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Title: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: Rigsby on September 10, 2019, 08:15:42 pm
Anyone tried the above?
Looks a steal at £100 for full subframe kit

Also what does the subframe noise sound like and when does it do it?
I gave a knock/click when turning at slow speed
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: colesey on September 11, 2019, 05:34:39 am
I’d be interested in views on this also as it seems decent value ie about the right price for a handful of aluminium collars / bolts. The VAG specialist garage I have previously used refuses to install them as he claimed there were fitting issues but may have a conflict of interests......
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: Alex Booth on September 11, 2019, 11:14:43 am
Buy cheap, buy twice  :wink:
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: Rigsby on September 11, 2019, 11:38:36 am
yeah be interesting to see if anyone has any first hand experience with them
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: colesey on September 11, 2019, 12:45:59 pm
Buy cheap, buy twice  :wink:

Buy from dealer, pay twice as much.
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: rich83 on September 11, 2019, 01:11:40 pm
I would want to know what they are made of, but for 100 quid its got to be worth a punt, especially if you can fit them yourself.
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: Rigsby on September 11, 2019, 01:17:58 pm
Yeah , I would be fitting them myself, and I’ll ask them what the collars are made of. What are the tyrolsport one made of?

I’m trying to trace a knock so not even sure it’s my subframe ?
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: rich83 on September 11, 2019, 01:22:19 pm
I think they are some sort of bronze alloy, which is very resistant to corrosion. My guess is the CM ones are anodised aluminium... hence the massive price difference
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: colesey on September 11, 2019, 01:27:50 pm
They look like anodised aluminium, same as the ECS collar kit. The large cost advantage is also due to them being a direct seller and not needing to add a dealer / reseller sales margin like Tyrol.
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: rich83 on September 11, 2019, 01:39:43 pm
954 Bronze is about 6 times the price of aluminium... roughly.
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: colesey on September 11, 2019, 01:55:55 pm
Yep, bronze is expensive. No argument there.  I guess my beef is more with Ollie. As a moderator, he should be impartial / neutral rather than making sales pitches / casting aspersions about brands he doesn’t sell.

If Ollie however has some specific knowledge to share into the CMS collars being sub-par, then I’m sure people would be interested in hearing. As I see things however, the CM kit at £100 for front and back seems a pretty attractive proposition.
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: Rigsby on September 11, 2019, 03:25:56 pm
Yep seller confirmed they are made of aluminium.
Surely still fit for purpose?
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: colesey on September 11, 2019, 05:08:41 pm
Aluminium will be fine, just like the subframe, and the ECS ones seem well reviewed. A smear of grease should keep corrosion at bay.
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: terrier on September 11, 2019, 07:12:39 pm
Anyone tried the above?
Looks a steal at £100 for full subframe kit

Also what does the subframe noise sound like and when does it do it?
I gave a knock/click when turning at slow speed
I Fitted about a month ago, creaking has gone. :pomppomp: :pomppomp: Make yourself aware of exactly where the bolts,bushes go before getting underneath.Give everything a light spray or lithium grease when fitting
 Removing the old bolts can be a pain I got my mates impact wrench and a full tin of penetration fluid (overnight soaking)
 I have the powerflex ALK fitted which you will need smaller 12mm washers for. This wont be an issue if you still have oem fitted.
bloody creaking and knocking annoyed me for weeks. Torque wrench is your friend for this one.
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: Rigsby on September 11, 2019, 08:52:00 pm
Anyone tried the above?
Looks a steal at £100 for full subframe kit

Also what does the subframe noise sound like and when does it do it?
I gave a knock/click when turning at slow speed
I Fitted about a month ago, creaking has gone. :pomppomp: :pomppomp: Make yourself aware of exactly where the bolts,bushes go before getting underneath.Give everything a light spray or lithium grease when fitting
 Removing the old bolts can be a pain I got my mates impact wrench and a full tin of penetration fluid (overnight soaking)
 I have the powerflex ALK fitted which you will need smaller 12mm washers for. This wont be an issue if you still have oem fitted.
bloody creaking and knocking annoyed me for weeks. Torque wrench is your friend for this one.

Sounds good, can you tell me symptoms of the subframe noise?
Title: Re: Creation motorsport dead set kit
Post by: terrier on September 11, 2019, 10:54:06 pm
Anyone tried the above?
Looks a steal at £100 for full subframe kit

Also what does the subframe noise sound like and when does it do it?
I gave a knock/click when turning at slow speed
I Fitted about a month ago, creaking has gone. :pomppomp: :pomppomp: Make yourself aware of exactly where the bolts,bushes go before getting underneath.Give everything a light spray or lithium grease when fitting
 Removing the old bolts can be a pain I got my mates impact wrench and a full tin of penetration fluid (overnight soaking)
 I have the powerflex ALK fitted which you will need smaller 12mm washers for. This wont be an issue if you still have oem fitted.
bloody creaking and knocking annoyed me for weeks. Torque wrench is your friend for this one.

Sounds good, can you tell me symptoms of the subframe noise?
Creaking and knocking from the front end. Noticed it most when reversing especially onto a low kerb Also noticed when  doing tight turns,parking etc. 8.50...shows the removal of the bolt that caused me most trouble  Access through the wishbone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgoMYbWpelY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgoMYbWpelY)