MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 11:58:28 am

Title: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 11:58:28 am
As per the title, when I change from 2nd to 3rd gear in manual mode using the paddles, there is quite a jerk which is quite noticeable.
Does anyone else experience this or is there a problem with my gearbox?
It's going in for a oil/filter change on the gearbox next week, so don't know whether this will make it any better or not?
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: JPC on September 29, 2009, 12:02:50 pm
it might be that the mechatronic control box thingy is on the way out?

its quite a common thing for the dealers to swap under warranty.

its an expensive part but as long as its warranted, you should be ok.

Quite a few of our member have had theirs changed recently, to which it transformed the DSG Box, all for free
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 12:10:34 pm
Car is an 06 plate so won't be under warranty unfortunately. Is it an expensive part to replace?
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: SteveP on September 29, 2009, 12:19:46 pm
Yep the part is around £1000 alone (according to my dealership when mine was replaced under warranty a month ago).  :scared:
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 12:20:52 pm
EEEEEK! Hope that job doesn't need doing then!!!
Just spoken to VW in Canterbury. They're going to have a look at it when it goes in for the oil/filter change next Wedneday
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: JPC on September 29, 2009, 12:24:22 pm
eeak
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: prepree on September 29, 2009, 12:32:10 pm
Iv got mine booked in next tuesday for this exact issue, if im in D its not as noticeable, however if i use paddles or gear stick going up through the gears its pretty shocking, lungey and jerky.

Iv also noticed hessitation when at junctions which doesnt fill me with confidence

Hopefully they will sort it all out there and then as its out of warranty in December  :surprised:
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Hedge on September 29, 2009, 01:01:48 pm
Mechatronics tends to be a factory order part so I doubt it will get fixed there and then.

They may try 'basic settings' on it first as part of guided fault-finding but on mine that made it worse.  :sad1:
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: tony_danza on September 29, 2009, 01:10:56 pm
Slightly different, but mine was lurching when starting off - had the DSG ECU reset and its been fine since, fingers crossed. They'll most likely do this as part of the service.
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 01:46:12 pm
Slightly different, but mine was lurching when starting off - had the DSG ECU reset and its been fine since, fingers crossed. They'll most likely do this as part of the service.

Mine was servied on 24th August, but as I didn't own the car then I don't know what was done other than the service and brake fluid change.
Might ask them if resetting the ECU first is a viable option to replacing the mechatronics box!
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: tony_danza on September 29, 2009, 01:47:43 pm
DSG won't have been touched, I'm fairly sure of that - good start off point. Make sure it has latest software version and reboot it.
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 01:56:58 pm
DSG won't have been touched, I'm fairly sure of that - good start off point. Make sure it has latest software version and reboot it.

Will check that when I take it in next wednesday. I was thinking to myself to ask them if there were any software updates for the car.
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: tony_danza on September 29, 2009, 01:59:02 pm
Hopefully it'll just be a glitch, ironed out by the upgrade/reboot... but if worst comes to the worst, then I believe if you press VW enough, they'll cough some of the cost of the new unit out of warranty.
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 02:03:07 pm
Hopefully it'll just be a glitch, ironed out by the upgrade/reboot... but if worst comes to the worst, then I believe if you press VW enough, they'll cough some of the cost of the new unit out of warranty.
I'll definitely try for that but the oil/filter change that it's going in for should've been done at 40k not he 51k that he car has currentlydone! :surprised:
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: tony_danza on September 29, 2009, 02:10:25 pm
Yikes!

Mine gets done every 20k - yours could possbily just be a bit down on fluid.
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 02:16:02 pm
Yikes!

Mine gets done every 20k - yours could possbily just be a bit down on fluid.

Blimey, that must work out expensive for you! How much do your garage charge you for the job?
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: tony_danza on September 29, 2009, 02:25:05 pm
I track the car, so it gets over-serviced, so to speak. Think it was around the £200 mark.
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 02:31:26 pm
I track the car, so it gets over-serviced, so to speak. Think it was around the £200 mark.

Blimey, that sounds expensive. Eurocanterbury have quoted me £130 inc VAT for the oil/filter change for the DSG box!
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: tony_danza on September 29, 2009, 02:40:40 pm
Interesting.... the parts alone are near £100 and it's quite a lengthy process.
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 03:07:04 pm
Interesting.... the parts alone are near £100 and it's quite a lengthy process.

Looks like I've got myself a bargain then!
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: tony_danza on September 29, 2009, 03:08:28 pm
Lets hope so.......
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 03:11:48 pm
Lets hope so.......

I did check with the guy on the phone twice that it was £310 inc VAT and he said "Yes"!

Maybe they'll do the normal "did you know your car needs X doing to it which will cost you only £1000.? Would you like us to do it whilst it's in bits Sir?"
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: tony_danza on September 29, 2009, 03:19:39 pm
Have they done one before? Do they think it's just a 'drop the oil and re-fill it' job, hence the price??

I'll dig my bill out to double check.
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: Webby on September 29, 2009, 03:30:00 pm
I've only had the car 2 weeks. The previous owner hadnt done the oil/filter change when it was due at 40k, hence the reason why I'm doing it now at 51k!
I'm hoping it's just running rough because it's low on oil!
Title: Re: DSG jerky 2nd to 3rd using manual mode
Post by: prepree on October 06, 2009, 09:10:07 pm
I had my car at the dealers to today to investigate the jerky changes in manual mode, there engineer took it for a drive and said he didnt notice anything serious.
He called me after to tell this and thought it would be best to carry out DSG reset and monitor over next week. After a quick drive home it does feel a lot better, hopefully not a placebo effect, i guess time will tell!

Roll on next month for cam belt change and service!! :surprised: