MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 15, 2022, 10:26:04 pm
Hi all,
New to the forum!
Recently picked up a mk5 GTI and having one before I know how important it is to change the cam follower unlike the previous owner. The car drove perfect and had no rattling sounds etc.

The car recently had an oil and oil filter change before I bought it.

I replaced the cam follower, should I just drive it and see how long the follower lasts?
Thanks
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Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: mjmallia on May 16, 2022, 07:20:05 am
You could just change the follower and drive to see how you get on, but the damage has been done and the engine will never run at 100%

To do it properly, would require a new cam unfortunately.........while it is out, you might as well do the small cam adjuster chain and tensioner if not done recently.
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 16, 2022, 07:23:28 am
Thanks for the reply.

The cam chain, tensioner and pulley have all been done recently
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: pudding on May 16, 2022, 09:26:33 am
Yep, new cam time.

A new follower will buy you a bit of time, but not a lot.  A cam lobe that worn will chew up the new follower pretty quickly, and be mindful of all that metal dust potentially clogging up oil galleries.  If that gets into the VVT phaser, that'll be another £500+ to add to the cam job.

TBH, you can buy an entire head with cams, VVT phaser, chain and tensioner for about a grand.

But naturally you can get a used cam off ebay and give that a whirl if cost is a factor. Time for some man maths and beer thinking!
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 16, 2022, 01:37:16 pm
Thanks.

Can't seem to find any online. I'm in Ireland too 🙈
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: JoshB on May 16, 2022, 10:06:48 pm
I’d just do the follower (or at least check it) every year, or every oil change if you do them sooner.
It’s scored but doesn’t look destroyed to me, it drives the fuel pump so just don’t expect hard pull toward the red line.

It all depends on what you want from your car.
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 16, 2022, 10:12:13 pm
Thanks Josh.

It's my weekend car so I really could stay on top of it. It's weird you say that though because I drove the car hard once or twice on my way home from buying it and the thing definitely doesn't lose power at any stage. I couldn't believe it when I seen the follower.

I'm curious to know has anybody else been in the same situation and just kept an eye on the follower?  I think an engine flush and another oil change will be the first thing to do.
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: pudding on May 17, 2022, 09:43:06 am
What year is your car?  On early AXX engines they did have a 'soft cam' problem, which was sorted in later cars.  If yours has the harder cam in it, you might get away with just more frequent follower changes.
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 17, 2022, 09:44:23 am
It's 2008
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: pudding on May 17, 2022, 10:11:20 am
That will have the revised cam in it then.
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 17, 2022, 10:33:37 am
Interesting 🤔

Let's see how long my cam follower lasts. I'll keep this thread updated 😁

Thanks  :happy2:
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: ald1717 on May 17, 2022, 10:35:07 am
just check it after a week with new follower and see how it looks, i would just change follower more often
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: rich83 on May 17, 2022, 01:11:23 pm
That will have the revised cam in it then.

Yep. The revision B (I think it's called) is a two piece design. The original is a one piece design (as viewed from the end)
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 21, 2022, 03:30:53 pm
Hi all,

Another what to do question. I recently broke the front mount on my vaccum pump when I over tightened it. I put in a new O' Ring and put it back on. It's not leaking and my brakes aren't acting different. Is it safe to continue or should I stop and get a new one?

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Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 21, 2022, 06:19:25 pm
As already pointed out by others;
Yours is the revised version intake cam with a two-piece tri-lobe.
But the peaks of the tri-lobe look worn and keeping a good follower installed will buy you time.
Eventually it will suffer to produce proper fuel rail pressure. You will have a fault code pointing to fuel pressure out of range. Then is when you must replace the intake cam...or sooner if you can. You can check the follower as often as you feel you should. But at this point, the peak wear on the lobe will likely give out before another follower is needed. If were me, I would plan on just swapping the intake cam within the next year...and add a new follower along with the new cam.

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Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 21, 2022, 07:05:07 pm
Thanks for that  :smiley:
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 21, 2022, 10:05:59 pm
Regarding the broken bit...was it a bolt or is this tab now missing?

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Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Ado2022 on May 21, 2022, 10:18:48 pm
That tab
Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 22, 2022, 12:53:32 am
I would say "mostly safe to keep running it until you can get to replacing it.
The obvious is to be attentive to brake feel and any changes.
LOL, and if you need the torque values for any future wrench turning...you can have this;
https://blogvager.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/10-audi_a3_qsb_web.pdf

BPY (in the torque book ↑ ) is North American's version of the BWA. I do not see torque specs for the vacuum pump-to-chain cover. The torque book shows a general guide if not listed. Stating - 6mm bolts have a 10Nm spec. But I have seen it posted the vacuum pump bolt torque is 11Nm; https://blog.fcpeuro.com/how-to-replace-the-brake-vacuum-pump-volkswagen-mk5-gti-audi-a3-a4-vw-jetta

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