MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: flashp on June 07, 2014, 12:46:14 am

Title: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: flashp on June 07, 2014, 12:46:14 am
Just thought I'd post some useful info regarding my single DIN conversion with OE parts. I came from an RNS510 for info.

I used a VW single DIN fascia (1K0857058A1QB £27.18) which has a storage compartment under. It's a one piece affair (no pop out pocket) and is the standard of finish you'd expect, particularly with the fitted rubber tray insert (1K08581699B9 £5.66).

I also used the Connects2 steering wheel interface (CTS VW002.2 with steering wheel lead CTKENWOODLEAD2 @ £43.98 for both parts) which correctly supports all buttons on the MFSW. It's worth noting that the original Autoleads part I used (PC99-505) did not support the right hand set of buttons correctly. It wouldn't show an 'audio' menu therefore when displaying any menu and using the up/down arrow buttons to navigate not only would it change the display it would change radio station, for instance, at the same time.

I know single DIN isn't everyone's cup of tea  :sick:  but I thought I'd share this since I think it's as good as single DIN conversion could be and maybe this info will be useful for somebody who had considered it but dismissed it due to non OE finish with a poor quality fascia.  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi326.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk438%2Fflashp%2FP1020459_zps35a5f017.jpg&hash=a852cf4dca5f14f41637e4186739bde10117d5c5)
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: Fastmonkey on June 11, 2014, 12:47:20 pm
That's really useful thanks for that, I am viewing a car Friday and will go this route if it is a purchase !

Do you have hands free off that HU, if so where have you routed the mic too ?
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: flashp on June 18, 2014, 09:32:34 pm
That's really useful thanks for that, I am viewing a car Friday and will go this route if it is a purchase !

Do you have hands free off that HU, if so where have you routed the mic too ?
Sorry for the delay in updating!  :ashamed:
Yes, it has handsfree and I put the mic at the top of the A pillar trim. Have to say it works very well too.
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Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: zed4 on June 19, 2014, 08:35:47 am
This is interesting, I didn't know you could control these stereos with the steering wheel controls. Does it display radio stations, song names and phone info in the highline computer display?
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: flashp on June 20, 2014, 07:28:48 pm
No, the highline display only shows the title 'Audio'. My head unit happens to have a more comprehensive and configurable display that that of the oe head unit or dash display so I'm OK with the lack of info there. I use my highline display for Polar FIS 95% of the time so less of an issue for me.
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: bustamo on June 30, 2014, 03:43:01 pm
I find the official VW Single DIN part is really underrated.

I had one when I had a single din HU, and the finish from my mates Autoleads Fascia is one of those small things that half bugged me  :grin:
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: Bigjimknickers on May 22, 2016, 09:11:59 pm
Looks very smart that.
Title: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: An0NyMOUs on June 03, 2016, 07:26:03 pm
Took your advice and got an OE single din unit. All fitted up today;
 
From this
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To this
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCrtr_G%2FMobile_Uploads%2FB25F2AF1-669B-48A4-9830-3ACBF6866F4E_zpsb8blea9q.jpg&hash=057b86d303c08e0753b17513bc860dddddfeca96)

You'll have to excuse the fingerprints and dirt all over it.

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Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: flashp on June 03, 2016, 10:15:34 pm
Looking good! I like the simplicity of the fascia on that.  :happy2:
I've been doing some work to mine that's been waiting for more than a year. I had a bracket made to fit my Brodit mount which takes the round Garmin mount directly. I also dropped a USB lead in through the small opening at the back of the cubby hole.
Second job was to add a relay that is controlled by the remote power on lead from the head unit. This relay has a constant live on it and it feeds power to the antenna amplifier. It allows the radio to work properly without having the ignition on.

I got a local trade paint supplier to mix an aerosol of the same colour of the dash to paint the bracket with. Quite happy with the result.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi326.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk438%2Fflashp%2FSatnav%2520bracket%2FP1030246_zpspoal7xcu.jpg&hash=e85d15cad4b9ac9d3fc3c7c579a9309d63bd5812) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/flashp/media/Satnav%20bracket/P1030246_zpspoal7xcu.jpg.html)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi326.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk438%2Fflashp%2FSatnav%2520bracket%2FP1030250_zpsgvudnty5.jpg&hash=dad0cf39e3f083896b89d484f376ccf31eabab43) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/flashp/media/Satnav%20bracket/P1030250_zpsgvudnty5.jpg.html)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi326.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk438%2Fflashp%2FSatnav%2520bracket%2FP1030249_zpsyjqdlp1r.jpg&hash=6ece0a1a65c9fb36b54c11d9ab064f819750b098) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/flashp/media/Satnav%20bracket/P1030249_zpsyjqdlp1r.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: An0NyMOUs on June 04, 2016, 12:15:07 am
Looks good! I think that satnav would be too low down for me though. I need to get a USB cable sorted for mine, also a DAB aerial. What type of aerial have you used for yours?
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: flashp on June 04, 2016, 10:55:54 am
I was a bit concerned over that but, for me at least, it's OK. Not too different to looking at the RNS510 that used to be there. It may even be easier as the screen is angled towards me.

The antenna is a Hirschmann which I got from here http://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/Hirschmann_AUTA_16_V_II_DAB_car_aerial.html (http://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/Hirschmann_AUTA_16_V_II_DAB_car_aerial.html)
Up until last weekend I had a Calearo equivalent which had been a problem with poor reception from day 1. The Hirschmann is leagues ahead in terms of reception quality. There's a thread here where another member has had issues with a Calearo http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,105339.msg1038873.html#msg1038873 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,105339.msg1038873.html#msg1038873)

Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: An0NyMOUs on June 04, 2016, 05:12:52 pm
That's a shame, I don't have a roof aerial on my car so I'll need a windscreen one or a splitter. Thanks though


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Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: chimp400 on April 05, 2017, 07:45:36 am
Thinking of going this route on mine as I have a spare pioneer single din lying around. Can you remember which harness/aerial leads you used, save me removing and checking mine!
I currently have an rcd500 in there.
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: flashp on April 05, 2017, 07:53:06 am
It's all in this thread  :happy2:
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: chimp400 on April 05, 2017, 08:17:28 am
Ok thanks
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: chimp400 on April 05, 2017, 08:34:42 am
http://www.oemepc.com/vw/part_single/catalog/vw/markt/RDW/modell/GOLF/year/2006/drive_standart/474/hg_ug/057/subcategory/57080/part_id/3706971/lang/

Does this look the same part you used, numbers seem to have changed.
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: pudding on April 05, 2017, 01:43:08 pm
Good thread!  Perfect excuse to fit one of these - https://www.alpine.co.uk/p/Products/digital-media-receiver-4660/ute-93dab
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: chimp400 on April 05, 2017, 09:47:45 pm
Nice, always had Alpine head units years ago and was always impressed with them.
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: pudding on April 06, 2017, 09:42:19 am
Yeah me too, very nice sound.  I've had them since the 90s when you used to pull them out and carry them around like a handbag  :smiley:

The beauty of single DIN is thieving scum will look in the window and think it's a £50 Lidl stereo and move onto the next car  :happy2:

RNS510s are like bears to honey pots where I live coz they still fetch £500 on the bay for late ones.
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: flashp on April 06, 2017, 11:22:18 am
The 510 as a NAV system is also far from as good as it could be. I now run TomTom on my phone and functionality along with the integration with Google maps and MyDrive completely eclipses the OE navigation. I also don't think the 510 as a head-unit is very good  in terms of sound quality but that's a personal opinion.
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: pudding on April 06, 2017, 11:35:44 am
The 510 as a NAV system is also far from as good as it could be. I now run TomTom on my phone and functionality along with the integration with Google maps and MyDrive completely eclipses the OE navigation. I also don't think the 510 as a head-unit is very good  in terms of sound quality but that's a personal opinion.

I agree about the sound quality, it's average at best.  The OEM speakers are capable of producing better sound.  With the Alpine's time delay and parametric EQ, you can get a really good sound!   I used to play around with that stuff years ago, making sure the passenger side speakers had less delay because I was sat further away compared to the driver's side speakers......I was a proper stereo geek back then  :grin:

It does make a difference though!

As for the nav, I've not run into any problems with that yet, other than it being slow to boot up and some recently built roads not being in the maps.

Does the TomTom phone app use GPS or 3G/4G?  Apple maps uses the latter, which is not great when 3G/4G coverage in the UK is diabolical.....on O2 at least.
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: flashp on April 06, 2017, 11:40:14 am
TomTom uses GPS and uses data for traffic information. I find being able to build routes etc on my PC then being able to export them to the navigation device useful.

I spent a good while with those settings also, it improves things markedly, especially compressed audio formats.
Title: Re: Single DIN conversion - useful info.
Post by: Dave_d on May 01, 2017, 03:42:09 pm
They look really nice !!

Sorry to hijack guys, I picked up a 2007 gti on Thursday which has the basic stereo and 6 cd changer, am I right in thinking I'll need the fascia plate, single din stereo and a plug adaptor for my Mfsw 

Dave