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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: mvb12 on June 06, 2012, 12:43:58 pm

Title: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: mvb12 on June 06, 2012, 12:43:58 pm
Guys,

Would like to know what set up people with the NQSBBK are running!
 
Really interested to know which wheels people are running which require spacers and which don't, amount of clearance gone for, offsets ect.

Any pics would be desirable.
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: sub39h on June 06, 2012, 01:22:54 pm
18x8 ET44 BBS VZs, no spacers and at least 10mm of clearance

At work so will get photos up tonight
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: mvb12 on June 06, 2012, 01:58:24 pm
18x8 ET44 BBS VZs, no spacers and at least 10mm of clearance

At work so will get photos up tonight

cheers pal  :happy2:
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: berg on June 06, 2012, 02:03:31 pm
monza ii do require spacers
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: rex on June 06, 2012, 02:36:04 pm
8x17" BBS VZ 032 ET 50 (no spacers, 5-6mm of clearance)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2FP3136364.jpg&hash=965427f45c376d8670d524d5cc370ff2946a88f8)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2F16032011133.jpg&hash=d4b23949a58413f51929154c35a673fd92ead2ce)

8x17" Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 ET 45 (no spacers ~15mm of clearance)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2Fsite1_DSC_3407.jpg&hash=73e15882837670876723c98461ea2d0ea4eeac3a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2Fsite_DSC_0146.jpg&hash=5e81e3f2b8535ba45e8d1b9a048b4f6e3ee1d33b)

7,5x17" OEM Goal ET 50 (10mm spacers, 4-5mm of clearance)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2FP4176496.jpg&hash=d163003880cf95de6bba1e32c6738b4bf13d13ae)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2FP4176494.jpg&hash=d956af015a26dcb9354e98868f71f4ad8e13c799)

6,5x16 OEM Mugello ET 50 (20mm spacers, 1-2mm of clearance radially and 7-8mm of clearance for the spokes)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2FP4176490.jpg&hash=efb3c5a875f390a33b9bead1069b23768c5815d4)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2FP4176486.jpg&hash=f67ee896f02a421fee96d59d93ad065e7a927934)

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: mvb12 on June 06, 2012, 03:17:41 pm
excellent stuff and good pictures too.

quite interested in the TD alloys so no spacers on them are swaying me even more.
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: apples12 on June 06, 2012, 03:27:18 pm

7,5x17" OEM Goal ET 50 (10mm spacers, 4-5mm of clearance)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff469%2Fvladpanut%2FP4176494.jpg&hash=d956af015a26dcb9354e98868f71f4ad8e13c799)


apologies for slight off-topic...

rex, you wna sell these alloys?!
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: rex on June 06, 2012, 03:45:05 pm
Sorry mate, I sold them in the autumn.
You might want to check the volkswagen web site to see if they sell these (in Germany they are 133 EURO on their e-shop).
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: Russ_leeds on June 06, 2012, 04:47:20 pm
I have the monza 2's with a 3mm spacer (this spacer is just a temp) clearance is still very tight (1-3mm) :happy2:
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: mvb12 on June 06, 2012, 07:32:28 pm
I have the monza 2's with a 3mm spacer (this spacer is just a temp) clearance is still very tight (1-3mm) :happy2:

You got any pics mate as never seen them behind Monza II alloys.

Are you also running 3mm spacers on the rears?
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: Dan648v on June 06, 2012, 09:20:59 pm
Running my nqsbbk behind a STD ed30 pescara and a 5mm spacer
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: mvb12 on June 06, 2012, 09:34:05 pm
any pics at all?
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: Russ_leeds on June 06, 2012, 09:50:46 pm
ive got a couple on my phone of the clearance but only got a shot that you can just see the caliper
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: mvb12 on June 06, 2012, 10:09:04 pm
whats the minimum clearance that can be run
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: Russ_leeds on June 06, 2012, 11:10:03 pm
Dave B told me the smallest spacer you can run these on the monza 2 is 3mm. Im going to get some 10mm hubcentric ones after my driving holiday  :driver:
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: muckipup on June 07, 2012, 12:40:07 am
Octavia Vrs 18" Zeniths (ET50) has about 6mm clearance. Ronal R41s on 7.5j (ET45) have about 2 mm
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: muckipup on June 07, 2012, 12:42:48 am
whats the minimum clearance that can be run

Good question. I think clearance is clearance but I wish my Ronals had a bit more than 2mm. I know some folks who have put R32/S3 front calipers and had to grind them back to get a couple of mm clearance.
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on June 07, 2012, 09:54:09 am
The NQSBBK marches on, would love to merge this info with the main NQSBBK thread.

To be honest theres practically nothing from a 4 pot point of view that fits behind the 7.5" rim without a spacer. If somebody is running OEM wheels then my stock answer is a 10mm spacer is required. So its good to know we can get away with 3mm if required.

Regarding clearance, normal aerospace tolerances between fixed and rotating is 3mm, 5mm for two rotating masses.

Increase or decrease for Non OEM wheels or track days with kitty litter run off areas.

Ive had a lot of enquiries regarding the 996 Front kits that appear to be popping up on ein classifieds at the mo.

Hydraulically these are exactly the same as the NQSBBK with 36/40mm pistons, the disc is thicker at 28mm and you can increase the spacer requirement over the NQS by about 9mm. The other potential downside is weight - the whole kit is about 6kg heavier a side. it is a slightly bigger disc however for aesthetic purposes to balance the negatives things out.

Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: muckipup on June 07, 2012, 02:31:05 pm
Thanks for continuing to support us NQS BBK converts with useful info  :happy2:

I am still running my NQS BBK quite happily on an Octavia VRS and have another full NQS BBK in my garage for the new VRS that is due to arrive mid-July. Can't be a bad vote of confidence when I have the brakes before the car!  :laugh:

Dave - are you talking about the need for spacers on 4-pots other than the NQS BBK when under 7.5J width wheels or talking about 17" wheels only? I thought that plenty of 18" wheels had good clearance over the NQS BBK. The spoke design is definately a big deal when it comes to clearances even on a 7.5J width 18" wheel. The  Zenith alloys on my current Octavia will fit over them easily but the Neptune alloys on newer Octavias will not yet both are 18", 7.5J and both have an offset of ET50; my shiny new Ronal R41s are 18", 7.5J and ET45 yet have notably less clearance than the Zeniths (given that I am not 'going aerospace' with the new car, or at least, I hope not :grin: , I hope that 2mm is enough with the Ronals!).

I wish there was some kind of metric that took in to account spoke design in addition to the usual wheel size, width and offset as I would have estimated more clearance  :sad1:
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: muckipup on June 07, 2012, 08:50:57 pm
Ps Kind of strange question on this thread but does anyone know who can do sheet metal cutting cheaply. I am looking for, say, a 2 or 3mm thickness doughnut shaped disc with a 312mm diameter (anyone see where this is going yet? ) with a 202mm diameter centre hole.

I was quoted £70 + vat as that was the minimum price to program and set up the cutting; which is a bit pricey for what I want it for.

In case anyone is thinking wtf is he on about, this is for a 'masking plate' that I will place over a 312mm disc which will leave the disc bell and about 10 or 12mm exposed on the inside edge of the disc. I then use Simoniz high-temp paint to spray the disc which will cover all exposed parts of the disc including the area of the disc surface which is unswept by the pads on the NQS BBK (therefore rusts up). The Simoniz paint is powdery therefore if a little gets on the swept area, it gets brushed off by the pad.

I know, I should get out more! ;)
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: spb on February 03, 2016, 09:07:51 pm
After being not so happy with spacers  :confused: I want to get BBS CH028 which are the standard wheels in older Audi S4 18" 5x112 8j ET43. Will the NQSBBK fit without any spacers?
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: rich83 on February 03, 2016, 11:25:13 pm
No issue with using spacers, providing they are good quality ones.
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: spb on February 04, 2016, 08:47:27 am
Please quote me some good ones as small as possible to clear the NQSBBK on my Edition 30 (Rockingham - Pescara - BBS CH like standard wheels). I tried H&R 8mm hubcentric but I think were the wrong part no (162555716) since they get quoted as TT mk1.
So.. please tell me what you run without issue (brand, part no).
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: bacillus on February 04, 2016, 10:54:52 pm
Please quote me some good ones as small as possible to clear the NQSBBK on my Edition 30 (Rockingham - Pescara - BBS CH like standard wheels). I tried H&R 8mm hubcentric but I think were the wrong part no (162555716) since they get quoted as TT mk1.
So.. please tell me what you run without issue (brand, part no).

I use H&R hub centric 8mm per side spacers front and rear without issues on a mk5 gti. Part number is 1655572
Title: Re: NQSBBK Wheels And Spacers
Post by: rich83 on February 04, 2016, 11:22:29 pm
8mm H&R hubcentric... no probs.  :happy2: