MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Members Rides => Other VAG => Topic started by: GVK on October 03, 2021, 06:39:58 am
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Picked up this yesterday, from Nottingham 140ps GT TDI NAV with DCC.... 61 mpg on return journey home.
Had a boost leak from where new turbo fitted, turbo muffler seal was missing!
Has a dent on bonnet, no AC and the locking wheel nut key is missing. Other than that it's a nice car to drive. Will remap, and lower it on H&R or Eibach springs. Have coded out the ESP/ASR function so 5 sec press turns everything off as per BMW. Coded the RNS510 to allow NAV functions up to 60 km/h, and messed about with some of the lighting functions. Used OBD eleven pro.
Nice handling car for stock, pity it has budget sh*te tyres on 235/40x18 - will get some new ones on the front at least AsAP.
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Nice car - good colour,
Bonnet dent can't be that bad - it isnt noticable in the pictures.
Missing locking key is a pain.
I had the key for my old Mk4, but through use it decided it didn't want to be a key any more...
Invested in 2 or 3 types of removers, I had managed to get 3 of the bolts of myself, the last one refused to come off.
After visited several tyre places & even called the RAC, I ended up going to an Estonian dude who apparently was ex-special forces, he charged in advance and got out the biggest snap-on impact gun I have seen + bolt extractor - only 2 minutes later it was off and I was £50 lighter.
IIRC - the best type is a giant version of the Irwin bolt removers like below, seems to be some chinese versions on ebay:
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But what tool you can use will be dictated by space in the wheel around the bolt.
If that was my Mk5 with Monzas, I would have been completely f'd - too deep and no space, leaving no option but drilling the bolt out.
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I know a guy who works at VW to get a master key set... Should be easy, if not a job for local tyre shop as it needs front tyres as got budget crap on it - :fighting2:
Dent is slap bang in the middle of bonnet, looks like somethings dropped on it. :jumping:
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Part number required for the shifter linkage for an S3/Edition 30 - this has got too much throw on the gear shifter. :driver:
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Part number required for the shifter linkage for an S3/Edition 30 - this has got too much throw on the gear shifter. :driver:
let the modifying begin
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Linkage ordered will post part number up tomorrow.
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Painted brake calipers and disc bells black today, removed rear light tints
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Crowsons VW Spalding took off the locking nuts free of charge and I bought a set for £18
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Hover car
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Whilst it was jacked up yesterday I had a look around and found causing of a rattle going over manhole covers, the NSR bump stop is perished and the shock cover is just floating in mid air... Going to put a pair on and H&R lowering springs. :jumping:
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Short shifter fitted
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Part number
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H&R Lowering springs fitted, -30mm ride quality is OEM, looks subtley lowered , not slammed.
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Nice one, getting stuck in already I see :happy2:
What remap are you thinking of getting?
Cheers for the S3 shifter p/n. I might sling that onto the MK6, although to be fair, the shift didn't feel any different to mine on the test drive.
Anyway, what's next? ARBs? Brakes? etc.
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Next on the list is -- Super pro rear 24mm adjustable ARB, Super pro front ball joints & the same EBC orange stuff pads I had in the Edition 30. My mate is an agent for a company up North who do maps I forget their name but he can do me a file for 'cheap' 177bhp/395nm.Mates rates and all that.
Found it - http://www.bhp-uk.net
https://bhp-uk.net/shop-homepage/find-a-remap-stage-1-all-makes-models/volkswagen-ecu-remapping/volkswagen-scirocco-ecu-remapping-turbo-tuning-performance/ecu-remapping-performance-engine-tuning-vw-scirocco-tdi-20-cr-140
I really want a set of 8x18 Speedline turinis on it, think they look the nuts in Anthracite, but they're £1100 without tyres!!!!
So might just get a cheap set of BBS Pescara 'style' wheels, the classic Y spoke design, seen some on Wheelbase's site
https://www.wheelbasealloys.com/alloy-wheels/romac/radium/silver/18-inch/volkswagen/scirocco/mk3
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Cleaned again! Washed and dried, used some Autobrite trade glaze polish which comes off easy...
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As the car has DCC it has a level sensor on each suspension arm, one is broken on mine NSF, asked for a quote from VW............................£170 EACH!! :signLOL: Can get non-genuine for £30 on line, might just araldite it together or something....
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VW............................£170 EACH!! :signLOL: Can get non-genuine for £30 on line, might just araldite it together or something....
VW love to tax their sensors - I replaced my rear level sensor for light leveling with an aftermarket one - its been fine.
Suspect someone had dropped the arm and hadn't undone the level.
Looking good in very little time - how is it driving now after initial fixes?
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I might get a non gen then if ok.
Going really well, love driving it!
Handles so well due to the wide track
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Looking good, great colour.
Those wheels look great :happy2: Love the Turinis as well, very OEM looking, but gone up a lot in price :surprised:
180ish bhp is pretty good and should hopefully liven up the bottom end a bit as well. They're a bit flat down low. Did a scan on the MK6, Flash count = 1 :grin: No way it's performance mapped though, too slow. Hopefully just a dealer update. I wonder what the difference is between 140 and 170 GTD? Boost pressure? Bigger turbo?
Glad you're enjoying it. So much easier to drive in traffic. Just lift your foot off the clutch. The slow idle speed and lack of torque in the ED30 can't do that :grin:
God we're getting old getting excited by a diesel :grin:
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140 is same hardware as 170 just different software and EGT sensor, have been reading up on it.
I know mate we must be getting old, well I'm 50 in January!
Mine has flash count 2 guess dealer updates...
edit - 170 has different turbo.
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Its not what you know but who.
Went into local VW dealer stores today, guy I used to work with runs it. Asked him how much the genuine VW 0w30 LONG LIFE 3 oil is for the Scirocco (Cant put any old crap in it, has DPF) "Well Gary, it should be £60 but you can have it for £30"
Result!!
So gave car oil, fuel and pollen filter service using all genuine parts , pollen filter was black! I put an air filter element in when we fixed the turbo muffler leak.
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Nice price!
Shouldn't take a lot to boost up a 140 to 170 then. A new VAG indie has opened up near me recently so I'll ask if he has a VW ODIS machine and he can sling the probe and software onto it. Should only be an hour's labour and the part. Way cheaper than a £300-£500 remap!
Yeah I was wondering about the DPF and whether our 09 plate has one. Does it not need Ad blu? Or did that come later? I know diddly squat about diesels :grin:
I noticed the other day the TDI pulls the same 80mph @ 3000rpm as the ED30. I thought diesel gearing would be taller!
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No ad blue on the earlier DPF vehicles mate.
I got the info on the 140-170 off TDI CLUB forum, will find a link and post up here.
Ahh, I posted previously that the 140-170 was same hardware, looks like the 170 has bigger turbo too....
"The cheapest and easiest way to tune a CBDB engine is to flash the original .sgo flash from the CBBB engine (GTD - 170hp).
You need to change the EGT-sensor from 03L906088JG to 03L906088BS. The CBDB Sensor will not work (different resistance).
Flash the ECU to 03L906022LC.
Then you can tune the 022LC (CBBB) File, but i recommend to change the Turbo to the bigger CBBB Turbo.
CBBB Turbo: 03L253056C.
You will get over 200hp with that Turbo and ECU Type. Why i know that? because i did it that way in the past ;)
You dont need to change the clutch, i used the stock CBDB clutch with 215hp and 420nm torque. (Its the same clutch like on the CBBB engine)"
From - https://forums.tdiclub.com/index.php?threads/2-0cr-tdi-140-cbdb.476705/
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Ah OK, that's annoying. I won't be allowed to fit a bigger turbo :grin:
Mind you, he didn't say the bigger turbo was mandatory though :wink:
Good info mate :happy2:
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Ref gearing mine does 2k rpm @ 80 mph ? :stupid: :driver:
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Does it? That sounds about right! I was looking at the tacho from the passenger side but next time I drive it, I'll check and confirm. I did think the gearing was a bit short for a diesel :grin:
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Yeah our MK6 does 80mph at 2K as well.
Been talked out of a remap by my local VAG specialist. He sees too many clogged DPFs and knackered fuel pumps/injectors from remaps, but obviously a mapper will keep quiet about that.
I might just bolt on all the GTD hardware instead and flash it accordingly, which he agreed would be the better solution.
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Clutch out noise stops, press clutch RATTLY NOISE starts until pressing clutch all the way stops noise. In my mind it's DMF but generally DMF noises are with clutch out and stop with clutch depressed.
With clutch halfway pressed it's LOUD!
What do you think?
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Sounds like a dead release bearing. Had something similar on my old Lupo GTI
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Thanks - it's one or the other will find out next week!
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Just got car back,DMF was toast!! Bits of the springs were floating around the bell housing. All silent now. :pomppomp:
Clutch kit and flywheel, Sachs parts were used.
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Was the DMF 'flushed' or replaced?
Something to watch out for with ours, but I give it beans when I drive it :grin:
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New flywheel and clutch fitted mate, my friend says it's 'cos I pull away in 2nd gear :P
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Ah sorry mate, I misread that as DPF :doh: :grin:
I must admit, I sometimes pull away in second as well. It doesn't seem to mind it though :grin:
I need to get one of those "clutch to start" bypass looms as I hate cranking with no oil pressure on the thrust bearing.
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:signLOL: Flush a DMF I thought you'd gone crackers Kev!
Yeah know what you mean about having to press the clutch :stupid:
I've held back on doing the remap, I don't really want to fork out for injectors and fuel pump ideally.
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No, same mate. TBH the 140 feels pretty brisk anyway to be fair. I've been reading up on it and some folk say remapping the 140 to 170 makes for a punchier engine than the factory 170 as its less laggy.
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MOT time, failed on 2 anti roll bar drop links and a side repeater inop.
Side repeater is an LED unit £50 from VW dealer!
Pair of drop links from ECP £34 - Had to cut the nuts off with a grinder! :evilgrin:
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Another year another MOT, passed with just advisories on front pads wearing thin and slight play in osf drop link.
We fitted neww links last year, Starline crap from ECP. Won't be getting them again. :scared:
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Tsk, how could you :grin: Lemforder minimum :happy2:
Good news on the pass though :happy2:
Done anything fruity with it yet? Our MK6 is still standard :grin: I looked into it and the faff wasn't worth it tbh and too many comments about remaps causing frequent DPF regens. Not in for that nonsense.
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No not done anything with it 'fruity' -it does it's regens at weird times, mostly when idling, which shakes the car runs rough, fan on flat out.
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2009 Scirocco 2.0 TDI once in a blue moon I get a beep and ESP fault on centre dash. Only does it on initial start up over night like I say very random. No ESP/ABS lights stay on when it does it. No fault codes (checked on VCDS and OBD eleven. Weird one. Any ideas?
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Gave the Scirocco a bit of a service today. Oil & filter, fuel filter, front pads, aux. drive belt as I've seen what a mess they can do if they fail and go inside the cam belt cover. The Starline front anti roll bar links I fitted last year are both shot so bought a couple from local motor factors and lobbed them on , I say that but we had to cut the top nuts off again with a grinder!
Had a remap from M17 performance recently, up to 180bhp/400nm. Goes well but I think it may have had an ecomap on before judging by the flash counts.
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2009 Scirocco 2.0 TDI once in a blue moon I get a beep and ESP fault on centre dash. Only does it on initial start up over night like I say very random. No ESP/ABS lights stay on when it does it. No fault codes (checked on VCDS and OBD eleven. Weird one. Any ideas?
Since the weather has changed car has also been struggling on cranking especially if i've not driven the car for a day, so I've fitted new battery, hopefully that will stop the ESP warning! Yuasa 096 from Halfords £109.99 FFS!
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2009 Scirocco 2.0 TDI once in a blue moon I get a beep and ESP fault on centre dash. Only does it on initial start up over night like I say very random. No ESP/ABS lights stay on when it does it. No fault codes (checked on VCDS and OBD eleven. Weird one. Any ideas?
Since the weather has changed car has also been struggling on cranking especially if i've not driven the car for a day, so I've fitted new battery, hopefully that will stop the ESP warning! Yuasa 096 from Halfords £109.99 FFS!
TBF - Halford do a good warranty on their battery ....just don't loose the receipt
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Yes, 5 years on mine :happy2:
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So,went to Cadwell park on Sunday to watch the racing, it was a wash out and car parks were water logged! When I went to leave got stuck on the wet grass and tried turning ESP off to help traction. No beuno! No matter what I did with the button it wouldn't turn off.
Had a look on eBay for a button and it was a minefield, from a Chineseum special for £8.95 to Lithuanian seller advertising them for over £60! So I went to local VW dealer Crowsons of Spalding and got a genuine VW one for £35. The design has been replaced to one with a skidding car rather than the ESP OFF text, replaced in 2011.