MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Members Rides => Topic started by: a89 on April 19, 2012, 12:18:29 pm
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Bought a car to strip and take on track for a little fun, plans were basic, uprated suspension, ARBs, stripped interior and subtle engine upgrades. Car was a 2.8 v6 4motion and went quite well at first, from this:
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to this:
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With the help of these:
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It went well through the corners but was just a little boring. Engine wasn't powerful enough so with the help of http://rtek-motorsport.com/ (http://rtek-motorsport.com/) we did what everyone said couldn't be done and put one of these:
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into here:
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Using the single OEM ECU which ended up in it running first time, running over 300bhp with a very linear power band and going like this: https://contour.com/stories/trackday-donington-park-20112011--3 (https://contour.com/stories/trackday-donington-park-20112011--3)
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Nice mate, :happy2:
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Great car Al, it must be mega to drive. :smiley:
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That is mega! Proper into that, your not too far from me either are you? I'd love to go out in this!
Is it a K04/S3 engine or a K03?
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crazy! must be awesome to drive
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does the awd system work? i am just making a awd 1.8t version, far more simple lol.
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That is mega! Proper into that, your not too far from me either are you? I'd love to go out in this!
Is it a K04/S3 engine or a K03?
I believe it was an engine out of an S3.
Love this car, followed it on Club GTI. And seen it nearly roll at Bedford!! :wink:
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Nice mate, :happy2:
Cheers pal!
Great car Al, it must be mega to drive. :smiley:
Indeed it is Rich! Yours is looking nice and clean!
That is mega! Proper into that, your not too far from me either are you? I'd love to go out in this!
Is it a K04/S3 engine or a K03?
Thanks a lot mate. As Deako said it is indeed a ko4 s3 engine.
crazy! must be awesome to drive
It is a good laugh! Great to see peoples surprise on their faces too!
does the awd system work? i am just making a awd 1.8t version, far more simple lol.
Everything that was originally on the car still works including the AWD Haldex system. I've now taken the A/C out for a little more weight saving.
That is mega! Proper into that, your not too far from me either are you? I'd love to go out in this!
Is it a K04/S3 engine or a K03?
I believe it was an engine out of an S3.
Love this car, followed it on Club GTI. And seen it nearly roll at Bedford!! :wink:
Cheers Deako! Yeah, brother did nearly roll it leading to this:
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OUCH! :surprised:
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Cheers Deako! Yeah, brother did nearly roll it leading to this:
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Go on - Where's the video?
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so u use the s3 gearbox and the v6 4m rear diff? if so that is rather intresting!
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OUCH! :surprised:
Luckily it was only wheel damage! Could have been so much worse! Plus I've now got the cage going in at R-Tek Motorsport, they've got updates on their facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/R-Tek-Motorsport/110065635723264 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/R-Tek-Motorsport/110065635723264)
Go on - Where's the video?
Unfortunately no video at the time, do have other videos here though: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrAbe7?feature=watch (http://www.youtube.com/user/MrAbe7?feature=watch)
so u use the s3 gearbox and the v6 4m rear diff? if so that is rather intresting!
Yeah, using the o2m mk1 S3/TT quattro box with standard rear diff with no problems.
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oh that is good to know, i would of thought the box would of not matched up. :drinking:
What did you do about the ECU? and clocks?
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Yeah, only difference in gearbox (apart from slight variation in ratios) is the belhousing to attach box to block with slightly different mounting points.
ECU is the s3 one because only VW know how to run the TFSI properly and clocks are mk4 ones. Unfortunately I don't know the ins and outs of the electrics because the electric and can-bus systems are to complex for me. Mechanical side I'm fine, electrics not really, which is why I took it to R-Tek. Still works out more reliable and cheaper than trying to get the same power out of a 1.8T which is always nice and getting the same linear torque you get from the TFSI engine. :happy2:
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that is very interesting! nice work :drinking: how did you get around the gearbox mounting points?
U got me thinking now lol, i just rebuild an AGU! with rods valves, AUM TB, ECU, LOOM and VVT unit! Your idea would of been so much easier lol!
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Goes straight in!
I had a look at charging the 2.8, engine conversion to a 3.2, 1.8T conversion and saw the 2.0TFSI as the best one in the end. Obviously it's not cheap, but when you look at the other options there isn't much in it, and I know the TFSI isn't as economic as made out to be but they're still more economic than the other engines, cheaper to pick up and more reliable at this power with a better rolling road graph.
Ignore the torque reading as Awesome were having problems with them and they were all high on the day but the car is fantastic to drive:
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rolling road web (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/6382829421/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr
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Car is back and cage is in :love:
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roll cage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/7282177910/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr
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roll cage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/7282178308/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr
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roll cage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/7282178788/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr
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roll cage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/7282178572/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr
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roll cage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/7282177624/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr
and one more
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roll cage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/7282178996/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr
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So before inters we replaced the heat shielding on the bulkhead with gold! Then JJ @ R-Tek made a lovely heat shield which will be wrapped in gold, and the intake was wrapped in gold. So engine bay looks like this:
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Will eventually make an airbox enclosure, and probably wrap that in gold, because its nice. Nothing to do with heat reflection.
As said, cage was painted, lovely bright orange, with the front uprights matt black to stop sun reflecting in eyes, and I chopped the dash in half to put it back in because I don't have the patience of putting the full one back in.
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Before all that I replaced the clutch with helix uprated paddle clutch as my old one was slipping at low down on full boost (ie 4th gear flat out from 2k would slip a little at 3.5k then grip again at 4k). I was told by Euro Car Parts that the helix clutch and pressure plate would fit the fidanza flywheel, they were wrong, so I had to get the helix flywheel too. Its heavier than the fidanza one, about 6kg instead if 3kg but it all fits together and the clutch now grips, very well as I found when I dumped the clutch at inters.
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Helix left, Fidanza right.
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Inters 2012:
I only did a couple of runs with a few bits and bobs in the car, bag, jackets, umbrella etc, before they shut the strip due to an incident. First one I set off quite cautiously, 2.5k rpm dumped clutch bogged down a little, 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, quarter mile in 13.8 sec.
2nd run I took JJ out in it, dumped clutch from 4k rpm, plenty of grip, 0-60 in 5.1 quarter mile in 13.3 sec, so without a passenger, or stuff in boot, dumping it from approx 4.5k rpm I reckon 4.8/4.9 0-60 and 13.1/13.2 1/4 mile.
If anyone has videos or photos please post them up, I didn't take any.
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Few photos I've found,
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IMG_2733 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55416266@N02/7435173296/) by mattphotos23 (http://www.flickr.com/people/55416266@N02/), on Flickr
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Went to Anglesey back in July:
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UKMKIVS019 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/huwfletcher/7625297418/) by huwflet (http://www.flickr.com/people/huwfletcher/), on Flickr
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UKMKIVS067 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/huwfletcher/7627963750/) by huwflet (http://www.flickr.com/people/huwfletcher/), on Flickr
And now underway with widening the car;
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WP_000088 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/7679594022/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr
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front wing (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49609670@N08/7833277138/) by Photos By Alessio (http://www.flickr.com/people/49609670@N08/), on Flickr