Too expensive for what it is, go for the ITG :happy2:
The market should be competitive, otherwise they can charge what they want and the consumer cant barter for discount. Think awesome GTI and other APR dealers will have access to this range as well though.
You might be correct Steve but I think it's more about companies like itg/apr wanting to be apart of a brand that is Vw racing and develop products together for the Vw group and our cars and this gives Vw racing some control over a product both parties help make together as a team.
Awful news, does this mean goodbye to the Maxogen kit?
Too expensive for what it is, go for the ITG :happy2:
Too expensive for what it is, go for the ITG :happy2:
Too expensive for what it is, go for the ITG :happy2:
So instead of a Closed box design you prefer the look of the Blue Peter toilet roll with your grannies clunge sponge stuck on the end?? :grin:
Just wondering if anyone had one of these kits & want to hear there comments on this kit...im choosing between the forge twintake & this kit
So instead of a Closed box design you prefer the look of the Blue Peter toilet roll with your grannies clunge sponge stuck on the end?? :grin:
:signLOL: That's a wonderful description! However, it does deliver good bhp numbers.
Too expensive for what it is, go for the ITG :happy2:
So instead of a Closed box design you prefer the look of the Blue Peter toilet roll with your grannies clunge sponge stuck on the end?? :grin:
So instead of a Closed box design you prefer the look of the Blue Peter toilet roll with your grannies clunge sponge stuck on the end?? :grin:
:signLOL: That's a wonderful description! However, it does deliver good bhp numbers.
Yes good numbers but its awfull to look at, its like having a GF who is amazing in bed but absolutely minging to look at, do I dont I?
So instead of a Closed box design you prefer the look of the Blue Peter toilet roll with your grannies clunge sponge stuck on the end?? :grin:
:signLOL: That's a wonderful description! However, it does deliver good bhp numbers.
Yes good numbers but its awfull to look at, its like having a GF who is amazing in bed but absolutely minging to look at, do I dont I?
But if you had a GF who was awesome in bed you could keep her hidden in the bedroom. If you have an ITG Maxogen, it stays hidden in the engine bay
:signLOL: I am the only person who runs one of these intakes?!??! It always causes so much debate.
But I will say I have popped the bonnet open and showed it to the parents as it is quite pretty :grin:
I wouldn't do that with an ugly one! :happy2:
:signLOL: I am the only person who runs one of these intakes?!??! It always causes so much debate.
But I will say I have popped the bonnet open and showed it to the parents as it is quite pretty :grin:
I wouldn't do that with an ugly one! :happy2:
:signLOL: I am the only person who runs one of these intakes?!??! It always causes so much debate.
But I will say I have popped the bonnet open and showed it to the parents as it is quite pretty :grin:
I wouldn't do that with an ugly one! :happy2:
You are not alone mate,I might be the 2nd one running this intake...
No I think there are hundreds of people running it, personally prefer the closed box designs myself, she might not be as good in bed but she certainly is a lot better to look at :signLOL:
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Well, we all know I'm a bit different, Thor, but....
I do look at the 'mantel piece' (among other things) while stoking the fire.
or are playing "Pull a Pig" with your mates!
or are playing "Pull a Pig" with your mates!
is that a challenge :laugh:
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Jeeeze! This is waaaay off topic!
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Jeeeze! This is waaaay off topic!
Not really, the VWR intake is "Pretty" but has a "Pig" of a price :signLOL:
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Jeeeze! This is waaaay off topic!
Not really, the VWR intake is "Pretty" but has a "Pig" of a price :signLOL:
.... :laugh: You sound just like me! :happy2:
Called VWR HQ to get a quote on the intake...£456inc vat but out of stock...
Maybe a group buy can be organised if anyone intreasted
Called VWR HQ to get a quote on the intake...£456inc vat but out of stock...
Maybe a group buy can be organised if anyone intreasted
Called VWR HQ to get a quote on the intake...£456inc vat but out of stock...
Maybe a group buy can be organised if anyone intreasted
i could ask if you want?
I also notice that revo/stasis are going to release CAI soon but there is not much info.
AndyED30 - have you been able to compare the noise level of this intake with any of the others - twintake / ITG? I am after one that sounds good at WOT and noticable but not loud! From reports the ITG is loud and the twintake I am not sure - some say loud and some say quieter than the ITG. Tempted by this one I must say and its a shame the wintake is not availble from Forge in the uk.
Tempted by this one I must say and its a shame the wintake is not availble from Forge in the uk.
AndyED30 - have you been able to compare the noise level of this intake with any of the others - twintake / ITG? I am after one that sounds good at WOT and noticable but not loud! From reports the ITG is loud and the twintake I am not sure - some say loud and some say quieter than the ITG. Tempted by this one I must say and its a shame the wintake is not availble from Forge in the uk.
Mat ED30 - cheers for sorting an email to vwr - will watch with interest for the response.
The ITG is without doubt louder than the Twintake IMO. Ive had the ITG personally and ive heard the twintake on a few cars. I also had the APRs Golf R which runs this VWR intake and in all honesty i didnt realise there was an intake fitted until i had a look. No big whooshes or darth vader noises etc. Im not sure how much of the engine noise is attributed to the intake or the exhaust but i was pretty impressed by its quieter operation.
....The VWR intake being much quieter than my Twintake would be a disappointment and deal breaker in my case.
....The VWR intake being much quieter than my Twintake would be a disappointment and deal breaker in my case.
Dont get me wrong its not silent. Its just quieter than the ITG MAxogen.
Same went with the cat back exhaust. Was great for the first week, but after that it irritated me.
Can't wait to get hold of a vwr intake as soon as they are back in stock.
Keith seen a 30whp gain on his golf R over standard intake
Group buy would be nice as there seems to be a few interested!
Anybody have any idea roughly how much 'almost realistic' might be?? :rolleye:
Same went with the cat back exhaust. Was great for the first week, but after that it irritated me.
You didn't mention that when you sold it to me :grin: In fairness, it is also as I expected it to be but I am also getting a bit tired of it now.
Failing that APR are releasing a new fully carbon fibred intake soon for the TFSi which looks and will be priced almost the same as the TSI version out now.
I'd be interested in a GB too (for a TSI intake) if the price was rightFailing that APR are releasing a new fully carbon fibred intake soon for the TFSi which looks and will be priced almost the same as the TSI version out now.
Aren't these just the carbonio intakes??? http://www.goapr.com/products/intake_carbonio_20tsi.html (http://www.goapr.com/products/intake_carbonio_20tsi.html) . I didn't think they were known to have the better performance gains of many of the intakes
Cheers Matt :happy2:
I will be looking for an intake before mid-July and expect the APR to be a while after that if it is planned for end of July in the US....
...so if a GB on the VWR can be arranged, I'd be very interested.
Edit: Has anyone PM'd Keith@APR on here to get a better idea of expected date to the UK market?
So what is the current retail price for the VWR induction kit for a Mk5?
I see Awesome are still advertising a Mk6 kit under the ITG brand for £270 which doesn't seem too bad (although I am comparing to say a Mk5 Twintake at £400 which may not be a fair comparison)
Edit: Just found tat the RRP's £456 inc.vat from VWR's site - that's a shocker! :scared:
I will be interested if anyone can show real-worl gains on similar dyno set-ups between ITG's closed filter and that for the single-canister Wintake and VWR.
understandable on the maf readings but does the ecu not read this / correct ?
Wouldnt the neuspeed which is around £180-£200 just as good as this vwr kit ?
The principle is getting air to the turbo / shortest route the better!
Looking at the VWR's design in photos it appears to be extremely well considered but from a sales point of view, where does the VWR intake fit into the market?
To cover R&D for a start.
The 2 cara you used as a example are both old cars with old tech.
End of the day I know they cost a lotmof money but the product has shown gains and people will buy it
I dont think R & D is anything to do with it, the price does not decrease as the R & D is paid for does it? :P (Like TV's and new electrical goods), I agree getting the MAF scaling is to do with R & D the rest is to do with marketing and what they can charge and get away with, it's more likely like the Re-maps, it's proven that people will pay for it especially if it has a brand name attached to it that people know/like :grin:, this is more marketing than R & D.
If a product from company A isprovedshown to give 15bhp and the product from B isprovedshown to give 17-19 bhp they can price it how they like :signLOL: as the willy wavers will be all over it :popcornsoda:
Personally I agree that most of them are over-priced for what they are, it is part of the reason I did not buy one of the mainstream high priced products available.
APR's latest claim of 30bhp on the Golf R seems a little high to me, Its easy to push the engine to the limit on std airbox and then slap on "their" new amazing product
and lo and behold its gives massive figures........... :surprised:
Hence my choice of APR over Autotech HPFP, just for example.
I dont think R & D is anything to do with it, the price does not decrease as the R & D is paid for does it? :P (Like TV's and new electrical goods), I agree getting the MAF scaling is to do with R & D the rest is to do with marketing and what they can charge and get away with, it's more likely like the Re-maps, it's proven that people will pay for it especially if it has a brand name attached to it that people know/like :grin:, this is more marketing than R & D.
If a product from company A isprovedshown to give 15bhp and the product from B isprovedshown to give 17-19 bhp they can price it how they like :signLOL: as the willy wavers will be all over it :popcornsoda:
Personally I agree that most of them are over-priced for what they are, it is part of the reason I did not buy one of the mainstream high priced products available.
APR's latest claim of 30bhp on the Golf R seems a little high to me, Its easy to push the engine to the limit on std airbox and then slap on "their" new amazing product
and lo and behold its gives massive figures........... :surprised:
....Oh good! That's better - Something I don't agree with you on again at last :happy2:
We can debate this until the cows come home but I do think that rather than dismiss products just because they are offered by a mainstream established company (as you seem to be doing) is unjustifiable and narrows down your options.
Personally, choosing products from a known brand gives me a lot of confidence based on what that brand represents. Hence my choice of APR over Autotech HPFP, just for example.
So who is up for a group buy some we can send the numbers to Keith?
So who is up for a group buy some we can send the numbers to Keith?
As I said in the PM get the prices from Keith first for the break points (i.e. 10, 15, 20 etc) then you can post a formal group buy.
So who is up for a group buy some we can send the numbers to Keith?
As I said in the PM get the prices from Keith first for the break points (i.e. 10, 15, 20 etc) then you can post a formal group buy.
Pm has been sent, just waiting for a reply :happy2:
So who is up for a group buy some we can send the numbers to Keith?
As I said in the PM get the prices from Keith first for the break points (i.e. 10, 15, 20 etc) then you can post a formal group buy.
Pm has been sent, just waiting for a reply :happy2:
Any updates on this mate..
Caller Vwr hq this morning asking about when it's back in stock,been told there will be a big batch coming but he can't give me a date as he is not sure
Spoke to the guys today, still not in stock and when the next batch lands there isn't enough for a group buy :scared:
Not sure mate, I just said to Greg money is waiting call me as soon as it's in :party: