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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: J400uk on February 18, 2015, 06:59:56 pm

Title: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: J400uk on February 18, 2015, 06:59:56 pm
Noticed today on the facelift Sharan (Boring...) that it appears to be fitted with next generation Mk7-style head units. What's interesting is unlike in the new Polo and Golf, they are now the same shape and size as the older Mk5/ Mk6 units (RNS 510 etc). So that got me thinking if its one unit without the extra bit in the glovebox, could it be a retrofit possibility?

Can't find many details apart from this excerpt in the press release:
The Sharan is one of the first Volkswagen vehicles to be equipped with "App Connect"; thanks to MirrorLinkTM, Android Auto (Google) and Car Play (Apple), a wide variety of apps can be fed into the new infotainment systems. The systems are also impressive due to their fast processors (optimised boot-up, quick route calculation, optimal touchscreen performance) and high-resolution displays

Apple Car Play would be very cool indeed!  :drool:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fx267%2FJ400uk%2FCapture_zps56f9pwdq.jpg&hash=24cad9485747644dac0d7dcea4ee8f564dee621b)
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: omeydz on February 18, 2015, 07:47:57 pm
Really interesting this! Good spot  :happy2:

Pretty sure we will be able to plug this in and get it working, possibly different story when it comes to getting display working in highline clocks and steering buttons working.

Well worth a punt ££ dependant
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 19, 2015, 08:24:57 am
it is the new version of the RNS315

Saw one in a skoda yeti the other day, it was an optional upgrade on the columbus (RNS510)

it will ok
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: mvb12 on February 19, 2015, 10:26:47 am
Sorry Eddy,

So these RNS units can work in our cars?

Anything needed to get it working or just plug and play?

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on February 19, 2015, 01:10:33 pm
Oh right I hadn't seen it in any Skodas. Since my earlier post I've found out VW are using the Composition/ Discover naming for these:

The Sharan also gets the second generation modular infotainment platform, available with either the 5-inch “Composition Colour” system or the 6.5-inch systems “Composition Media” or “Discover Media” (with navigation). MirrorLink, CarPlay (Apple), and Android Auto (Google) are offered as options.
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: mvb12 on February 20, 2015, 09:06:05 am
Sorry Eddy,

So these RNS units can work in our cars?

Anything needed to get it working or just plug and play?

 :popcornsoda:

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on February 21, 2015, 01:29:26 pm
New Beetle has it as well

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvolkswagen.klingt-gut.de%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Fdesktop%2Fbeetle-club%2Fradio.jpg&hash=e703d600d29e1cfc4c3b374bdb38bdc309d26106)

Sounds like Composition Colour is a new version of RNS 315 without Sat Nav (same screen size) and Composition Media will be the RCD 510 equivalent again without Sat Nav but gaining the larger screen. Discover Media is the one in my pictures which looks to replace the RNS 510.

These look to be the Skoda versions that Eddie saw in the Yeti:
http://ws.skoda-auto.com/OwnersManualService/Data/en/Yeti_5L/11-2014/Navigation/Amundsen/SUV_Yeti_Amundsen_InfotainmentNavigation.pdf
http://ws.skoda-auto.com/OwnersManualService/Data/en/Yeti_5L/11-2014/Radio/Bolero/SUV_Yeti_Bolero_InfotainmentRadio.pdf
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: Deako on February 23, 2015, 05:55:57 pm
Very exciting if I can replace my previous generation RNS315 in the Scirocco with one of these and also get Apple CarPlay. Just need a cheap supply now.
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: Deako on February 25, 2015, 07:46:52 pm
Anyone looking at this in any more detail?
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on April 15, 2015, 06:08:27 pm
Did anyone ever hear anything more on these new units? Information online still seems a bit thin on the ground. Posting as noticed one again today this time in a SEAT Alhambra

(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/10517235_10153216454039253_3611775788211949857_o.jpg)
Title: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: jedi-knight83 on April 18, 2015, 01:04:35 pm
My wife has a 2015 polo as a courtesy car... so naturally I took the head unit out to look :)

Its just a thin display. Totally different connector. Not sure if the one shown above will be different. The interface is brilliant though. Really want this in my car and van now.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F04%2F18%2F9ec3a4c5a6ecf00a6506e484c3d6fb74.jpg&hash=edbf691a2ef74af130a0d6b53ef6ad5fd3b35834)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F04%2F18%2Ff79814f4a5cc83f82be0cb9c6820782a.jpg&hash=a2b7977e3646886574accdd61a2313f223f2ccae)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F04%2F18%2F2c78808fc101094ac72ce0b7fc5d9d1d.jpg&hash=4a244ed221010863fe0d44304bd43a3ae3f5541b)
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: jedi-knight83 on May 03, 2015, 12:15:23 pm
Any more news on these head units. Anyone tried fitting one yet.


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Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: rich83 on May 03, 2015, 12:37:52 pm
My wife has a 2015 polo as a courtesy car... so naturally I took the head unit out to look :)

Its just a thin display. Totally different connector. Not sure if the one shown above will be different. The interface is brilliant though. Really want this in my car and van now.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F04%2F18%2F9ec3a4c5a6ecf00a6506e484c3d6fb74.jpg&hash=edbf691a2ef74af130a0d6b53ef6ad5fd3b35834)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F04%2F18%2Ff79814f4a5cc83f82be0cb9c6820782a.jpg&hash=a2b7977e3646886574accdd61a2313f223f2ccae)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F04%2F18%2F2c78808fc101094ac72ce0b7fc5d9d1d.jpg&hash=4a244ed221010863fe0d44304bd43a3ae3f5541b)

That looks like theres gonna be a "control module" somewhere, an thats just a "front panel"...
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: USBulldog on May 03, 2015, 04:33:32 pm
Yeah the control box is pictured here:
http://www.advanced-incar.co.uk/volkswagen-retrofits/vw-golf-mk7-navigation-retrofit-upgrade
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on May 03, 2015, 06:15:38 pm
The one fitted to the Polo is the same as Mk7 Golf and other MQB cars, so yes it would have a standalone control module

The unit I'm talking about is found in PQ35 related cars like the Beetle and Sharan and appears to all be in one enclosure as like the RNS 510!
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on May 26, 2015, 06:35:52 pm
Another sighting, this time in a UK model 2015 Beetle. Definitely looks more like a single unit compared to what the new Polo and Golf have...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.supercar.co.uk%2FContentDelivery%2FVehicleImage.axd%3FOfficeId%3D1%26amp%3BDefaultImage%3Dvolkswagen%26amp%3BWidth%3D1500%26amp%3BHeight%3D1000%26amp%3BVehicleId%3D605054157%26amp%3BView%3D12&hash=76fcec0b8881bd10db2f554adac2ef1e58716265)
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: leetdi22 on June 16, 2015, 08:58:51 pm
http://www.forum-auto.com/marques/volkswagen/sujet6116-9380.htm

page 269
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: galaxie500 on June 16, 2015, 11:04:14 pm
Lovely.
I don't have the French nor the time to translate this.
'B' grade O level in 1980 was quite an achievement but it doesn't cut it anymore!
A simple paragraph or two will suffice.
Can I put these new machines in my Mk V Golf?
C'est tout.
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on June 17, 2015, 07:17:36 pm
forum-auto doesn't really tell us much we don't know unfortunately. they only acknowledge their existence and suggest like i've been it *might* be possible to retrofit to a pq35 car (like the mk5/ mk6 golfs)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstaticclub.caradisiac.com%2F1%2Factualite-automobile%2Fdiscover-pro%2Fphoto%2F880653880%2F5204843ced%2Fdiscover-pro-mib2_pq-img.jpg%3Ftmp&hash=ec4b81df208951d079c26a5cd60c3a54f4dced26)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foeaf.com%2Fforum-tiguan%2Fimages%2Fupload%2Folvcrt%2F20150312_120003_bis_110.jpg&hash=9812cf3e914c911ea2e14d32ac9c3509bbea7e40)

EDIT: Also now spotted in the Scirocco!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.drive.ru%2Fi%2F0%2F552fa49395a65687fa000044.jpg&hash=b23fbbb8ae43ac6ad59631f95f531489a3d33c0b)
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: galaxie500 on June 17, 2015, 09:23:00 pm
This is good news non?
Tres bon mon ami :smiley:
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: supercati on June 21, 2015, 04:57:32 pm
This looks so so interesting.
If the screen can fit, the other module is normally located on another place. So the question I guess is to know if there's problem with the connectors, and then... coding stuff.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.computer-bild.de%2Fimgs%2F5%2F3%2F8%2F0%2F1%2F9%2F2%2FVW-Navigationssystem-Discover-Pro-360x203-1c9ba6aed5abd5dc.jpg&hash=3e5841bf2f84e87d3eb2faa974e371c8473ac5e6)

Here you can see it: 0:47

Here you can see the connectors:
*Note: The conectors I'm guessing will be the same, but this version is not screen + module, it goes all together.
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on June 21, 2015, 09:31:43 pm
This looks so so interesting.
If the screen can fit, the other module is normally located on another place. So the question I guess is to know if there's problem with the connectors, and then... coding stuff.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.computer-bild.de%2Fimgs%2F5%2F3%2F8%2F0%2F1%2F9%2F2%2FVW-Navigationssystem-Discover-Pro-360x203-1c9ba6aed5abd5dc.jpg&hash=3e5841bf2f84e87d3eb2faa974e371c8473ac5e6)

Here you can see it: 0:47

Here you can see the connectors:
*Note: The conectors I'm guessing will be the same, but this version is not screen + module, it goes all together.

What I'm trying to say is I don't think the ones in my post have the separate module

Yes you are right in a Golf Mk7 (or new Polo) you would have a separate module, but this potentially looks to be everything all in one enclosure...
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on June 21, 2015, 09:41:51 pm
The Scirocco/Beetle version looks ideal  :drool:
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: Mitch H on June 21, 2015, 09:55:16 pm
Come on then someone with too much money try it so we can all find out!
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: supercati on June 22, 2015, 08:09:00 am
What I'm trying to say is I don't think the ones in my post have the separate module

Yes you are right in a Golf Mk7 (or new Polo) you would have a separate module, but this potentially looks to be everything all in one enclosure...

We should have someone with one of these new mk7 stye units (or Alhambra, Scirocco, etc), who's willing to help us a little bit disassembling their own units to see how are they build (if they can fit, which seems to be really possible), and which type of connectors they use.
Do we know the names of this units? We know that there are at least two or more types (the one you show us "RNS/RCD shape", and the "Golf mk7 shape"; and one module all together, or two modules).

But even if they're separete modules, I don't think that's going to be a problem.

Now I'm thinking, that may be there are more things to care about as well, like Gateway.
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on June 22, 2015, 07:47:42 pm
Possible part number: 5C0035680C

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2Fwlh1c63aw%2Fradio_navigation_unit.jpg&hash=49d846fb5be105228433796cfcba581efd18e2d1)
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on June 22, 2015, 08:42:22 pm
Good post Golf_GT_TDI :happy2:

From Googling that part number these appear to be the different versions:

-------------------------------------------------
Discover Media "Tiguan, from 25.05.2015"
(Navi, Bluetooth + WLAN - 6.33 inch color display)
 
Part Number:
5C0 035 680 B / Standard = € 1309 gross
 
Part Number:
5C0 035 680 C / DAB + = € 1499 gross
 
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Composition Media "Tiguan, from 05.25.2015"
(Radio, Bluetooth - 6.33 inches inches Farbsisplay)
 
Part Number:
5K7 035 200 D / Standard = € 1,011.50 gross
 
Part Number:
5K7 035 200 E / DAB + = € 1166 gross
 
-------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: J400uk on June 22, 2015, 08:48:31 pm
More Googling and it seems I've found someone who has done it   :drool:



Fitted to a Touran!

Will continue searching to see if there is any actual information on how this was done...

EDIT: Few details and pictures here confirming it is one unit - http://forum.index.hu/Article/viewArticle?a=134210705&t=9187021
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: MateyGuv on June 22, 2015, 10:02:36 pm
Subscribed to this thread - really interested to see if this is a possible retro fit, keep up the research guys  :notworthy:
Noticed on the video the MFD has speed limit detection, lane departure warning etc... This could mean that the MK5 gateway and CECM may not be compatable - MK6 has a different system if memory serves correct. Also noticed the car it was working in has the three dials on the centre top dash. I don't think this is possible with MK5 electronics architecture either
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: supercati on June 22, 2015, 10:36:38 pm
More info/example: http://www.drive2.ru/b/1797054/ (http://www.club-yeti.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=10928)
User's Manual (Skoda Version):
[Russian]: http://ws.skoda-auto.com/OwnersManualService/Data/ru/Yeti_5L/11-2014/Navigation/Amundsen/SUV_Yeti_Amundsen_InfotainmentNavigation.pdf
[Spanish]: http://ws.skoda-auto.com/OwnersManualService/Data/es/Yeti_5L/11-2014/Navigation/Amundsen/SUV_Yeti_Amundsen_InfotainmentNavigation.pdf
(I'm native in Spanish so if you need specific translation of something let me know).

-------------------------------------------------
Discover Media "Tiguan, ab 25.05.2015"
(Navi, mit Bluetooth + WLAN - 6,33 Zoll Farbdisplay)
 
Teilenummer:
5C0 035 680 B / Standard = 1309€ Brutto
 
Teilenummer:
5C0 035 680 C / mit DAB+ = 1499€ Brutto
 
-------------------------------------------------
Composition Media "Tiguan, ab 25.05.2015"
(Radio, mit Bluetooth - 6,33 Zoll Zoll Farbsisplay)
 
Teilenummer:
5K7 035 200 D /Standard = 1011,50€ Brutto
 
Teilenummer:
5K7 035 200 E /mit DAB+ = 1166€ Brutto

Subscribed to this thread - really interested to see if this is a possible retro fit, keep up the research guys  :notworthy:
Noticed on the video the MFD has speed limit detection, lane departure warning etc... This could mean that the MK5 gateway and CECM may not be compatable - MK6 has a different system if memory serves correct. Also noticed the car it was working in has the three dials on the centre top dash. I don't think this is possible with MK5 electronics architecture either
It seems to be a Touran full of mods and retrofits: https://www.facebook.com/MyTouran.de / http://www.mytouran.de/html/unsere_touris.html
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: supercati on June 22, 2015, 11:22:08 pm
Quadlock connection on the back seems to be a little bit different compared, for example, to an RNS510.

This pic is from the back of the new unit (5C0 035 680):
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F1io1at.jpg&hash=2ea6dba156bc2d7ac1291288e96248f7af075780)

Compared to RNS510:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Fwww.my-gti.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fconnectors_rns_510_main_N91-10928.gif&hash=0f17b10a1ef3f449f5263a889635b05765b0e035)
http://www.myturbodiesel.com/images/a5/nav/rns510-pin-diagram.jpg
Title: Re: New MK7 style RNS head units with Apple Car Play. Retrofit?
Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on June 23, 2015, 12:12:27 am
Nice work guys, quadlock should be 8X0035444 checked on ETKA and seems good, comes up with this on google search...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faudi.afora.ru%2Fimages%2FTnrpics%2F8X0035444.jpg&hash=974b1a7f8ac993a3eb4a4a4f8bcfb08cb8edcb31)

Part number variantions with the head units in regards to A B C versions is with/without DAB/chinese market etc

EDIT: the grey 12pin shown below goes by part number 8X0035447B
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.audivw24.de%2Feng_il_CONNECTOR-CONTACT-VW-AUDI-SKODA-SEAT-8X0035444-15537.jpg&hash=192ecad57f273aa60dd5ea59b5fcea05e13a45d6)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: J400uk on June 23, 2015, 05:57:17 pm
Good link from supercati, seems to contain a lot of info!- http://www.drive2.ru/b/1797054/

Subscribed to this thread - really interested to see if this is a possible retro fit, keep up the research guys  :notworthy:
Noticed on the video the MFD has speed limit detection, lane departure warning etc... This could mean that the MK5 gateway and CECM may not be compatable - MK6 has a different system if memory serves correct. Also noticed the car it was working in has the three dials on the centre top dash. I don't think this is possible with MK5 electronics architecture either

I'd imagine it will require a BAP compatible cluster to display in the MFD. Same as the RNS 315. So will probably work in any Mk6 or a Mk5 with the new cluster.

Not sure about gateway compatibility but the part must exist and they aren't usually expensive.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: MateyGuv on June 23, 2015, 06:01:00 pm
Subscribed to this thread - really interested to see if this is a possible retro fit, keep up the research guys  :notworthy:
Noticed on the video the MFD has speed limit detection, lane departure warning etc... This could mean that the MK5 gateway and CECM may not be compatable - MK6 has a different system if memory serves correct. Also noticed the car it was working in has the three dials on the centre top dash. I don't think this is possible with MK5 electronics architecture either

I'd imagine it will require a BAP compatible cluster to display in the MFD. Same as the RNS 315. So will probably work in any Mk6 or a Mk5 with the new cluster.

Not sure about gateway compatibility but the part must exist and they aren't usually expensive.
Iv got a MK6 colour MFD hybrid in my MK5 so even more interested if this can work now  :party: Isn't it a BCM the MK6 uses though?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: J400uk on June 23, 2015, 06:15:32 pm
Subscribed to this thread - really interested to see if this is a possible retro fit, keep up the research guys  :notworthy:
Noticed on the video the MFD has speed limit detection, lane departure warning etc... This could mean that the MK5 gateway and CECM may not be compatable - MK6 has a different system if memory serves correct. Also noticed the car it was working in has the three dials on the centre top dash. I don't think this is possible with MK5 electronics architecture either

I'd imagine it will require a BAP compatible cluster to display in the MFD. Same as the RNS 315. So will probably work in any Mk6 or a Mk5 with the new cluster.

Not sure about gateway compatibility but the part must exist and they aren't usually expensive.
Iv got a MK6 colour MFD hybrid in my MK5 so even more interested if this can work now  :party: Isn't it a BCM the MK6 uses though?

 I don't know if the BCM would impact the head unit as that's separate. BAP is the protocol the cluster users for communication which yours will have.

Wonder who will be the first in the UK to attempt a retrofit!

Also can't remember if mentioned but apparently the Mk6 Golf Convertible will be getting these imminently which will be very interesting to see, especially if one ends up at a breakers yard...
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: MateyGuv on June 23, 2015, 06:42:32 pm
On another note, the new scirocco dials as shown in the picture on previous page..... does that look like it'll fit a MK5?
Colour 3D MFD  :laugh:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: supercati on June 23, 2015, 08:11:18 pm
I managed to get few more pics of the unit  :happy2:. I do not have it (unluckily), but someone sent me some pics of this unit so here they go!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2hgxpj8.jpg&hash=e5726f1dcb7ee5c2bb3f8eaba739d4fc01372f66)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F339unol.jpg&hash=03aa993058395eef74601e07b694a3b581273133)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F205y2r8.jpg&hash=5c172f9c31611afc9abfe12c0cf83943ac69b110)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fs5hjki.jpg&hash=b30aaa6a2b1ee2546c935b72447e5b170c618d3c)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fkebv2e.jpg&hash=61ed59e8eb4130544c69617f6e1a142d108ca990)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F5tfh2.jpg&hash=ecea80ab0ca7b66a706beb3eecdc506c51207d23)

 :grin:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: MateyGuv on June 23, 2015, 10:24:22 pm
Black = DAB
Whites = FM/AM
Blue = Phone??
Beige/Yellow = ???

Anyone enlighten me?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: omeydz on June 23, 2015, 10:28:26 pm
Black is DAB, Blue is GPS, White is AM/FM antennae, Beige is for external media I think (no special aerial for HD radio I dont think)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: MateyGuv on June 23, 2015, 10:32:11 pm
Oh yeah - GPS  :signLOL:
External media like MDI?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on June 23, 2015, 10:38:03 pm
Beige/Yellow = ???
Others since covered while I was typing, so to cover the one left.. it is a 4pin HSD (high speed data) Fakra connector, guessing media input?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: MateyGuv on June 23, 2015, 10:45:42 pm
I have the reverse camera on my rns510 which had a separate connector that doesn't seem to be on this unit - any ideas if this would work on the new system?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: USBulldog on June 24, 2015, 07:02:22 am
The yellow could be for USB input.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: kmo17 on June 30, 2015, 07:31:40 am
Mornin' guys i saw your disscution here ,and it seems to me its not a straight swap. I could get one of theese media units cheap but it seems to be something different with the one i've found..(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg32.olx.ro%2Fimages_mercadorro%2F56663231_1_1000x700_navigatie-originala-vw-golf-7-si-alte-piese-sh-vw-golf-7-suceava.jpg&hash=665aa45cb2cc80d58626a4e165c2eacc778ed294)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: supercati on June 30, 2015, 12:32:36 pm
One italian fitted one in his Golf VI, but still isn't working:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F06%2F25%2F792ce52f8a5de1662beccb2ffb8ac2fd.jpg&hash=7befe533f2a19b6297d433590848b95e76b67f71)

http://www.vwitalia.it/forum/f108/gtd-vitopon-6655-569.html They have info on this page and onwards about some investigation they're making for the cables and rear quadlock.

Mornin' guys i saw your disscution here ,and it seems to me its not a straight swap. I could get one of theese media units cheap but it seems to be something different with the one i've found..
http://img32.olx.ro/images_mercadorro/56663231_1_1000x700_navigatie-originala-vw-golf-7-si-alte-piese-sh-vw-golf-7-suceava.jpg

Look at the photos, the one you're showing us it's different shape. The one we're talking about it's RNS/RCD shape  :smiley:.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: supercati on July 10, 2015, 06:37:38 pm
There are not new updatdes from anyone? :)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: omeydz on August 01, 2015, 12:04:27 pm
It appears the Italians have thrown in the towel. The new electronics in MK7 platform have enhanced component protection (requiring VINs etc now too) and despite wiring correctly and having very latest CAN gateway etc they could power up the unit but not properly use it. Poor guy bought it brand new for 4 figure sum from dealers!! Sucks for him eh.

Appears to be a dead-end for now sadly.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: dahui9 on October 09, 2015, 03:14:58 am
Any updated information on this, I've been chasing this in the US now for about a week and this is the most information I've found on this system period.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Deako on October 09, 2015, 08:59:57 pm
Don't understand why they can't get this working when it's being fitted to the Beetle and Scirocco which still use the Mk5 platform? Or have they updated all the electronics in these cars now?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: J400uk on October 10, 2015, 07:12:26 pm
Don't understand why they can't get this working when it's being fitted to the Beetle and Scirocco which still use the Mk5 platform? Or have they updated all the electronics in these cars now?

Seems to be more related to the component protection, which is the same problem you'd get if you tried to fit Nav to a mK7 which didn't originally have it from the factory.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: cwscotty on October 11, 2015, 09:03:00 am
Don't understand why they can't get this working when it's being fitted to the Beetle and Scirocco which still use the Mk5 platform? Or have they updated all the electronics in these cars now?

Seems to be more related to the component protection, which is the same problem you'd get if you tried to fit Nav to a mK7 which didn't originally have it from the factory.

Cant the dealer remove component protection via online connection to VW? I found a site that has just started selling these PQ units.
http://www.factory-retrofits.co.uk/vw-discover-media-dab-navigation-system-5c0035680c-scirocco-caddy-transporter-beetle-tiguan/
They say that a retrofit harness is required, but don't make mention of the component protection, which i've asked for clarification from them.

I did notice that these people are selling the full blown Discover Pro with component protection disabled. http://jku.com.au/genuine-vw-golf-7-r-8-discovery-pro-sat-nav-retrofit-kit-with-active-australia-maps-oem-5g0035043b.html
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Deako on October 14, 2015, 09:03:16 pm
That first link is very interesting.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: jettamike on October 27, 2015, 07:16:05 pm
Anyone got any further on this? I was all set to buy a 510 dab, but just had a courtesy beetle given to me for a few days and the radio in it is quite a piece of kit compared to my old RCD 300 in the Jetta.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Deako on October 27, 2015, 07:30:26 pm
They are also being sold on eBay now too and mention of Adapter harness being required.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on October 27, 2015, 10:34:43 pm
You will need to remove Component Protection on second hand unit before fitting it to your car guys.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Deako on October 28, 2015, 01:18:12 am
Company selling them says they are ready to fit.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on October 28, 2015, 07:03:03 am
So buy it and you will find out
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: cwscotty on October 28, 2015, 01:04:34 pm
Company selling them says they are ready to fit.

If this is the link on eBay your referring to: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-DISCOVER-MEDIA-DAB-NAVIGATION-SYSTEM-5C0035680C-SCIROCCO-CADDY-T5-T6-/281823034664?hash=item419df63d28:g:i9kAAOSwhcJWHokw
It is from the factory-retrofits.co.uk company listed in my post above. There is a comment in the description that component protection needs to be worked out, and the maps cannot be activated at this time. You'll also need a wire harness, possibly a new CAN gateway, and I read somewhere that you also need the 3D Premium instrument cluster.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Deako on October 28, 2015, 04:13:57 pm
I have no intention of fitting one.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on October 28, 2015, 08:40:06 pm
Ok. Yes they are ready to fit but... They want to fit. Once fitted Component Protection needs to be removed. They didnt wrote it in description. Thats all
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: MateyGuv on October 28, 2015, 10:40:50 pm
As far as I can find out it is also likely that additional items we are using with our RNS etc like MDI, phone kits, rear view cameras etc won't be compatable with these units  :sad1:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on October 28, 2015, 10:53:48 pm
This units has BT build in. RVC should work on it as it has the same input. MDI - never used it since i can stream the music from my phone. Useless for me.

I still think its a great unit but I'm not going to spend £1k on the unit plus £150 for fitting they asking. For that sort of money I can get quite good audio set up for my boot hehe
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: MateyGuv on October 28, 2015, 10:59:51 pm
This units has BT build in. RVC should work on it as it has the same input. MDI - never used it since i can stream the music from my phone. Useless for me.

I still think its a great unit but I'm not going to spend £1k on the unit plus £150 for fitting they asking. For that sort of money I can get quite good audio set up for my boot hehe
If BT is in the unit anyway that's good to know. My RVC connection is a rectangular block and from the pictures Iv seen of the rear of these new units I couldn't see the connector - hope I'm wrong cause I do really want one of these. Please correct me if I'm wrong but if streaming music from my iPhone the Album cover art wouldn't show so would need the MDI (or equivalent) for that to display. That's one of the big draws of this unit for me. I can't find any information if these new units would display nav info etc etc through the MFD in the dash. Do you know if they would?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: jettamike on October 29, 2015, 11:56:09 am
This units has BT build in. RVC should work on it as it has the same input. MDI - never used it since i can stream the music from my phone. Useless for me.

I still think its a great unit but I'm not going to spend £1k on the unit plus £150 for fitting they asking. For that sort of money I can get quite good audio set up for my boot hehe
If BT is in the unit anyway that's good to know. My RVC connection is a rectangular block and from the pictures Iv seen of the rear of these new units I couldn't see the connector - hope I'm wrong cause I do really want one of these. Please correct me if I'm wrong but if streaming music from my iPhone the Album cover art wouldn't show so would need the MDI (or equivalent) for that to display. That's one of the big draws of this unit for me. I can't find any information if these new units would display nav info etc etc through the MFD in the dash. Do you know if they would?

I've currently got a courtesy Beetle with this unit in it. The navigation is displayed in the dashboard on that- though I'm not sure how well it would play with the mk5 setup. The stereo is the only thing I like about the beetle, think it did a DPF regen yesterday - it smelt like the car was going to combust on me!
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: kmo17 on December 02, 2015, 09:43:29 am
could anyone shed some light with this head unit ? http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Genuine-Upgrade-RCD510-VOLKSWAGEN-VW-PQ-platform-MIB-System-for-PQ-platform-support-mirrorlink-Super-Bluetooth/1711589_32553440876.html ? saw it on a chinese part seller. Looks really great and it has a couple of extra features from the old rcd 510 . Did anyone saw this before ,could it be fitted on a mk5 ? cheers !!
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: J400uk on December 04, 2015, 06:17:56 pm
could anyone shed some light with this head unit ? http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Genuine-Upgrade-RCD510-VOLKSWAGEN-VW-PQ-platform-MIB-System-for-PQ-platform-support-mirrorlink-Super-Bluetooth/1711589_32553440876.html ? saw it on a chinese part seller. Looks really great and it has a couple of extra features from the old rcd 510 . Did anyone saw this before ,could it be fitted on a mk5 ? cheers !!

Good spot, hadn't come across that before. Looks like a replacement for the Chinese market RCD 510 which has been covered before. In theory that could be the answer to easily and cheaply get CarPlay in a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf with minimal effort whilst keeping it OEM. Suspect it will have the usual caveat of no RDS, meaning station names aren't displayed and you just get 96.4 FM on the screen. Unfortunately I haven't got one anymore to try it with otherwise I'd buy!
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: kmo17 on December 08, 2015, 02:07:49 pm
would try to buy this ,i did not see any review on this product yet..on any site forum or retail page. i hope i would not have the same problem withe discover media pro unit..cheers
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: gvforces on April 09, 2016, 11:59:01 pm
Hey guys,
I have recently gotten my hands on one of these. I've tried on a Golf MK6 and a MK5. I cannot get it to communicate with the car via the can wires. I added the other power cable. The radio turns on and has sound. But the lights do not come on it does not recognize the car and I have tried using VCDS to get into the radio, the car does not see the radio either.
A lot of functions in the radio are disabled because it asks for the ignition to be ON.
Any news on this? I read about component protection any way that can be removed? Is that the problem or do I need to add or change some hardware
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: nico33 on April 15, 2016, 05:54:35 pm
Since it looks so difficult to retrofit a Discover, I'm considering to buy the new Zenec E2026
Anyone had good or bad experience with this ? (I mean the old version E2015)
What do you think ?
Can it be as good and well integrated as an original VW could be ?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: cbx750p on June 02, 2016, 10:11:25 am
Hey guys,
I have recently gotten my hands on one of these. I've tried on a Golf MK6 and a MK5. I cannot get it to communicate with the car via the can wires. I added the other power cable. The radio turns on and has sound. But the lights do not come on it does not recognize the car and I have tried using VCDS to get into the radio, the car does not see the radio either.
A lot of functions in the radio are disabled because it asks for the ignition to be ON.
Any news on this? I read about component protection any way that can be removed? Is that the problem or do I need to add or change some hardware

Hi M8, does the set you have obtained came with the Component Protection unlocked ? 

Spoke to several suppliers but they are not able to provide the unlocked version.

Please advise.

Thanks
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: aadilp1 on June 03, 2016, 10:05:24 am
Hey guys,
I have recently gotten my hands on one of these. I've tried on a Golf MK6 and a MK5. I cannot get it to communicate with the car via the can wires. I added the other power cable. The radio turns on and has sound. But the lights do not come on it does not recognize the car and I have tried using VCDS to get into the radio, the car does not see the radio either.
A lot of functions in the radio are disabled because it asks for the ignition to be ON.
Any news on this? I read about component protection any way that can be removed? Is that the problem or do I need to add or change some hardware

Hi M8, does the set you have obtained came with the Component Protection unlocked ? 

Spoke to several suppliers but they are not able to provide the unlocked version.

Please advise.

Thanks

ive got one of these too and also tried in my car.. same no communication and a lot of the features are not working. The component protection is unlocked
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: mvb12 on June 03, 2016, 11:09:00 am
So to clarify this is absolutely useless for mk5/mk6?


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Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on June 03, 2016, 11:28:03 am
No its not. I know the guy ho fitted it in 2004 Touran and it works fine.
Wiring in MK5/6 is different so had to be rewired.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: aadilp1 on June 03, 2016, 11:30:35 am
No its not. I know the guy ho fitted it in 2004 Touran and it works fine.
Wiring in MK5/6 is different so had to be rewired.

Theres a guy abroad (forgot where hes from) who has also retrofitted to a 2012 Passat B7
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: mvb12 on June 05, 2016, 08:38:03 am
Who can do it as i want one. Any details?


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Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: mvb12 on June 08, 2016, 02:10:44 pm
Details of the Touran guy anyone?


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Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Biff on August 24, 2016, 09:32:09 pm
Who can do it as i want one. Any details?


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+1 very curious to give this a try.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: bigwig74 on December 06, 2016, 09:34:14 pm
did anyone have any luck with this retrofit?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on December 27, 2016, 12:35:53 am
Hi. I have found this thread while searching web to find some issues I met with retrofitting of Discover Media units into Mk5/Mk6 platform cars.

Basically I can say: yes, I have managed it. I will post some more information in couple of hours (it's 1:35 Am here in Poland and I'm a bit sleepy)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on December 27, 2016, 08:00:54 am
As promised :) The whole story started 10 months ago when I bought Amundsen 5L0035680C unit (Skoda version of Discover Media) and decided to fit it into my 2011 Skoda Superb. It took 6 months of work to prepare and test the solution. Process steps:
1. You need a radio. The best is to get radio that has not been locked with Component Protection (CP) and that has all the features you are interested in activated (e.g. Voice Control, App-Connect).
2. Dedicated hardware patch has to be installed inside the radio. It protects the radio from self-activation of CP when the timer is reached.
3. If you have 3D instruments then you need additional CAN filter that prevents radio to be CP locked by the order from instruments.

I know it sounds a bit complicated so let me put some more explantaions.

Ad. 1 - if you buy radio with not all the features you want activated then missing features have to be activated which is a bit expensive and it doesn't matter if you activate 1 or all features. It's even worse if you get CP locked radioa as it requires first unlocking and then activation of all the features (during CP removal all the fetaures are deactivated so they have to be activated again). The worst is when you buy CP locked unit which has been stolen and is blacklisted in GeKo - such unit is not usable. So be careful when buying the units!!!

Ad. 2 - when radio is for the first time powered outside donor car it starts internal timer which according to my experience is set to approx. 8 hours of operations. When the timer expires unit automatically locks itself with CP. Timer runs every time the unit is powered - e.g.. if you drive 1 hour a day then after 8 days the unit will lock itself. HW patch resets this timer every time the unit is restarted so after every restart you have the same amount of time available before unit locks. And even when it locks all you have to do is push power button for couple of second so the unit is restarted :) The  issue is that usually you don't know how much time is left when you buy the unit - so if you patch the unit that was already running for 7.5 hours it will be locking itself every 30 minutes :(

Ad. 3 - new 3D FIS instruments have CP management built-in. In such case, when instruments software realizes there was a radio change it immediately sends over CAN frame which lock radio with CP. The filter you install does not allow this frame to be delivered to radio. If you have white FIS instruments don't manage CP so in such case this filter is not required.

I have not managed all the issues yet - affected are cars with Sound System (no sound at all) and reverse cameras (the camera works only with OPS installed I;m not able to have on one screen both reverse camera and OPS visualisation). I'm working on both issues and expect to have them solved within few weeks.

Just before X-mas I installed Discovery Media in 2011 Scirocco. The site is in Polish but I think you will enjoy it anyway http://forum.golf6.pl/vw-inne-profil/vw-scirocco-2-0tdi-indywidual-2011-by-dark55-t4954-10.html
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: mvb12 on December 30, 2016, 07:00:41 pm
As promised :) The whole story started 10 months ago when I bought Amundsen 5L0035680C unit (Skoda version of Discover Media) and decided to fit it into my 2011 Skoda Superb. It took 6 months of work to prepare and test the solution. Process steps:
1. You need a radio. The best is to get radio that has not been locked with Component Protection (CP) and that has all the features you are interested in activated (e.g. Voice Control, App-Connect).
2. Dedicated hardware patch has to be installed inside the radio. It protects the radio from self-activation of CP when the timer is reached.
3. If you have 3D instruments then you need additional CAN filter that prevents radio to be CP locked by the order from instruments.

I know it sounds a bit complicated so let me put some more explantaions.

Ad. 1 - if you buy radio with not all the features you want activated then missing features have to be activated which is a bit expensive and it doesn't matter if you activate 1 or all features. It's even worse if you get CP locked radioa as it requires first unlocking and then activation of all the features (during CP removal all the fetaures are deactivated so they have to be activated again). The worst is when you buy CP locked unit which has been stolen and is blacklisted in GeKo - such unit is not usable. So be careful when buying the units!!!

Ad. 2 - when radio is for the first time powered outside donor car it starts internal timer which according to my experience is set to approx. 8 hours of operations. When the timer expires unit automatically locks itself with CP. Timer runs every time the unit is powered - e.g.. if you drive 1 hour a day then after 8 days the unit will lock itself. HW patch resets this timer every time the unit is restarted so after every restart you have the same amount of time available before unit locks. And even when it locks all you have to do is push power button for couple of second so the unit is restarted :) The  issue is that usually you don't know how much time is left when you buy the unit - so if you patch the unit that was already running for 7.5 hours it will be locking itself every 30 minutes :(

Ad. 3 - new 3D FIS instruments have CP management built-in. In such case, when instruments software realizes there was a radio change it immediately sends over CAN frame which lock radio with CP. The filter you install does not allow this frame to be delivered to radio. If you have white FIS instruments don't manage CP so in such case this filter is not required.

I have not managed all the issues yet - affected are cars with Sound System (no sound at all) and reverse cameras (the camera works only with OPS installed I;m not able to have on one screen both reverse camera and OPS visualisation). I'm working on both issues and expect to have them solved within few weeks.

Just before X-mas I installed Discovery Media in 2011 Scirocco. The site is in Polish but I think you will enjoy it anyway http://forum.golf6.pl/vw-inne-profil/vw-scirocco-2-0tdi-indywidual-2011-by-dark55-t4954-10.html

This is quite interesting.

SO tell me, how you know if its CP protected? what if the seller dont know is there any way of knowong mfrom the unit itself? is this issue specific to a certain revision/model or all the discover Media units have the CP issue?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on December 30, 2016, 07:36:01 pm
Quite easy - connect it just to the power supply and turn on. If you don't get Component Protection message on the screen then it's OK.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: mvb12 on December 30, 2016, 08:41:12 pm
o.k sweet.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on January 18, 2017, 01:44:57 pm
Hi guys
Last Saturday I  successfully retrofitted Discover Media unit into Ady's 2005 Golf MK5. Some of you probably see it already but there are the pics:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F9875500D-7D79-4230-A382-77D8D602E3DB.jpg&hash=7eebc09ee21f95b095b70dde9be743af6524b19a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F091CE304-1A9B-480C-9AC2-05F08E60C5F1.jpg&hash=ab5eb5690da3f04e43cd2b03ecd1826e68d2775f)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2FC175BD56-10D2-4641-A902-789B9DD319A7.jpg&hash=4853bb21503aa250983a2033d85486ac5644db8f)

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Unfortunately we didnt have time to play with it yet and just fitted it to see how it goes. All will be finished this Saturday so more pics to follow. All works fine on White or Colour clocks so far.

Regards
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Aleksaa on January 18, 2017, 02:27:08 pm
Could you tell me the full "name" of the navi? Because i couldn't find it on the internet, and I would like to retrofit it.

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Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on January 18, 2017, 04:00:36 pm
Discover Media
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Aleksaa on January 18, 2017, 04:44:48 pm
Yes, I know that. But is there some particular code for this type of Discovery which fits in older cars?

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Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on January 18, 2017, 07:31:06 pm
You cant fit it just like that. Component Protection needs to be removed and maps activated. Its not plug & play like RNS510
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on January 21, 2017, 10:56:07 am
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Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Stupots on February 15, 2017, 10:49:35 am
Hi @olsen-72 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4567) any update on this? Is this a service you will soon be offering alongside your others? Thanks in advance. Stu.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: spicypixel on February 15, 2017, 05:09:54 pm
Yeah I too wish to know this, be nice to upgrade to it. Few questions though.

Will it work with the mk5 existing optical reversing sensors? If not is it a simple swap to newer ones?
Does it work with a mk6 VW reversing camera that works with the RNS510?
Does it show the seating heating control overlay with a mk6 climatronic panel (or mk7 if I cut off the excessive plastic fascia) like the RNS510.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: golfman on February 18, 2017, 09:39:18 am
These guys can supply and fit the discover media to your car
http://www.advanced-incar.co.uk
Also if you are on Facebook search for them and there is page with them offering the unit
I've also bought a highline reversing camera kit from them and they are great bunch of guys

scott :happy2:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on February 20, 2017, 08:29:56 am
These guys can supply and fit the discover media to your car
http://www.advanced-incar.co.uk
Also if you are on Facebook search for them and there is page with them offering the unit
I've also bought a highline reversing camera kit from them and they are great bunch of guys

scott :happy2:

They don't list discover media..... but looking at other prices, be cheaper to buy a new mk7  :scared:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Shoduchi on February 20, 2017, 11:14:21 am
They don't list discover media..... but looking at other prices, be cheaper to buy a new mk7  :scared:

 :signLOL:

I have a friend who's interested in this retrofit. I told him to send an email to this shop asking for the price of the discover media. He might not like the price very much, I'm afraid... :scared:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: bigwig74 on February 26, 2017, 04:11:51 pm
found this company that does this retrofit http://vagtec.co.uk
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Stupots on March 10, 2017, 04:52:00 pm
found this company that does this retrofit http://vagtec.co.uk

Looks like they only offer this as a "retrofit" on a Mk7 (2015 onwards). Also, if you want maps/voice control/App connect/component protection removed/etc it's all extra and comes to quite a bit of money.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Christiank on March 10, 2017, 07:20:57 pm
I just received my mib2 unit with DAB, ready for mirror link and apple play/android go..
- Will be installing it at the beginning next week, waiting for some cables for it..

So for sure it can be done right these days :)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: nico33 on March 13, 2017, 02:19:50 pm
Where did you buy it ? Unlocked ?

I just received my mib2 unit
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on March 14, 2017, 10:10:40 am
Be careful - in Mk5 there is an issue with navigation: probably due to some speed information missing the car on the mangoes not move smoothly but it "jumps" every few seconds. Let me know if you find the same issue when you have your unit installed.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on March 14, 2017, 01:22:27 pm
Be careful - in Mk5 there is an issue with navigation: probably due to some speed information missing the car on the mangoes not move smoothly but it "jumps" every few seconds. Let me know if you find the same issue when you have your unit installed.

My friends car has this problem.....sat nav totally useless.
It updates and works for about 1 second, every 20 seconds....

Have you found a work around?
.....I've scanned and changed loads of parameters, to match a vehicle it works in (mk6).
Also changed gateway to match the working vehicle but nothing works - just can't get his to work in mk5.

It gets perfect sat nav GPS signal..... it is the speed signal not being read.
Strange that an RNS510 sat nav, that also uses speed (gala) signal for satnat...works fine in it.

It seems hit and miss, some cars it works (mk6), some it won't (mk5). 
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on March 14, 2017, 01:42:15 pm
I am working on it - will let you know when I have a solution.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Christiank on March 18, 2017, 12:04:40 am
@nico33 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=16023)

(https://billedeupload.dk/images/CGDeg.jpg)
Up and running! 

Everything works in mine and the map doesn't skip? Great upgrade from the 510! - LIKE ALOT! :D  :driver:
- I even have the PDC screen working after some coding which they say shouldn't work with the "E" 8sensor PDC module from the Mk6.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on March 18, 2017, 09:59:43 am
@nico33 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=16023)

(https://billedeupload.dk/images/CGDeg.jpg)
Up and running! 

Everything works in mine and the map doesn't skip? Great upgrade from the 510! - LIKE ALOT! :D  :driver:
- I even have the PDC screen working after some coding which they say shouldn't work with the "E" 8sensor PDC module from the Mk6.


Is it mk5 and what year is your car?

Also could you do a vagcom scan of your car please

I'm interested to know what gateway version you have
Also ABS pump......
I think late mk5 and obviously mk6 had updated abs pumps with long coding
Earlier ones had short coding.....
I think this may have a connection, as all speed sensors go to abs pump first!

Only things I can see that change are the
Gateway, abs pump, clocks

I'm also unsure about the adaptor cable, as lots of pins from old to new are not connected.  It seems strange that the car gives a fitted RNS510 all the speed info and works..... but not the discover media unit. 

I also see you are in Denmark, so assume left hand drive, but would this make a difference?

Love to compare a scan from a mk5 if works in.

I've tried everything now and just head scratching....
Cheers Ady
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Christiank on March 18, 2017, 03:44:47 pm
My Mk5 is a MY2005. - Just putted in a mk7 climatronic panel and custom made the frame since mk5 frames only is possible to get with mk5 or mk6 control panel.

I've replaced my old MK60 ABS with a MK60EC1 "BE" unit and my Gateway is a 7N0 907 530 AM. Don't think it would make any difference if you have RHD or LHD :)


Can't put up a full scan last next week when I've got my cable back :) - Should also have fitted my 3D Tiquan cluster by that time. :pomppomp:

The only thing there's different from my quadlock connector from the car is that the Bluetooth microphone isn't going in pin1-7 at the green connector like on the RNS315/510.  this one goes 1-7 in blue connector and the green connector is for the AUX and USB for the carplay/mirrorlink cable.




Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on March 18, 2017, 06:13:46 pm
Thank you. 
I upgraded my gateway for AN to avoid battery drain with RNS510
When fitted discover media and sat nav wouldn't work, I noticed 'infotainment' wasn't displayed but could get it by typing 5F
I thought putting latest BC gateway would solve this.
With BC I get 'infotainment' but sat nav still not working.

Tried unit in a 2012 caddy and it worked.  That had H gateway, quite early so bought a H and tried it, still no sat nav so think I can rule that out!

2012 caddy has newer abs pump, you've upgraded yours.
I think this could be the main difference to look. 

Still unsure how RNS can get all the data signal but infotainment won't :(

I have 3d clocks but CP protect comes up.
Lucky I also have full colour 2D too so swapped down for now

I also gave mk7 climatronic panel
Bought the scirocco bottom half and old mk5 top half. 
Just got to chop and join them.
Was it easy to hide join and paint to match the dark grey finish?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Christiank on March 18, 2017, 07:15:21 pm
Thank you. 
I upgraded my gateway for AN to avoid battery drain with RNS510
When fitted discover media and sat nav wouldn't work, I noticed 'infotainment' wasn't displayed but could get it by typing 5F
I thought putting latest BC gateway would solve this.
With BC I get 'infotainment' but sat nav still not working.

Tried unit in a 2012 caddy and it worked.  That had H gateway, quite early so bought a H and tried it, still no sat nav so think I can rule that out!

2012 caddy has newer abs pump, you've upgraded yours.
I think this could be the main difference to look. 

Still unsure how RNS can get all the data signal but infotainment won't :(

I have 3d clocks but CP protect comes up.
Lucky I also have full colour 2D too so swapped down for now

I also gave mk7 climatronic panel
Bought the scirocco bottom half and old mk5 top half. 
Just got to chop and join them.
Was it easy to hide join and paint to match the dark grey finish?

Not sure which data you're after that you get on the RNS and not the MIB 2?
I've got a can-blocker on mine that will bypass the CP lock with the 3d cluster :)

retrofitting the mk7 clima panel is an easy job. Yea you need your current facia and cut out a piece that you can replace with a piece that'll fit the new panel. Tried to trim down the Scirocco panel at first, but wasn't never happy with the result - so I'll cutted both parts up and plastic welded it together again.

I've wrapped mine with 3M black brushed look to avoid paint.. Marked up how I cutted mine to make it fit.. Just had a recent break in, in the car so this frame is broken that's why it look that way it does hehe..

(https://billedeupload.dk/images/ZfxS.jpg)

All though I'm going to make a new piece to make it fit with my new climatronic panel that will have same adjustment wheels as the wheel on the mib2. The panel I've got installed now is with matching wheels to the RNS units. - Still will have the function of my air quality sensor with the new panel too :)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on March 18, 2017, 11:05:17 pm
Looks ace.
I have the two fascia panels... was thinking of cutting both about half way up the radio......  SD card slot height and joining there.
Bond in a piece of plastic strip at the back for strength. 
There is a flat area, each side, between the clips.

Regarding the CP blocker. I need to get one, for 3D clocks but think they're expensive.... would look into gettjng one, but not without the sat nav working....
Although maybe this would help sat nav work too?   Who knows.....  LoL

It's not getting the 'speed' sensor info.... to tell sat nav the car is travelling.
Gps signal is fine, but only checks this every now and again to check car is where it should be.   Inbetween it moves by car speed.   Without this it doesn't work :(
Strange tho. In green diagnostic menu there is a speed display (kph) and that works...so speed signal is there.   Just sat nav isn't seeing it :(

Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Christiank on March 19, 2017, 10:06:20 pm
Looks ace.
I have the two fascia panels... was thinking of cutting both about half way up the radio......  SD card slot height and joining there.
Bond in a piece of plastic strip at the back for strength. 
There is a flat area, each side, between the clips.

Regarding the CP blocker. I need to get one, for 3D clocks but think they're expensive.... would look into gettjng one, but not without the sat nav working....
Although maybe this would help sat nav work too?   Who knows.....  LoL

It's not getting the 'speed' sensor info.... to tell sat nav the car is travelling.
Gps signal is fine, but only checks this every now and again to check car is where it should be.   Inbetween it moves by car speed.   Without this it doesn't work :(
Strange tho. In green diagnostic menu there is a speed display (kph) and that works...so speed signal is there.   Just sat nav isn't seeing it :(

Ah yea, my car position is always updated on the map :)
- just to clear I don't think you'll need a blocker for the 3d cluster.

You need the blocker on the mib2 imo... But I'm no expert on these blockers.  :fighting2:

About the facia I really think you should be careful with the way you're going to cut this. When I cutted down the part from the scirocco the frame felt a bit thicker round the navi unit and didn't look right. - That's why I did it the way like I marked with red on the picture above :)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on March 20, 2017, 08:20:05 am
I think the problem is either.....

newer (long code) abs pump needed
Adapter loom incorrect (as rns510 works fine)
     Although I will need adapter with CP blocker for 3d clocks
Possibly faulty radio......

only things left that it can be..... :(

With facscia.....I don't think I can cut both panels neatly enough and inlay one into other.
I think horizontal line, each side of radio is a neater option for me :D
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on March 22, 2017, 06:24:53 am
What is the software you have in 3D cluster? So far all 3D clusters I know manage CP therefore you need CAN filter. They are indeed expensive - 125 EUR.

Nav issue is indeed caused by ABS pump - we have identified missing one frame in older ABS pump CAN protocol that causes this issue. We are working on solution - I will let you know when it's ready.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on March 27, 2017, 01:15:16 pm
I have two sets of clocks, I can swap between

3D COLOUR CLUSTER - PREFER BUT NEEDS CP FILTER
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5K7 920 881 G    HW: 5K7 920 881 G
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0705 

2D COLOUR CLUSTER - WORKING WITH RADIO
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 920 984 D    HW: 1K8 920 984 D
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0609

Obviously prefer to use 3d clocks but need to sort sat nav issue out before spending money on something not working.....
Also if you fix ABS pump issue, with additional module ..... will it be removable, if I upgrade to newer car :)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on March 28, 2017, 03:31:08 pm
I can confirm ABS swap solves the problem. The issue lies in a way ABS module reports the way that is driven - in older units there is one frame only with average information, in newer there are separate frames for each wheel. DM requires second (more modern) solution to work properly otherwise it refreshes position periodically instead of constantly.

Solution we work on is add-on module that can be easily moved between cars. So far we have managed to have position constantly updated when driving straight but we are still facing some issues when driving in curves.

I will keep you updated.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on March 28, 2017, 03:43:37 pm
I can confirm ABS swap solves the problem.

You should of mention that to the people before you sold that units. Not after and trying to convince buyer that all works fine fella.

Thanks
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on March 28, 2017, 03:53:24 pm
It's not possible to test unit in every car. Why are you complaining? As you can see I warn users in time. So far we had only one customer who complained and as far as we were warned about the problem we started to work on solution.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on March 28, 2017, 03:57:03 pm
One not working unit is enough. Specially when you and your team mate said it will defo work. But its not. In fact - it not working in ALL range of MK5s. Doesn't matter 2004 or 2008.  Thats why I complain.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on March 28, 2017, 04:05:57 pm
Exactly - one is enough. If this is you who was unlucky to buy it maybe you could return to us the second motherboard we sent you?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on March 28, 2017, 04:18:37 pm
Yes it was me.
Ive already told your friend - its your fault so i cant see the reason why i should pay for postage. Also, when you will resolve this problem because for last 2 months you didn't even admit there is any. Only recently. And even then you didn't contacted me about solution or what so ever.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on March 28, 2017, 05:02:06 pm
It may be that we don't resolve it. We are doing our best but I cannot promise. If you are not satisfied you may return the unit and motherhood at our cost. Upon receipt we will refund the costs.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: olsen-72 on March 28, 2017, 10:22:41 pm
I already had a chat with your team mate. He said nope
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on March 29, 2017, 05:42:45 am
I believe it was before we made our investigation. I will switch now to PM and then we will update this thread when the case is closed.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: nico33 on April 04, 2017, 08:40:54 pm
Finally got my Discover Media that I ordered on http://vagtec.co.uk  :laugh:
(I was a bit anxious because they took 3-4 weeks to ship it and it was quite a lot of money, but everything was fine)

Installation was super easy. Plug and play. As they said
Big problem is that I lost my rear camera. Hopefully they'll find a solution for it...

FM, DAB, navigation, phone, music everything works perfect
Display is very sharp. Very nice resolution
Finally a touch screen that works ! As it should be. (my previous RNS510, then Z-E2026 were just sh*tty experiences)

I couldn't have App-Connect to work so far. Probably I miss the right cable. But I'm not sure it will be really useful for me. I doubt I will use CarPlay actually...

What I would like to have is Car-Net (control the car, a/c from the phone, send destinations for gps.. as I understand it)
But I doubt it will ever work, since it asks to register the car with its VIN, which is obviously not recognized as car-net compatible.
If anyone has any idea...

Anyway, I really like it so far. And thanks a lot to the guy at vagtec who is really helping

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ff23%2Fnschoeni%2FIMG_3479_zpsqp9exhhj.jpg&hash=853fea4b4aed03327e97f1bca2404355bd7d9e2d)

And my car is a VW Golf cabriolet 2014 MK6
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on May 03, 2017, 08:05:18 am
It may be that we don't resolve it. We are doing our best but I cannot promise. If you are not satisfied you may return the unit and motherhood at our cost. Upon receipt we will refund the costs.

Any news / update?
Would love this working in mk5......
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: pab567 on May 03, 2017, 08:12:49 am
Not yet...
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: bigwig74 on August 15, 2017, 08:07:16 am
Any news / update?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Christiank on September 06, 2017, 04:37:31 pm
@ady-uk (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11026)   I've got a fully working MIB2 in my MK5 Golf.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: nico33 on September 06, 2017, 04:59:21 pm
@Christiank (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=17442) did you manage to make car-net and app-connect work ?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on September 06, 2017, 06:33:51 pm
@ady-uk (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11026)   I've got a fully working MIB2 in my MK5 Golf.

I've got a solution to try but not got round to it yet.
It's on the shelf at moment and on the back burner.....
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Christiank on September 07, 2017, 01:42:47 pm
@Christiank (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=17442) did you manage to make car-net and app-connect work ?

Car-net will never work if you retrofit it to a that are old as ours. Mirrorlink, apply and all that works fine
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: dahui9 on January 25, 2018, 03:25:46 am
Just picked up a 2015 Jetta GLI SEL w/ RNS 315 (Nav) and Car-Net, would the discover media be plug and play on my car by chance if it doesn't have component protection? It seems like it would at this point but looking for further verification from people.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: mvb12 on February 13, 2018, 03:56:36 pm
can someone give me the link to the conversion harness to get this in a mk5 please.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Christiank on February 27, 2018, 07:37:25 pm
can someone give me the link to the conversion harness to get this in a mk5 please.

You'll need an adapter with a can blocker on it.. So an adapter like this isn't enough to make it function.
Here's an adapter cable if you still want one without can blocker.

http://www.carsystems.pl/quadlock-adapter-for-mqb-mib-head-units,id2352.html


@nico33 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=16023) :

Reason is that the MQB units are different from our mk5/6 platform stuff.

The solution will be to keep your Mk6 logo and swap out the camera for a mk7 or seat one, these will fit. Then ofc you'll mk7 wirering and controller for the camera.
I've done it a few times and it's not that hard to swap out.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Pashka on April 06, 2018, 12:40:49 pm
Have anyone link for loom + can blocker for mib2 unit?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Moore2017 on May 28, 2018, 04:42:55 am
These guys can supply and fit the discover media to your car
http://www.advanced-incar.co.uk
Also if you are on Facebook search for them and there is page with them offering the unit
I've also bought a highline reversing camera kit from them and they are great bunch of guys

scott :happy2: sorry newbie didn't no how to send u these pics
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fsmoore2010%2FDSC_0019_zpsydojna0c.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=4f55c958a8486168ff0c87775f10b55601affe63)[/URL  :driver: she still alive n going strong got told its been mapped but no Prof just wondering if you had put map on cheers  (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/smoore2010/media/DSC_0019_zpsydojna0c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: golfman on July 02, 2018, 10:10:03 am
These guys can supply and fit the discover media to your car
http://www.advanced-incar.co.uk
Also if you are on Facebook search for them and there is page with them offering the unit
I've also bought a highline reversing camera kit from them and they are great bunch of guys

scott :happy2: sorry newbie didn't no how to send u these pics
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fsmoore2010%2FDSC_0019_zpsydojna0c.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=4f55c958a8486168ff0c87775f10b55601affe63)[/URL  :driver: she still alive n going strong got told its been mapped but no Prof just wondering if you had put map on cheers
 (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/smoore2010/media/DSC_0019_zpsydojna0c.jpg.html)

Hey Hey now thats a quality car right there!!!!!!

still looks great...

i never got it mapped

scott :happy2:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Kingster31 on December 11, 2018, 10:30:27 pm
Hi guys
Last Saturday I  successfully retrofitted Discover Media unit into Ady's 2005 Golf MK5. Some of you probably see it already but there are the pics:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F9875500D-7D79-4230-A382-77D8D602E3DB.jpg&hash=7eebc09ee21f95b095b70dde9be743af6524b19a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F091CE304-1A9B-480C-9AC2-05F08E60C5F1.jpg&hash=ab5eb5690da3f04e43cd2b03ecd1826e68d2775f)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2FC175BD56-10D2-4641-A902-789B9DD319A7.jpg&hash=4853bb21503aa250983a2033d85486ac5644db8f)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F1BB48F02-CCDD-45C0-80D9-695A751B925C.jpg&hash=c0ead35b18fac14773f1b2cb67292d9ce90657e2)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2FEEDC48B2-ADAF-41F3-B9EE-AA4ED619BE4F.jpg&hash=72602f65dd38702412d75abc431ba79c91b3e9a2)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F3E6B68BC-B7C1-4CC5-ADAB-E25967EE519B.jpg&hash=23fe0ee4649bd1d14dc77ca491aaa0be90065ba5)

Unfortunately we didnt have time to play with it yet and just fitted it to see how it goes. All will be finished this Saturday so more pics to follow. All works fine on White or Colour clocks so far.

Regards


Newbie here so sorry if this doesn’t read right.

How did you manage to plug the harness into the media unit as noticed that the blink connectors are slightly different. I’ve been trying to find an adapter but not luck. Is there one that you used that you could link me too please?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on January 03, 2019, 01:26:06 pm
My car :D

You need adapter wiring harness which is supplied with radio.
Depending on age of your car, it's not always straight forward, I had to upgrade other things too.

Hi guys
Last Saturday I  successfully retrofitted Discover Media unit into Ady's 2005 Golf MK5. Some of you probably see it already but there are the pics:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F9875500D-7D79-4230-A382-77D8D602E3DB.jpg&hash=7eebc09ee21f95b095b70dde9be743af6524b19a)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F091CE304-1A9B-480C-9AC2-05F08E60C5F1.jpg&hash=ab5eb5690da3f04e43cd2b03ecd1826e68d2775f)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2FC175BD56-10D2-4641-A902-789B9DD319A7.jpg&hash=4853bb21503aa250983a2033d85486ac5644db8f)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F1BB48F02-CCDD-45C0-80D9-695A751B925C.jpg&hash=c0ead35b18fac14773f1b2cb67292d9ce90657e2)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2FEEDC48B2-ADAF-41F3-B9EE-AA4ED619BE4F.jpg&hash=72602f65dd38702412d75abc431ba79c91b3e9a2)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fdidlina77%2FRetrofit%2F3E6B68BC-B7C1-4CC5-ADAB-E25967EE519B.jpg&hash=23fe0ee4649bd1d14dc77ca491aaa0be90065ba5)

Unfortunately we didnt have time to play with it yet and just fitted it to see how it goes. All will be finished this Saturday so more pics to follow. All works fine on White or Colour clocks so far.

Regards


Newbie here so sorry if this doesn’t read right.

How did you manage to plug the harness into the media unit as noticed that the blink connectors are slightly different. I’ve been trying to find an adapter but not luck. Is there one that you used that you could link me too please?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: shoaybmakda on March 17, 2019, 12:29:02 am
sorry to dig this thread up again - was wondering if this unit would fit in a MK6? or does it have the same issues as the mk5? mines a 2009 GTD
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: ady-uk on March 17, 2019, 03:07:35 pm
Should be fine in a mk6
Still need one with cp disabled and other bits enabled, before you buy.

Usual disclaimer, if it doesn't work, don't have a go at me!  :party:
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: damfos on July 23, 2020, 04:00:19 pm
Hi Guys,
New here so go easy!
I am currently doing an install with one of these discover mib2 media units on a 2005 Vw Transporter which unfortunately doesn't have the luxury of upgrading the can gateway as Golfs as it's in the dash cluster, it ran an RNS510 perfectly but have noticed the map,navigation issue as described in this forum. I saw that a few of you have successfully installed these with the early Mk5's
If you don't mind me asking what was the conclusion with regards the lacking speed signals for the nav to work correctly? pab567 was working on a bolt on module solution, I am unable to find anything further to assist including the T5 forums?
Many Thanks
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Stupots on June 01, 2021, 07:32:34 am
Just adding to this thread because it appears to be the main/only one on this forum discussing Discover Media retrofitting.

In the last 18 months this became a whole lot easier, as rather than the original hardware modification and CAN blocker to DISABLE Component Protection (that could potentially get re-enabled) they have now developed a Software mod that completely REMOVES Component Protection.

It means that for some Mk5 owners and most Mk6 owners, these can be plug and play with just a £10 Quadlock adapter (with supported ABS controller and CAN gateway).

I fitted mine yesterday, and posted here
https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30806.msg1148479.html#msg1148479

But I’ll do a brand new post with lots more details of requirements and suppliers and link it here to help future owners.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: holepunch on July 04, 2021, 04:19:07 pm
I'd be really interested in your dedicated post on this upgrade as it's something I'd like to undertake to refresh my 06 GTI.

If you get chance could you cover, part numbers, coding issues, purchase price\location?

Thanks in advance.


Just adding to this thread because it appears to be the main/only one on this forum discussing Discover Media retrofitting.

In the last 18 months this became a whole lot easier, as rather than the original hardware modification and CAN blocker to DISABLE Component Protection (that could potentially get re-enabled) they have now developed a Software mod that completely REMOVES Component Protection.

It means that for some Mk5 owners and most Mk6 owners, these can be plug and play with just a £10 Quadlock adapter (with supported ABS controller and CAN gateway).

I fitted mine yesterday, and posted here
https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30806.msg1148479.html#msg1148479

But I’ll do a brand new post with lots more details of requirements and suppliers and link it here to help future owners.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Stupots on July 05, 2021, 09:48:19 pm
@holepunch (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=517) OK, I’ll try and get a post put up this week and link it from here.

I’m loving the Discover Media… Apple CarPlay (bringing Siri activated from steering wheel, Google maps and superior iPhone integration), the Radio logos, the speed of the interface, the album art… all a massive step up from an RNS 510 and is my favourite retrofit by far.
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Murderous972 on October 08, 2021, 05:34:45 pm
There is something new about the navigation issue?
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: DrG_GTi on November 18, 2021, 06:43:19 am
Any news on a dedicated post @Stupots

Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Stupots on November 18, 2021, 09:59:33 am
Ah, my apologies, I’ll dig through some pics and knock something up. 👍
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: DrG_GTi on November 18, 2021, 10:06:18 am
Ah, my apologies, I’ll dig through some pics and knock something up.


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Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: CraigP on August 13, 2022, 02:28:47 pm
Just adding to this thread because it appears to be the main/only one on this forum discussing Discover Media retrofitting.

In the last 18 months this became a whole lot easier, as rather than the original hardware modification and CAN blocker to DISABLE Component Protection (that could potentially get re-enabled) they have now developed a Software mod that completely REMOVES Component Protection.

It means that for some Mk5 owners and most Mk6 owners, these can be plug and play with just a £10 Quadlock adapter (with supported ABS controller and CAN gateway).

I fitted mine yesterday, and posted here
https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30806.msg1148479.html#msg1148479

But I’ll do a brand new post with lots more details of requirements and suppliers and link it here to help future owners.

Did you ever do a new post for this mate..? I know this is old now but hoping someone knows more about this retro fit….
Title: Re: Retrofit of Discover Media/ Composition Media head units to a Mk5/ Mk6 Golf
Post by: Senna on August 13, 2022, 03:55:36 pm
Just adding to this thread because it appears to be the main/only one on this forum discussing Discover Media retrofitting.

In the last 18 months this became a whole lot easier, as rather than the original hardware modification and CAN blocker to DISABLE Component Protection (that could potentially get re-enabled) they have now developed a Software mod that completely REMOVES Component Protection.

It means that for some Mk5 owners and most Mk6 owners, these can be plug and play with just a £10 Quadlock adapter (with supported ABS controller and CAN gateway).

I fitted mine yesterday, and posted here
https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30806.msg1148479.html#msg1148479

But I’ll do a brand new post with lots more details of requirements and suppliers and link it here to help future owners.

Did you ever do a new post for this mate..? I know this is old now but hoping someone knows more about this retro fit….
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