 is currently making 150kw at the front wheels which equates to around 205Hp at the wheels or 235Hp at the flywheel (ish). They reckon software is sorted for hybrids now, just srting the ancillaries for release
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404822_353623317981842_197439520266890_1387799_1670285799_n.jpg)
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Dont just tease us like that! :wink:
Edit: Ahhh ballz. He has removed his post now!! :grin:
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The hybrid looks good, but it will still be finding someone to put a map on it and at the moment I'm happy with Revo.
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Due to land at Chez Hurdy tomorrow....
New style Carbon Fibre paddle shifters.
Shouldn't lose those pesky small paddle shifters when turning the wheel anymore with the size of these beauties. :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FPaddleshifters.jpg&hash=ef666d67c4ff662f7f10f9ec2fcefc17ee46ff80)
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I know money is no object for you John when it comes to modding cars. But R8 interior now?!?!?! Jesus!!! :signLOL:
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I know money is no object for you John when it comes to modding cars. But R8 interior now?!?!?! Jesus!!! :signLOL:
*thinks....mmmmmmm R8 twin turbo!! :drool:*
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A few more pics of the water meth install.
View from the front...."looks normal"
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2Fmeth1.jpg&hash=3ce8a8eb40397bfb23bc718b58783b870da43c77)
Hidden at the back is a "T" piece boost tap that goes to the sensor on the controller
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FMeth2.jpg&hash=a479a54b02e13f4d72273a3d764a536c12b11866)
And just to the side of the boost tap is the tap in to the intake manifold - best shot I could get as it is that well tucked away!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi156.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2Fmeth3.jpg&hash=cca44e277de0cf1bab903eab579b975f9559ed07)
An early pic I took of where the water meth pipe and the boost tap pipe go through the bulkhead (before the silicone was added to protect the pipes)
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Another pic I took to try and get a pic of the tap that didn't quite work, but shows the in-line non-return valve for the water/meth mix (just see the red bit at the right hand side)
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This pic shows the wired in fuses for safety overload protection of the pump.
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Pic of the wiring and pipework going up the side of the floor trim
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Bottle!
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Finished rear install - very neat and you can just make out the black custom bracket that was fitted and sprayed black to mount the bottle to.
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The earth point and power for the controller were taken from under the gearbox section of the dash (unfortunately no pic)
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Now, i might be mistaken but theres no image of a dyno graph or two....
:evilgrin:
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Now, i might be mistaken but theres no image of a dyno graph or two....
:evilgrin:
It's not just your eyes Sy :evilgrin:
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Now, i might be mistaken but theres no image of a dyno graph or two....
:evilgrin:
It's not just your eyes Sy :evilgrin:
I know, I know :ashamed:
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I was at Statllers yesterday, they were discussing this and trying to persuade me to fit a kit to the Golf...
I am thinking about it and will be interested to see how you get along!
Rgds
Matt
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I was at Statllers yesterday, they were discussing this and trying to persuade me to fit a kit to the Golf...
I am thinking about it and will be interested to see how you get along!
Rgds
Matt
Did you get a price for supply & fit? :happy2:
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I was at Statllers yesterday, they were discussing this and trying to persuade me to fit a kit to the Golf...
I am thinking about it and will be interested to see how you get along!
Rgds
Matt
Did you get a price for supply & fit? :happy2:
No - I didn't have any real idea what I was talking about at the time, so thought I would do some research first.
I'd also just shelled out another £350 for the work they did, so wasn't especially keen to spend more - following a water pump/cam belt 3 months ago and a £1700 mod/revamp session only a month or two before that!!!
Matt
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*thinks....mmmmmmm R8 twin turbo!! :drool:*
You could buy a frickin R8 for the price of all these (admittedly lovely) mods! :signLOL:
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Price is £850 for a "stealth" install like mine with custom mounts etc
Standard bottle in the rear system is £750
Using the washer bottle up front is about £650 IIRC
Matt, the system definitely gives more power, a smoother feel and helps keep all that nasty "coking up" at bay.
On a 2 litre gains are around 25whp and 40lbft and Steve Jr says it feels like even more on the road!
*thinks....mmmmmmm R8 twin turbo!! :drool:*
You could buy a frickin R8 for the price of all these (admittedly lovely) mods! :signLOL:
Even with all the mods on the car I have still spent less than buying a basic new Golf GTI DSG 5dr in the same colour £27,670)!!! and I prefer the look of the Polo and the benefits that it's lighter body brings too......win - win for me. :happy2:
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Strong work Mr Hurdy :drinking:
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Price is £850 for a "stealth" install like mine with custom mounts etc
Standard bottle in the rear system is £750
Using the washer bottle up front is about £650 IIRC
Matt, the system definitely gives more power, a smoother feel and helps keep all that nasty "coking up" at bay.
On a 2 litre gains are around 25whp and 40lbft and Steve Jr says it feels like even more on the road!
*thinks....mmmmmmm R8 twin turbo!! :drool:*
You could buy a frickin R8 for the price of all these (admittedly lovely) mods! :signLOL:
Even with all the mods on the car I have still spent less than buying a basic new Golf GTI DSG 5dr in the same colour £27,670)!!! and I prefer the look of the Polo and the benefits that it's lighter body brings too......win - win for me. :happy2:
Thanks John!
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Price is £850 for a "stealth" install like mine with custom mounts etc
Standard bottle in the rear system is £750
Using the washer bottle up front is about £650 IIRC
Matt, the system definitely gives more power, a smoother feel and helps keep all that nasty "coking up" at bay.
On a 2 litre gains are around 25whp and 40lbft and Steve Jr says it feels like even more on the road!
*thinks....mmmmmmm R8 twin turbo!! :drool:*
You could buy a frickin R8 for the price of all these (admittedly lovely) mods! :signLOL:
Even with all the mods on the car I have still spent less than buying a basic new Golf GTI DSG 5dr in the same colour £27,670)!!! and I prefer the look of the Polo and the benefits that it's lighter body brings too......win - win for me. :happy2:
Thanks John !
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How annoyingly reachable....
Talk to me then. I'm yet to see a proper 'how it works' thread so what's the low down?
Is it basically the equivalent of super cold air injected into the induction system?
What's the longevity of a tank of mixture? Does one need to buy the mix at a hefty price or is it made from common household products?
Can you switch it on/off? If so, remotely from the cabin?
I'm interested for the Ring or on certain other occasions, but as I've now covered 30k in your poor old motor I'm also thinking of the cost/hassle of topping up if the mix is being wasted whilst cruising etc.
Thanks
Matt
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How annoyingly reachable....
Talk to me then. I'm yet to see a proper 'how it works' thread so what's the low down?
Is it basically the equivalent of super cold air injected into the induction system?
What's the longevity of a tank of mixture? Does one need to buy the mix at a hefty price or is it made from common household products?
Can you switch it on/off? If so, remotely from the cabin?
I'm interested for the Ring or on certain other occasions, but as I've now covered 30k in your poor old motor I'm also thinking of the cost/hassle of topping up if the mix is being wasted whilst cruising etc.
Thanks
Matt
Here you go Matt. :happy2:
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Good video mate. Lots of questions I will need to answer still though!
Any insurance issues due to them not understanding or anything?
Matt
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Try here http://vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=8853 (http://vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=8853)
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Try here http://vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=8853 (http://vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=8853)
LOL, that was the other link I was going to post last night before the site crashed on me! :confused:
Matt, £25 admin fee for me as I insured the car with a bhp limit and the water/meth shouldn't make the car above my limit. :happy2:
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Changed a couple of the settings in VCDS today, took the car for a spin and the difference is superb. :driver:
Changes made.....
In VCDS Select Control Module, go to 03 ABS Brakes, then 10 Adaptation, go to Channel:
Channel 09 Brake Assist
There are 3 settings for this
0-center (stock setting)
1-small
2-hard
I changed this from the stock 0 setting to 2 and this has made the brake pedal more responsive to smaller inputs. Feels more positive in use, especially under enthusiastic motoring.
Channel 36 XDS
There are 3 settings
0-center (stock setting)
1-weak
2-strong
Again I changed this from 0 to 2 and this one mod alone makes the Polo into a different/better beast under hard driving. It acts almost like my ED30 did with the Quaife and yet doesn't feel as fidgety. Seems more planted around bends and that much better to push through the corner on exit. This mod comes with a five thumbs up... :happy2: :happy2: :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
Also got a chance to look at the log blocks that can be done and FOOK ME there are over 400 of them for the Polo GTI!!!!! :surprised:
Annoyingly the measuring blocks all have different units of measurement and so for me to fully understand them I've had to wikipedia all the conversions to allow me to see what is what.
As I haven't got the water/meth running at the moment (no meth left!!) I thought I'd get stage 2 logs up and after faffing with conversions got the following.....
Block 201 - engine torque - max 350.1nm = 259lbft @ 3497rpm
Block 196 - Mass flow through throttle valve - 691.7kg/s = 192.2g/s = through the 0.81 division approx 237.2bhp
Typical schoolboy error was not pressing the turbo button and only getting a sample every 2 seconds :ashamed: :sad1: so may have missed peak mass flow and engine torque alltogether!! :fighting:
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Thats awesome John. I didnt realise you could adjust the XDS and brake force with VCDS. :happy2:
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Result john. Ill be doing this to mine as soon as i pick it back up on friday. How much more performance do you expect the LSD to give over this?
Im not to sure about the brake assist though, because your not as in control with it, plus on mine it would really overheat the brakes, which is something id imagine the XDS in setting 2 will all ready be doing.
iirc Ross tech say the VCDS torque figures are put out once the car is mapped. Easy way around that is an excel formula
Torque = (5252 x Hp) /rpm
You should be able to use the figures in the x y scatter graph and make your own power/torque curve graph.
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You can definitely feel it working on fast B roads Sy. Also feels a lot more sure footed on corners, as stock it could feel twitchy around the same corners. :happy2:
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What about straight line traction
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What about straight line traction
Similar,but setting 2 has the edge. I need to do some more timing to see if it makes a difference to the 0-60 time.
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Block 201 - engine torque - max 350.1nm = 259lbft @ 3497rpm
Block 196 - Mass flow through throttle valve - 691.7kg/s = 192.2g/s = through the 0.81 division approx 237.2bhp
Is that a maths boo boo or a typo?
if its measuring 691.7kg/s that would equate to 691700 g/s . Think your base units must be wrong
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691.7Kg/hour is 192.2g/s :happy2:
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Are these diff options through vag com just on the polo/xds?
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Block 201 - engine torque - max 350.1nm = 259lbft @ 3497rpm
Block 196 - Mass flow through throttle valve - 691.7kg/s = 192.2g/s = through the 0.81 division approx 237.2bhp
Is that a maths boo boo or a typo?
if its measuring 691.7kg/s that would equate to 691700 g/s . Think your base units must be wrong
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691.7Kg/hour is 192.2g/s :happy2:
Yep, it is kg/hr :laugh:
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Are these diff options through vag com just on the polo/xds?
Options are through vagcom/VCDS with any VAG car with XDS. :happy2:
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New trackday tyres winging their way to me....
Federal 595RS-R's 215/40/17's :evilgrin:
Have to wait till warmer weather comes though to put them on :sad1:
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I love the look of this one from Edition38.
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Brembo GT Brake Kit
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I love the look of this one from Edition38.
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Brembo GT Brake Kit
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Lovely!
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I like this one much more. Downloaded it this morning on Forza4 and you can do a 4wd version with a Golf .:R engine too! :drool:
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I'm with Mike and Deako. That looks lovely with the silver wheels. :happy2:
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Oh yes, those Comps are very nice. Little scene stretch needs ditching, but suit the car well.
Oh, John, you need these...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3618291.htm
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Oh yes, those Comps are very nice. Little scene stretch needs ditching, but suit the car well.
Oh, John, you need these...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3618291.htm
My piles hurt just thinking of those seats Mike!!!! :grin:
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I like a little black on black action myself! :grin:
The comps are nice, but I like the tdpr's too much. :love:
I've sat in some of those b2 Tillett seats and they are ....errr.....a snug fit for me :ashamed:
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TDs are just such good wheels, it's hard not to love them - light, good looking and cheap.
Not comfy?? How about these then :signLOL: Joking aside, I've been in a car with these, and they're nice when you're in.
Linky to pain (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kirkey-Lightweight-Layback-Seat-Cover-15-Wide-Oval-/280801228249?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item41610eb5d9#ht_1404wt_1189)
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My sciatica is playing up just looking at those Kirkey seats :scared:
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I have read countless build threads on Lotus forums, and nearly all of them who have chosen simple carbon seats with no padding have nearly all said that if you get one the correct size for your body, then they are just as comfortable as padded seats. My probax seats (fiberglass with a bit of foam) are just as comfortable as my recaros were. :happy2:
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I love the look of this one from Edition38.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv299%2Fdeanpollock%2F102_7559.jpg&hash=1ccc2fd4c35f789e54e133c886006f399dfc856e)
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Brembo GT Brake Kit
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that's my buddy JP's car - so so good looking!
wicked project thread this! :happy2:
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New Loba L0270 turbo ordered :evilgrin:
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LOBA Motorsports GmbH
LO270 turbocharger
state-of-the-art “Extended Tip” compressor wheel
5-axis CNC re-profiled compressor housing and backplate
5-axis CNC re-profiled turbine housing
special clipped turbine wheel
optimized clearances
modified actuator
uprated bearing
precision balancing of individual components and CHRA
Depending on engine management settings, engine condition and other components utilized this turbo is capable of producing 270 PS
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What are you like? :laugh:
:notworthy: :signLOL:
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Me too :innocent:
Wandering what sort of figures I can expect compared to when just considering hardware and ignoring software.
I have the downpipe, you have the TBE
I'm on stock intake. You have ITG
I have the intercooler, you have the water methonal injection
My lobas really going to be restricted by the stock intake I think
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OMG you two. :grin:
That little DSG box is going to implode.
What can the stock internals handle reliably?
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We don't know yet :surprised:
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Who's making the software for your new turbo Hurdy ? Revo ?
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Who's making the software for your new turbo Hurdy ? Revo ?
All will be revealed in due course :wink:
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Me too :innocent:
Wandering what sort of figures I can expect compared to when just considering hardware and ignoring software.
I have the downpipe, you have the TBE
I'm on stock intake. You have ITG
I have the intercooler, you have the water methonal injection
My lobas really going to be restricted by the stock intake I think
I reckon VERY restricted!!! :scared:
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OMG you two. :grin:
That little DSG box is going to implode.
What can the stock internals handle reliably?
I'm sure I read somewhere that VW tested the 1.4TSI to 280bhp :smiley:
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I reckon VERY restricted!!! :scared:
Thats my thoughts!! Ill be ok for temps and exhaust flow i think. Prob 90-95% as efficient as your TBE and WMI, but te intake is something that i need sorting i think :sick:
The ITG one on mine looks worse than the Forge attempt :sick:
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I see a battery relocation coming to the future of the vRS!! :happy2:
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This was soooo predictable, there was no way Hurdy was going to be out done :grin:
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This was soooo predictable, there was no way Hurdy was going to be out done :grin:
Lol.
Sorted for an intake now as well....
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This was soooo predictable, there was no way Hurdy was going to be out done :grin:
Have a fight see who's the best! :grin:
This was soooo predictable, there was no way Hurdy was going to be out done :grin:
Lol.
Sorted for an intake now as well....
Do go on :popcornsoda:
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And I thought this was my build thread :signLOL:
Anyway, the car has been at Statllers over the last day or so to see what fine tuning settings suit the wmi best. I'm still in the dark about the power, but me and Steve Jr did a quick pull against each other on a closed two lane private road! and from a roll I was still pulling on him over 90. Spoke to him after and he had the throttle nailed to the carpet.
Mike and just for you it was against a stage 2 Leon Cupra :innocent: :driver:
Spare water/meth tub in the rear of the car just in case i get eager on the way down to the dyno day tomorrow and use up the remainder of the bottle. :evilgrin:
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Christ so with a hybrid you should be stage 2+ territory :surprised:
These are going to be impressive up the 1/4 then. What do you reckon about your current 1/4 time
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Christ so with a hybrid you should be stage 2+ territory :surprised:
These are going to be impressive up the 1/4 then. What do you reckon about your current 1/4 time
Once the Federal's are on then I reckon the car is already worthy of 4's for the 0-60 dash and the 1/4 mile in the VERY low 13's. 0-100mph feels a good bit faster and I reckon the power at the top end doesn't drop off until the redline now. The car also feels smoother now too.
Next on my shopping list will be to hunt down that linear throttle map and a DSG map to stop the dreaded kickdown and gear-up. :fighting:
I hate to say it, but I now officially like this little Polo more than the Eddie :surprised: :ashamed:
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I hate to say it, but I now officially like this little Polo more than the Eddie :surprised: :ashamed:
.....I'm glad you say that because I think you'd feel very disappointed if you still preferred the Eddie.
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I hate to say it, but I now officially like this little Polo more than the Eddie :surprised: :ashamed:
.....I'm glad you say that because I think you'd feel very disappointed if you still preferred the Eddie.
You say the nicest things Robin!! :love:
Hold on!....you just want my Bourbons tomorrow :signLOL:
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I will guard your Bourbons John. :wink:
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I will guard your Bourbons John. :wink:
Are you gonna hide them and turn them into chocolate brownies? :grin:
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I will guard your Bourbons John. :wink:
Are you gonna hide them and turn them into chocolate brownies? :grin:
....Hide them where!!? The thought about how they might get turned into chocolate brownies is not a nice image!
But let's not take Hurdy's build thread off topic.
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....Hide them where!!?
If you don't already know, you won't want to!
Higy intrigued to see how things pan out tomorrow with this car, along with Steve's
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227hp i here? Dyno graphs please :popcornsoda: :party:
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227hp i here? Dyno graphs please :popcornsoda: :party:
227bhp and 230lbft :happy2: Lower than expected, but the way it is delivered and spread over a wide band shows how the wmi helps. Not too shabby for a 1.4 with just a zorst, map, intake and wmi. Next stage begins next week, Loba LO270 hybrid turbo, intercooler and another map. :party:
And again thanks to everyone for organising the day and the drive down was immense :evilgrin:
Graphs just for Janner.....
Silky smooth AFR.
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Gorgeous spread of torque of 225-230lbft held from 2500rpm all the way to 5100rpm and only dips below 200lbft just before 6000rpm
Power curve is lovely and smooth too and tops 200bhp at 4740rpmand still holds over 210bhp at 6800rpm
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Cheers John :happy2:
Agree on the torque and AFR. The curves are perfect.
Tbh, this is about what i expected you to be achieving on a dyno dynamics roller, this is why i said id be after 250hp from a hybrid on dynodynamic rollers as thats probably alot more on others.
How doo these figures compare to the Stadtlers ones?
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Comparison between a stock ed30 and mine. Pretty similar outputs across the range. Where the torque /bhp crosses over, mine has about 5bhp/lbft more.
ED30
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Mine
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That is mega similar, and also proves that power isnt everything, as yours would muller a stock ed30. The joys of weighing 300kg less
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That is mega similar, and also proves that power isnt everything, as yours would muller a stock ed30. The joys of weighing 300kg less
Pretty similar on a roll from 80mph up to 120mph - especially if the "heavy silver Pirelli" is going downhill to give it a weight advantage :innocent:
on the flat it does win against a "heavy silver Pirelli" and pulls on it even over 100mph :evilgrin: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: *hides behind seat from Greeners* :wink:
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on the flat it does win against a "heavy silver Pirelli" and pulls on it even over 100mph :evilgrin: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: *hides behind seat from Greeners* :wink:
I thought you said you were pulling on a stage 2 Cupra? What power is the pirelli running? Id have thought you would have nailed a stock pirelli
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on the flat it does win against a "heavy silver Pirelli" and pulls on it even over 100mph :evilgrin: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: *hides behind seat from Greeners* :wink:
I thought you said you were pulling on a stage 2 Cupra? What power is the pirelli running? Id have thought you would have nailed a stock pirelli
The run against the STAGE 2 Cupra was a low speed roll start from 20mph to around 90mph. Easy win with the weight advantage.
The run against the STOCK Pirelli was starting at 80+mph up to 120mph - different power band and weight isn't as much of a factor. :happy2:
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fair point. :happy2:
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Pah 80! more like 60-70! :innocent:
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Pah 80! more like 60-70! :innocent:
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You've never seen 60mph on any "private" motorway :P
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That is mega similar, and also proves that power isnt everything, as yours would muller a stock ed30. The joys of weighing 300kg less
Since when have Ed30/Pirelli's weighed nearly 1500kgs?!?!? :confused: Unless of course John has got the Polo down to 1050kgs..?
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That is mega similar, and also proves that power isnt everything, as yours would muller a stock ed30. The joys of weighing 300kg less
Since when have Ed30/Pirelli's weighed nearly 1500kgs?!?!? :confused: Unless of course John has got the Polo down to 1050kgs..?
Mine is 1150kg at the moment, but that is about 1/4 ton lighter than a 5dr DSG ED30/Pirelli. Soon should be lighter though! :wink:
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My ED30 weighed in at 1356kgs (on the nose) when weighed on corner scales @ the 30-130 day in 2009 and 2011. That was with 1/4 of a tank of motion lotion and the usual odds and sods in the car.
Be interesting to see what the Polo weighs on the same scales John.. Getting close now.. :party:
What route are you taking by the way? If you come down the A17 you can meet up with our convoy :happy2: There will be a Stage 2+ manual S3 you can give chase to as well.. :driver:
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Not even thought about a route yet. I'll have my plate full just keeping up with the two cars I'm coming down with!!
Turbo, intercooler and maps should be sorted by then (fingers crossed), so a little more top end is always welcome. :jumping:
1356kg in a 3dr DSG is about right as the unladen official weight for a 3dr dsg is 1376kg with a 90% full tank. A 5dr is 25 or 30kg heavier iirc. :smiley:
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Little update...
It's looking like the power mods are hitting the torque limiter of the DSG, so I'm back to needing at least a torque de-limit, before I get some more urge from the car.
The wmi must be working as I used over half a bottle of it on the round trip to JKM. :evilgrin:
Been out today, even though it was damp the car still managed a 1/4 mile in 14.1 at 103.5mph and that was off a 5.8 second 0-60 as grip was at a premium. Hopefully I'll be able to get to the pod or York soon. :driver:
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Little update...
It's looking like the power mods are hitting the torque limiter of the DSG, so I'm back to needing at least a torque de-limit, before I get some more urge from the car.
Whats making you say that? iirc, it shows up in VCDS if it hits a limiter. What is REVOs take on this, can they not bypass it?
Kev@ Jabba said that my DSG had showed 3 flashes on its ECU when he was given the car so i think shark had fiddled with the torque limiter somehow, like they did on DomTs ed30 when his DSG was limiting torque.
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Little update...
It's looking like the power mods are hitting the torque limiter of the DSG, so I'm back to needing at least a torque de-limit, before I get some more urge from the car.
Whats making you say that? iirc, it shows up in VCDS if it hits a limiter. What is REVOs take on this, can they not bypass it?
Kev@ Jabba said that my DSG had showed 3 flashes on its ECU when he was given the car so i think shark had fiddled with the torque limiter somehow, like they did on DomTs ed30 when his DSG was limiting torque.
I've spoken to Carl at Revo and he said do a DSG reset and re-calibration. Not had chance to do it yet, but I want to put the car on Statller's dyno first to see what is happening.
I may give Shark a call if my map is being limited by the DSG limiter. Maybe they can lift the limiter for me?
When you look at my JKM dyno the torque rises smoothly to 2600rpm and swiftly tops out and then wavers until it gets to 4900rpm when it goes smooth again as it tails off. Just seems strange that the torque chops off at that level? :confused:
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I may give Shark a call if my map is being limited by the DSG limiter. Maybe they can lift the limiter for me?
They can lift your boost as well :grin:
When you look at my JKM dyno the torque rises smoothly to 2600rpm and swiftly tops out and then wavers until it gets to 4900rpm when it goes smooth again as it tails off. Just seems strange that the torque chops off at that level? :confused:
Looks like it could be that way, but the power curve looks perfect, and the torque is calculated from that. Id have expected to see a flat spot in the power as well ifg it was being limited. Also would the power not have shot upwards when the torque dropped off as its no longer on the limiter.
Id have expected logs would show if its been limited. How does the car limit the torque, is it through fuel or timing? Both of these would be very noticable when logged.
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Good project!
This lines are really like ed.30!
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Looks like it could be that way, but the power curve looks perfect, and the torque is calculated from that. Id have expected to see a flat spot in the power as well ifg it was being limited. Also would the power not have shot upwards when the torque dropped off as its no longer on the limiter.
Id have expected logs would show if its been limited. How does the car limit the torque, is it through fuel or timing? Both of these would be very noticable when logged.
Look at the power curve again, as the torque limit is hit the angle of power increase gets a little shallower.
I've not done any WMI timing logs yet, but if the weather is okay I will be doing some tomorrow.
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Sy, I always thought that power was calculated from torque?
As in, if you make more or hold torque better yu will get more power!!
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Sy, I always thought that power was calculated from torque?
As in, if you make more or hold torque better yu will get more power!!
It is :happy2: lbft=(Hp x 5252)/rpm
torque is a derivative of power. More power = more torque and vice versa.
The power curve looks very linear and progressive, that result is a plateau of torque. If there was more torque in the midrange there would be a large hump in the power and not so linear.
My old shark graph shows the hump.
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The linear power curve in this stock graph shows that the torque result flat lines
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Looks a bit like my torque limited map
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i looked at yours before Dom, it is similar except yours continues to climb, albeit very gradually up until 4700rpm whereby it drops.
Johns peaks at 2800rpm and drops from there on. I do hope its not torque limiting. Were going to have some pretty big issues with our hybrids if it is!!
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Found this on You Tube. :happy2:
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Love the way he pronounces Polo :signLOL:
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Love the way he pronounces Polo :signLOL:
Vawwkswagen Pawwlo :grin:
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Couple of mini updates.
The Federal 595RS-R's are on the car and are a positive benefit for grip and handling over the normal road tyres and relatively cheap at £110 a corner.
Also got a Gulfstream footrest pedal, big thanks to Gulf as he had 9N3 Polo footrests and the 6R footrest is an exact match. :happy2: pics to follow.
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Be interesting to know how you find them compared to R1R and R888's as im getting pretty bored of these winter tyres now :happy2:
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Found this on You Tube. :happy2:
iirc the written article was more positive, but on here they just say boring. Basically rate the Clio and Mini as being lightyears ahead of the others.
1-Clio RS200
2-Mini Cooper S Works
3-DS3Racing
4-Polo GTI
5-Corsa VXR
Wouldnt mind trying this new VXR nurburgring edition though
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Found this on You Tube. :happy2:
iirc the written article was more positive, but on here they just say boring. Basically rate the Clio and Mini as being lightyears ahead of the others.
1-Clio RS200
2-Mini Cooper S Works
3-DS3Racing
4-Polo GTI
5-Corsa VXR
Wouldnt mind trying this new VXR nurburgring edition though
So, out of those "competitors" to the Polo GTI which ones can you get a 5dr in with an auto (DSG) option..............errrr.............none. :grin:
£24k+ for a Sh!troen!! :surprised: :sick:
Stock these do the following....
1-Clio RS200 - £16,800 for cup with no options or air con - 0-60 in 7.3 and 0-100 in 18.2
2-Mini Cooper S Works - £22,390 for a boggo spec - 0-60 in 7.1 and 0-100 in 17.2
3-DS3Racing - £24,300 std spec - 0-60 in 7.3 and 0-100 in 17.5
4-Polo GTI - £19,410 for a base 5dr - 0-60 in 7.1 and 0-100 in 18.9
5-Corsa VXR - £18,625 for a base spec - 0-60 in 7.5 and 0-100 in 19.5!!
Mine with the Federals in place 0-60 in 5.0 and 0-100 in 12.9.............admittedly most of the others would be faster with extra money spent on them too.
A mapped Polo GTI definitely isn't boring :wink: :evilgrin:
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Did you every time yours when stock John? 18.9 secs seems a bit slow to me. Same with the VXR, I have seen acceleration tests which have been a lot quicker than that (6.8 and 16.9).
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The Federal 595RS-R's are on the car and are a positive benefit for grip and handling over the normal road tyres and relatively cheap at £110 a corner.
^^^
I can vouch for this having been given a hot lap of Strines in the Polo yesterday!
ps. Thanks again Hurdy for sorting that bit of coding out for me. Great to meet you and loving the Polo. Will be following this thread with interest from now on! :happy2:
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Did you every time yours when stock John? 18.9 secs seems a bit slow to me. Same with the VXR, I have seen acceleration tests which have been a lot quicker than that (6.8 and 16.9).
No, It was mapped on day 2 after I got it! :laugh:
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Just finished fitting this today. Took 20mins total to fit. Big thanks to Gulfstream :love:. Bonus for anyone not wanting to screw it in is that you can order them with no holes. Also you can specify the letters. TDI, GTI etc. :happy2:
Added some red tape behind the GTI to mine for added effect.
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Car is finally booked in for the turbo upgrade and the Pace intercooler and radiator swaps. :driver:
Will be done before Ultimate Dubs on the 11th March. :evilgrin:
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:laugh: :stupid: Nutter :stupid: :laugh:
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:laugh: :stupid: Nutter :stupid: :laugh:
:signLOL:
It will still probably be the slowest on the 30-130 day though! :sad1:
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Coming along nice, I hear alot about it when am at Stattlers so am sure ill get an update when am there all day sat off Steve :happy2:
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Very nice dead pedal. :congrats:
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Cheers guys :happy2:
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Mine with the Federals in place 0-60 in 5.0 and 0-100 in 12.9.............admittedly most of the others would be faster with extra money spent on them too.
A mapped Polo GTI definitely isn't boring :wink: :evilgrin:
They aren't on about the power though, its the thoughts of the Polo in general comparatively. If they thought the Polo was boring, imagine what they would have thought of the fabia :grin:
Obviously heavily modified isnt any comparison to the above reviews at all as its nothing like the stock car any more.
I wander though how a heavily modified Mini Cooper S JCW would compare to an equally modified GTI/vRS!!
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Getting nervous now. :scared:
The car is booked in for this Thursday and neither the I/c, rad or turbo have turned up yet :surprised:
Pace say the i/c and rad are "in production" but haven't replied to a call for an update and the Loba turbo is on express delivery tomorrow!
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Getting nervous now. :scared:
The car is booked in for this Thursday and neither the I/c, rad or turbo have turned up yet :surprised:
Pace say the i/c and rad are "in production" but haven't replied to a call for an update and the Loba turbo is on express delivery tomorrow!
Turbo lag already. :innocent:
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Getting nervous now. :scared:
The car is booked in for this Thursday and neither the I/c, rad or turbo have turned up yet :surprised:
Pace say the i/c and rad are "in production" but haven't replied to a call for an update and the Loba turbo is on express delivery tomorrow!
Turbo lag already. :innocent:
:congrats: :congrats:
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Well the turbo is on and up and running.
Still running Revo stage 2 software at the moment and I believe with full mapping the turbo would free up more power.
I still think the DSG is restricting it in some way but the car is most definitely faster. 0-60 mph in 4.9 seconds and the 100mph dash is now dispatched in 12.3 seconds. A quarter mile dash with a kink in it and the last stretch uphill ( as was the 0-100) is running at 13.6 at 104.7mph
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Looking really good John, did the fitting go well then was it pretty straight forward? When you getting a tweaked custom map then?
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Looking really good John, did the fitting go well then was it pretty straight forward? When you getting a tweaked custom map then?
Yep all pretty straight forward.
Live logged the intake temps and the water meth is really doing the business. 30oC pre-throttle valve temps and yet when the wmi is on the manifold intake temps drop below 19oC from the same as the throttle valve temps. Not sure I even need the Pace i/c and rad! :surprised:
Also the boost is running okay at 0.1bar over requested, so no way out over-boosting.
Could do with a DSG map though to make things just how I want.
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Nice work Hurdy, you should be working for VW advertising :congrats: Your making me want to buy a Polo GTI :smiley: I assume the bigger turbo spools as well as the original due to the compressor helping out, so theres no negatives there? Do you know where's the power limit on stock injectors? Any negative points yet found on the car?
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Looks like things are coming on nicely John.. Propersleeper.com :evilgrin:
Are you bringing the Vbox with you to Marham? If so, do you mind if I have a squirt.. :wink:
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Looks like things are coming on nicely John.. Propersleeper.com :evilgrin:
Are you bringing the Vbox with you to Marham? If so, do you mind if I have a squirt.. :wink:
They're supplied at the event aren't they??
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Looks like things are coming on nicely John.. Propersleeper.com :evilgrin:
Are you bringing the Vbox with you to Marham? If so, do you mind if I have a squirt.. :wink:
They're supplied at the event aren't they??
Yes they are, but I'll get Steve Jr to bring it as it is his box I'm using.
JMP - no negatives on the conversion, just need a remap for the DSG box to hold it in gear. :happy2:
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Looks like things are coming on nicely John.. Propersleeper.com :evilgrin:
Are you bringing the Vbox with you to Marham? If so, do you mind if I have a squirt.. :wink:
They're supplied at the event aren't they??
Yes they are Mike, but only for your 30-130 run. After that they are then removed ready for the next car. I wouldn't mind going for a few 0-XXX runs afterwards.. :wink:
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Well the turbo is on and up and running.
Still running Revo stage 2 software at the moment and I believe with full mapping the turbo would free up more power.
I still think the DSG is restricting it in some way but the car is most definitely faster. 0-60 mph in 4.9 seconds and the 100mph dash is now dispatched in 12.3 seconds. A quarter mile dash with a kink in it and the last stretch uphill ( as was the 0-100) is running at 13.6 at 104.7mph
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Get to pick mine up tomorrow. I hear 1st and 2nd are a nightmare for traction at the moment. Wider stickier tyres for me i think.
Ill let you know how t goes, SteveP seemed impressed. :popcornsoda:
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The tyres help a lot, but they can only do so much and if provoked can still overpower the tyres.
1/4 mile should be fun then eh!
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Small update....
The Pace intercooler and radiator have gone on (arrived a day too late to be fitted at the same time as the Turbo :sad1:). Not quite an exact fit as some re-routing of wiring had to be done, the ambient air temp sensor bracket had to be re-adapted as it interfered with the front mounted intercooler and the bottom right hand i/c pipe didn't quite allow enough room against the fan panel for the hosing to go back on, but all-in-all the fitting went well to say they hadn't physically seen the Polo before and went with the vRS format that Janner_Sy has. I've yet to do any logging as I only got the car back at 8.35pm last night and have been on the night shift too. I do have pics and will post up when I've fully woken up! :laugh:
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Bloomin pauper band won't let me upload pics. :sad1:
Got the car ready for the 30-130 day. Extinguisher and stickers are on ( at least 20bhp worth ). Fingers crossed that the weather is ok.
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Good luck John :happy2:
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As Steve says Good Luck for tomorrow John. Go say "Hi" to Jim (Black Ocyavia) and Luke (Green Fiesta). :happy2:
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Apart from the weather it was a brilliant day. Saw a few peeps I knew - jim at JKM, DanGB, Rich ( used to own a Pirelli but now has a TTRS ), Luca in his ultra fast Fiesta and Lister of smeg! In his Civic.
Went down with Steve Jr and Craig from Statllers. :smiley:
My targets for the day were 25-30 seconds for the 30-130mph run and over 140mph for the top speed run.
I actually beat 25 seconds at 24.04 seconds and the top speed was 142.9, so mission achieved.
Interestingly my times and speeds were slower on the high octane map than setting B, so again I learnt something there too.
Next year if I still have the same car the targets will be to get under 20 seconds and over 150 mph :innocent:
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Bloody hell Mate, your Baby Gti just gets better and better. Reading this thread is great but I always leave it thinking about buying a Polo.
Have you tracked it much?
What are your plans this year?
I guess we are doing a forum Nurburg trip (I hope so anyway), but it would be great if we all sort a few more forum trackdays this year?
I need the practice :ashamed:
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This year I'm hoping to get to the 'ring, Oulton Park, Donington and a few 1/4 mile days. :happy2:
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This looked awesome tonight at the lowdown meet mate, mine was the mk5 jetta ;-)
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Still at exhaust uk or meadowhall retail park?
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Meadowhall retail park was a massive turnout 40+ cars
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Meadowhall retail park was a massive turnout 40+ cars
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This year I'm hoping to get to the 'ring, Oulton Park, Donington and a few 1/4 mile days. :happy2:
:grin: I'd love to know how many 1/4 miles you have done.
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This looked awesome tonight at the lowdown meet mate, mine was the mk5 jetta ;-)
Yep, spotted that car straight away - loved the BBS alloys and the chromed front. :happy2:
This year I'm hoping to get to the 'ring, Oulton Park, Donington and a few 1/4 mile days. :happy2:
Lost count Monte :laugh:
:grin: I'd love to know how many 1/4 miles you have done.
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Hurdy are you coming to spring GTI at the pod?
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Hurdy are you coming to spring GTI at the pod?
Yep. :happy2:
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Cool, see you there :happy2:
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see you both there. I'm going to this one as I can't make inters this year. :happy2:
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Ace... Cant wait to do the 1/4 :driver:
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Ace... Cant wait to do the 1/4 :driver:
Same here. I'll be looking for a sub 14 second official time first off and then take it from there. Fastest UK 6R Polo GTI is currently Blade ( Ryan ) at 13.99 and the fastest UK 1.4 TSI is 13.41 with a stripped Ibiza Cupra on R888's. Should prove interesting. :driver:
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I think the early stage 1 REVO cars were running more aggressive maps to what they offer now. Because the guys who had theirs mapped whenit was first released all seem to perform better on the strip. Maybe that's why his engine went boom!
He reckoned he had 225hp before his intake and intercooler spray was fitted pair that to his stripped interior = quick 1/4 time. Lightweight wise id expect him to nail the launch but have a mediocre terminalspeed, however he has the fastest terminal beating all the stage 2 cars with their tbe, sticky tyres, intakes, intercoolers etc
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Well at the moment I know I can get an honest 13.6 @ 104+mph on a dry dusty bent stretch of track that is on an incline at the end, so I'd like to think I can at least match that. :smiley:
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Oh, and that is without stripping the car down!
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There are a few tracks like that in Derbyshire :innocent:
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Just looking at that guys time slip. http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-Seat-Ibiza-Specs-21045.html (http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-Seat-Ibiza-Specs-21045.html) His 60ft time is phenominal:2.09 Seconds!!!
That's 0.7 Seconds faster than I could manage the other day. If I could make up that launch alone id be topping that leaderboard. Plus my terminals were higher despite loss of traction in 1st, 2nd and 3rd and double gear changes due to the dsg auto shifting. We should top this board I think if everything goes right and conditions are good.
That was with the higher boost map with the dsg issues on the stock air box, so not sure of the power output. It was more than I have at the moment though. I'm confident we can do it,or ill get skint trying lol
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I managed several 60ft runs on my 0-60mph runs and they were all 2.2 or 2.3 seconds. May get better traction at the Pod or York. :driver:
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I managed several 60ft runs on my 0-60mph runs and they were all 2.2 or 2.3 seconds. May get better traction at the Pod or York. :driver:
This is the problem i guess. Even with those 60ft times which are good, your still 0.2 of a second away from his, so thats got to be gained up the strip.
Its achievable i think with your current setup. If you match his 60ft i think you would muller his time.
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I managed several 60ft runs on my 0-60mph runs and they were all 2.2 or 2.3 seconds. May get better traction at the Pod or York. :driver:
Are you going to york rwyb in a couple of weeks time?
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There are a few Rwyb days over the next few weeks and I'm going to try and get to both the Pod and York. :happy2:
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How do you rate the Federals John compared to the R888s now youve had a chance to put some miles on them, im in need of some track tyres now and there a pretty good saving over the r888s.
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Sy - this is my best 60 ft time (I am on the right CC1507) - but blew the run. Thought that 1.58 was pretty good
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All about getting it all to come together :signLOL:
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If i managed that time id be into the 12s lol, thats over a second faster than mine. To be fair thats with really really worn 205 wide conti 2 tyres with circa 260-270 pushing through them :grin:
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How do you rate the Federals John compared to the R888s now youve had a chance to put some miles on them, im in need of some track tyres now and there a pretty good saving over the r888s.
The Federals are much better than any normal road tyre in the dry or damp. In the wet they are good, but not as good as normal road tyres. They aren't as grippy as R888's but they have a better wear rate and don't sound like a tractor on the road. I'd say about 90% of the grip of R888's, but they are more stable for longer when used heavily and from what I have heard they will last much longer. :smiley:
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How do you rate the Federals John compared to the R888s now youve had a chance to put some miles on them, im in need of some track tyres now and there a pretty good saving over the r888s.
The Federals are much better than any normal road tyre in the dry or damp. In the wet they are good, but not as good as normal road tyres. They aren't as grippy as R888's but they have a better wear rate and don't sound like a tractor on the road. I'd say about 90% of the grip of R888's, but they are more stable for longer when used heavily and from what I have heard they will last much longer. :smiley:
Cheers Mate kinda similar to R1R's then :happy2:
So are you happy you went with the hybrid option or has it not quite delivered on the power you were expecting, i honestly carnt work out wether its made a noticable difference to yours or Sy's car. Is there more available from the turbo once the mapping is there? Do you think you'll reach the 300hp mark from it?
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Mines made a big difference and is still running abot.0.5Bar less boost than this turbo can rptake. Can't see 300hp tbh but 270-280hp is achievable once the dsg issues are cured as were bouncing off the limiters in the gearbox.
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So is it clutch issues or the gearbox map itself that need altering or both? Has the company from SCN, i think INA, come up with a clutch pack yet?
What about with WMI wont that be worth 20hp or so on top of the hybrid?
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It is the torque limiting in the OEM DSG software that is limiting performance at the moment. I'm running over 230bhp on a Dyno Dynamics dyno without the WMI and on setting B on a non hybrid stage 2 Revo map, so I'm nowhere near optimised at the moment. WMI will give around 12-14bhp over what I'm running now and then an optimised map should give another 20-30bhp on top of that - on dyno Dynamics rollers. So that should give around 262-274 bhp and similar torque on a DDD once the set-up is optimised. There are other mods to do which may give a little more, but tbh I don't think my tyres would handle it. The sweet spot for the chassis is probably what the car will be when optimised and even then I'd like an LSD, engine mounts and wider tyres! :driver:
The car does 0-60 in 4.9 seconds as she is now, so she is plenty quick off the line and around the bends the car is much more nimble than my ed30 was. I weighed the car this week and even with all the parts onboard and 1/4 of a tank of fuel it only weighs 1160 kg. That is a good 200+ kg lighter than a DSG Ed30.
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Went to the Fast show on Sunday. First outing for the car down the strip. Took it down in full road trim including spare and 2/3 rds of a tank of fuel. Only had chance for a couple of runs and fluffed them both :ashamed:
1st run I over estimated the grip that should have been available and wheelspun through the first three gears, geared up to fourth early and then the DSG kicked straight back down to third -result = poo run.
2nd run the launch was more careful but still had too much wheelspin, geared up through to fourth, planted the go fast pedal and.........kicked down to third again!!! Grrrrrr. Lost about half a second after pulling my face off the windscreen and ended up with a slow 13.93@102.34mph.
Definitely a low 13 second run in there and my terminals were down by 3-4mph, but not bad considering the run itself and being in full road trim. :smiley:
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Thats a fast time even with a fluff. :happy2:
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Want to see a dyno launch video on Steves rollers :signLOL: :popcornsoda:
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Thats a fast time even with a fluff. :happy2:
The worst thing is, and John will agree, thats not a quick time and tbh not reflective of what the car can actually do. Theres alot more to come on these. :party:
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Thats a fast time even with a fluff. :happy2:
The worst thing is, and John will agree, thats not a quick time and tbh not reflective of what the car can actually do. Theres alot more to come on these. :party:
Cheers TC :happy2:
Si is right though, if I can get a 13.6 on a dodgy track that isn't straight and ends up going uphill, a 13.9 is still wayyyy off target.....for now :wink:
That time still puts me as the fastest 6R polo though - even with the fluff :driver:
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^^^^
More fun if there's always something to strive for :happy2:
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More fun if there's always something to strive for :happy2:
Too right :driver:
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Been a bit lax in keeping this thread up to date :ashamed:
Went to Elsecar mega meet and cleaned the car and then finished with the DA polisher followed by a good waxing and the result was this.....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi156.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FElsecarcleanPolo.jpg&hash=53b47ee153e58beb454c10348ca3b0adf6510b75)
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Thanks to the guys who took these shots as I only had my crappy phone with me.
Also recently tried some VCDS setting alterations and ramped up all the settings on the map and WMI mix to try and get a decent run after altering the settings. Warmer weather and clean, dry roads after the rain along with a few hard previous runs to warm the tyres up resulted in the following (all done at the same spot as previous runs)
0-100mph in 11.8 seconds off a decent 5.1 to 60mph, so running the richer mix with setting C and setting off with traction control on in S mode seems to be the way to go for a 1/4 mile run and resulted in the following...........
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Clearly a better top end power with a 107.2mph terminal, but still only a 13.5 *note to self - must try harder!*
as you can see by the G-Force, the pull is strong too!
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These are the best runs and several were hampered with the dreaded DSG torque limiter :fighting:, so still need that DSG remap sooner rather than later.
The good sign is that there were no faults came up on VCDS after the runs, the bad sign is that I appear to be running out of front tread on the tyres :driver:
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Been a bit lax in keeping this thread up to date :ashamed:
Went to Elsecar mega meet and cleaned the car and then finished with the DA polisher followed by a good waxing and the result was this.....
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Thanks to the guys who took these shots as I only had my crappy phone with me.
Also recently tried some VCDS setting alterations and ramped up all the settings on the map and WMI mix to try and get a decent run after altering the settings. Warmer weather and clean, dry roads after the rain along with a few hard previous runs to warm the tyres up resulted in the following (all done at the same spot as previous runs)
0-100mph in 11.8 seconds off a decent 5.1 to 60mph, so running the richer mix with setting C and setting off with traction control on in S mode seems to be the way to go for a 1/4 mile run and resulted in the following...........
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Clearly a better top end power with a 107.2mph terminal, but still only a 13.5 *note to self - must try harder!*
as you can see by the G-Force, the pull is strong too!
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These are the best runs and several were hampered with the dreaded DSG torque limiter :fighting:, so still need that DSG remap sooner rather than later.
The good sign is that there were no faults came up on VCDS after the runs, the bad sign is that I appear to be running out of front tread on the tyres :driver:
Wow, she looks awesome, when they're clean, nothing looks better than black!! :congrats:
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^^^Yeah, cheers I think so too. Although I also love the .:R Blue. :happy2:
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Mr Proctor will be doing a full detail on mine soon, and will post the piccies afterwards.
You made the best choice going for the black rather than the R blue :happy2:
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Mr Proctor will be doing a full detail on mine soon, and will post the piccies afterwards.
You made the best choice going for the black rather than the R blue :happy2:
Ooooh, I don't know about that, if I'd gone for .:R blue I'd have a Golf .:R instead of a Polo GTI :laugh: You can't spec the Polo in .:R Blue :sad1:
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Hmmmm, maybe so, but u did save yourself 20K :drinking:
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Hmmmm, maybe so, but u did save yourself 20K :drinking:
Yep, probably more after mods I'd have done to an .:R. :scared:
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Looks great John! :happy2: :congrats:
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Looks great John! :happy2: :congrats:
Cheers, I now remember how much work you put into detailing all those cars that you do. :happy2:
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You'll know i you hit the limiters John, its like hitting a brick wall!!! I took a guy out this afternoon @ APR to show him the map with the medium boost map and hit the limiters everytime, very very notable and not just a little bit of torque lopping.
I let him have a spin in mine with the 251Hp map where the boost comes in slower(no limp mode) and he seemed pretty impressed. Hes now stage 1.
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Yeah, It just seems to stop accellerating immediately and then the speed just crawls up :sad1:
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I'm very impressed with the performance you've been able to comfortably squeeze out of it John, superb. The recorded stats look good for a tuned Golf GTI, never mind a Polo GTI :pomppomp:
I think the 6R GTI has taken the Polo to a new level. Looks fantastically clean at the meet pics :drool:
Boring question, are you hitting anywhere near the suggested fuel consumption figures and is it noticeably cheaper to run than your previous fleet, especially the MK5?
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Cheers :smiley:
The fuel consumption is much better than the ED30. I managed a lifetime average of 18.7 mpg in that and the Polo GTI is currently averaging 31 mpg even with my heavy right foot and on a run gets close to 50 mpg. :happy2:
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Cheers :smiley:
The fuel consumption is much better than the ED30. I managed a lifetime average of 18.7 mpg in that and the Polo GTI is currently averaging 31 mpg even with my heavy right foot and on a run gets close to 50 mpg. :happy2:
:jumping: Wow thats awesome fuel economy John.
These baby Gti's are getting more and more and more appealing………..and your thread isn't helping me at all. :ashamed:
I think it is inevitable that I will have one early next year :wink:
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I second Hurdy's fuel consumption of 31mpg witha stock Polo GTI. Hurdy, is that fuel consumption for your tuned Polo or before while the car was still stock ?
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That is as it stands now. As stock it was 33mpg average.
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Been a bit lax in keeping this thread up to date :ashamed:
Went to Elsecar mega meet and cleaned the car and then finished with the DA polisher followed by a good waxing and the result was this.....
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Nice pics there John, Car looks great :happy2: Didn't manage to make it there this year.
How do you find the Polo compared to the Edition 30, now that you've had it a while?
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The Polo is great. Nowhere near as fast as the Golf after 90mph, but otherwise it could hold it's own. On a track I'd say there wouldn't be much in it too. I also prefer the exterior styling. :love:
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Did u ever make a comparison between stock and mapped for a normal driving ? (cruising at 50-70mph). Some say at these speeds the mapped car's mpg should be better !
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I never had the chance as the car was mapped very soon after I bought it. For the performance of the car the fuel consumption is very good indeed. :smiley:
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I never had the chance as the car was mapped very soon after I bought it. For the performance of the car the fuel consumption is very good indeed. :smiley:
No $#!t John... It's amazing :congrats:
I'm 99% sure, my next motor will be a Polo Gti.
I can't tell you how many times I've looked at this thread :notworthy:
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Carlo needs to here your car John, I was telling him how nice it sounds :happy2:
Darren
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You can't get rid of the golf Carlo :scared: :sad:
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Carlo needs to here your car John, I was telling him how nice it sounds :happy2:
Darren
Yeah, it sounds better than any MKV Golf GTI :innocent:
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Was nice to meet you at Statllers Thursday the car looked really well
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Car is looking very nice matey :happy2:
Keep up the good progress :smiley:
Ben
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Cheers guys :smiley:
Seeing your S3 Phil made me hankering for something more powerful again. I need to overcome these feelings and keep on track though! :rolleye:
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Cheers guys :smiley:
Seeing your S3 Phil made me hankering for something more powerful again. I need to overcome these feelings and keep on track though! :rolleye:
Mines staying standard till the Polo R!! :happy2:
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Cheers guys :smiley:
Seeing your S3 Phil made me hankering for something more powerful again. I need to overcome these feelings and keep on track though! :rolleye:
Mines staying standard till the Polo R!! :happy2:
There may be a lot of parts getting swapped off mine if the Polo .:R gets a green light. :wink:
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Decided today to buy some Okada plasma coil packs. Primarily a precautionary purchase as the 1.4 TSI engine is known for misfires, so these should help stop any that may occur. I've not suffered any to date, so these are a decent option to keep them at bay. I know some of the Vagoc crew rate them even though they are expensive. The theory is that the TSI injectors are very close to the plug in these engines and the misfires are due to the fuel overwhelming the plugs. This is why the shorter NGK plugs help and are recommended by Revo. A stronger spark will also help ensure a spark isn't overwhelmed and so no misfires. :happy2:
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Did you get them through Dan, John? I'm looking at getting some later this year too.
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Did you get them through Dan, John? I'm looking at getting some later this year too.
No, ordered through Steve at Statllers :happy2: Along with...........225 section R888's :evilgrin:
Can Dan get hold of them faster/cheaper?
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Dan is / will soon be able to supply at a good rate. The 888s were outstanding on the dry Trackday :driver:
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Bought some Okada plasma coilpacks last week.
What can I say apart from they do exactly what it says on the tin.
Fitted these today and my word they make a difference.
i. Smoother idle
ii. much perkier at the top of the rev range
Okada quote the following for these coilpacks....
i. Up to 6% more hp
ii. Up to 6% more torque
iii. Faster spool up/throttle response
iv. Reduced fuel consumption
v. Lower emissions
vi. smoother idle
Also in the 1.4TSI they help eliminate potential misfires too by giving a much stronger spark that simply cannot be overwhelmed by the injectors.
I fitted them myself in 15 mins and they just work!
I'll be swapping back to the stock coilpacks at some point for back to back dyno runs to see if they do give any extra oomph, but the car certainly feels better and it isn't just the "bum dyno"
They aren't cheap though, but for me they are worth every penny.
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Glad to hear you've benefited.
I'm waitin on an upcoming b2b dyno session on the ko4 Tfsi but so far the only opinion I've had it car starts instantly when cold not much other difference felt (teff ko4)
I'm seriously considering them but want to see proven improvements and find out about reliability & warranty
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Glad to hear you've benefited.
I'm waitin on an upcoming b2b dyno session on the ko4 Tfsi but so far the only opinion I've had it car starts instantly when cold not much other difference felt (teff ko4)
I'm seriously considering them but want to see proven improvements and find out about reliability & warranty
Just get them Mike, you'll not regret it. :happy2:
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At lowdown on Wednesday John? I might have to
steal them take a look!
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Yes I will be popping down. Only 15 mins from me and it is my day off as well :jumpmove:
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Nice example of the new polo gti.
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Went to GTI International today, very wet, very busy and as soon as it stopped raining I used my 4 run passes down the strip.
Best time of the morning was 14.02 with a 5.49 second 0-60. Not as good as I'd hoped, but the surface was very wet and add to that the DSG torque limiter cutting in, it wasn't too bad.
I must say that I enjoyed the handling course more than the sprint. Ended up with a 40.07 second run. The guy on the stand taking down the time told me beforehand that anywhere near to 40 seconds was excellent. The guys on the stand with track prepped cars and racing tyres were managing 39.6 to 39.7, so I was well impressed with the car. However, the guy from Bilstein said if I had set the car up on full hard with the damping then the car would have been just as good as the track cars!!
Bodes well for the next trackday. :smiley:
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Glad you enjoyed the handling circuit John, great to see that your pace is right up there with the top cars!
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The Polo is looking good John. :happy2:
And look forward to your future plans also :wink:
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Cheers guys. :happy2:
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Sounds like the pole is going well :congrats:
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A few more pics.
LowdownVW meet this month
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Trip to Ladybower reservoir
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The Okada Plasma Coilpacks in place
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Are they a direct fit john, or some wiring / loom fettling to do?
On the Xmas list...
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they are a direct fit mike. Not a cheap mod though, and probably not need on the TFSi.
The 1.4TSI hjowever has misfire issues. I'm currently running BKR9EIX plugs with a very small spark plug gap to stop the misfires. Using these plugs mean Id be able to increase the spar plug gap and still maintain a stronger spark which means a much stronger cylinder burn. I think there is a set going on mine very soon.
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As Sy says, probably not needed on the 2 litre unless you are called TEFF!
Big benefits for the little 1.4TSi engine though. :happy2:
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Forgot to mention. If you are running WMI on the 2.0TFSi then there is an advantage to having the Okada Coilpacks as it helps with a more complete burn in the cylinder.
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Nice job :congrats:
About the coilpacks... can you guys give an estimation on the price?
About the missfire issues, I am currently doing some investigation on this (for my 1.4 tsi engine). I think the best way to go is to have the engine checked preferably with a device that does not require you to strip the engine apart. I changed the coils, spark plugs (NGK Iridium), diverter valve (I had an older version), N75 valve (again an older version) but that did not solve the missfire issue.
From what I heard the missfire issues can be caused by a number of factors. First you might want to check for deposits on the valves preventing them from closing properly (a common issue on FSI engines) or the timing belt.
I have had some testing with the oscilloscope but the tests are not yet finished.
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PM'd you Rex :happy2:
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in general i think the polo GTI looks kinda gay, bit of a girls car :jumping:
seen yours at inters and fell in love with it, goes to show what a few mods can do :happy2:
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in general i think the polo GTI looks kinda gay, bit of a girls car :jumping:
seen yours at inters and fell in love with it, goes to show what a few mods can do :happy2:
It was bought originally with the wife in mind. I just ended up hijacking it and twisting it to my own evil ways! :evilgrin:
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It was bought originally with the wife in mind. I just ended up hijacking it and twisting it to my own evil ways! :evilgrin:
....As you would with any female, John?
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Been a while since I have been on the forum, and the first post I looked for was to see what you were tinkering with now. :laugh:
As usual, a superb build and a fantastic car John. :love:
The DSG Remap should make a massive difference, we recently acquired the latest equipment to do all the new DSG boxes in South Africa and the guys are loving these little Polo's.
Enjoy the wee bugger John! :signLOL:
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micsta, more intelligent DSG is indeed what this car needs even more than engine power boosting !
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I can't disagree there!
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Couldn't agree more! :happy2:
The software seems to make quite a difference though, I have not had the pleasure of working on the Polo myself but we have done a few Golf R's and RS3's. :evilgrin:
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Playtime on the GTI International handling course. I appear to be actually concentrating!! :laugh:
Si from Loba took these of me having a little playtime. :driver:
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What actually happened.....
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It went though my mind lol. Good effort nick haha
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I accidentally hit the "Knightrider" pursuit mode! :signLOL:
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Classic :happy2:
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:grin:
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What actually happened.....
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:congrats: beat me too it :notworthy:
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....Launch Control on the quarter-mile - John Hurdy style!!
So, how did it improve your 0-60, John?
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....Launch Control on the quarter-mile - John Hurdy style!!
So, how did it improve your 0-60, John?
It was all about getting the altitude right Robin :wink:
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Anyway, I got a phone all today from Eibach HQ, turns out that me and the little Polo only went and got the 3rd fastest time of the weekend on the handling course. :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :star: :pomppomp:
Won a £200 voucher so I've ordered the front ARB :happy2:
So next month I'll be in the VWDriver magazine twice!
Statllers did well, Fastest 2 Porsches of the weekend, fastest RS6 and 2nd fastest MKV on the strip AMD mine on the handling course. :notworthy:
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How many porsches were there. Presumably more than 2 lol
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How many porsches were there. Presumably more than 2 lol
Yes there were a few there on Sunday, don't know how many on Saturday though. Statllers only came on Saturday. :smiley:
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It was good to catch up with you on Sunday John and to see the pocket rocket in action :smiley: saw it go down the strip a couple of times :happy2:
After seeing yours though, i've now been looking at Polo GTI's :grin:
Congrats on coming 3rd on the handling course :happy2:
Keep up the awesome progress,
Ben
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Nice one speedy! :congrats:
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Cheers Fella's :happy2:
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nicely done Hurdy,
now next time try the bilsteins on a any setting other than soft? :P
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nicely done Hurdy,
now next time try the bilsteins on a any setting other than soft? :P
:ashamed:
Yep, could have been faster on the hard settings. :sad1: :laugh:
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Love the work you,ve done John since we last met. As you,ve said low 13,s should be achievable once the DSG is sorted. I see i,m now officially dethroned, bout time :notworthy:
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nicely done Hurdy,
now next time try the bilsteins on a any setting other than soft? :P
:ashamed:
Yep, could have been faster on the hard settings. :sad1: :laugh:
Steady, he needs to look after those old bones. :wink:
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nicely done Hurdy,
now next time try the bilsteins on a any setting other than soft? :P
:ashamed:
Yep, could have been faster on the hard settings. :sad1: :laugh:
Steady, he needs to look after those old bones. :wink:
Too right :rolleye:
Love the work you,ve done John since we last met. As you,ve said low 13,s should be achievable once the DSG is sorted. I see i,m now officially dethroned, bout time :notworthy:
Fingers crossed. Glad to see you are still tuning in and not just running with the 2 wheels less brigade! :wink:
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Just sat and read through the complete build.
Absolutely love what you have done in a very logical manner.
I may have to take a look at a Polo and keep the '30 for special days.
Brilliant made my day.
J
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Just sat and read through the complete build.
Absolutely love what you have done in a very logical manner.
I may have to take a look at a Polo and keep the '30 for special days.
Brilliant made my day.
J
Cheers J wanna buy it. I'm looking for an .:R :laugh:
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Not sure I can afford it but I cant afford the golf so let me know.......!
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John, did you buy the VAG specific Devils Own kit?
http://www.methanol-injection.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=55
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Yep, that looks like the one :happy2: Needs a bottle with that kit too.
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I bought the Labonte one from Rubber Toe but it is probably going on a friends car.
This is the way forward for safe power IMHO.
Cheers John.
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Bit of an update.
Had a play with the car on Statllers Dyno today and it made 220WHP!!!
For everyone in the UK that works out at 255bhp. Not too bad to say the Polo still hasn't been fully tuned to the hybrid turbo. Two runs also gave over 257bhp, but the dyno operator held off the accelerator pedal to avoid kick down and so the torque curves were lower. The one below was the best combination of bhp and torque.
The car is running silky smooth at the moment and the overall mods have produced a lovely motor. 8)
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That is very impressive for a 1.4.
You need to keep it when you get the 'R'
J
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Nice and smooth torque curve.
Have you thought about getting the DSG reprogrammed to disable kick down?
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Nice and smooth torque curve.
Have you thought about getting the DSG reprogrammed to disable kick down?
I don't think it's that easy on the 7 speed dry clutch boxes. :wink:
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Nice and smooth torque curve.
Have you thought about getting the DSG reprogrammed to disable kick down?
Not available in the uk yet. Soon though, soon. :wink:
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torque curve are looking very good there john. Should keep the limits below the torque limiters on the DSG as well
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Is it the same as the Pirelli and later models where it was/is difficult to map the dsg due to a change in the VW software?
Or have they got round that now.
Nice and smooth torque curve.
Have you thought about getting the DSG reprogrammed to disable kick down?
Not available in the uk yet. Soon though, soon. :wink:
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Is it the same as the Pirelli and later models where it was/is difficult to map the dsg due to a change in the VW software?
Or have they got round that now.
Nice and smooth torque curve.
Have you thought about getting the DSG reprogrammed to disable kick down?
Not available in the uk yet. Soon though, soon. :wink:
There are a couple of companies who have cracked the coding for the 7 speed DSG, so it shouldn't take long to filter through to the UK now. :happy2:
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Apologies if I've missed something, but are you after an R now John?
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Apologies if I've missed something, but are you after an R now John?
He mentioned it on the Loba thread.
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Still looking, but want to finish this first, so no rush. If I find a perfect spec one then it will be mine :smiley:
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Still looking, but want to finish this first, so no rush. If I find a perfect spec one then it will be mine :smiley:
Good choice, I'd love one!
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Still looking, but want to finish this first, so no rush. If I find a perfect spec one then it will be mine :smiley:
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I'm afraid you have a long wait ahead of you :signLOL:
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Still looking, but want to finish this first, so no rush. If I find a perfect spec one then it will be mine :smiley:
Good choice, I'd love one!
Me too. :happy2:
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:grin:
Cheers fella's, I'm going old school and fitting a manual boost controller :evilgrin: Many, many logs will be taken to ensure I don't burn holes in my pistons :scared: :laugh:
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get an r32 and go down the turbo route looks like you have a fair bit money to spend on cars so that shouldnt be a problem lol cant beleive how quick this car is for a 1.4
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get an r32 and go down the turbo route looks like you have a fair bit money to spend on cars so that shouldnt be a problem lol cant beleive how quick this car is for a 1.4
The next project is already forming in my head, just want to finish this one first. :happy2:
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Little update.....
Did a few runs today to log EGT's and lambda..
EGT's not pushing over 840oC = good.
Lambda on full throttle runs is 0.828 = also good.
Means there is some leaway to push things further, so by the end of this week I should have more powwwweeerrrrrrrr!!!!! :evilgrin:
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John did I read on here that your insurance is set to a maximum power so you can basically do what you want within reason?
Can you let me know who that is with?
Here or PM whichever is appropriate.
Justin
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I'm with Adrian Flux. I just notify them of any changes up to my power limit........may have to revise that power limit now as it was 250bhp IIRC!!
Any amendments need to be told the Insurer though as normal. :happy2:
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Thanks John.
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Well things have gone well with the new mod on board. The car has been thoroughly logged and is happy and without a hint of any misfires. The turbo is strong at the top end and the car feels great from 5.5k rpm to the redline. The turbo will hold 2.0 bar all the way to the redline, but for longevity the turbo is backed off to 1.6 bar at the redline. This compares with 1.33 bar peak that Revo asks for on the stock turbo at stage 2 that drops to 1.3 bar at the redline. The main thing is that EGT'S and AFR are well within safe parameters.
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Tested the car out at Blyton Park this weekend. Lovely little track with plenty of off-track run-offs if you get over exhuberant with the throttle out of corners :evilgrin: The Polo performed very well indeed and ate up plenty of other cars on track during the day. There were some downsides to the day........
1. My car wasn't the fastest :sad1:
2. The car definitely needs an oil cooler as temps were over 130oC when the WMI ran out on one session.
3. The car has inordinate thirst for Water Methanol - I took over 10 litres of the stuff and was down to the last litre when I left. :rolleye:
The upsides were.......
1. The Federal 595RSR's were really great on track - I doubt if tyres at £50 a corner dearer would perform any better. They didn't wear too much and didn't go "chewy" like some of the softer compound tyres do.
2. The car handles very well - for a change I set the car up on the damping to full hard as the track is absolutely flat, although hitting some of the corner strips did induce spinal shock! :laugh:
3. The car is fast on track too, and I mean faster than my Ed30 would have been, especially in cornering.
Here is a video that one of the guys took on the day. You briefly see my car storming past at around 1'45" and again lapping him at 9'35"
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John, how are you getting on with the WMI on a daily basis?
Is it a case of fill it up when you fill the petrol up or is it better than that.
Do you think the spare wheel well on the Polo is deeper than the Golf?
Where have you relocated your tools, pump and puncture repair gunk to?
If you run out of Meth I guess distilled water is ok without Meth?
Alex has said he can wire it in so when low level comes on it, I think, cuts the N75 so I guess just wastegate boost. Is that something you have done?
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Oh and where do you buy the Meth from?
Is it Methanol 'General use'?
http://www.reagent.co.uk/methanol
And Distilled water only yes?
So I would have to buy an RO unit for under the sink?
Sorry John, I am just making sure its the right thing, but the 25WHP you quoted in another post is appealing.
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The WMI is running great for daily use.
I bought my Methanol from Wessex chemicals. They will supply in bulk and I bought 99.98% pure Methanol grade.
http://www.wessexchemicalfactors.co.uk/contact.php
Distilled water is best (and a must use in hard water areas), however I live in a soft water area, so can filter and boil my water, which makes it just as good as distilled as long as I use it regularly.....which I do.
On a day to day basis the WMI is used at the rate of 4 litres for every tank of fuel on my car. On your car I'd reckon on 5litres per tank as your fuel tank is 2.7 gallons bigger than mine. On track you would use much more. I took 10 litres to my last trackday and used 9.
The spare wheel well is much deeper on the Polo as I can still have my tools in the well, the race battery AND the WMI bottle. Water is okay to use without the meth too as it will still give you better cooling.
The bottle can be wired in with a sensor to detect low levels and can be linked up to wherever you want it. From the low level sensor on the screenwash to the N75. I currently don't have a sensor as I'm not tuned for WMI, so if it runs out the car will run as normal......just with less power.
The bottle I have installed is a 3litre bottle, but I'd suggest either a gallon bottle or even their 10 litre bottle that is baffled for track use. The bigger the bottle, the less often you need to fill it, but the heavier it is when full! a bit of a trade off.
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Thanks again John.
I will probably have it mapped upto it tbh.
Not sure if Alex said I can turn the wick right up on the timing.
I just need to find out how drivable with wastegate actuator boost.
Thanks again.
Justin
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I suppose it will have to be stored in a metal fire proof cabinet?
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I suppose it will have to be stored in a metal fire proof cabinet?
Its advisable to mix it down straight away and stored outside of your property.
Could incorporate a override switch, so that when you do run out, you can return settings to 99ron and not have to run wastegate pressures
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Mine is stored in its own housing, separate to anything else and the door has the red flammable label on it. :smiley:
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Brilliant John.
Ill buy a fire proof cabinet for outside.
J
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The Polo GTI is now up for sale in the cars for sale section.
Decided I need 500 bhp. :evilgrin:
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Golf R?
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PSML.... so golf R and LOBA blower then?
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Yep!
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Is it gonna take as long as TEFFs car?
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:signLOL:
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Is it gonna take as long as TEFFs car?
I hope not... it will never ever see a piece of tarmac! :popcornsoda:
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knew you would have to scratch that itch :signLOL:
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The plan is to get it done before the end of the RWYB season and get it down for a sub 12 second run........that's the plan anyway :rolleye:
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I guess the limits of the dsg mapping and heat build up problems and misfires on the 1.4tsi is the reason your jumping ship. Back to the awesome 2.0tfsi which it would seem you can throw anything at it and it just takes it :love:
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I guess the limits of the dsg mapping and heat build up problems and misfires on the 1.4tsi is the reason your jumping ship. Back to the awesome 2.0tfsi which it would seem you can throw anything at it and it just takes it :love:
Not really. The DSG is limiting the power at the moment, but once there is a map out for it ( there is already two out) the car would be freed up to run more power and wouldn't produce any more heat with it as it is simply pulling back the timing now, but still producing the boost and hence the heat. I personally haven't had any misfires on my car and even before the Okada coilpacks and wmi I didn't have any misfires at stage 2 before the Loba was fitted. The fact I ran the car in as it should be and not how VW says it should be plus having the car mapped by Revo after running in is probably the main reason for this.
Once a DSG map is available this car will be low 13's on the strip without a doubt and circa 270-280bhp and 270-280lbft.
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Nice one John, GLWS! :drinking:
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GLWS :drinking:
I look forward to reading your next build thread :evilgrin:
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The car is being put back to stock and I've agreed a PX against a lovely low mileage Golf .:R 5dr DSG
Details and new thread to follow. :happy2:
*Now where's that parts list I made out for an .:R* :evilgrin:
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:popcornsoda:
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The car is being put back to stock and I've agreed a PX against a lovely low mileage Golf .:R 5dr DSG
Details and new thread to follow. :happy2:
*Now where's that parts list I made out for an .:R* :evilgrin:
3dr, 3dr, 3dr! :evilgrin:
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The car is being put back to stock and I've agreed a PX against a lovely low mileage Golf .:R 5dr DSG
Details and new thread to follow. :happy2:
*Now where's that parts list I made out for an .:R* :evilgrin:
3dr, 3dr, 3dr! :evilgrin:
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Nice one John! :party:
Colour?
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Not white! :grin:
I'll get some pics up tomorrow. :happy2:
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:popcornsoda:
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:popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:
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:worthless:
:popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:
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It's tomorrow John. :laugh:
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....and the wait moves to day 2.........
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Sorry guys :ashamed:
These are the only pics I have at the moment of my car as I'm not picking it up until my private reg has been taken off the Polo and I have the new V5C document, which is about 2 weeks. :smiley:
A bit more detail......
The car is obviously Steel Grey (edit for Steve P) :wink:
5 door
has 5.5k miles on the clock.
1 previous owner from new who chopped it in as his wife was expecting/just had twins.
The car has Satnav, phone prep, Dynaudio speaker upgrade, front and rear parking sensors (for the missis! :laugh:) leather, and even a rare option of a sunroof. I know this car is never going to be the lightest car, so an extra kg or two for a sunroof ain't going to matter too much. 19" talladega alloys (will get chopped for some 18's). The only extra's I would have liked was the ACC and cruise, but the former can be fixed with Bilstein's and the latter is an easy fix. :happy2:
I've already ordered a few bits :wink:
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That's steel grey :P
Still an awesome looking car :notworthy: :notworthy:
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^^^^
Looks more like a silver in those photos.
But very handsome in either case :happy2:
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Sounds good John.
Sad to see you selling the Polo, but on the positive note, ive got some bargain OKADA coil packs out of it :laugh:
Will be good to see a big turbo Golf R knocking about. If Keith managed a 12.2 with a stage 2+ Golf R, i dread to think what sort of time you could manage with an extra 100Hp!!
I'm presuming you have gone for DSG as well?
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Sounds good John.
Sad to see you selling the Polo, but on the positive note, ive got some bargain OKADA coil packs out of it :laugh:
Will be good to see a big turbo Golf R knocking about. If Keith managed a 12.2 with a stage 2+ Golf R, i dread to think what sort of time you could manage with an extra 100Hp!!
I'm presuming you have gone for DSG as well?
I still love the Polo and if I could have convinced my better half to have it I would have. I guess her loss is everyone else's gain who buys the parts off it :grin:
I've been told that 11's at the strip with a Loba L04XX is basically a given, but I'm not counting my chickens yet.
Yes, it is a DSG....you need to sharpen your investigative skills Sy......see pic 3 of the car. :signLOL:
Really tempted by Nicks CCW forged alloys, they are a bit tasty.......and very light.
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should be a cool project! :happy2:
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cant see the pics mate, they wont load up on my internet connection :P
Mike should have that money for yoyu now mate. i transfered it about an hour ago :happy2:
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cant see the pics mate, they wont load up on my internet connection :P
....Hurdy also wrote that it was DSG in his post, Sy :P
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I breezed over it, saw loads of popcorn pictures and then just asked instead of reading. You see it was much quicker and easier on my part :innocent:
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cant see the pics mate, they wont load up on my internet connection :P
Mike should have that money for yoyu now mate. i transfered it about an hour ago :happy2:
Ahh, forgot about the poor internet you have over there :ashamed:
That's great. I'm going to take a few bits off the car this morning, so I'll see about swapping the coilpacks too. :happy2:
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Looks very nice John. Be interesting to see where you end up with this one. :evilgrin:
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Looks very nice John. Be interesting to see where you end up with this one. :evilgrin:
I've started a new thread now Ian, so I'm expecting plenty of ideas and links for carbon stuff going in there. :laugh:
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Very Nice John
Health to enjoy :happy2:
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Hurdy's new project thread on his funny coloured Golf R: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52245.0.html
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Hurdy's new project thread on his funny coloured Golf R: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52245.0.html
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Oi! what's funny about it? :P
Cheers for the linky Robin. :smiley:
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Hurdy's new project thread on his funny coloured Golf R: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52245.0.html
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Oi! what's funny about it? :P
....Well, what colour is it? - You say it's Carbon Grey but it doesn't look like the Ed35's Carbon Grey. SteveP says it's Steel Grey but I think he needs to go to Specsavers. And the pics give it a strong bias towards a silver. IMO.
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Hurdy's new project thread on his funny coloured Golf R: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52245.0.html
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Oi! what's funny about it? :P
....Well, what colour is it? - You say it's Carbon Grey but it doesn't look like the Ed35's Carbon Grey. SteveP says it's Steel Grey but I think he needs to go to Specsavers. And the pics give it a strong bias towards a silver. IMO.
I hate to say it :wink:, but SteveP is right. The dealer spec list has it as Steel Grey. :happy2:
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Those pics really don't make it look like the Mk5 GTI's Steel Grey - Have they been Photshop'd or enhanced at all? A dealer's spec list isn't always to be trusted.
United Grey Metallic?
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Those pics really don't make it look like the Mk5 GTI's Steel Grey - Have they been Photshop'd or enhanced at all? A dealer's spec list isn't always to be trusted.
United Grey Metallic?
Photoplopped as I took out the reg no and tweaked the contrast. :happy2:
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Ok, so my money is on it being United Grey Metallic. Whatever shade it is called, it looks extremely nice and suits the R bodywork very well. I'm not jealous! If I had yours I'd have red wheels on it (and still have my VW05 RED plate on it). As it is I can only fantasise!
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Ok, so my money is on it being United Grey Metallic. Whatever shade it is called, it looks extremely nice and suits the R bodywork very well. I'm not jealous! If I had yours I'd have red wheels on it (and still have my VW05 RED plate on it). As it is I can only fantasise!
Hmmm, red wheels, wonder of it would be okay with the calipers?
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Oooh now that looks tasty! :drool:
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Oooh now that looks tasty! :drool:
....Of course it does (apart from some of the body graphics) - You should know I'm a gentleman of wealth and taste, John!
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I think this can carry it off.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_FoXyvaPSnVk%2FSouPCPDP6-I%2FAAAAAAAB92Q%2FNnit3zuzSIg%2Fs800%2F2010-Porsche-911-GT3-RS-0.jpg&hash=5f09dd04a473961a24c663440e7f2ee31b3d8f4c)
Not sure if it works on a Golf.
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You haz cash monies John :happy2: Just let me know you Recieved it okay. :happy2:
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You haz cash monies John :happy2: Just let me know you Recieved it okay. :happy2:
Will do when home :happy2: