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Title: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 05, 2016, 04:11:14 pm
Hi all, so I have a 56 plate gti with the very basic head unit. My assumption is this doesn't have aux or USB or anything?

I want to fit something with Bluetooth, aux, dab and maybe sd card but Bluetooth and aux are the main things. I have seen the rcd or rns option but seems like i would also have to buy a dab aerial and Cambus thing and all sorts of other bits? Is that correct?

If I didn't go oem then would something like a pioneer head unit have all the bits included or do I still need to add all the additionals?

Any help is appreciated!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on November 06, 2016, 04:37:59 pm
Depends on how much you want to spend and what features do you want.

Bare minimum is to upgrade the Canbus Gateway otherwise you will experience Battery Drain with these OEM units. You can get the 7N0 907 530 canbus gateways for about £20 uncoded or about £30-40 precoded.

Most people tend to upgrade to the European RCD510 or RNS510 stereos but it will need the additonal Bluetooth module should you want BT stream and have telephony. It also does not include any USB/AUX options by default, you will need to purchase additional wiring through where the ESP buttons are. And to make things more complicated not all RCD510/RNS510 have DAB. You can tell by looking at the back of the unit, if it has a black port then the unit has DAB. All in all the RCD510/RNS510 while one of the most aesthetically pleasing is also one of the most expensive OEM options you can buy - you'll be looking around £500+ for all the options fitted in.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhazzydayz.com%2Fekmps%2Fshops%2Fhazzydayzshop%2Fresources%2FDesign%2Fbluetooth-audio-streaming.jpg&hash=fc4397686452d73d99ffc1f3a5fe7b5619708a84)

The next option is the RNS310/RNS315, similar to the RNS510 but has a smaller screen. But the real ace in its sleeve is that it has Bluetooth as standard so you can do telephone (with the optional mic) and audio streaming out of the box, it also has an AUX port on the front so no need to purchase any additional wiring too. But again be sure to check that is has DAB as not all RNS310/RNS315 units have this. These units can cost around £200-350 ish.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvag-repair.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F07%2FRNS315.jpg&hash=00891366245935dfa8f7bb28393bd20bc823e932)

If you're not bothered about DAB or Sat Nav then you have a few more options open to you. If you're looking for an OEM unit with lots of connectivity at the lowest possible price then you can't go wrong with the RCN210. Lots of features built in for the money, Bluetooth + Mic Built-In (Telephone and A2DP Stream), CD Player, AUX, SD Card, USB and iPod Control out of the box, these units can be had and fitted for no more than £50 (I had this for a few months and its been superb). The only minor complication is that it uses the ISO interface rather than the quad lock so it needs an adaptor and additional CAN wiring from the Air Con unit to get it all working.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2nvs4qq.jpg&hash=c08ab1ed023f427ef03368427333deb07a831073)

If you want something a bit more upmarket and have a touchscreen then you can opt for the RCD330G. It has a nice updated MIB interface similar to those from the MK7 Golf and like the RCN210 has all the essentials out of the box. The RCD 330G can be had for around £100 and uses the existing Quad Lock Canbus cable. If you don't need the CD Player and fancy the bigger screen (6.5" vs 5.0") then you can opt for the RCD 330G PLUS (6RD035187A) which is what I have now, expect an extra premium of £80 on top of the standard model for this version however.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.patchysan.net%2Fimages%2FGolf%2FRCD330GPLUS_001.jpg&hash=beac1bb1e4af350fdd0336dadd677120ea69c091)

*** UPDATE - Prices have dropped dramatically for the RCD 330 PLUS making them fantastic value for money. They now can be bought for around £80 including postage from AliExpress ***

[28th Jan 17] Apple iPhone owners rejoice! A new RCD 330 PLUS (6RD035187B) has been released with Apple CarPlay integration meaning you can use your iOS apps such as Apple Maps, iTunes music via the system. Prices have now dropped and can be had for around £115 all in.

(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1BZT.PpXXXXbvXpXXq6xXFXXXq/Original-6-5-MIB-RCD510-RCD330G-Plus-187B-for-VW-Golf-5-6-Jetta-CC-Tiguan.jpg)

[22nd Nov 17] In specific markets VW has released the R340G (6RF035187C), an updated version of the B variant RCD 330 with full App-Connect functionality (Android Auto as well as Mirrorlink and Apple CarPlay) making it the most complete OEM unit you can buy with full smartphone compatibility. One store have managed to load this firmware onto the 6RD035187B units and is available for around £180 ish at time of writing, considering the CarPlay only units was around this price 10 months ago I would wait until it settles down.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golfmk6.com%2Fforums%2Fpicture.php%3Falbumid%3D1880%26amp%3Bpictureid%3D6763&hash=5eaf98df89053ed7cc56411a5c994c570cba701e)

Lastly there is the RCD 310 but unless you want DAB on the cheap then it's a bit barmy to choose this where there are better options! Like the RCD510 it requires additional modules for the Bluetooth and Media interface like AUX and USB so not a good value option if you want these features!

(https://shops.volkswagen.com/assets/MASTER_904_VWZ_OZ/en_GB/904_IPZM_1K0057186AN_ENG_001.jpg)

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: AJP on November 06, 2016, 04:54:17 pm
Depends on how much you want to spend and what features do you want.

Bare minimum is to upgrade the Canbus Gateway otherwise you will experience Battery Drain with these OEM units. You can get the 7K0 907 530 canbus gateways for about £20 uncoded or about £30-40 precoded.

Most people tend to upgrade to the European RCD510 or RNS510 stereos but it will need the additonal Bluetooth module should you want BT stream and have telephony. It also does not include any USB/AUX options by default, you will need to purchase additional wiring through where the ESP buttons are. And to make things more complicated not all RCD510/RNS510 have DAB. You can tell by looking at the back of the unit, if it has a black port then the unit has DAB. All in all the RCD510/RNS510 while one of the most aesthetically pleasing is also one of the most expensive OEM options you can buy - you'll be looking around £500+ for all the options fitted in.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs337%2FRobGTIPhotos%2F2790221427_d98f8704a3.jpg&hash=0870ab613347d62157676fea42e6214afe4af290)

The next option is the RNS310/RNS315, similar to the RNS510 but has a smaller screen. But the real ace in its sleeve is that it has Bluetooth as standard so you can do telephone (with the optional mic) and audio streaming out of the box, it also has an AUX port on the front so no need to purchase any additional wiring too. But again be sure to check that is has DAB as not all RNS310/RNS315 units have this. These units can cost around £200-350 ish.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvag-repair.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F07%2FRNS315.jpg&hash=00891366245935dfa8f7bb28393bd20bc823e932)

If you're not bothered about DAB then you have a few more options open to you. If you're looking for an OEM unit with lots of connectivity at the lowest possible price then you can't go wrong with the RCN210. Lots of features built in for the money, Bluetooth + Mic Built-In (Telephone and A2DP Stream), CD Player, AUX, SD Card, USB and iPod Control out of the box, these units can be had and fitted for no more than £50 (I had this for a few months and its been superb). The only minor complication is that it uses the ISO interface rather than the quad lock so it needs an adaptor and additional CAN wiring from the Air Con unit to get it all working.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2nvs4qq.jpg&hash=c08ab1ed023f427ef03368427333deb07a831073)

If you want something a bit more upmarket and has a touchscreen then you can opt for the RCD330G. It has a nice updated MIB interface similar to those from the MK7 Golf and like the RCN210 has all the essentials out of the box. The RCD 330G can be had for around £100 and uses the existing Quad Lock Canbus cable. If you don't need the CD Player and fancy the bigger screen (6.5" vs 5.0") then you can opt for the RCD 330G PLUS which is what I have now, expect an extra premium of £80 on top of the standard model for this version however.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.patchysan.net%2Fimages%2FGolf%2FRCD330GPLUS_001.jpg&hash=beac1bb1e4af350fdd0336dadd677120ea69c091)

Lastly there is the RCD 310 but unless you want DAB on the cheap then it's a bit barmy to choose this where there are better options! Like the RCD510 it requires additional modules for the Bluetooth and Media interface like AUX and USB so not a good value option if you want these features!

(https://shops.volkswagen.com/assets/MASTER_904_VWZ_OZ/en_GB/904_IPZM_1K0057186AN_ENG_001.jpg)

Hope this helps!
Great post.

I'm personally a fair way off upgrading my tunes but when I do I think I'll give you a shout.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Stig_gti on November 06, 2016, 05:01:28 pm
I just bought dnx525dab.
Can be picked up at a good price if you look around, built in Bluetooth dab and works with the golf just like oem. Sound quality is better aswell.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: grey golfster on November 06, 2016, 06:49:38 pm
I don't actually want/need a new gead unit, but thanks fir your work on this guide!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 07, 2016, 08:32:32 am
Absolutely superb help thank you for putting that together. I can certainly live without Dab, and I have a little Bluetooth unit that could work through aux as well so that wouldn't be the end of the world. Aux is very important and the sd card would be great. Way less bothered about the cd player.

I'll have a serious think about all of this. I'd prefer not to spend silly money but I also do want to try and keep it fairly oem so one of these options will fit. In terms of fitting are there any particularly good specialists out there? I don't mind doing a head unit myself but I wouldn't want to start doing wires and looms etc

Cheers all!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: mk5Eire on November 07, 2016, 12:25:28 pm
I don't actually want/need a new gead unit, but thanks fir your work on this guide!
There are plenty of kits that plug into the cd changer of your stock head unit and give you usb/aux/sd card functionality. Vw do an mdi kit that runs into the glove box or armrest if you have one.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: flashp on November 07, 2016, 12:32:15 pm
Have a read here also http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,84703.msg1039245.html#msg1039245 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,84703.msg1039245.html#msg1039245)
And here: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,106899.msg1036912.html#msg1036912 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,106899.msg1036912.html#msg1036912)
And also this: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,84703.msg869637.html#msg869637 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,84703.msg869637.html#msg869637)
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: pudding on November 07, 2016, 01:43:48 pm
Bare minimum is to upgrade the Canbus Gateway otherwise you will experience Battery Drain with these OEM units. You can get the 7K0 907 530 canbus gateways for about £20 uncoded or about £30-40 precoded.

Most people tend to upgrade to the European RCD510 or RNS510 stereos but it will need the additonal Bluetooth module should you want BT stream and have telephony. It also does not include any USB/AUX options by default, you will need to purchase additional wiring through where the ESP buttons are. And to make things more complicated not all RCD510/RNS510 have DAB. You can tell by looking at the back of the unit, if it has a black port then the unit has DAB. All in all the RCD510/RNS510 while one of the most aesthetically pleasing is also one of the most expensive OEM options you can buy - you'll be looking around £500+ for all the options fitted in.

I got my RNS510 through some VAG car radio specialist on ebay.  I can't remember the name of it, but he supplied me with a 'Q' revision 510 with an internal software tweak to fix the battery drain issue.  Just putting that out there because you don't strictly need a newer gateway, and it's an utter git to replace too. It's dependent on year of the car and year of the radio.  Mine's an 07 plate and I've left it at Gatwick for 2 weeks with no battery drain.

Agreed on the RNS510 being the best looking unit, but it's by far the best sounding option unfortunately.  And the price of the Bluetooth module is crazy, which puts the overall cost too close to the flagship Kenwood NAV unit the dealers supply & fit, which sounds superior.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: trackep on November 07, 2016, 03:49:42 pm
sorry to hi jack the thread. But i'm just after something i can plug my ipod/iphone into and something the wife can call me on when she is driving (doesn't like driving on an evening on her own  :rolleye:. The RCD330G plus looks like the one? Will this be just a straight plug and play on my 2009 ED30? thanks for any input.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 07, 2016, 07:15:02 pm
I think the rcn210 is perfect for me. Could somebody kindly point me to a guide on what wires are required etc? Would most be specialists know how to fit all this?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on November 07, 2016, 10:38:36 pm
sorry to hi jack the thread. But i'm just after something i can plug my ipod/iphone into and something the wife can call me on when she is driving (doesn't like driving on an evening on her own  :rolleye:. The RCD330G plus looks like the one? Will this be just a straight plug and play on my 2009 ED30? thanks for any input.

Yes the RCD 330G will be a straight swap with the existing quad lock cable, though bear in mind that you lose the MDI or the 6 CD Autochanger function should you have this already (no biggie with an unit like this). As you have a 2009 MK5 the Canbus should be late enough to be OK.

The only additional item you need is the Dual FAKRA to single radio antenna wire which can be found here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?hash=item1c601966d6:g:JIYAAOSwpRRWoLrb) (I bought mine from this seller and it works great).

I think the rcn210 is perfect for me. Could somebody kindly point me to a guide on what wires are required etc? Would most be specialists know how to fit all this?

You will need this (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Easy-Install-Upgrade-RCN210-Canbus-Adapter-CAN-Cable-For-Golf-VI-Jetta-5-6-MK5-MK6/32670074117.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.11.mvydCE&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10091_10090_10088_10089,searchweb201603_1&btsid=4dc2a99e-31a9-4e16-b4ca-6e0aba8a02c4) Canbus to ISO cable adapter for the RCN210 as well as the Radio FAKRA wire mentioned above.

For fitting instructions there is a fantastic video guide on how to install the RCN210 stereo to a MK5 which can be found below.



I also used this (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1S2xOIXXXXXcxXFXXq6xXFXXXj/202776315/HTB1S2xOIXXXXXcxXFXXq6xXFXXXj.jpg?size=457651&height=1422&width=995&hash=23e96eee4aaa349301b7c30b421fbb50) instruction guide for details on where the wires go and where to place the pins in when I installed my RCN210.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 08, 2016, 08:31:52 am
sorry to hi jack the thread. But i'm just after something i can plug my ipod/iphone into and something the wife can call me on when she is driving (doesn't like driving on an evening on her own  :rolleye:. The RCD330G plus looks like the one? Will this be just a straight plug and play on my 2009 ED30? thanks for any input.

Yes the RCD 330G will be a straight swap with the existing quad lock cable, though bear in mind that you lose the MDI or the 6 CD Autochanger function should you have this already (no biggie with an unit like this). As you have a 2009 MK5 the Canbus should be late enough to be OK.

The only additional item you need is the Dual FAKRA to single radio antenna wire which can be found here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?hash=item1c601966d6:g:JIYAAOSwpRRWoLrb) (I bought mine from this seller and it works great).

I think the rcn210 is perfect for me. Could somebody kindly point me to a guide on what wires are required etc? Would most be specialists know how to fit all this?

You will need this (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Easy-Install-Upgrade-RCN210-Canbus-Adapter-CAN-Cable-For-Golf-VI-Jetta-5-6-MK5-MK6/32670074117.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.11.mvydCE&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10091_10090_10088_10089,searchweb201603_1&btsid=4dc2a99e-31a9-4e16-b4ca-6e0aba8a02c4) Canbus to ISO cable adapter for the RCN210 as well as the Radio FAKRA wire mentioned above.

For fitting instructions there is a fantastic video guide on how to install the RCN210 stereo to a MK5 which can be found below.



I also used this (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1S2xOIXXXXXcxXFXXq6xXFXXXj/202776315/HTB1S2xOIXXXXXcxXFXXq6xXFXXXj.jpg?size=457651&height=1422&width=995&hash=23e96eee4aaa349301b7c30b421fbb50) instruction guide for details on where the wires go and where to place the pins in when I installed my RCN210.

excellent! I assume the rcn should be bought off ebay or aliexpress? They are all from china anyways? Seen a couple for sale from the UK but assume they are the same unit?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on November 08, 2016, 10:03:09 am
excellent! I assume the rcn should be bought off ebay or aliexpress? They are all from china anyways? Seen a couple for sale from the UK but assume they are the same unit?

Thanks!
Yep they are the same unit though you maybe able to get it cheaper from AliExpress. They're even doing a Black Friday sale on the 11th November for a lot of items including the RCN210 so you might just want to hold on until then so you can get good discounts on them!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 08, 2016, 01:48:11 pm
excellent! I assume the rcn should be bought off ebay or aliexpress? They are all from china anyways? Seen a couple for sale from the UK but assume they are the same unit?

Thanks!
Yep they are the same unit though you maybe able to get it cheaper from AliExpress. They're even doing a Black Friday sale on the 11th November for a lot of items including the RCN210 so you might just want to hold on until then so you can get good discounts on them!

You sir, are a scholar. I am assuming it'll take a while for them to be delivered but that is fine - can do it over xmas!

I am not electrically-minded in the slightest but I will try using the video etc. If not I will try and find a specialist and make them watch it!

PatchySan - if all else fails i'll just drive to wherever you are with 100 beers as payment!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 10, 2016, 11:11:32 am
So I have seen the rcd330plus on aliexpress at a decent price - if I got that, it would have everything but DAB and a cd drive right? And would just slot straight in?

Cheers
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: trackep on November 10, 2016, 11:29:33 am
Will the RCD330G plus also charge my phone when it is plugged in? thank you
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on November 10, 2016, 12:29:29 pm
So I have seen the rcd330plus on aliexpress at a decent price - if I got that, it would have everything but DAB and a cd drive right? And would just slot straight in?

Cheers

Correct, the RCD 330G Plus doesn't have Digital Radio (DAB) or a CD player but you gain a bigger screen making it easier to view and scroll (worth it IMO). 

It uses the standard Quad Lock cable so it is straight plug and play so no need to splice wires like the RCN 210. If you have the MDI interface or 6 CD Autochanger prefitted then you will lose those features but the RCD 330G makes them redundant anyway.

Will the RCD330G plus also charge my phone when it is plugged in? thank you

It should do yes, plus if your phone is Mirrorlink 1.1 compatible you can use it to view certain mobile apps on the stereo system as well.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 10, 2016, 02:27:32 pm
So I have seen the rcd330plus on aliexpress at a decent price - if I got that, it would have everything but DAB and a cd drive right? And would just slot straight in?

Cheers

Correct, the RCD 330G Plus doesn't have Digital Radio (DAB) or a CD player but you gain a bigger screen making it easier to view and scroll (worth it IMO). 

It uses the standard Quad Lock cable so it is straight plug and play so no need to splice wires like the RCN 210. If you have the MDI interface or 6 CD Autochanger prefitted then you will lose those features but the RCD 330G makes them redundant anyway.

Will the RCD330G plus also charge my phone when it is plugged in? thank you

It should do yes, plus if your phone is Mirrorlink 1.1 compatible you can use it to view certain mobile apps on the stereo system as well.

Great, I am going to order a 330G or G PLUS tomorrow off aliexpress. I have a 2006 gti... will I need to order a canbus as well?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on November 10, 2016, 04:06:10 pm
Great, I am going to order a 330G or G PLUS tomorrow off aliexpress. I have a 2006 gti... will I need to order a canbus as well?

Thanks!

On the safe side you will need to order an updated Canbus Gateway to prevent battery drain for the RCD 330G, look out for the 7N0 907 530 gateways which are some of the later ones.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 10, 2016, 05:06:15 pm
Great, I am going to order a 330G or G PLUS tomorrow off aliexpress. I have a 2006 gti... will I need to order a canbus as well?

Thanks!

On the safe side you will need to order an updated Canbus Gateway to prevent battery drain for the RCD 330G, look out for the 7N0 907 530 gateways which are some of the later ones.

Excellent thank you, I will try and find that on aliexpress at the same time.

So RCD330g, canbus, fakra aerial and I should be fixed? :)
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on November 10, 2016, 06:59:58 pm
Excellent thank you, I will try and find that on aliexpress at the same time.

So RCD330g, canbus, fakra aerial and I should be fixed? :)

Pretty much all you need!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 11, 2016, 09:37:07 am
Excellent thank you, I will try and find that on aliexpress at the same time.

So RCD330g, canbus, fakra aerial and I should be fixed? :)

Pretty much all you need!  :smiley:


Ordered a 330G+ (fakra included) and the 7N0907530 AH canbus from aliexpress, just under £140 all in, including shipping on their big 11.11 day!

Patchysan, invaluable help, can't thank you enough.

And now to google how to switch canbus out...!!!


   
 
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: trackep on November 11, 2016, 10:28:26 am
Ditto mate haha. Just done the same. Thanks again Patchysan. I'll update when i get it and fit. cheers Adam
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 11, 2016, 10:49:00 am
Ditto mate haha. Just done the same. Thanks again Patchysan. I'll update when i get it and fit. cheers Adam

lol same sort of price? That website is a nightmare to navigate!

I'd be keen to see how your fitting goes. I have never swapped or upgraded or done anything to any car I have ever owned so it's all new to me!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: trackep on November 14, 2016, 10:12:16 am
Think is was about 180 dollars ithink haha. Regard fitting, hardest part will just be removing dash plastics without scratching them. I ordered one of them orange plastic trim kits of ebay. Then youtube is your friend mate, there will be a few videos on there about fitting.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: trackep on November 16, 2016, 09:34:03 am
Received mine yesterday, all fitted up last night. Perfect condition. Not sure if i got the wrong Fakra cable but i had to leave one aerial unplugged but radio reception is fine. The only downside it seems is that i have lost volume control on the steering wheel. Any ideas if this can be rectified? It's no massive problem just a little niggle. The advantages of bluetooth and phone calls easily out weigh it. Very happy!!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 16, 2016, 10:45:17 am
Received mine yesterday, all fitted up last night. Perfect condition. Not sure if i got the wrong Fakra cable but i had to leave one aerial unplugged but radio reception is fine. The only downside it seems is that i have lost volume control on the steering wheel. Any ideas if this can be rectified? It's no massive problem just a little niggle. The advantages of bluetooth and phone calls easily out weigh it. Very happy!!

Great news, did you need to change CANBUS and code it yourself? I am getting a local to do it as I am fairly sure the car will explode if I even think about trying it, such is my total lack of knowledge :)

Pics would be great to see how flush it is!!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: sambo101 on November 16, 2016, 10:53:08 am
Wow great info in this post!

Will the 330G plug and play with a 2005 mk5?

I am very interested in getting one now.....
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 16, 2016, 11:08:35 am
Wow great info in this post!

Will the 330G plug and play with a 2005 mk5?

I am very interested in getting one now.....

I "believe" so - that's what sold it to me, with inbuilt Bluetooth and aux/usb/sd etc so that there is no splicing or additional purchases.

CANBUS upgrade is needed for older models like my 56 I believe
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: sambo101 on November 16, 2016, 11:38:47 am
Wow great info in this post!

Will the 330G plug and play with a 2005 mk5?

I am very interested in getting one now.....

I "believe" so - that's what sold it to me, with inbuilt Bluetooth and aux/usb/sd etc so that there is no splicing or additional purchases.

CANBUS upgrade is needed for older models like my 56 I believe

Thanks, what CANBUS upgrade does it require?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on November 16, 2016, 12:46:38 pm
Received mine yesterday, all fitted up last night. Perfect condition. Not sure if i got the wrong Fakra cable but i had to leave one aerial unplugged but radio reception is fine. The only downside it seems is that i have lost volume control on the steering wheel. Any ideas if this can be rectified? It's no massive problem just a little niggle. The advantages of bluetooth and phone calls easily out weigh it. Very happy!!

You probably got the FAKRA cable that was designed for the MK6 Golfs (Double White if I recall?), ideally you need one that is split to fit both wires in properly like this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?hash=item1c601966d6:g:JIYAAOSwpRRWoLrb) one. But if it's working fine for now just test to see how it goes, obviously if it gets a bit scratchy then get the cable that I linked.

For the steering wheel controls you probably need to upgrade the module to that of the MK6 version as this has been noted from users of the RCN210. The part number for that is 1K0 953 549 CH (this is backwards compatible with the MK5) and hopefully this should solve your volume control issues on the MFSW.

Thanks, what CANBUS upgrade does it require?

Anything that is 7N0 907 530 is safe to go to prevent battery drain. You can find these for about £20 but will require coding on your vehicle.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: blueislander80 on November 17, 2016, 08:24:14 am
Mine arrived yesterday, not fitted yet but checked it and it looks to be brand new etc. Can't wait to get it running!

Is the CANBUS for a 56 plate located near the pedals or something? Did I read that wrong?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: trackep on November 17, 2016, 01:18:42 pm
Honestly i would fit it yourself and save on the labour costs. Just have your phone handy and google it if you get stuck. My car is 2009 ED30. It has been left overnight and all day at work and the battery hasn't gone flat.......so i'm hoping i'm safe haha. Again Patchysan invaluable input and help thank you. Just ordered the fakra lead you linked, yeah i just left one plug loose and the reception has been fine but i would rather have it all connected. Steering module hard to change? will that need coding or anything? Thanks again for your help. I only have evening picture at the minute so doesn't show much, buts it a OE unit and fits and feels 100% OE
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Jonnyed30 on December 22, 2016, 05:40:15 pm
Hi just a quick question about the rcd330 would my 2008 edition 30 need the gateway updating or would it be fine.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: 4ndy on December 22, 2016, 06:05:10 pm
Hi just a quick question about the rcd330 would my 2008 edition 30 need the gateway updating or would it be fine.
You'll be fine  Ive done 2007 with "K" gateway,rcd510DAB and all is good :happy2:
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Jonnyed30 on December 22, 2016, 06:36:35 pm
Cool cheers mate I didn't wanna have to be messing about with gateways. Seems a lot of hassle
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Mark_DF05 on January 21, 2017, 11:03:46 pm
Do these work with mfsw and mfd? Thinking about getting one to replace my rcd510 as a cheaper option to buying the necessary Bluetooth modules.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 23, 2017, 03:17:48 pm
Ahh I see. That is why my old battery had died completely when I had installed one of these stereos I bought from China for my MK5 GTI :scared: :fighting:. It was a mystery especially when it was draining my new Bosch battery that I had replaced with the old one! My mechanic has now fitted the live from the stereo direct into the fuse box- to fix this issue of significant power loss/drainage in my MK5 GTI. But I notice the battery is still a bit weak when starting her up  :confused:. Do I need to get a Canbus Gateway instead do you think to be on the safe side with the new battery- its going through the mills in this tough weather at the minute?  :confused:
Depends on how much you want to spend and what features do you want.

Bare minimum is to upgrade the Canbus Gateway otherwise you will experience Battery Drain with these OEM units. You can get the 7K0 907 530 canbus gateways for about £20 uncoded or about £30-40 precoded.

Most people tend to upgrade to the European RCD510 or RNS510 stereos but it will need the additonal Bluetooth module should you want BT stream and have telephony. It also does not include any USB/AUX options by default, you will need to purchase additional wiring through where the ESP buttons are. And to make things more complicated not all RCD510/RNS510 have DAB. You can tell by looking at the back of the unit, if it has a black port then the unit has DAB. All in all the RCD510/RNS510 while one of the most aesthetically pleasing is also one of the most expensive OEM options you can buy - you'll be looking around £500+ for all the options fitted in.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs337%2FRobGTIPhotos%2F2790221427_d98f8704a3.jpg&hash=0870ab613347d62157676fea42e6214afe4af290)

The next option is the RNS310/RNS315, similar to the RNS510 but has a smaller screen. But the real ace in its sleeve is that it has Bluetooth as standard so you can do telephone (with the optional mic) and audio streaming out of the box, it also has an AUX port on the front so no need to purchase any additional wiring too. But again be sure to check that is has DAB as not all RNS310/RNS315 units have this. These units can cost around £200-350 ish.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvag-repair.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F07%2FRNS315.jpg&hash=00891366245935dfa8f7bb28393bd20bc823e932)

If you're not bothered about DAB then you have a few more options open to you. If you're looking for an OEM unit with lots of connectivity at the lowest possible price then you can't go wrong with the RCN210. Lots of features built in for the money, Bluetooth + Mic Built-In (Telephone and A2DP Stream), CD Player, AUX, SD Card, USB and iPod Control out of the box, these units can be had and fitted for no more than £50 (I had this for a few months and its been superb). The only minor complication is that it uses the ISO interface rather than the quad lock so it needs an adaptor and additional CAN wiring from the Air Con unit to get it all working.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2nvs4qq.jpg&hash=c08ab1ed023f427ef03368427333deb07a831073)

If you want something a bit more upmarket and has a touchscreen then you can opt for the RCD330G. It has a nice updated MIB interface similar to those from the MK7 Golf and like the RCN210 has all the essentials out of the box. The RCD 330G can be had for around £100 and uses the existing Quad Lock Canbus cable. If you don't need the CD Player and fancy the bigger screen (6.5" vs 5.0") then you can opt for the RCD 330G PLUS which is what I have now, expect an extra premium of £80 on top of the standard model for this version however.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.patchysan.net%2Fimages%2FGolf%2FRCD330GPLUS_001.jpg&hash=beac1bb1e4af350fdd0336dadd677120ea69c091)

*** UPDATE - Prices have dropped dramatically with the RCD 330 PLUS making them fantastic value for money. They now can be bought for under £90 including postage from AliExpress - check out BDL Co. LTD or AIDU as verified vendors for VW OEM stuff in China. ***

Lastly there is the RCD 310 but unless you want DAB on the cheap then it's a bit barmy to choose this where there are better options! Like the RCD510 it requires additional modules for the Bluetooth and Media interface like AUX and USB so not a good value option if you want these features!

(https://shops.volkswagen.com/assets/MASTER_904_VWZ_OZ/en_GB/904_IPZM_1K0057186AN_ENG_001.jpg)

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: vwpete91 on January 23, 2017, 05:53:33 pm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272526849091  seems very cheap and plays mp3 cds too? Are these a good radio? Might get one


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Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: barelyrelevant on January 24, 2017, 08:17:40 pm
It's worth saying the other option is fitting something like this

http://www.dension.com/automotive/products/car-multimedia-solutions/gateway-lite-bt

Which will let you bluetooth, USB, SD card without messing around with the can etc. Less functionality than some of the head unit upgrade but certainly a lot cheaper/easier.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Rado16v on January 25, 2017, 10:19:45 am
Hi,

I'm really sold on the idea of the RCD330G Plus, it's £80 delivered now on AliExpress which is bargain: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-RCD330-RCD330G-Plus-6-5-MIB-UI-Radio-RCD510-RCN210-For-Golf-5/523203_32747017587.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-RCD330-RCD330G-Plus-6-5-MIB-UI-Radio-RCD510-RCN210-For-Golf-5/523203_32747017587.html)

A couple of queries please, it comes with a Fakra cable (Antenna Adaptor) as seen in the pic, is this correct for the mk5 or do I need this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750

Does the AM and FM radio work correctly? Being a Chinese model, any issues here in the UK? I note the bandwidths are the same as UK from the spec.

I have a 2007 Edition 30, will I need a canbus?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on January 25, 2017, 06:30:33 pm
Do these work with mfsw and mfd? Thinking about getting one to replace my rcd510 as a cheaper option to buying the necessary Bluetooth modules.

It works with the MFSW but you will also need the CH steering module for it to work. It doesn't seem to work with MFD unfortunately, well not on my highline clocks anyway.

Ahh I see. That is why my old battery had died completely when I had installed one of these stereos I bought from China for my MK5 GTI :scared: :fighting:. It was a mystery especially when it was draining my new Bosch battery that I had replaced with the old one! My mechanic has now fitted the live from the stereo direct into the fuse box- to fix this issue of significant power loss/drainage in my MK5 GTI. But I notice the battery is still a bit weak when starting her up  :confused:. Do I need to get a Canbus Gateway instead do you think to be on the safe side with the new battery- its going through the mills in this tough weather at the minute?  :confused:

Since your mechanic have hot-wired the stereo connections to the fuse you probably don't need the canbus upgrade at this point. I take the stereo only works with the ignition on? Since it's a new battery you probably don't need to replace it soon as the power grid should be fine though you may want a to give it a long drive to recharge back up again.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272526849091  seems very cheap and plays mp3 cds too? Are these a good radio? Might get one

The RCD 210 is a very basic unit, it doesn't offer much from the later version RCD 300/500 apart from MDI support (which is optional) but the sound quality should be slightly better. Being the same generation as the RCD 310 and RCD 510 you may need to upgrade the Canbus to prevent battery drain in the MK5 which adds to the cost. Personally I rather have the RCN 210 at this price point for the additonal features, plus I didn't experience battery drain with my ancient Revision E canbus at the time using the adapter.

Hi,

I'm really sold on the idea of the RCD330G Plus, it's £80 delivered now on AliExpress which is bargain: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-RCD330-RCD330G-Plus-6-5-MIB-UI-Radio-RCD510-RCN210-For-Golf-5/523203_32747017587.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-RCD330-RCD330G-Plus-6-5-MIB-UI-Radio-RCD510-RCN210-For-Golf-5/523203_32747017587.html)

A couple of queries please, it comes with a Fakra cable (Antenna Adaptor) as seen in the pic, is this correct for the mk5 or do I need this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750

Does the AM and FM radio work correctly? Being a Chinese model, any issues here in the UK? I note the bandwidths are the same as UK from the spec.

I have a 2007 Edition 30, will I need a canbus?

Thanks in advance.

Tricky with the Canbus, Revision K gateways are 50:50 (some are fine, some not and still drains) hence why I recommmend Revision L to be 100% sure. You can find out by looking at the label or do a VAGCOM scan which tells you which one you have.

You are correct with the aerial adapter, you need the eBay one as the supplied version is for the MK6 and not for the MK5.

AM/FM stations work fine here in the UK, had no problems tuning to the likes of Capital and Smooth FM in my car!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: malc101 on January 25, 2017, 08:20:33 pm
Thanks for this post, just had a good read of it and now want the RCD330G. First on the to buy list I think.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: 19TW80 on January 25, 2017, 10:59:45 pm
Thanks for this post, just had a good read of it and now want the RCD330G. First on the to buy list I think.

I did the same and it turned up within five days to SW London from China. Unit looks spot on, although I haven't fitted it yet as I'm waiting for the aerial adapter that Patchysan recommended.

One small word of warning: I got a customs bill from TNT yesterday for £35: £15 for HMRC and an eyewatering £20 processing fee for TNT. I'm going to challenge the latter, as it's extortionate, and its not something I ever agreed to. Hopes aren't high, but I'll let you know how I got on. Anyhow, £130 for this HU is still a good price.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Rado16v on January 26, 2017, 01:13:21 pm
One small word of warning: I got a customs bill from TNT yesterday for £35: £15 for HMRC and an eyewatering £20 processing fee for TNT. I'm going to challenge the latter, as it's extortionate, and its not something I ever agreed to. Hopes aren't high, but I'll let you know how I got on. Anyhow, £130 for this HU is still a good price.

I think you'll be ok, call them and tell them exactly that. That you'll happily pay the VAT and cusomts but not the fee's as you never agreed to it. They should then send you an updated invoice.

Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: malc101 on January 26, 2017, 10:55:28 pm
Ouch that is a big fee. Like you say still a good price. Will look into more once my front end is fixed.

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Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spesh on January 29, 2017, 11:12:25 am
Been looking to change the stock stereo in my early ed30 and these 330's look like they will do everything I need.  I have a question though, do they support external microphones?  Aliexpress as usual has bugger all info.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on January 29, 2017, 04:44:22 pm
Been looking to change the stock stereo in my early ed30 and these 330's look like they will do everything I need.  I have a question though, do they support external microphones?  Aliexpress as usual has bugger all info.
Thanks :)

Looking at the pinout diagram on the RCD 330 there's no mention of "TEL" on the connections so I would assume that it doesn't support external mics. But since the RCD 330 has one built in anyway I guess that the manufacturer felt that it wasn't necessary to include external mic connections on the unit.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Bigjimknickers on January 29, 2017, 07:05:11 pm
Glad I found this thread! That 330G looks amazing value. Think I'll be ordering one for sure.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Bigjimknickers on January 29, 2017, 09:52:00 pm
Excellent thank you, I will try and find that on aliexpress at the same time.

So RCD330g, canbus, fakra aerial and I should be fixed? :)

Pretty much all you need!  :smiley:

So mines a 2006, I'll need the canbus upgrade too then? Is that on aliexpress too?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on January 29, 2017, 10:13:46 pm
So mines a 2006, I'll need the canbus upgrade too then? Is that on aliexpress too?

Yes you will need to upgrade the Canbus Gateway from that year, they are about £20 uncoded from AliExpress so not too expensive. If you don't have VAGCOM consider getting it precoded from sellers here on the forum classifieds.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: majillionaire on January 29, 2017, 10:28:11 pm
Been looking to change the stock stereo in my early ed30 and these 330's look like they will do everything I need.  I have a question though, do they support external microphones?  Aliexpress as usual has bugger all info.
Thanks :)

Looking at the pinout diagram on the RCD 330 there's no mention of "TEL" on the connections so I would assume that it doesn't support external mics. But since the RCD 330 has one built in anyway I guess that the manufacturer felt that it wasn't necessary to include external mic connections on the unit.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/760HEmMF3ns/maxresdefault.jpg)
I'm going to try out pins 6 and 12 based on this. Another diagram I found has "mic in +" on pin 1 and "mic in -" on pin 7, so that might be worth a go too.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: cossielee on January 30, 2017, 09:06:54 pm
hi what would I need to fit the rcn210 unit to my 57 plate ed30 , my car has different controls to the golf in the youtube clip

cheers
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on January 30, 2017, 11:40:33 pm
hi what would I need to fit the rcn210 unit to my 57 plate ed30 , my car has different controls to the golf in the youtube clip
cheers

You need the Quadlock to ISO adapter (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/VW-Upgrade-RCN210-Canbus-Adapter-Cable-For-Volkswagen-Golf-VI-Jetta-5-6-MK5-MK6-Passat/909381_32253665384.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.eFv0uC) with CAN wires and the aerial FAKRA adapter. The extra CAN wires are used to tap power from the Climatronic which has similar wiring to the semi-auto system in the YouTube clip (orange-green and orange-brown wires), you need to do this to get the backlighting and bluetooth working. To feed the two wires to the adapter use these (http://image.dhgate.com/0x0/f2/albu/g3/M00/FF/E9/rBVaHVagRCyAKUD1AAMcIx4EZDc682.jpg) instructions on where to place them in.

It can be a bit fiddly so be patient, and once connected you shouldn't need to worry about battery drain (the RCN210 worked fine with my ancient Revision E gateway and had no draining issues under my experience). If the idea of tapping wires puts you off then you may as well consider getting the RCD 330 for a little bit more which is plug and play with the existing cable though you will need a Canbus upgrade if its before a Revision K.

Also to mention that if you have a MFSW then you may find that this will no longer work with the new stereo, you need to upgrade the steering module to at least a "CH" revision to regain the audio controls back.

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: 19TW80 on January 31, 2017, 01:07:11 am
Hi Patchysan,

How do I know if my MFSW uses a CH module or not? Incidentally, I have the Highline cluster.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on January 31, 2017, 12:57:33 pm
Hi Patchysan,

How do I know if my MFSW uses a CH module or not? Incidentally, I have the Highline cluster.

Thanks in advance.

If you have VCDS you can check the part number from the Steering Module but generally CH modules come from the MK6 Golf's so it's unlikely that it was fitted on the MK5 Golf from the factory.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Bigjimknickers on January 31, 2017, 08:31:49 pm
So mines a 2006, I'll need the canbus upgrade too then? Is that on aliexpress too?

Yes you will need to upgrade the Canbus Gateway from that year, they are about £20 uncoded from AliExpress so not too expensive. If you don't have VAGCOM consider getting it precoded from sellers here on the forum classifieds.
Thanks for that, one more question I can't seem to find the answer too is that it looks like the 330G plus doesn't do sat nav? But when I look up one called 330G No name CarPlay, it looks like that one is an apple unit that does sat nav (albeit through the iPhone , but still on screen on the unit)
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on January 31, 2017, 11:15:48 pm
Thanks for that, one more question I can't seem to find the answer too is that it looks like the 330G plus doesn't do sat nav? But when I look up one called 330G No name CarPlay, it looks like that one is an apple unit that does sat nav (albeit through the iPhone , but still on screen on the unit)

The RCD 330 doesn't have Satellite Navigation built-in but the more recent version of the RCD 330 Plus - the "No Name" version has Apple CarPlay integration which can run Apple Maps through the system for sat nav duties. Of course this does rely on your iPhone's GPS and mobile data for navigation but at least you don't have to worry about updating the system firmware for the latest maps as this should be updated free through the phone.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: majillionaire on February 01, 2017, 12:05:19 am
The RCD300G Plus (sold by Aidu on aliexpress) has mirrorlink for Android, which I believe is equivalent to CarPlay.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Sandman on February 02, 2017, 01:30:22 pm
Does anyone have the 330 plus with carplay from Aliexpress?  I would be interested to hear some real life experiences with it before taking the plunge.

Does it display the name of the (FM) radio station you are listening to?
Do the hands free features work even if you aren't in carplay mode?
Can you stream (and control from the head unit) audio from your phone over bluetooth?
Do the 3 buttons to the right of the screen being in the wrong order bother you?
Are these really brand new units removed from VW cars in china (as they are advertised as being)?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spesh on February 03, 2017, 11:12:29 pm
Cant make my mind up, the lack of external mic is worrying me as handsfree experiences with built in mic's hasnt been very good.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: 19TW80 on February 04, 2017, 08:49:34 am
Thanks Patchysan - massively helpful, as ever.

Hi Patchysan,

How do I know if my MFSW uses a CH module or not? Incidentally, I have the Highline cluster.

Thanks in advance.

If you have VCDS you can check the part number from the Steering Module but generally CH modules come from the MK6 Golf's so it's unlikely that it was fitted on the MK5 Golf from the factory.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: ldor1 on February 04, 2017, 09:02:48 am
I would not buy one unless it had an external mic, I've had them with built in one's only and they are useless.I bought a Chinese head unit  from a UK supplier 8 months ago and it's been faultless. I changed the maps to igo8 which I preferred and fitted a nonreflective screen to it which involves removing the display from the radio.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: majillionaire on February 04, 2017, 03:16:57 pm
Anyone with a Chinese RCD330G (or Plus) been able to get album artwork when playing from an SD card? I've all the artwork in the ID3 tags, and folder.jpg in all the folders, all resized to 400x400; still nothing's showing up. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: david85williams on February 06, 2017, 04:04:01 pm
Hi all,

Can anyone tell me where to buy the new RCD 330 PLUS (6RD035187B)? This is the one with Apple CarPlay.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: pudding on February 06, 2017, 04:56:14 pm
Hi all,

Can anyone tell me where to buy the new RCD 330 PLUS (6RD035187B)? This is the one with Apple CarPlay.

Thanks!

Dealer, or wait a while for all the east Europeans to smash up their Tiguans and there'll be dozens of them on ebay.   Or obviously you've got the Chinese Amazon (Aliexpress) fakery options.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: david85williams on February 07, 2017, 08:23:48 am
So are all the current RCD 330G etc from China or Aliexpress all Chinese copies?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on February 07, 2017, 12:27:03 pm
So are all the current RCD 330G etc from China or Aliexpress all Chinese copies?

The RCD 330 is a VW OEM unit for the Chinese market (used on the Polos, Sagitar, Magotan and Santana models) so they are not fakes. Sellers on AliExpress tend strip them from genuine cars and bring them to the aftermarket. I got my RCD330 Plus from AliExpress and been using it for months without major issues. Even so if you do encounter a problem on AliExpress you do have purchase protection so you're not left to be hung dry in an event of a problem.

The CarPlay version is available but as it only came out supplies are scarce so prices are expensive for the time being, I wait a bit for prices to decrease before committing.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Sandman on February 07, 2017, 01:06:37 pm
So are all the current RCD 330G etc from China or Aliexpress all Chinese copies?

The RCD 330 is a VW OEM unit for the Chinese market (used on the Polos, Sagitar, Magotan and Santana models) so they are not fakes. Sellers on AliExpress tend strip them from genuine cars and bring them to the aftermarket. I got my RCD330 Plus from AliExpress and been using it for months without major issues. Even so if you do encounter a problem on AliExpress you do have purchase protection so you're not left to be hung dry in an event of a problem.

The CarPlay version is available but as it only came out supplies are scarce so prices are expensive for the time being, I wait a bit for prices to decrease before committing.

Some of the carplay versions for sale on Aliexpress are definitely not completely legit.  Read the description of them and you will see that the physical buttons do not operate as they should on a factory installed unit.  Some sellers also state that they are upgraded the RAM in the unit and installed a firmware upgrade to get the carplay features.
If these units worked as intended I would buy one today but they dont.

Edit: The ones for sale for about £150 seem to be as above but I see there is version that costs about £250 and the buttons seem to be the correct way around.  I would guess that the cheaper units are non-carplay models that have been hacked and custom firmware installed.

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: noopets on February 11, 2017, 12:57:27 pm
I'm really tempted with one of these car play versions, might wait a few week though to see if the price drops. Or If i bought the standard version do you think they are upgradable with CarPlay software at a later date?

I'm also unsure if my canbus would need upgrades on an 07 gt tdi - sorry I'm a noob to all this!

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Eddcunningham on February 19, 2017, 03:03:42 am
These RCD330's with CarPlay could be the answer I've been searching for!  :notworthy:

I've always wanted CarPlay in my golf. As an avid user of Spotify, I've always wanted a way to safely change songs etc, without having to manhandle my phone, but the options always seemed a bit limited. The aftermarket units from the likes of Pioneer and Alpine, whilst looking very nice, I've always thought looked out of place on the mk5 and plus, were always on the pricey side for what they are.
Now I can have an OEM solution, with all the joys of CarPlay!

So I suppose my biggest barriers are:
- which canbus do I need for an 06 gti (original canbus I'm guessing), shall I buy pre-coded, or find someone local to code for me?
- I'm pretty attached to my MFSW, but I've seen previously people saying these head units may not play nicely with the CH module in the mk5's, what's the deal with those? I have factory fitted highline display, if it makes any difference at all.
As an ever so slight aside, if I can find my CH number from VAGCOM, could I determine whether or not I'd need the diagnostic wire for cruise control? 
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spicypixel on February 19, 2017, 08:23:55 pm
Anyone got a guide on what's needed to replace a RCD500 with a RCD330 Plus, is it just plug and play with some minimal VCDS coding? if so which codes.

Any idea if it works with the mk6 style rear badge reversing camera too? The kits from aliexpress all seem to bundle it with the fixed mount over the plates.
Thanks

Edit: Anyone confirm if this needs a CANBUS gateway upgrade to prevent the battery drain?
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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H04 0021 
   Revision:   H04 02    Serial number: 110207F1002062
   Coding: 3F3F034007000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2F6DC912BEC9B73940-807A

Further more, what's the latest CAN Gateway?
Edit2: Think I've answered my own question with 7N0907530AM
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on February 20, 2017, 05:27:53 pm
Do these work with mfsw and mfd? Thinking about getting one to replace my rcd510 as a cheaper option to buying the necessary Bluetooth modules.
Yes mine now works with ignition on. Battery had died a few times with the old battery as I had to replace with a new battery, but although it is now connected with ignition key I am still noticing some delay in battery turning the car over when starting it up in the morning. It should fire straight away but lags a little  :sad1:. I think these aftermarket stereos (from china) with all their copycat capabilities really drain the battery. I have driven my car without stereo on for the past three days now and I have noticed the difference in performance I am getting from my car with the full power restored in the battery. I think I should go for a genuine VW stereo, which one do you recommend?

It works with the MFSW but you will also need the CH steering module for it to work. It doesn't seem to work with MFD unfortunately, well not on my highline clocks anyway.

Ahh I see. That is why my old battery had died completely when I had installed one of these stereos I bought from China for my MK5 GTI :scared: :fighting:. It was a mystery especially when it was draining my new Bosch battery that I had replaced with the old one! My mechanic has now fitted the live from the stereo direct into the fuse box- to fix this issue of significant power loss/drainage in my MK5 GTI. But I notice the battery is still a bit weak when starting her up  :confused:. Do I need to get a Canbus Gateway instead do you think to be on the safe side with the new battery- its going through the mills in this tough weather at the minute?  :confused:

Since your mechanic have hot-wired the stereo connections to the fuse you probably don't need the canbus upgrade at this point. I take the stereo only works with the ignition on? Since it's a new battery you probably don't need to replace it soon as the power grid should be fine though you may want a to give it a long drive to recharge back up again.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272526849091  seems very cheap and plays mp3 cds too? Are these a good radio? Might get one

The RCD 210 is a very basic unit, it doesn't offer much from the later version RCD 300/500 apart from MDI support (which is optional) but the sound quality should be slightly better. Being the same generation as the RCD 310 and RCD 510 you may need to upgrade the Canbus to prevent battery drain in the MK5 which adds to the cost. Personally I rather have the RCN 210 at this price point for the additonal features, plus I didn't experience battery drain with my ancient Revision E canbus at the time using the adapter.

Hi,

I'm really sold on the idea of the RCD330G Plus, it's £80 delivered now on AliExpress which is bargain: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-RCD330-RCD330G-Plus-6-5-MIB-UI-Radio-RCD510-RCN210-For-Golf-5/523203_32747017587.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-RCD330-RCD330G-Plus-6-5-MIB-UI-Radio-RCD510-RCN210-For-Golf-5/523203_32747017587.html)

A couple of queries please, it comes with a Fakra cable (Antenna Adaptor) as seen in the pic, is this correct for the mk5 or do I need this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750

Does the AM and FM radio work correctly? Being a Chinese model, any issues here in the UK? I note the bandwidths are the same as UK from the spec.

I have a 2007 Edition 30, will I need a canbus?

Thanks in advance.

Tricky with the Canbus, Revision K gateways are 50:50 (some are fine, some not and still drains) hence why I recommmend Revision L to be 100% sure. You can find out by looking at the label or do a VAGCOM scan which tells you which one you have.

You are correct with the aerial adapter, you need the eBay one as the supplied version is for the MK6 and not for the MK5.

AM/FM stations work fine here in the UK, had no problems tuning to the likes of Capital and Smooth FM in my car!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: sambo101 on February 23, 2017, 11:57:52 am
Ready to pull the trigger on this today

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-RCD330-RCD330G-Plus-6-5-MIB-UI-Radio-RCD510-RCN210-For-Golf-5/523203_32747017587.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.PD07Dl

Is this the correct CANBUS that I should get with it for a 2005 Mk5 GTI?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Newest-OEM-VW-Canbus-Gateway-For-VW-Passat-B6-Jetta-5-MK5-Golf-6-MK6-Touran/523203_32298248581.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.PD07Dl

Or if someone can recommend where I can get an already coded CANBUS that would be a life saver. Thanks
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Red leader on February 23, 2017, 03:57:51 pm
I think one of the guys on here do pre coded cans. Check the for sale section.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Rado16v on February 24, 2017, 06:54:05 am
Can owners of the RCD330G+ please confirm if the fm station names are displayed on screen or is it just the frequency?

Thanks
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: sambo101 on February 24, 2017, 11:09:13 am
Can owners of the RCD330G+ please confirm if the fm station names are displayed on screen or is it just the frequency?

Thanks

https://media.info/radio/how-to/radio-station-logos-for-your-volkswagen-or-skoda-radio - this might help
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spicypixel on February 25, 2017, 06:20:24 pm
Guess I'm gonna need to wait a bit till more people get this unit imported to find out which optical parking sensors and reversing cameras are compatible with the RCD330 Plus.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spesh on February 25, 2017, 07:15:18 pm
Most seem to come with an adapter for reversing cameras which suggests any are compatible?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on March 01, 2017, 03:36:00 pm
I am still getting battery drain with my stereo so going to change it I wouldn't advise any aftermarket item from AliExpress to be used on the MK5 Golf GTI, I know this through experience. I have found this information useful on battery drain:

So, why will an after-market head unit drain a battery?

After-market head units are dual sourced, this means they require two +12v feeds and an earth in order to power. One of the +12v sources will be a direct battery feed, so it's reading +12v at all times. This is known as the battery backup. It's what essentially keeps the memory of the head unit. The other +12v feed will only come on when the keys are turned onto accessories, hence this wire is called "ACC". This means the +12v feed for this is only coming on with the ignition.

Battery drain will happen if there is more than +12v source being received into the head unit when the keys are off. Remember there should only be one +12v source, the battery wire, when the keys are out. If there are any other cables receiving +12v when the keys are out, then this is why you are suffering from battery drain.

It is physically impossible for the head unit to produce it's own +12v feed. So, it will be an installation based issue.

My fitter has said it's the head unit that is draining the battery?

OK, if someone says that, then they should be able to back this up with what cable and why. If they cannot, then they are simply making a guess. Any decent auto-electrician or audio specialist will be able to diagnose battery drain with the wire responsible and why it is causing the drain. Once they do that, they should be able to easily put it right.

So what could be causing the battery drain?

On a head units power loom, you will have the following power connections:

YELLOW Wire: +12v BATTERY (Constant)

RED Wire: +12v ACC (ignition based only)

ORANGE Wire: +12v ILLUMINATION (ignition based only)

BLUE Wire:  +12v REMOTE AERIAL AMP (ignition based only)

BLACK Wire: Ground Earth

You see that only one wire should be +12v at all times. So if any of the other wires (red, orange or blue) are receiving a constant +12v feed then that is going to be the reason why you are suffering from battery drain. All you need is a multi-meter and you can test all of these wires. You would easily identify which cable is receiving the the wrong feed.

How to resolve?

If one of the wires which should be ignition based are reading as a constant feed then all you have to do is move the wire to an ignition based feed. Simple.

But the stereo I purchased from you was listed as being plug and play?

Yes, our vehicle specific head units are plug and play but most of them are able to simply adjust between canbus and non-canbus applications. It's important that you have yours set up correct for your vehicle. Incorrectly setting them up may connect the ACC cable and give you that unwanted second +12v constant connection, which will cause battery drain.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: sambo101 on March 06, 2017, 02:11:34 pm
But did you resolve this issue? Instead of chopping and changing wires why not just get the correct canbus module?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: DMackie on March 06, 2017, 08:48:13 pm
Who was it on here who can supply the pre coded canbus gateways as ill be looking for one when i buy my new stereo.

Thanks
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: sambo101 on March 08, 2017, 06:58:13 pm
Got my 330G Plus and have fitted it, I am getting an error when trying to turn on the bluetooth it says "To use Bluetooth please switch on the ignition"

Anyone got any pointers?

Do I need the updated CanBus gateway to enable the bluetooth?

Thanks
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: chimp400 on April 02, 2017, 02:46:18 pm
Bumping this thread as I'm interested in putting the 330g plus in my car but there seems to be some issues with it.
Has anyone installed one with success?

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: mdgeorge on April 02, 2017, 10:04:21 pm
Bumping this thread as I'm interested in putting the 330g plus in my car but there seems to be some issues with it.
Has anyone installed one with success?

I have installed a rcd 330 g plus in a Passat fsi 2006, it works fine ( excepts CarPlay ).

The only think after the taking off the key start blinking the light of HU this is needed change of can bus gateway or use of a can bus stimulate ?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: chimp400 on April 03, 2017, 06:21:57 am
Thanks, I'm going to check the can unit sometime this week before I go ahead.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: mdgeorge on April 05, 2017, 07:14:16 pm
And car play works fine after setup of my iPhone

But the only problem is about the old can bus ( 2006 car) I don't know if it is needed change of gateway or any can simulator for rcd 330
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: jb111s on April 07, 2017, 10:34:27 am
My GTI came with one of the newer horrible cheap pioneer units installed (the mechless, touch screen ones they sell in halfords for £170 quid).

Sound was terrible and looked really out of place.

Found the Pioneer AVIC F3210 on Ebay. Not as flash as the latest devices, but has touch screen, bluetooth, full postcode sat nav and ipod integration. Better still the plastics are designed to match VW, so looks OEM.

Also works with the mfsw no problem at all, didn't have to do any recoding & all quadlock wiring harness for VW included so very easy 10 minute install.

I only paid £150 for mine on Ebay. Sound quality is much better as was originally a £900 stereo, aerial reception very good & no battery drain.

Worth looking into if you want decent sound, a good looking sat nav unit but don't want to spend much.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-AVIC-F3210BT-Sat-Nav-Navigaton-System-Map-VW-Skoda-Seat-/301517694104

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: 19TW80 on April 07, 2017, 09:46:52 pm
Hahaha - are you on the wind-up?? What the absolute f*ck is that monster of a stereo?! Looks like something out of the 90s, and I'd rather put pins in my eyes than be faced with that every time I'm behind the wheel. It would be sacrilege to put that anywhere near an Ed30 let alone a Golf. Does it take cassettes?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spesh on April 07, 2017, 10:18:37 pm
I've fitted a RCD330G to our ed30 along with an updated can gateway.  I bought both from aliexpress and have had no issues.


Its worth noting that the RCD330G will have some errors as not all functions will work without white dial clocks (BAP).  None of these errors affect its normal use just things like speed sensitive volume wont work.  Personally I think its a smashing unit and does pretty much everything I need and a bit more.

These are the links I used to buy.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/RCD330-Plus-6-5-inch-MIB-UI-Car-Radio-RCD510-RCN210-USB-SD-Bluetooth-RDS-For/32738855484.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.JhaO3o

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/OEM-Canbus-Gateway-For-VW-Passat-B6-Jetta-5-MK5-Golf-6-MK6-Touran-Skoda-Octavia/1824812044.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.JhaO3o
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spicypixel on April 08, 2017, 07:28:21 am
Anyone tried to hook up any optical parking sensors and confirmed they work with the 330 plus? Would be interested to find out if it supported it.

Then the fun task of getting a flip up mk6 reversing camera on a mk5 installed I guess.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: IOMAL on April 11, 2017, 06:35:09 pm
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Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: shaunK on July 22, 2017, 09:35:32 pm
Just wondering how people are finding the 330 units, seriously thinking about upgrading to one soon
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on July 22, 2017, 11:11:05 pm
Just wondering how people are finding the 330 units, seriously thinking about upgrading to one soon

Still using mine, had it since October 2016 and it's a cracking unit for the money (about £90 these days including shipping) - quick to startup, touchscreen is responsive and it does exactly what I need which is just to play music from my SD Card. I highly recommend it to those looking to add more features over the stock RCD300/RCD500 units while retaining the OEM look.

If you have an Apple iPhone you might want to spend a bit extra for the Apple CarPlay version for additional features like Map Navigation and iTunes integration, a bit pricey from the original RCD 330 but it's still price competitive when you compare to an aftermarket Double-DIN stereo with Apple CarPlay which is almost double the price (anywhere from £300+ without a fitting kit such as fascia's, adapters etc).
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: shaunK on July 22, 2017, 11:38:39 pm
Just wondering how people are finding the 330 units, seriously thinking about upgrading to one soon

Still using mine, had it since October 2016 and it's a cracking unit for the money (about £90 these days including shipping) - quick to startup, touchscreen is responsive and it does exactly what I need which is just to play music from my SD Card. I highly recommend it to those looking to add more features over the stock RCD300/RCD500 units while retaining the OEM look.

If you have an Apple iPhone you might want to spend a bit extra for the Apple CarPlay version for additional features like Map Navigation and iTunes integration, a bit pricey from the original RCD 330 but it's still price competitive when you compare to an aftermarket Double-DIN stereo with Apple CarPlay which is almost double the price (anywhere from £300+ without a fitting kit such as fascia's, adapters etc).

Cool thanks bud, I did look at that but don't overly like the idea of a cable connected to my phone. I have a Caddy for a work van that I use a SD card loaded with music and really like that. How do you find the phone operation on the 330 for making/receiving calls?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on July 23, 2017, 03:59:00 pm
Cool thanks bud, I did look at that but don't overly like the idea of a cable connected to my phone. I have a Caddy for a work van that I use a SD card loaded with music and really like that. How do you find the phone operation on the 330 for making/receiving calls?

Call quality is decent, people haven't had trouble hearing me from the other end despite the mic being on the left side. Receiving calls is fine but making calls directly from the unit can be a little bit slow which is why I tend to put my phone on a hands free magnetic phone holder and dial from there, it still goes through the car speakers via Bluetooth so no major issues there.

I like the fact that the RCD 330 will prompt you when your battery is running low (<15% I think) so you can plan to charge it up later and that you can view SMS text messages directly from the unit too.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: shaunK on August 02, 2017, 02:59:25 pm
Received my 330 today, just fired it up and really happy with it so far. It switching on and off with the ignition will I still experience battery drain issues and need to upgrade the CAN if it's doing this? Thanks
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spesh on August 03, 2017, 09:24:47 am
So I've had the RCD330g (non carplay) radio in for a few months while its great the lack of RDS auto tune is doing my head in meaning it will likely get pulled.  Aside from that the Bluetooth is bang on for music and calls (even though the mic is on the unit and not remote) and the screen/controls are great.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Rado16v on August 11, 2017, 02:55:30 pm
This is around £60 delivered now here:

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32823821734.html (https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32823821734.html)

And that's the more expensive red menu version, I don't know it differs to the more cheaper unit.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: shaunK on August 11, 2017, 03:55:16 pm
Has anyone been able to make album artwork show on the 330?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: willni on August 11, 2017, 06:04:43 pm
Just curious but if you got a 330 from the UK eg from a written-off polo etc and plugged it in, if it were like the rns510 copies where the stations don't show on Chinese versions, then that should be fixed with a UK version and possibly work with getting album artwork to work.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Rado16v on August 12, 2017, 06:36:48 am
For the user's that have this, can I use bluetooth to stream Spotify?

Also, has anyone managed to use mirror link successfully?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: david85williams on August 14, 2017, 07:57:50 am
Bluetooth and Spotify works fine with mine. Not tired mirror link as I have an iPhone.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Stig_gti on August 14, 2017, 08:17:57 am
Do the buttons on the steering wheel work?
And what about the climate control does that show and parking sensors.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: cossielee on September 06, 2017, 07:46:16 pm
where is the best place to get a rcn210 head unit from , theres some on ebay but I unsure if there are genuine
cheers
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: xokokx on November 23, 2017, 05:06:37 am
Received mine yesterday, all fitted up last night. Perfect condition. Not sure if i got the wrong Fakra cable but i had to leave one aerial unplugged but radio reception is fine. The only downside it seems is that i have lost volume control on the steering wheel. Any ideas if this can be rectified? It's no massive problem just a little niggle. The advantages of bluetooth and phone calls easily out weigh it. Very happy!!

Hi everyone, I'm new here.. Just got the rcd330 plus. My current ride mk5 gt sport.
Just want to check. I got the same fakra cable too.. So should I get thishttps://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?_mwBanner=1 (https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?_mwBanner=1) or use the one they supply?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on November 24, 2017, 12:45:54 am
Hi everyone, I'm new here.. Just got the rcd330 plus. My current ride mk5 gt sport.
Just want to check. I got the same fakra cable too.. So should I get thishttps://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?_mwBanner=1 (https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?_mwBanner=1) or use the one they supply?

Use the eBay link one, it's the exact seller I bought it from and it works fine with my RCD 330.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: xokokx on November 24, 2017, 02:36:28 am
Hi everyone, I'm new here.. Just got the rcd330 plus. My current ride mk5 gt sport.
Just want to check. I got the same fakra cable too.. So should I get thishttps://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?_mwBanner=1 (https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-Aerial-Adaptor-Single-Female-Right-Angle-Z-Fakra-to-Double-Male-Z-Fakra-/121871361750?_mwBanner=1) or use the one they supply?

Use the eBay link one, it's the exact seller I bought it from and it works fine with my RCD 330.
I installed it with one antenna. Seem to work too. Maybe radio reception won't be as strong as before
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: greenhornet on December 02, 2017, 06:48:53 pm
Anyone with a no name 187B version of the RCD330 can upgrade to Android Auto with firmware via USB. I've updated 2 units with my firmware and everything works fine. Anyone interested send me a PM  :smiley:
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Simba92 on December 13, 2017, 11:25:30 am
Anyone with a no name 187B version of the RCD330 can upgrade to Android Auto with firmware via USB. I've updated 2 units with my firmware and everything works fine. Anyone interested send me a PM  :smiley:

I’d certainly be interested. Please can you provide a link and some details.

This sounds great
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on December 22, 2017, 09:37:07 am
greenhornet has all the info including the link for the update here:

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110801&page=48
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Timmsy21 on February 11, 2018, 08:36:19 am
Bumping this thread as I’ve just got my 57 plate gti and looking at the 330 plus

Can anyone clear up the RDS and confirm if the unit below has the buttons round the right way?
Would bug the hell out of me if not

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132442790470
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on February 12, 2018, 06:34:17 am
Bumping this thread as I’ve just got my 57 plate gti and looking at the 330 plus

Can anyone clear up the RDS and confirm if the unit below has the buttons round the right way?
Would bug the hell out of me if not

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132442790470

That's the same one as I've got.
It will display the station names in small text below the current station you're on but won't show them in the presets.
As for buttons round the right way, do you mean the home button and app icons on the CarPlay screen? If so, then yes. Changing to different languages changes which side they are on.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Timmsy21 on February 12, 2018, 12:34:01 pm
Bumping this thread as I’ve just got my 57 plate gti and looking at the 330 plus

Can anyone clear up the RDS and confirm if the unit below has the buttons round the right way?
Would bug the hell out of me if not

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132442790470

That's the same one as I've got.
It will display the station names in small text below the current station you're on but won't show them in the presets.
As for buttons round the right way, do you mean the home button and app icons on the CarPlay screen? If so, then yes. Changing to different languages changes which side they are on.

Excellent thanks.
By buttons I meant the phone and setup ones. Some of the videos I’ve seen show them in th right place but have functions swapped round the other way
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on February 12, 2018, 08:15:44 pm
Bumping this thread as I’ve just got my 57 plate gti and looking at the 330 plus

Can anyone clear up the RDS and confirm if the unit below has the buttons round the right way?
Would bug the hell out of me if not

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132442790470

That's the same one as I've got.
It will display the station names in small text below the current station you're on but won't show them in the presets.
As for buttons round the right way, do you mean the home button and app icons on the CarPlay screen? If so, then yes. Changing to different languages changes which side they are on.

Excellent thanks.
By buttons I meant the phone and setup ones. Some of the videos I’ve seen show them in th right place but have functions swapped round the other way

Ah, ok. The buttons should be in the correct place. I think ones with the buttons in the wrong place are the ‘A’ versions that have have an update/upgrade done to them.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: mcscoobs on June 01, 2018, 09:34:24 am
Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead  :ashamed:

I'd like to upgrade my standard head unit (on my 2008 57 plate Golf GT TDI) to either the R330 Plus or the R340G. However, theres so many to choose from on AliExpress, i've no idea which are genuine ones that I'd want? And also, what else would I need with it, or is it literally plug and play? Bluetooth included I assume?

I want to upgrade the speakers to components too, so hoping this head unit would be suitable to do so? Thanks for any advice!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on June 02, 2018, 08:12:37 pm
Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead  :ashamed:

I'd like to upgrade my standard head unit (on my 2008 57 plate Golf GT TDI) to either the R330 Plus or the R340G. However, theres so many to choose from on AliExpress, i've no idea which are genuine ones that I'd want? And also, what else would I need with it, or is it literally plug and play? Bluetooth included I assume?

Just look for ones that are selling for a reasonable price and have good rep, there are many versions but the keyfactor is this:

Is a CD Player important to you?

YES
- Go for the 6RD 035 187 unit with the 5.0" screen. You can tell as it's the only RCD330 unit that has an eject button and CD slot.

NOT REALLY, I CAN LIVE WITHOUT
- See below...

Do you need Smartphone App Connect Functionality?

NO I DON'T NEED IT
Go for the 6.5" RCD330 6RD 035 187A unit, you can tell as it has the MUTE, SETUP & PHONE buttons on the right. Any Desay or Noname version is fine for this.

I HAVE AN APPLE IPHONE AND WOULD LIKE THIS FEATURE
Go for the 6.5" RCD330 6RD 035 187B unit, you can tell as it has PHONE, APP & SETUP buttons on the right. Any Desay or Noname version is fine for this.

I HAVE AN ANDROID SMARTPHONE AND WOULD LIKE THIS FEATURE

Two choices:

1) Go for the 6.5" RCD330 PLUS 6RD 035 187B unit (PHONE, APP & SETUP buttons on the right) that is "Noname" branded. You can tell if Apple CarPlay version reads out 210.81 rather than CPL24.V1.4.3@C1 which is manufactured by Desay. Why is this important? Because you can self-upgrade the unit software to include Android Auto on Noname units to have this feature.

2) Go for the 6.5" R340G 6RF 035 187E unit (PHONE, APP & SETUP buttons on the right). This is the original Appconnect unit released directly from the factory (not firmware flashed). You may find that this is more pricey compared to a flashed B version for the same function.

NOTES

The units are plug and play to the Car's Quadlock canbus so installation is generally easy. You may need to upgrade the Canbus Gateway to avoid battery drain, look out for any 7N0 907 530 which are generally fitted on to MK6 Golf's.

If you have a MFSW (Multifunction Steering Wheel) prefitted you may find this no longer works with the new unit, you can either buy a new Steering Wheel Module or use a Canbus emulator shown here (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/RCD330-MIB-Multifunction-Steering-Wheel-Button-Control-canbus-gateway-Simulator-Adapter-For-VW-Golf-5-6/32867792570.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.22.65b76fbc5IwIEj&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10340_5722915_10548_10341_5722615_10696_10192_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10301_10303_5722715_10059_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620,searchweb201603_55,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=71d7be62-b85b-4f71-a61f-470b872c31dd-3&algo_pvid=71d7be62-b85b-4f71-a61f-470b872c31dd&transAbTest=ae803_2&priceBeautifyAB=0) (this also apparantly fixes the battery drain problem thus making the Canbus Gateway upgrade redundant.)

Most sellers include the radio aerial adapter for you but it doesn't hurt to ask if they can send you the split two to one FAKRA adapter just to be sure for your MK5.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Bodyboarder81 on June 02, 2018, 09:11:39 pm
Or just buy mine in the for sale section , which is better than all the above  :grin:
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: mcscoobs on June 04, 2018, 01:13:11 pm
Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead  :ashamed:

I'd like to upgrade my standard head unit (on my 2008 57 plate Golf GT TDI) to either the R330 Plus or the R340G. However, theres so many to choose from on AliExpress, i've no idea which are genuine ones that I'd want? And also, what else would I need with it, or is it literally plug and play? Bluetooth included I assume?

Just look for ones that are selling for a reasonable price and have good rep, there are many versions but the keyfactor is this:

Is a CD Player important to you?

YES
- Go for the 6RD 035 187 unit with the 5.0" screen. You can tell as it's the only RCD330 unit that has an eject button and CD slot.

NOT REALLY, I CAN LIVE WITHOUT
- See below...

Do you need Smartphone App Connect Functionality?

NO I DON'T NEED IT
Go for the 6.5" RCD330 6RD 035 187A unit, you can tell as it has the MUTE, SETUP & PHONE buttons on the right. Any Desay or Noname version is fine for this.

I HAVE AN APPLE IPHONE AND WOULD LIKE THIS FEATURE
Go for the 6.5" RCD330 6RD 035 187B unit, you can tell as it has PHONE, APP & SETUP buttons on the right. Any Desay or Noname version is fine for this.

I HAVE AN ANDROID SMARTPHONE AND WOULD LIKE THIS FEATURE

Two choices:

1) Go for the 6.5" RCD330 PLUS 6RD 035 187B unit (PHONE, APP & SETUP buttons on the right) that is "Noname" branded. You can tell if Apple CarPlay version reads out 210.81 rather than CPL24.V1.4.3@C1 which is manufactured by Desay. Why is this important? Because you can self-upgrade the unit software to include Android Auto on Noname units to have this feature.

2) Go for the 6.5" R340G 6RF 035 187E unit (PHONE, APP & SETUP buttons on the right). This is the original Appconnect unit released directly from the factory (not firmware flashed). You may find that this is more pricey compared to a flashed B version for the same function.

NOTES

The units are plug and play to the Car's Quadlock canbus so installation is generally easy. You may need to upgrade the Canbus Gateway to avoid battery drain, look out for any 7N0 907 530 which are generally fitted on to MK6 Golf's.

If you have a MFSW (Multifunction Steering Wheel) prefitted you may find this no longer works with the new unit, you can either buy a new Steering Wheel Module or use a Canbus emulator shown here (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/RCD330-MIB-Multifunction-Steering-Wheel-Button-Control-canbus-gateway-Simulator-Adapter-For-VW-Golf-5-6/32867792570.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.22.65b76fbc5IwIEj&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10340_5722915_10548_10341_5722615_10696_10192_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10301_10303_5722715_10059_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620,searchweb201603_55,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=71d7be62-b85b-4f71-a61f-470b872c31dd-3&algo_pvid=71d7be62-b85b-4f71-a61f-470b872c31dd&transAbTest=ae803_2&priceBeautifyAB=0) (this also apparantly fixes the battery drain problem thus making the Canbus Gateway upgrade redundant.)

Most sellers include the radio aerial adapter for you but it doesn't hurt to ask if they can send you the split two to one FAKRA adapter just to be sure for your MK5.

Quality post, thank you!

So I want Carplay, so have decided on the RCD330 6RD 035 187B. I found this on ebay, is this the exact one I need?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-6-5-MIB-RCD330-Plus-Original-CarPlay-Version-B-Stereo-6RD-035-187-B/252934531446?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&clk_rvr_id=1553703412607&rmvSB=true

Also, read a lot about updating the Canbus... I've got a 2008 57 plate GT TDI, obviously want to avoid battery drain, but I've no idea what canbus I need...? Do I need to get anything else, or is it literally that HU and the revised canbus? Thanks!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: PatchySan on June 04, 2018, 03:40:51 pm
Quality post, thank you!

So I want Carplay, so have decided on the RCD330 6RD 035 187B. I found this on ebay, is this the exact one I need?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-6-5-MIB-RCD330-Plus-Original-CarPlay-Version-B-Stereo-6RD-035-187-B/252934531446?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&clk_rvr_id=1553703412607&rmvSB=true

Also, read a lot about updating the Canbus... I've got a 2008 57 plate GT TDI, obviously want to avoid battery drain, but I've no idea what canbus I need...? Do I need to get anything else, or is it literally that HU and the revised canbus? Thanks!

Yes that unit will work fine for Apple CarPlay, the one you listed is the Desay unit.

You need a 7N0 907 530 Canbus Gateway to be on the safe side, some earlier 1N0 907 530 gateways exceeding the letter L and not before should theoretically be safe too (though I haven't tried this). As yours was a MY2008 you may find it has the correct canbus gateway to begin with, easiest way is to do a scan with VAGCOM (VCDS) and see what version it reports back.

Alternatively you can buy that Quadlock emulator dongle I've listed earlier which apparently solves the draining problem without needing to change the gateway. It will also gain back the MK5 MFSW controls for the RCD330 too.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Chesto18 on June 12, 2018, 08:21:40 am
Bumping this. Just ordered myself a 330 plus with CarPlay thanks to this informative thread.

Car is an ‘08 plate GTi. Hoping I don’t need a canbus gateway.

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: mcscoobs on June 12, 2018, 08:50:01 am
Bumping this. Just ordered myself a 330 plus with CarPlay thanks to this informative thread.

Car is an ‘08 plate GTi. Hoping I don’t need a canbus gateway.

Did you get one off eBay? There's so many on there, all ranging from £120 - £160... Just trying to understand if I'd need Desay or NoName (I'm an iPhone user) and everything I seem to read up on is regards Androids.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Chesto18 on June 12, 2018, 08:43:47 pm
Bumping this. Just ordered myself a 330 plus with CarPlay thanks to this informative thread.

Car is an ‘08 plate GTi. Hoping I don’t need a canbus gateway.

Did you get one off eBay? There's so many on there, all ranging from £120 - £160... Just trying to understand if I'd need Desay or NoName (I'm an iPhone user) and everything I seem to read up on is regards Androids.

Yup. £127 delivered. Here’s hoping.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on June 24, 2018, 07:17:26 pm
OUt of interest what is the sound quality like on these OEM upgraded units verses the original head unit. The RNS 330G plus looks attractive at the moment and interested to hear if the theres a difference.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Chesto18 on June 25, 2018, 08:30:01 am
OUt of interest what is the sound quality like on these OEM upgraded units verses the original head unit. The RNS 330G plus looks attractive at the moment and interested to hear if the theres a difference.

My new 330 plus is definitely an improvement over the standard 300 if that helps.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: jgalla89 on June 25, 2018, 10:40:12 am
I currently have and MFD2 in my 2007 mk5 and im thinking of a 330 plus. Is it a straight swap with he cables, ive seen I will maybe need a canbus upgrade and maybe the Fakra radio aerial antenna adaptor.

anything else?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Pashka on June 26, 2018, 03:57:18 pm
I currently have and MFD2 in my 2007 mk5 and im thinking of a 330 plus. Is it a straight swap with he cables, ive seen I will maybe need a canbus upgrade and maybe the Fakra radio aerial antenna adaptor.

anything else?
you would need can gateway and arial adaptor.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: jgalla89 on June 27, 2018, 08:57:18 am
I currently have and MFD2 in my 2007 mk5 and im thinking of a 330 plus. Is it a straight swap with he cables, ive seen I will maybe need a canbus upgrade and maybe the Fakra radio aerial antenna adaptor.

anything else?
you would need can gateway and arial adaptor.

cool, wheres the best place to get a coded can gateway?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on June 27, 2018, 11:20:13 pm
I currently have and MFD2 in my 2007 mk5 and im thinking of a 330 plus. Is it a straight swap with he cables, ive seen I will maybe need a canbus upgrade and maybe the Fakra radio aerial antenna adaptor.

anything else?
you would need can gateway and arial adaptor.


cool, wheres the best place to get a coded can gateway?

Would also be keen to know, ordered 330g plus with Fakra cable. Going to chance it with battery drain but would be good to know just incase. Am i also right in thinking you still get auto dim function, speed sensitive volume and radio station names?

Im also planning to add multi functions later aswell - mines manual 55 reg with Mid cluster. Would this need new steering module and slip ring. Im guessing you still keep radio station select controls?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Chesto18 on June 28, 2018, 12:08:57 am
I currently have and MFD2 in my 2007 mk5 and im thinking of a 330 plus. Is it a straight swap with he cables, ive seen I will maybe need a canbus upgrade and maybe the Fakra radio aerial antenna adaptor.

anything else?
you would need can gateway and arial adaptor.


cool, wheres the best place to get a coded can gateway?

Would also be keen to know, ordered 330g plus with Fakra cable. Going to chance it with battery drain but would be good to know just incase. Am i also right in thinking you still get auto dim function, speed sensitive volume and radio station names?

Im also planning to add multi functions later aswell - mines manual 55 reg with Mid cluster. Would this need new steering module and slip ring. Im guessing you still keep radio station select controls?

Auto dim yes, speed sensitivity yes (is an option in settings) radio station names no, not really. Mine primarily displays the frequency in the presets, but when you select that radio station it does show the station name in small letters under the frequency. But not off the preset list in mine unfortunately. And only on FM.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on June 28, 2018, 09:10:54 am
@Chesto18 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27005) Thanks. Sounds like its got some handy reatures. Am i also right in thinking you can also buy a cable that prevents battery drain that attached to the quadlock? Of course avoiding the need for a updated Canbus? I read this somewhere and Tried searching but not much luck.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Chesto18 on June 28, 2018, 09:32:54 am
I’ve not heard of that. Mine is a 2008 so took my chances on battery drain and it’s been fine.

I’ve read other people just wiring the stereo straight to the ignition which will avoid the need to update the canbus.

Radio will work without the Farka cable, I ordered one but it’s not arrived and it’s been fine so far.

It’s a really good unit and CarPlay works well.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on July 01, 2018, 07:56:52 am
@Chesto18 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27005) Thanks. Sounds like its got some handy reatures. Am i also right in thinking you can also buy a cable that prevents battery drain that attached to the quadlock? Of course avoiding the need for a updated Canbus? I read this somewhere and Tried searching but not much luck.

That's correct. I've posted about it and provided a link too. Try searching my posts and you should find it

Nevermind, I found it for you:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32847626802.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32847626802&productSubject=BODENLA-RCD330-MIB-RCD510-Multifunction-Steering-Wheel-Button-Control-Simulator-Adapter-For-VW-Golf-5-6
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on July 15, 2018, 01:09:19 am
@Chesto18 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27005) Thanks. Sounds like its got some handy reatures. Am i also right in thinking you can also buy a cable that prevents battery drain that attached to the quadlock? Of course avoiding the need for a updated Canbus? I read this somewhere and Tried searching but not much luck.

That's correct. I've posted about it and provided a link too. Try searching my posts and you should find it

Nevermind, I found it for you:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32847626802.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32847626802&productSubject=BODENLA-RCD330-MIB-RCD510-Multifunction-Steering-Wheel-Button-Control-Simulator-Adapter-For-VW-Golf-5-6

Managed to fit my RCD330 today! Great unit and very good value. Unfortunately do seem to have battery drain so have ordered this connector. I dont have mfsw yet but plan to in future. Is there any specific installation requirements for the cable or is it just plug and play?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on July 15, 2018, 10:15:44 am
@Chesto18 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27005) Thanks. Sounds like its got some handy reatures. Am i also right in thinking you can also buy a cable that prevents battery drain that attached to the quadlock? Of course avoiding the need for a updated Canbus? I read this somewhere and Tried searching but not much luck.

That's correct. I've posted about it and provided a link too. Try searching my posts and you should find it

Nevermind, I found it for you:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32847626802.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32847626802&productSubject=BODENLA-RCD330-MIB-RCD510-Multifunction-Steering-Wheel-Button-Control-Simulator-Adapter-For-VW-Golf-5-6

Managed to fit my RCD330 today! Great unit and very good value. Unfortunately do seem to have battery drain so have ordered this connector. I dont have mfsw yet but plan to in future. Is there any specific installation requirements for the cable or is it just plug and play?

Can't help there, sorry. I didn't need it as already upgraded canbus and upgraded to mk6 MFSW
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on July 18, 2018, 10:23:30 pm
Hopefully it does the job. Otherwise its a good unit and makes the dash look much nicer. Only complaint i have is the screen does suffer from glare somewhat- although window tint would see to that. I also cant find anyway to autodim the screen when the lights turn on. Ive looked through the settings, is there something im missing?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on July 19, 2018, 12:20:53 pm
Hmmm. I know mine does dim the map when using apple CarPlay when my lights come on when in auto mode or if I turn them manually when already driving and map is displayed.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on July 25, 2018, 10:57:59 pm
Hmmm. I know mine does dim the map when using apple CarPlay when my lights come on when in auto mode or if I turn them manually when already driving and map is displayed.

Ah found mine does that too. Wondered if does it outside of maps but i dont think its does.
Overall pretty happy with it and helps update interior

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Burl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fflic.kr%2Fp%2FKNJzbx%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.staticflickr.com%2F919%2F28752206167_0727d44348_c.jpg&hash=7f1d82f3f2c63f1663e61ef73ee134d35fe5a406)[/url]image1 (https://flic.kr/p/KNJzbx) by Adam Gagliani (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144748182@N07/), on Flickr[/img]
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on July 25, 2018, 10:58:58 pm
Hmmm. I know mine does dim the map when using apple CarPlay when my lights come on when in auto mode or if I turn them manually when already driving and map is displayed.

Ah found mine does that too. Wondered if does it outside of maps but i dont think it does.
Overall pretty happy with it and helps update interior

Really recommend TuneIN app as alternative to DAB

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/919/28752206167_0727d44348_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KNJzbx)image1 (https://flic.kr/p/KNJzbx) by Adam Gagliani (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144748182@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Mark_DF05 on August 09, 2018, 12:23:40 pm
Gonna go for one of these now you can get the msfw to work with it. Has anyone purchased from this seller?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/RCD330-Plus-RCD330G-Carplay-MIB-Radio-For-VW-Golf-5-6-Jetta-MK5-MK6-CC-Tiguan/523203_32832998742.html?spm=2114.search0204.3.1.488b5cf4Pp1sBS&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10548_10341_10696_10190_10084_10083_5011611_10618_10307_10820_5011511_10303_5723611_10059_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_16,ppcSwitch_3_ppcChannel&algo_expid=559cba94-1421-4f3c-9543-be32302513a6-0&algo_pvid=559cba94-1421-4f3c-9543-be32302513a6&priceBeautifyAB=0
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Bearings on August 09, 2018, 05:21:12 pm
Gonna go for one of these now you can get the msfw to work with it. Has anyone purchased from this seller?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/RCD330-Plus-RCD330G-Carplay-MIB-Radio-For-VW-Golf-5-6-Jetta-MK5-MK6-CC-Tiguan/523203_32832998742.html?spm=2114.search0204.3.1.488b5cf4Pp1sBS&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10548_10341_10696_10190_10084_10083_5011611_10618_10307_10820_5011511_10303_5723611_10059_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_16,ppcSwitch_3_ppcChannel&algo_expid=559cba94-1421-4f3c-9543-be32302513a6-0&algo_pvid=559cba94-1421-4f3c-9543-be32302513a6&priceBeautifyAB=0

I've got an RCD330 - same as the one you linked to, the steering wheel adapter (link below), a CH steering module, a G-rev cruise stalk and I've got all the MFSW buttons working except the Track Up / Track Down buttons on the right side of my steering wheel. The buttons (except the Up/Down) all worked without the adapter so that might not be needed. I was hoping to be able to program the CH module with VCDS to allow me to change tracks but I've not been able to yet. The highline computer won't go into the Audio sub-menu which I think is part of the problem. So far, the only fix people mention often is to use a Mk6 MFSW with 12 buttons. The Up/Down buttons still work fine for the other computer functions.

Great stereo but slightly annoyed that I can't change tracks from the steering wheel though, even though my old chinese Android double-DIN could do it. It's easy enough to reach over to the stereo and manually tap the app to adjust tracks.

I've got an 2005 Mk5 GTI with a MK5 MFSW - like the one on the left - https://goo.gl/images/uiF8Wi

MFSW module adapter which I purchased - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/RCD330-Multifunction-Steering-Wheel-Button-Control-Canbus-gateway-Simulator-Adapter-For-VW-Golf-5-6-Jetta/32867792570.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7a444c4d4W9fHc


Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Mark_DF05 on August 10, 2018, 09:17:31 am
@Bearings (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9243) Ah thanks for the reply mate. Agree, it's a shame about the track up/down buttons not working - I initially looked at these units a while back and the lack of working msfw buttons put me off. I think i'll be able sacrifice those 2 buttons for the added features this has over my RCD510. I was intending on getting the adapter too but might risk it now since yours worked without it.

I suppose for the price you can't expect it to be flawless.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Bearings on August 10, 2018, 04:07:31 pm
@Mark_DF05 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9983)

Yeah, for the money it costs - the stereo is good value IMO. I need to have another look using VCDS and the CH module in particular. The one thing I am kicking myself about it not properly recording the setup of my original AJ (?) steering module before removing it. It's a bit of a pain to reinstall the old module back just to look at the coding of it.

I wonder if I can work out the coding from my older VCDS logs? Something to look into when I have a moment...

The trouble is that I only really use my car at weekends, and I need it to be reliable so I don't want to be making changes and potentially stopping the car from working at the moment.

The only other thing that people have commented on is that the mic can pick up a lot of road-noise in the background on phone calls, but I can hear them clearly. It's not a feature I use that often so I'm not bothered by it.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: andyiseddy02 on August 11, 2018, 07:31:44 am
Please advise on the best option. I have at the minute a Veyron, Chinese VW lookalike head unit.

Bad points.
SatNav is next to useless, takes forever to find a signal.
Radio is terrible, crackly and only seems to pick up the strongest stations.
I have the I-pod running through it and it takes three or four goes before it picks it up and starts working.

Good points.
Bluetooth works well for phone etc.
Works with the MFSW.

I had a trusted car audio place look at it and they said the units are cheap and the components inside are not the best that is why it does not work so well. (They did not try and sell me a better unit).

So.
Not too bothered about the phone usage (nobody rings me anyway).
Would like bluetooth to use the phone SatNav.
Would want to keep the Ipod connected.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on August 13, 2018, 08:56:22 am
@Bearings (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9243) Ah thanks for the reply mate. Agree, it's a shame about the track up/down buttons not working - I initially looked at these units a while back and the lack of working msfw buttons put me off. I think i'll be able sacrifice those 2 buttons for the added features this has over my RCD510. I was intending on getting the adapter too but might risk it now since yours worked without it.

I suppose for the price you can't expect it to be flawless.

Bearings' MFSW buttons will be working without the can adaptor due to him having the CH steering wheel module.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Tin Robot on August 13, 2018, 03:39:25 pm
Anyone had one of these RNS510 lookalikes?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112752621180?ViewItem=&item=112752621180

I don't mind spending more if I could get DAB and Apple Carplay but nothing below £800 seems available. The guy selling these says that the android ones drain the battery etc and aren't plug and play.

Ideally I would have someone fit it all up and stick in rear parking sensors or a camera at the same time. An external mic is essential. Don't mind spending up to £500. Perhaps a non oem look may be the only option?

Totally out of my depth tbh
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Bearings on August 13, 2018, 04:00:58 pm
@Bearings (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9243) Ah thanks for the reply mate. Agree, it's a shame about the track up/down buttons not working - I initially looked at these units a while back and the lack of working msfw buttons put me off. I think i'll be able sacrifice those 2 buttons for the added features this has over my RCD510. I was intending on getting the adapter too but might risk it now since yours worked without it.

I suppose for the price you can't expect it to be flawless.

Bearings' MFSW buttons will be working without the can adaptor due to him having the CH steering wheel module.

@The Red Warrior

This is a long shot but I don't suppose you know how I can get my Up / Down buttons working again with VCDS coding?  I saw a thread on another forum saying the CH module works on both LIN 1.3 and 2.0 which was why I got one, but as usual with a lot of internet forums, it was a bit light on details as to what needed to be done.

Bit reluctant to drop another 300-400 pounds on a Mk6 GTI 12-button MFSW and airbag if there is any other solution available.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on August 14, 2018, 05:16:37 am
No I don't sorry. My previous wheel wasn't a multi function one anyway.
I do recommend the mk6 wheel though. It's the second best mod I've done, after my APR tune. I got mine second hand, but still mint condition from a member on this site. You could always sell your current multi function wheel to offset the cost.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spicypixel on August 15, 2018, 10:58:47 am
Up and down don't work because they're reliant on being able to access the Radio menu on your MFD, which doesn't work with the RCD330, as far as I can tell none of the mk5/6 compatible MFDs will show you information, not a clue what the vento/polo must use then on the cars they actually come with in india...
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Bearings on August 15, 2018, 11:52:08 am
Up and down don't work because they're reliant on being able to access the Radio menu on your MFD, which doesn't work with the RCD330, as far as I can tell none of the mk5/6 compatible MFDs will show you information, not a clue what the vento/polo must use then on the cars they actually come with in india...

...and therefore they need to be controlled by dedicated specific buttons. Makes logical sense. At least there is a simple workaround by stop being lazy, and touching the radio's display to do what I want!  :smiley: At least the volume buttons work!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: spicypixel on August 18, 2018, 05:23:47 pm
As a tip, at least in google play music might apply to spotify, if you roll the right hand knob till you get to next track you can just hit that button on the front instead of faffing with the touchscreen for additional skips.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Mark_DF05 on August 29, 2018, 12:39:08 pm
Finally got one of these and fitted it at the weekend. So far so good, carplay works really well as does streaming and calling via bluetooth. Radio signal isn't the best at times but can live with that for the amount of time I actually listen to it. Lack of station name in the presets is also slightly annoying but knew about this before purchasing. Overall I'd say it's a worthwhile upgrade unless you have a RNS510 already in which case I wouldn't bother.

@Bearings (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9243) I purchased the adapter for the mfsw and interestingly the skip track function actually works however it's more annoying if anything as everytime I cycle through the MFD menus it skips the tracks!! Hoping I can get it coded out somehow. The Phone button on the left of the wheel doesn't work - is this the same with yours?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on August 29, 2018, 05:00:50 pm
Since fitting mine ive had Treble speaker codes pop up after a scan. They seem to work - theres slightly less clarity from them but more punchy bass (however that might be the head unit) does that seem normal after installation.
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Stanipkiss on September 03, 2018, 03:12:29 pm
 I am very keen on the RCD330 Plus and want to add a reverse camera to my MK6 Jetta but does anyone have an uptodate link from AliExpress or eBay from a reputable seller?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Mark_DF05 on September 05, 2018, 12:34:34 pm
The skip tracks feature has become quite annoying now. Don't suppose anyone knows if it's possible to disable it so that I can cycle through the MFD menu with the mfsw up and down buttons without the stereo skipping to the next track?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Pumbachow on September 14, 2018, 01:09:49 pm
Hopefully it does the job. Otherwise its a good unit and makes the dash look much nicer. Only complaint i have is the screen does suffer from glare somewhat- although window tint would see to that. I also cant find anyway to autodim the screen when the lights turn on. Ive looked through the settings, is there something im missing?

Hi Ads22 - did the canbus emulator cable fix your battery drain issue?

I have a '05 Mk5 GTI and am looking for android auto and want to use my MFSW.

I've ordered the RCD330 6RD035187B together with a canbus emulator as linked by PatchySan on page 8 of this tread (also link to the items i ordered below).

headunit:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CarPlay-Android-Auto-RCD330-RCD340-Plus-Noname-Radio-187B-C210-For-VW-Tiguan-Golf-5-6/32847367189.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.70ac4c4dnWovo1 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CarPlay-Android-Auto-RCD330-RCD340-Plus-Noname-Radio-187B-C210-For-VW-Tiguan-Golf-5-6/32847367189.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.70ac4c4dnWovo1)

Canbus emulator / MFSW adaptor:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/RCD330-Multifunction-Steering-Wheel-Button-Control-Canbus-gateway-Simulator-Adapter-For-VW-Golf-5-6-Jetta/32867792570.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.70ac4c4dnWovo1 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/RCD330-Multifunction-Steering-Wheel-Button-Control-Canbus-gateway-Simulator-Adapter-For-VW-Golf-5-6-Jetta/32867792570.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.70ac4c4dnWovo1)

Eagerly waiting for delivery - will update when i get round to slotting this in. If i do end up with the dreaded drain i'll try piggybacking to an ignition switched power supply from the fuse box using one of these bad boys:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071DYPXKG/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=A1G607OWBV8NZ8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071DYPXKG/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=A1G607OWBV8NZ8&psc=1)

Got the idea off a youtube video:

https://youtu.be/dg2Tv-vKPOo?t=5m54s (https://youtu.be/dg2Tv-vKPOo?t=5m54s)

anyway, hope this is a helpful summary of my plans...hope it works!

Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Pumbachow on September 22, 2018, 11:57:13 am
Quick update..stereo and canbus emulator arrived with no customs issues. Fitted in under 15 mins all plug and play and everything works perfectly, including all steering wheel buttons! No battery drain either so I'm really happy with the result! Considering getting a rear view camera from the same supplier...
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on September 23, 2018, 06:14:40 am
Great result  :happy2:

Let us know how you go with the camera if you get it..
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Lazy Andy on September 23, 2018, 08:38:36 am
Hi everyone, first time poster and as expected it’s a question! 

This thread has been really informative so thanks to all of those who have contributed. 

I’ve just bought the bullet and installed and RCD330g “b” spec into my MY06 GTi with the steering wheel module from Ali Expess and the aerial adapter from the UK.  All went extremely smoothly and works unexpectedly well... bar one thing :)

The up / down button on the steering wheel are confused and change the MFD and the track / station simultaneously.  I have a mid line display and later 8 button wheel (L - vol, mute, tel. R - menu, OK, up, down).

My suspicion is that this a car issue rather than a stereo issue as the up down buttons only charged the MFD before and never the audio.

Any ideas how this can be resolved?

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Ads22 on September 24, 2018, 12:30:40 am
Quick update..stereo and canbus emulator arrived with no customs issues. Fitted in under 15 mins all plug and play and everything works perfectly, including all steering wheel buttons! No battery drain either so I'm really happy with the result! Considering getting a rear view camera from the same supplier...

Sorry for the late reply Yes thats the cable i got. Glad yours is okay, mines been fine since fitting. Interesting all your MFSW buttons work. Do you have high or mid line dials. Im considering adding MFSW buttons to my standard wheel. Does that also include skip track and phone buttons?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: coolhandluke on September 24, 2018, 05:31:53 am
Did you loose the functionality of the CD player if fitted and I'm assuming the HiLine display won't show sat nav instructions?
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: Pumbachow on September 25, 2018, 11:48:39 pm
I think I have a high line display...

yes the up and down arrows on the right side of the mfsw skip tracks. Star button is mute and phone button answers / ends calls. Double press of the phone button  redials. Obvs vol buttons work too  :happy2:

No nav info on the cluster display...I've now only got the trip / mpg screen or the settings menu. I've lost the radio / cd info screen. I'll probably just switch the display off as annoyingly skipping tracks also changes the trip display. Ideally I'd like a digital speed displayed.  No idea of that's possible though.

Will hold off on ordering the camera till I've had the service done on Monday at Colin Gunning in Hertfordshire... major service including cam belt, water pump and dsg service. Pretty sure there's a hole in the back box too so considering going aftermarket (milltek?)
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: shoaybmakda on April 07, 2019, 11:17:45 am
Hi all

Sorry to bring up an old thread - can the RCD330 be used with the MDI port? I only ask because I'm not too keen on having wires on show and as all my stuff is on the iPod the MDI dock is ideal for me to keep things hidden and keeping the oem steering wheel controls.

Thanks
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: The Red Warrior on April 08, 2019, 01:47:10 am
In a word, no
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: shoaybmakda on April 14, 2019, 09:58:56 pm
Thanks.. the search for an rns510 continues then lol
Title: Re: Which stereo?
Post by: ksamyui on November 03, 2022, 10:07:30 pm
Quick update..stereo and canbus emulator arrived with no customs issues. Fitted in under 15 mins all plug and play and everything works perfectly, including all steering wheel buttons! No battery drain either so I'm really happy with the result! Considering getting a rear view camera from the same supplier...

How’s this been for you after a couple of years? Is the mic in the unit any good?

Cheers