MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: tinto on June 25, 2009, 05:45:41 pm
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It has been discussed in a couple of threads that the K04 keeps on giving beyond the DSG's factory upshift point.
Seems to be something especially obvious to those with a software tune.
...and something the manual owners enjoy a little bit ;)
Has anyone tried the DSG reflash from HPA or GIAC in their stage 1 tuned k04 car?
The features/price of the GIAC reflash look pretty good to me.
D mode remains normal.
S mode becomes mental.
M mode lets you bounce off a 71xx rpm limiter - i.e. actually be in 'manual'.
...and a few different 'launch control' modes.
Would be interested in hearing about experiences and whether you feel this 'uncorked' your k04.
If this should go in the GIAC section, can a mod please move it - but it is more of a general question about DSG tunes.
APR are supposedly working on one too (according to a thread on www.golfmkv.com)
Cheers,
Martin
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Hurdy has the GIAC dsg reflash done on his car.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4697.0
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jonny has revo map on his
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^^^ Unofficially :wink: :laugh: :laugh:
But I wish they would hurry up and get it on the market :grin: :grin:
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^^^ Unofficially :wink: :laugh: :laugh:
But I wish they would hurry up and get it on the market :grin: :grin:
a few people have it Unofficially :laugh:
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^^^ Indeed :wink:
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What happens if you have the dsg remapped with a stage 1 engine remap but then revert the engine map to standard for a service, will the dsg box with the flasj still work with the standard map :rolleye:
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What happens if you have the dsg remapped with a stage 1 engine remap but then revert the engine map to standard for a service, will the dsg box with the flasj still work with the standard map :rolleye:
....*cough* They are independent of each other but the DSG remap smartly takes its cue from however the ECU is behaving *cough*
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^^^ Also without the engine remap one thing you wouldn't be benefiting from is the raised rev limit as the engine soft rev limit would cut the power before reaching the raised limit of the DSG gearbox I would think but could be total wrong :rolleye:
PS - Get well soon Robin :grin: :grin:
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I know i wouldnt get the benefit without the map on but just want to make sure that the dsg flash isnt matched to the Bluefin therefore causing issues if the i try to run it with the standard map. Cheers :happy2:
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^^^ I spoke with SC about these and they have no immediate plans to do a DSG remap so this is a big part of why I changed to Revo as I want an engine and DSG remap from the same tuner :happy2:
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Did you try a revo stage 1 remap, if so how did it feel compared to the Bluefin?
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I was on SC Stage 2 and when to Revo Stage 2 and Now Revo Stage 2+ :evilgrin:
Review of Stage 2 can be found here - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4939.0
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Thanks for the replies guys. I should have searched first! :ashamed:
I shot an email over to the guys at Superchips who said they can raise the
ECU rev limit on their reflash (and have done for other ED30 customers)
to work with the GIAC DSG reflash, so i'm pretty happy about that.
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The GIAC DSG flash is a lovely piece of mapping. It truly unleashes the upper power limits of the DSG. :happy2:
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Hurdy, is the S Mode much more mental?
It is not like it is sedate now, so I'm curious to know how much more aggressive it is.
Right now S mode feels like an 'option' for daily driving.
But I'm wondering if it becomes much more of a measured decision to push it down there...?
i.e. chug a red bull, slap your face a few times, scream, deep breath... select S-Mode.
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Hurdy, is the S Mode much more mental?
It is not like it is sedate now, so I'm curious to know how much more aggressive it is.
Right now S mode feels like an 'option' for daily driving.
But I'm wondering if it becomes much more of a measured decision to push it down there...?
i.e. chug a red bull, slap your face a few times, scream, deep breath... select S-Mode.
....Isn't every driving decision a measured decision?
Very much down the road/traffic conditions within the parameters of safety and consideration for other road users.
Best you simply try using S-mode and you'll soon realise how it best fits in your style of driving.
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S-mode actually feels smoother than it was with the OEM mapping. You simply get faster changes that are slightly less noticeable and then some extra revs at the top end if you need them. If you plant your foot down on the go fast pedal it will always be a case of hold on tight and sharpen those reflexes as you will quickly approach legal speed limits. :evilgrin:
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....Isn't every driving decision a measured decision?
Not really, no. Most of my daily commute I'm on auto pilot if I'm totally honest.
I'm probably making measured decisions subconsciously on the basis you mentioned but I'm more or less a zombie until I get that first espresso. :laugh:
But I should have put my question into context.
I do the occasional sprint/superkhana event as well as track days and will probably hit the drag strip when spring rolls around down under - I want to know if the revised S mode is as manic as GIAC say it is.
I've used S mode plenty of times, it is just right for a drive in the hills on twisty roads, but not quite enough on track.
i.e. switching to S mode now is usually just because I feel like revving it out and keeping it fizzing - but I get the impression that the GIAC's S mode is more than that. They say something like - 'not suitable for daily driving'.
This is a $900AUD purchase down under (440 pounds), so I'm certainly gonna quiz people about it before taking the plunge :happy2:
Edit - just saw Hurdy answered - thanks mate. I'm one step closer. The Aus govt just sent me a tidy tax return...
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I do the occasional sprint/superkhana event as well as track days and will probably hit the drag strip when spring rolls around down under - I want to know if the revised S mode is as manic as GIAC say it is.
I've used S mode plenty of times, it is just right for a drive in the hills on twisty roads, but not quite enough on track.
....As a track newbie I tried S-mode on Nurburgring but quickly reverted back to M-mode as it gives far more reliable control.
Does the GIAC DSG remap apply to S-mode? I would question the wisdom of doing so for D-mode and suggest that a DSG remap is best applied to M-mode.
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I got the impression D mode was effectively business as usual (unchanged), whereas both M/S are where the magic happens.
GIAC's description: http://www.giacusa.com/news.php?newsid=97
Strangely, the GIAC site doesn't have this line:
"Drive mode is recommended for daily commuting as our sport mode is much more aggressive than the factory sport mode. It is perfect for aggressive sprints and track or canyon runs."
Which is a line lifted from the Aussie reseller's site:
http://www.dubaddiction.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=36&products_id=78
I get the impression the DubAddiction text was lifted from GIAC - so wonder why GIAC removed that particular line.
Perhaps covering their arses and not wanting to endorse aggressive 'canyon runs'.
That sentence was what got me a bit more interested in it, hence all the specific S-mode questions!
I find these engines spin so smoothly that judging the RPM by ear is a bit of an art.
Sure I could look down, but tend not to when my mind is full of "BRAAAAAAAKE! - TUUUUUURN!... why is my helmet steaming up?"
I've been in M mode and tried cracking down a gear only to realise i'm already tickling 6000rpm... so I go into Playstation mode and switch back to S :happy2:
I know... I should be ashamed of myself. :embarrassed:
"I will use more M Mode this year." A late New Years resolution has been found. :laugh:
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"I will use more M Mode this year." A late New Years resolution has been found. :laugh:
....Better late than never! :happy2:
M-mode with the paddles is really the best of all and you can simply pop in and out of the others when you want. S-mode might be great but it's still the DSG which decides when to shift gear rather than you and even if your main attention is elsewhere it's so simple with your fingers next to the paddles.
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