MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: wodder42 on April 08, 2014, 11:46:58 pm

Title: 140 DPF any issues???
Post by: wodder42 on April 08, 2014, 11:46:58 pm
GREY, 2006 Volkswagen Golf 2.0 GT TDI 5 door hatchback, 6 speed manual.just looking at cars, like a couple of tdi 140´s. One is an 06 plate, the other an 08...will the 06 have a dpf fitted and are they something to worry about (if i were to buy the 08 plate?)
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Post by: xjay1337 on April 08, 2014, 11:48:20 pm
shouldn't do.
just check yourself it's easy to see it's directly off back of turbo.
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Post by: rich83 on April 09, 2014, 12:15:29 am
Well DPF problems with the 2.0TDI PD engines are not uncommon.
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Post by: Matto on April 09, 2014, 12:16:57 am
I'm almost certain the 140's never had a DPF. Maybe the very late in the MK5 run but you should be fine with the years you have been looking at.
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Post by: JoeDarKa on April 09, 2014, 07:08:31 am
Pretty positive my 58 plate 140 doesnt have one
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Post by: xjay1337 on April 09, 2014, 09:07:41 am
I'm almost certain the 140's never had a DPF. Maybe the very late in the MK5 run but you should be fine with the years you have been looking at.
Exagwee
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Post by: DDM on April 09, 2014, 09:38:08 am
as above, the 140 mk5 version dosn't have the dpf mate. i've had 3 to date and still have one and i havn't seen one yet.
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Post by: paulw123 on April 09, 2014, 11:27:16 am
My o8 140 gt tdi sport has, I think it was an option, and as it was a company car I guess they felt green about having it. Road tax is only £135  :smiley:
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Post by: JoeDarKa on April 09, 2014, 03:48:05 pm
My o8 140 gt tdi sport has, I think it was an option, and as it was a company car I guess they felt green about having it. Road tax is only £135  :smiley:

So is mine with no dpf  :confused:
Title: Re: 140 DPF any issues???
Post by: Matto on April 09, 2014, 04:04:27 pm
My o8 140 gt tdi sport has, I think it was an option, and as it was a company car I guess they felt green about having it. Road tax is only £135  :smiley:

So is mine with no dpf  :confused:

As it was only a retrofit option there is a good chance alot of them didn't have them fitted.

http://www.partscats.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1731&ein=2008&f=625&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=0&grf=025376474&bf=09710&hgug=097&ug=97&parent_id=2847043 (http://www.partscats.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1731&ein=2008&f=625&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=0&grf=025376474&bf=09710&hgug=097&ug=97&parent_id=2847043)
Title: Re: 140 DPF any issues???
Post by: wodder42 on April 09, 2014, 09:23:18 pm
Thanks for all the replies...for those that have replied and have a dpf140....have you had any issues and would anyone know if they're easy to remove?
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Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on April 09, 2014, 11:12:36 pm
Thanks for all the replies...for those that have replied and have a dpf140....have you had any issues and would anyone know if they're easy to remove?
Illegal to remove.  Will fail an MoT.  :wink:
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Post by: marko on April 10, 2014, 12:48:44 am
Cutting open the dpf and taking out the contents and then rewelding it up is the job...nobody can tell you whats inside or not.... :laugh:
Title: Re: 140 DPF any issues???
Post by: paulw123 on April 10, 2014, 12:58:45 pm
My o8 140 gt tdi sport has, I think it was an option, and as it was a company car I guess they felt green about having it. Road tax is only £135  :smiley:

So is mine with no dpf  :confused:

As it was only a retrofit option there is a good chance alot of them didn't have them fitted.

http://www.partscats.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1731&ein=2008&f=625&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=0&grf=025376474&bf=09710&hgug=097&ug=97&parent_id=2847043 (http://www.partscats.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1731&ein=2008&f=625&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=0&grf=025376474&bf=09710&hgug=097&ug=97&parent_id=2847043)
thanx matto, good find that
so the dealer would have put this on after/before car was sold?
there are also 3 types of DPF?  good old vw  :rolleye: make it difficult or what. So I might have the wrong one if I do a lot of miles?

Currently...fingers crossed....no bad effects yet @ 110K miles, I do like to hold it on limiter for 30secs once a week to clear things out, not sure if it helps but I enjoy it  :party:
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Post by: Matto on April 11, 2014, 12:53:58 am
The link I posted was what is listed as a DPF retrofit kit which is listed for a few different engine codes including the BKD which yours is. It would have probably only been fitted if requested on the earlier one and then on the very late MK5 140's.
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Post by: paulw123 on April 11, 2014, 10:26:17 am
maybe just on the 08/58 gt tdi  sport model then.
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Post by: DDM on April 12, 2014, 09:53:38 am
does anyone know how the system regens then? or how do you do it manually, i've heard it's something like 2,500 rpm for so many miles,
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Post by: warby on April 12, 2014, 10:18:10 am
Dpf's are the devil! My sisters 170 has eaten another one in less than 12 months!


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Title: Re: 140 DPF any issues???
Post by: Matto on April 12, 2014, 10:54:14 pm
does anyone know how the system regens then? or how do you do it manually, i've heard it's something like 2,500 rpm for so many miles,

I believe when in the process of doing a regen, it picks up a different map loaded to the ecu. This adjusts fuelling parameters causing it to burn hotter. The extra heat is supposed to burn off the carbon that has built up in the DPF. The problem comes as it will never do a full regen, down to 0%. It will gradually leave more and more untill it is blocked.
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Post by: paulw123 on April 14, 2014, 03:00:54 pm
found this an interesting read

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?141943-DPF-info
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Post by: paulw123 on November 10, 2014, 05:55:50 pm
Done 123,465 miles last week, is that a record for a DPF on a MK5?
Read on vortex, vw DPF's are designed for 150K is that true?
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Post by: doylebros on November 10, 2014, 06:25:15 pm
This is VW take on it

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/glossary/diesel-particulate-filter
Title: Re: 140 DPF any issues???
Post by: Monkey10 on November 11, 2014, 07:28:51 am
How long a dpf lasts is down to how and where it's driven. My wife's 2011 Skoda fabia 1.6 common rail has done 155k and is still on original dpf with no problems. On the other hand I replaced dpf units on some cars at 3k due to driving style pottering around town etc. Removal and a map is a good option but now a mot failure.
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Post by: paulw123 on November 11, 2014, 10:20:37 am
"This process takes place at temperatures between 350 and 500 °C and can run continuously, particularly if you drive your car mainly on long runs. "

Does this mean its burning more fuel continuously on a long run, as its constantly burning stuff off?
I thought DPf's were ok for long runs?
Title: Re: 140 DPF any issues???
Post by: Shoduchi on November 11, 2014, 11:10:15 am
"This process takes place at temperatures between 350 and 500 °C and can run continuously, particularly if you drive your car mainly on long runs. "

Does this mean its burning more fuel continuously on a long run, as its constantly burning stuff off?
I thought DPf's were ok for long runs?
It means that if the exhaust gases reach those temperatures the regeneration process occurs passively, without extra fuel consumption. That usually happens while doing long drives. DPF love them and will last a lot more if you don't do short runs.
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Post by: paulw123 on November 11, 2014, 01:03:52 pm
oh right I see, that sounds a lot better thanks  :drinking:
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