MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: neilw on December 05, 2017, 06:59:12 pm
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Snapped a rear coil spring this morning.
(https://preview.ibb.co/h6HR5G/20171205_181910.jpg) (https://ibb.co/etONeb)
Looking at replacements on Eurocarparts it shows two different Sachs springs for the ed30
Does anyone know which is correct?
https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_2.0_2007/p/car-parts/suspension/suspension-and-steering/coil-spring/?627446100&1&2663fc96e35b72e0bfe0fd88cfedf3246a54acd2&000073
627447020
Or
https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_2.0_2007/p/car-parts/suspension/suspension-and-steering/coil-spring/?627447020&1&eba764c52f0b97cb2161ac3fc146ccfc28248708&000073
Product Code: 627447020
The other option is to get a set of Eibachs on there, but I don't know if I've got time to get the fronts done aswell. There only £94 on a site buycarparts.com (Not herd of them before) Anyone know how long it nornally takes to swap the fronts? I got the rear spring out in less time than it took my wife to cook dinner.
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i'd factor in a couple hours and bearing in mind you need a multi spline socket ( cant remember size) and a hub spreader tool to do it. i think from what i was told one sides driveshaft has to come out of the hub too to make clearence to swing the strut out
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I've slept on it and I think I'll go for the Eibach Sportlines. I was going to lower it at some point next year anyway. I can use my wifes Beetle to get to work for awhile so I don't need to rush. I've got a spline bit, it looks like I'll need a spreader tool.
I'll call over to TPS at lunchtime and order new strut and axle bolts.
Is the bolt in the rear control arm that attaches to the hub single use?
Anyone know the torque settings for these bolts?
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At least 95% of the chassis component bolts are single use.
Front:
http://workshop-manuals.com/volkswagen/golf-mk5/running_gear_axles_steering/front_suspension_drive_shafts/assembly_overview_suspension_strut/removing_and_installing_suspension_strut_golf/
Rear:
http://workshop-manuals.com/volkswagen/golf-mk5/running_gear_axles_steering/rear_suspension_drive_shaft/assembly_overview_shock_absorber_coil_spring_(front-wheel_drive)/
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Thanks Pudding.
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I've ordered the Eibach Sportlines, they where £140. Picked up all the bolts I need form TPS (£28)
Just need to get the spreader tool now.
Will it cause any major issue driving around for a bit with a lowered backend and standard setup up front?
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Nope. It might feel different on turn-in with stiffer rear springs (same effect as a bigger anti-roll bar) so watch yourself on wet corners!
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Be aware that top mounts and drop links are prone to seizing / dropping to bits, so you may have to budget for those as well when doing the fronts.
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Be aware that top mounts and drop links are prone to seizing / dropping to bits, so you may have to budget for those as well when doing the fronts.
Thanks. Fingers crossed I'll be ok, but I'll be prepared! Luckly my wifes not using her car much at the moment so I'm not stuck if I have to wait and get more parts.
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I've had sportlines on mine for over 2 years now, they are harsher and I'd recommend sticking em on new shocks
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Be aware that top mounts and drop links are prone to seizing / dropping to bits, so you may have to budget for those as well when doing the fronts.
100% this. Had to hacksaw a droplink off the front ARB after the strut end had completely rusted can couldnt be undone. Droplinks were ALMOST worse than all the rest of it. I also had to drill out a top mount bolt as it had seperated from the top mount. My car was at about 110k and 10yrs old so kind of expected tbh.
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Interesting. Do you live near the sea? Mine all came apart like lego at 110K.
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I'll make sure I use heat and spray. I've got a nice impact wrench which should all help.
I intend to update the shocks at a later date, probably VWR's or whatever they are called now
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Yeah the RacingLine ones. They're good :happy2:
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Interesting. Do you live near the sea? Mine all came apart like lego at 110K.
I dont but I'm the third owner so it may have spent some time in the sand and salt. Nothing was unreasonably corroded but I just couldnt get the leverage as the ARB would flex and the car was too close to the ground. That being said I am seeing rust on several of the undercar parts (rear arms are looking dubious) and am replacing them slowly as budget allows and nothing awful given its 10yrs old. Nothing has failed on me yet apart from spring snapping which was pothole related.
The one thing that has worried me is the DSG/mechatronic cover (a flat black painted box on front of gearbox had a load of rust on it when I changed the IC the other day. Sanded it down and applied anti corrosive and painted it over but was worrying. That box was massively worse than any other component on the car, no idea why it was so much more affected.
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Yeah I've seen similar rusting on mine too. Huge chunks of paint flaking off the driveshafts and ARBs and looking pretty rusty as a result, but otherwise it all looks solid still. Those parts are so substantial, they're not going to snap any time soon, but it does look ugly! I guess the long offside shaft and the arb flex a lot, so cracking paint is inevitable. Same with the coil springs.
Yeah same with mine. The rear is getting desperate. Many of the bushes are shot and knocking, so that's a job for the summer.
Is that DSG cover not replaceable? I'd be tempted to do that personally, or remove it and get it powder coated maybe?
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I think the cover is replaceable but I think there's a decent amount of oil behind it so might need to do it once I get my DSG oil replaced. I managed to find an old thread where someone described the exact same issue but got a very small hole in it that leaked DSG oil so I'm watching it closely atm. Also has the mechatronic unit in it as well so dont want to do too much poking around. Have an email awaited from my local vw dealer as apparently they arent too pricey to replace so will see what they say.
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Rear spring are in :happy2: A nice easy job.
Not going to do the fronts today, but I've jacked it up and made sure none of the bolts where sizied. The drops links where fine. One of the pinch bolts was abit tight and need some breaker bar action but came out easy enough.
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Plenty of WD40 on the fronts before attempting to whip them out as they're a beech to remove when seized up!!!
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Plenty of WD40 on the fronts before attempting to whip them out as they're a beech to remove when seized up!!!
Yup its all loose up there now. WD40 and Impact werech on all the bolts. Lossened them and done them all back up for now so it should be easy when I come to finish the job next weekend hopefully.
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It's getting them out he hub I was talking about :happy2:
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It's getting them out he hub I was talking about :happy2:
Ah cool, thank you. I'll feed them more wd40 :happy2:
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:happy2: you'll need it
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Front springs went on today. Took about 4 hours in total. The main issue I had was with one of the bolts in the top mount, being rusted up, it ended up spinning the captive nut, which is a pain to get a socket on.
Shocks came out of their seats fine. It was getting them back in a found harder.
Only driven 3 miles on them so far, but they felt nice.
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Sadly not a a five minute job which is why I've still not done mine :signLOL:
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Yup. Its probably easy to take the calipers off and take the whole hub out, and attach the shock off the car.
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If you have a vice then yes will be much easier as when I did my cv boot a few months back, it was a nightmare as my nerve issue didn't help and the weight just felt triple :sick: