MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: robern2 on February 10, 2010, 01:10:18 pm

Title: Helix Clutch
Post by: robern2 on February 10, 2010, 01:10:18 pm
Unfortunately the Sachs Clutch kit for my stage2+ ed30 had a piece missing so I've been offered a Helix clutch kit instead by the ever helpful guys at Rtech power.
Is anyone on here running one ?
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: gillm on February 10, 2010, 05:26:24 pm
which kit is it ? i have a single mass flywheel kit going on mine shortly . it looks great but can say whats its like on the car as its still in the cardboard box lol
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: robern2 on February 10, 2010, 07:03:42 pm
I haven't been told the exact kit name although I'm led to believe it can handle slightly more power and torque that the Sachs kit.
Interestingly I've had some feedback from S3 users who say it's very user friendly so I'll report back on friday.
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: gillm on February 10, 2010, 07:38:11 pm
keep us posted
Title: Helix Clutch - ed30
Post by: robern2 on February 13, 2010, 03:23:12 pm
After 2 and a half months of nursing my slipping clutch it was finally replaced yesterday  in favour of a Helix item by the helpful chaps at Rtech power.
The DMF was in good working order so did not need replacing.

Whilst the clutch is slightly stiffer than standard, it is by no difficult to use, testament to this being the hour of clutch/de-clutching on the M42 thanks to the kind people slowing down to gawp at a car accident. If anything it appears to have softened in the 150 miles I’ve covered since.

There are no strange squeaks or rattles in operation, gear changes are now very precise with much quicker pick up than before.
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: danishmkvgti on February 13, 2010, 04:49:39 pm
how many nm are the helix rated to??
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: Greeners on February 13, 2010, 05:15:51 pm
Do you know whether your DMF was SACHS or LUK?
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: robern2 on February 13, 2010, 05:28:18 pm
Unfortunately I dont know the make of DMF I have.
I'm not sure if this is entirely accurate but...
Helix = 580Nm
Sachs = 530Nm
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: Ste on February 13, 2010, 08:15:25 pm
Hi Robern,

Didnt realise you were on here, Makes sense really though i suppose! i had my MkIV in at R-Tech for a rolling road run yesterday! I'd have spoken more if i'd have known!
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: robern2 on February 13, 2010, 09:16:15 pm
Hi Ste,
I spotted the 3 black mk4s and suspected some of you may be from the uk-mkivs.net forum, I heard patch's name mentioned as I left yesterday, sorry we didn't get to chat to any of you but I had to make tracks back to bristol.
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: gillm on March 13, 2010, 05:22:57 pm
had this fitted today along with a diff . man what a difference the clutch is . zero slip and quicker spool up ! yes being a soild flywheel does make the box rattle a bit but in all fairness when the radio is on or in gear you cant hear it , and yes the clutch is slightly stiffer but nothing that the everyday driver can't live with .

its very much like a 02a lightened flywheel with a vr clutch .


massive improvement and the diff seems to be working nicly mid bend  :smiley: .

massive thanks to matt and his machanic (sorry i didnt catch your name ) . also good to have a chin wag about dubs  :happy2:  oh and a very good cup of coffee too lol
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 13, 2010, 05:41:55 pm
good you like it, i'm in the middle of doing the same, and i'm sticking with the DMF. That rattle is vibrations from the 4 pot engine and with a smf you get them transferred to your transmission, this is the reason for the "possibly" troublesome gearchange at high revs and shorter life of gearbox. I don't dare take that chance  :sad1:
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: Poverty on March 13, 2010, 05:55:33 pm
how much?
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: gillm on March 13, 2010, 06:05:49 pm
£900 for the clutch
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: Poverty on March 13, 2010, 06:32:51 pm
£900 for the clutch

That price has to be fitted right?
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: gillm on March 13, 2010, 06:35:48 pm
nope
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: Poverty on March 13, 2010, 06:41:55 pm
nope

Wont be getting one of those then.

I reckon I can get a uprated clutch and quaiffe diff fitted for 1600 all in.
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: robern2 on March 14, 2010, 07:49:28 am
helix clutch, release bearing and fitting was £780 all in.
Took about 3 hours.
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: Poverty on March 14, 2010, 11:06:55 am
helix clutch, release bearing and fitting was £780 all in.
Took about 3 hours.

Thats better, that will deffo mean I can get clutch and diff done for 1600 all in.
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: RobH on March 14, 2010, 11:33:47 am
VWRacing quoted me £1500 all in for clutch and diff.
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: Poverty on March 14, 2010, 11:39:13 am
VWRacing quoted me £1500 all in for clutch and diff.

thats even better, I can get a diff all in for 800, so just need to supply a clutch and get them to fit.

What sort of clutch where they offering?
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: gillm on March 14, 2010, 12:03:03 pm
i supplied my own clutch and had vwr fit the diff and clutch at £1050 , which i thought was a good deal !

£900 is demon tweeks price (cant find it anywhere else ) and i didnt pay that for mine !
Title: Re: Helix Clutch
Post by: robern2 on March 15, 2010, 05:22:40 pm
speak to rtech for a price on the helix.