MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Performance Modifications => Modifications & Technical Area => R-Tech Zone => Topic started by: Trav Turbo on January 19, 2017, 02:42:14 pm

Title: R-tech Remap.
Post by: Trav Turbo on January 19, 2017, 02:42:14 pm
Hello guy's. I'm booked in for my remap next month & heard about the 5 selectable maps some people has  mentioned. I'm unsure if they will put it on mine or not. Just interested on people's views on that feature & if they have them or not?

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Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: RetroRaz on January 19, 2017, 03:37:23 pm
Nick (white91) has it done, it only can be done on Manual GTI's. He needed it as his clutch was slipping so he put his remap on 3rd setting and it lowered the torque down and had no clutch slip.

Just ask Niki to do it before it goes in
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: slix on January 19, 2017, 04:30:42 pm
It's not just manuals.

I have it on my dsg and when I asked him he said it's part of all the maps.

You hold the brake and stomp on accelerator to change from 1 to 5. 1k rpm is map 1, 2k rpm is map 2 etc.
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: Trav Turbo on January 19, 2017, 05:17:37 pm
It's not just manuals.

I have it on my dsg and when I asked him he said it's part of all the maps.

You hold the brake and stomp on accelerator to change from 1 to 5. 1k rpm is map 1, 2k rpm is map 2 etc.
Ok cool. I'll be asking for that feature then

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Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: Saintsteve on January 19, 2017, 06:56:04 pm
Yes there are always 5 different maps depending on engine Operating temps, intake air temps etc so the switchable ones are just the ability to turn down the power manually rather then letting the engine Operating perimeters decide, :happy2:
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: Saintsteve on January 19, 2017, 06:57:59 pm
I would edge caution if you select setting 5 for a normal engine temp setting with a cold engine.
Not advisable  :smiley: :slap:
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: rich83 on January 19, 2017, 07:03:47 pm
I thought the R-tech maps limited power until the engine was warm anyway?
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: AJP on January 19, 2017, 07:04:09 pm
Yes there are always 5 different maps depending on engine Operating temps, intake air temps etc so the switchable ones are just the ability to turn down the power manually rather then letting the engine Operating perimeters decide, :happy2:
That's news to me. So you're saying during a normal drive the ECU will automatically switch between the 5 maps Niki's loaded? I thought things like knock detection and timing retard would be active within each selected map, rather than the map itself switching. What about the k04 2+ maps that don't get the switchable option?
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: slix on January 19, 2017, 10:18:33 pm
I would edge caution if you select setting 5 for a normal engine temp setting with a cold engine.
Not advisable  :smiley: :slap:
I have for the past year. I leave it on 5 all the time.

As with any turbo car, not giving it full beans untill it's up to temp. Just drive normal in map 5 till warm.
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: white91 on January 19, 2017, 10:46:17 pm
I have 5 switchable maps, unfortunately map 5 does make my poor clutch slip in 6th! Map 4 is nearly as mad but easier on my clutch. I'm actually pootling around in map 1 right now since the snow and general poor road conditions. Really useful feature for me


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Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: bonelorry on January 19, 2017, 11:03:51 pm
You now have to pay extra for the Switchable map option, I had it on my last Edition 30 as it was running 330LB/FT of Torque on the OEM Clutch so just in case it slipped I could select Map 4 which was circa 300LB/FT.

Thing is as already mentioned though I just ran the car on the Top Setting number 5 all the time, I would actually prefer not to have it switchable as it is a feature I would never use and always doubted that the correct map was set when I was driving the car.

On the 6R I have not got it switchable.
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: pudding on January 20, 2017, 09:16:34 am
Yes there are always 5 different maps depending on engine Operating temps, intake air temps etc so the switchable ones are just the ability to turn down the power manually rather then letting the engine Operating perimeters decide, :happy2:
That's news to me. So you're saying during a normal drive the ECU will automatically switch between the 5 maps Niki's loaded? I thought things like knock detection and timing retard would be active within each selected map, rather than the map itself switching. What about the k04 2+ maps that don't get the switchable option?

I would have thought it's just the boost levels and N75 ramp rates that differ between the maps.  Intake temps, water temps etc are all standard parameters the engine needs to function regardless of boost level.
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: pudding on January 20, 2017, 09:19:37 am
You now have to pay extra for the Switchable map option, I had it on my last Edition 30 as it was running 330LB/FT of Torque on the OEM Clutch so just in case it slipped I could select Map 4 which was circa 300LB/FT.

Thing is as already mentioned though I just ran the car on the Top Setting number 5 all the time, I would actually prefer not to have it switchable as it is a feature I would never use and always doubted that the correct map was set when I was driving the car.

On the 6R I have not got it switchable.

Likewise.  I just go for 'a map' and be done with it.   I can't see any scenario in my daily driving where I'd want to turn the boost down, or run a standard map.
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: Dan_FR on January 20, 2017, 09:24:50 am
The only thing different in the 5 switchable maps is the boost(load) request and N75 mapping, this alone is enough to cap the mid range torque. Car won't change maps automatically.

Never seen the need to have switchable mapping even though I have Revo and the SPS device so have a lot more adjustability.  Just dont be so heavy with the right foot at low RPM where the clutch struggles.

I do like the ability to put it back to standard power and even the valet mode if I ever have to entrust the car to a garage or anyone other than myself & the other half
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: white91 on January 20, 2017, 11:35:54 am
Each to their own,  it I often find map5 a bit aggressive for daily driving, I see this option similar to a 'sport' button


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Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: Dan_FR on January 20, 2017, 11:50:44 am
A button that requires the engine to be off, ignition on, pedals to be pressed in sequence, then the ignition to be switched off again before restarting the car...... :signLOL:
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: white91 on January 20, 2017, 02:19:57 pm
A button that requires the engine to be off, ignition on, pedals to be pressed in sequence, then the ignition to be switched off again before restarting the car...... :signLOL:
Oh yeah because cars are never turned off are they! BTW you do not have to turn the ignition off again once you've selected your map.


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Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: bonelorry on January 20, 2017, 02:30:34 pm
Each to their own,  it I often find map5 a bit aggressive for daily driving, I see this option similar to a 'sport' button


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That is what the Linear Pedal Map option is for  :happy2:
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: Dan_FR on January 20, 2017, 02:31:51 pm
A button that requires the engine to be off, ignition on, pedals to be pressed in sequence, then the ignition to be switched off again before restarting the car...... :signLOL:
Oh yeah because cars are never turned off are they! BTW you do not have to turn the ignition off again once you've selected your map.


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Nope, I can change it with the engine running and even whilst driving (Lot easier on a Mk2 Leon than it would be on a Mk5 Golf)  :signLOL:
Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: white91 on January 20, 2017, 02:33:27 pm
Each to their own,  it I often find map5 a bit aggressive for daily driving, I see this option similar to a 'sport' button


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That is what the Linear Pedal Map option is for  :happy2:

Disappointingly I was never asked by RTech about what sort of map I wanted, they simply took my keys and got on with it


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Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: Rawhide on January 21, 2017, 06:11:31 pm
I am planning this remap as an alternative to the revo map with switch.  When I asked about it they said it was just boost level that are changing.

The reason I want that feature is my wife is a horrible driver and as we have kids too much power is really a bad idea.  I can then lower the boost if she's using my car.

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Title: Re: R-tech Remap.
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 21, 2017, 07:04:37 pm
I am planning this remap as an alternative to the revo map with switch.  When I asked about it they said it was just boost level that are changing.

The reason I want that feature is my wife is a horrible driver and as we have kids too much power is really a bad idea.  I can then lower the boost if she's using my car.

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Good plan. Map 1 is very 'flat' so perfect for her  :happy2: