Post by: Carl_GTD on August 19, 2015, 01:22:27 pm
My front passenger door lock has stopped working and it's deadlocked shut, does anyone know a way of getting it open so I can get the lock changed? I've spent over an hour trying the unlock button and pulling the handles but it seems to have completely packed up. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Carl
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Post by: Washout on August 19, 2015, 08:21:22 pm
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52585.0.html
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 20, 2015, 01:51:31 pm
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Post by: Matthewsimone on August 20, 2015, 04:46:09 pm
Surely someone must know :sick:
Post by: Andy on August 20, 2015, 04:48:33 pm
Post by: Washout on August 20, 2015, 04:53:49 pm
Thanks for trying to help but that doesn't have an answer. It's not changing the lock that's the problem it's getting the door open. It's locked shut and will not open (I need a way of getting it open)
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In the how to he does describe what to do as his door was deadlocked. Apparently its a combination of hitting around the module area and unlocking at the same time. Its in the first paragraph if i remember correctly. :happy2:
Post by: doylebros on August 20, 2015, 05:51:41 pm
Apparantly this is a common issue on lots of vag carsI know how to open it but how do I know the poster isn't looking to know this for ill gotten gains???
Surely someone must know :sick:
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 20, 2015, 06:47:04 pm
Thanks for trying to help but that doesn't have an answer. It's not changing the lock that's the problem it's getting the door open. It's locked shut and will not open (I need a way of getting it open)
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In the how to he does describe what to do as his door was deadlocked. Apparently its a combination of hitting around the module area and unlocking at the same time. Its in the first paragraph if i remember correctly. :happy2:
I know he explains what he done but I've tried all of that on a number of occasions over the last 2 weeks and still no result.
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Post by: Carl_GTD on August 20, 2015, 06:48:27 pm
Apparantly this is a common issue on lots of vag carsI know how to open it but how do I know the poster isn't looking to know this for ill gotten gains???
Surely someone must know :sick:
Thanks for your help.
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Post by: Rado16v on August 20, 2015, 07:09:11 pm
If not, I was going to try this if you have a 5dr
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?10618-DIY-VW-Golf-MKV-MK5-door-locked-stuck-FIX!
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 20, 2015, 07:29:14 pm
On a serious note, thank you. Theres a chance I'll be able to get it open now as mines a 5 door.
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Post by: Matthewsimone on August 20, 2015, 08:18:20 pm
Apparantly this is a common issue on lots of vag carsI know how to open it but how do I know the poster isn't looking to know this for ill gotten gains???
Surely someone must know :sick:
Very doubtful mate
Surely for a start you woukd need to be inside the said car anyway!
Post by: doylebros on August 20, 2015, 08:19:18 pm
NoApparantly this is a common issue on lots of vag carsI know how to open it but how do I know the poster isn't looking to know this for ill gotten gains???
Surely someone must know :sick:
Very doubtful mate
Surely for a start you woukd need to be inside the said car anyway!
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 20, 2015, 09:05:32 pm
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Post by: doylebros on August 20, 2015, 09:08:04 pm
Post by: Matthewsimone on August 20, 2015, 09:27:17 pm
I don't really understand the point of you posting and saying you know how to do it and then not saying how. What was the actual point of you posting anything in the first place? I thought this was a place people come to look for help and answers on a subject we all have a common interest in.
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Exactly my thoughts :rolleye:
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 20, 2015, 09:30:57 pm
Pop into your local body shop, they'll show you on your vehicle as would I if you were in your vehicle!
I'm in my vehicle right now!
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Post by: TAPPY on August 20, 2015, 09:40:03 pm
I've had this at work a few times where the black plastic clip moves from its groves and doesn't allow the door to open inside or out.
Hope this helps
Post by: Matthewsimone on August 20, 2015, 09:46:19 pm
It's a long shot but if you pull the outer handle out as far as poss and look behind it you will see a black clip try use a small screwdriver to pop it off the handle and if you can do that it should open from the inside.
I've had this at work a few times where the black plastic clip moves from its groves and doesn't allow the door to open inside or out.
Hope this helps
Exactly what ive just read/seen on youtube etc
Sounds like its worth a try mate
Seems it will only work though if your module is actually clicking/unlocking when you press the fob if it's making no attempt to do anything it's doubtful it will work as car is still dead locked!
Post by: TAPPY on August 20, 2015, 09:52:22 pm
It's a long shot but if you pull the outer handle out as far as poss and look behind it you will see a black clip try use a small screwdriver to pop it off the handle and if you can do that it should open from the inside.
I've had this at work a few times where the black plastic clip moves from its groves and doesn't allow the door to open inside or out.
Hope this helps
Exactly what ive just read/seen on youtube etc
Sounds like its worth a try mate
Seems it will only work though if your module is actually clicking/unlocking when you press the fob if it's making no attempt to do anything it's doubtful it will work as car is still dead locked!
Yeah I forgot to say that about the module clicking. When my sister bought her seat Ibiza I managed to get it £200 cheaper and did this for her for free
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 20, 2015, 09:55:10 pm
And Matthew can you put a link up to the YouTube video please.
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Post by: TAPPY on August 20, 2015, 10:38:12 pm
The first part he says to so I know it's a mk4 but it's the same thing
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 21, 2015, 12:06:45 am
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Post by: Matthewsimone on August 21, 2015, 06:50:40 am
It's a long shot but if you pull the outer handle out as far as poss and look behind it you will see a black clip try use a small screwdriver to pop it off the handle and if you can do that it should open from the inside.
I've had this at work a few times where the black plastic clip moves from its groves and doesn't allow the door to open inside or out.
Hope this helps
Exactly what ive just read/seen on youtube etc
Sounds like its worth a try mate
Seems it will only work though if your module is actually clicking/unlocking when you press the fob if it's making no attempt to do anything it's doubtful it will work as car is still dead locked!
Yeah I forgot to say that about the module clicking. When my sister bought her seat Ibiza I managed to get it £200 cheaper and did this for her for free
Recently replaced my passenger door module as was making a horrible noise, £35 off ebay and took just over an hour to change it
I Thought it was a relatively simple job but my door was unlocked/open etc
When the bugger is locked shut is when the tears beging by sounds of it :sick:
Only other option Carl could be to tear the inner door card off and cut through the inner door skin to expose the latch etc
Bit drastic but struggling to see any alternative if it just won't unlock
Maybe remove passenger seat too for better access
:happy2:
Post by: Rado16v on August 21, 2015, 07:48:42 am
The door skin would be easier to replace than finding a matching door card I'd imagine.
As soon as I had this problem I bought the module which failed so I had it to hand to swap over for when the door opened. Buy new genuine.
Good luck pal.
Post by: Matthewsimone on August 21, 2015, 08:15:24 am
If the absolute worst came to the worst would you go in from the outside or inside?
The door skin would be easier to replace than finding a matching door card I'd imagine.
As soon as I had this problem I bought the module which failed so I had it to hand to swap over for when the door opened. Buy new genuine.
Good luck pal.
I bought non genuine from a chap on ebay after he was recomended by people on this forum
All seems spot on so far andat £35 its around £70 cheaper than Genuine item, genuine items are absolute garbage prone to failing anyway so how much worse can it get :laugh:
As for door skin id rather drive around without a door card temporary as finding a replacement door skin the exact right paint colour etc could be a nightmare and expensive if needed painting too :surprised:
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 21, 2015, 08:19:16 am
If the absolute worst came to the worst would you go in from the outside or inside?
The door skin would be easier to replace than finding a matching door card I'd imagine.
As soon as I had this problem I bought the module which failed so I had it to hand to swap over for when the door opened. Buy new genuine.
Good luck pal.
Well I think that's where I'm at now.
As the outer skin is what you remove to change the module thats the route I'll be taking. Going to buy an outer skin and get it painted to match the car, then I'll angle grind the old one open and swap it over.
I really didn't want to resort to this as I feel it's a bodge but as its the stupidest design ever by VW I can't see any other way.
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Post by: Rado16v on August 21, 2015, 08:46:33 am
Update 6/8/12 - Another method!
So my door locked again AND i couldnt get it open by the above and came up with this. Note it will only work on a 5 door car on only on the front doors (I did the passanger and assume the driver will be the same).
Open the rear door so you can access the front door. Remove the black plastic trim from the front door that covers the bolts (see outer door skin removel photos) I used and allen key to slide in behind the trim and pull it out then slid it up to the roof to get it out. I put a small scatch on my door but that was me being in a rush for no reason.
Once its off you can access the bolt that lets you remove the door handle (again refer to linked outer skin DIY).
Once you have the door handle off you should be able to use a special tool 157 (or a screw driver) to move the RED lever to the RIGHT to unlock the car. It maybe a bit hard to see/access because there is a white cover over the unit but its worth a try.
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 21, 2015, 09:15:08 am
They have also just told me that even if I cut the outer skin off it I won't be able to get into the car as it will remain deadlocked, but as far as I'm concerned if I cut the skin off I'll be able to get to everything and surely be able to get the door open
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Post by: Matthewsimone on August 21, 2015, 09:17:58 am
If the absolute worst came to the worst would you go in from the outside or inside?
The door skin would be easier to replace than finding a matching door card I'd imagine.
As soon as I had this problem I bought the module which failed so I had it to hand to swap over for when the door opened. Buy new genuine.
Good luck pal.
Well I think that's where I'm at now.
As the outer skin is what you remove to change the module thats the route I'll be taking. Going to buy an outer skin and get it painted to match the car, then I'll angle grind the old one open and swap it over.
I really didn't want to resort to this as I feel it's a bodge but as its the stupidest design ever by VW I can't see any other way.
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Honestly mate id tear the interior card off myself
Might even get it off without too much damage if your careful
Have a look on YouTube for videos of exact fixing points on the door cards
As said above did you not try the other method with it being 5 door? :happy2:
Post by: TAPPY on August 21, 2015, 10:28:46 am
Where are you located?
Also if you did get the skin off they say you still won't be able to get in as its deadlocked but you can always start ripping the lock apart to remove the deadlock and get in
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 21, 2015, 11:04:11 am
If you buy a new skin from vw/tps you will also need the brackets for the skin and bond them on which is a nightmare of a job!!!
Where are you located?
Also if you did get the skin off they say you still won't be able to get in as its deadlocked but you can always start ripping the lock apart to remove the deadlock and get in
Well I wouldn't buy a new one as there are loads on eBay for about 50 quid with the rest of a blank door.
I know a few painters so that's not a problem either.
And my thinking was exactly the same as yours. If I peel the outer skin off I'll have access to everything so should obviously be able to unlock the car
And I'm located in Essex.
Carl
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Post by: TAPPY on August 21, 2015, 12:21:13 pm
Oh that's a shame I live in reading berkshire and was going to say if you was this way we could meet up and I would help you out with it :smiley:
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Post by: Matthewsimone on August 21, 2015, 04:15:41 pm
I have a way to get the door open from the outside. Not something I'm willing to tell people how to do as you could then break into any Golf MK5 this way.
Why bother commenting then :P
Post by: vRSAlex on August 21, 2015, 06:03:39 pm
I have a way to get the door open from the outside. Not something I'm willing to tell people how to do as you could then break into any Golf MK5 this way.
Why bother commenting then :P
Book the car in and I will open the door :P back at ya! :drinking:
Post by: Matthewsimone on August 21, 2015, 06:09:35 pm
Could have just said that to the poor chap in your 1st post mate, I'd imagine he's quite stressed out with it now and has comehere for help/advice/recomendations etc :happy2:I have a way to get the door open from the outside. Not something I'm willing to tell people how to do as you could then break into any Golf MK5 this way.
Why bother commenting then :P
Book the car in and I will open the door :P back at ya! :drinking:
Post by: vRSAlex on August 21, 2015, 07:05:59 pm
Could have just said that to the poor chap in your 1st post mate, I'd imagine he's quite stressed out with it now and has comehere for help/advice/recomendations etc :happy2:I have a way to get the door open from the outside. Not something I'm willing to tell people how to do as you could then break into any Golf MK5 this way.
Why bother commenting then :P
Book the car in and I will open the door :P back at ya! :drinking:
I said I could open it.
Phone number is in the sig....
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 21, 2015, 10:27:37 pm
And yet another helpful person who knows how to do it but beats around the bush, if you know and want the business just say so.
Bedford ain't exactly local but I'll meet you halfway and you can do it. Tell me the cost and if your that confident I'll pay it. But if you don't manage it you will lose out on some fuel and time.
Post by: vRSAlex on August 21, 2015, 10:39:09 pm
I've tried everything regarding locks, keys, pulling handles etc and none of it works. It's deadlocked and won't budge.
And yet another helpful person who knows how to do it but beats around the bush, if you know and want the business just say so.
Bedford ain't exactly local but I'll meet you halfway and you can do it. Tell me the cost and if your that confident I'll pay it. But if you don't manage it you will lose out on some fuel and time.
I'm not willing to give out info on how to break into a MK5 from the outside.
Before i knew how to do it from the outside, I used to remove the door card from the inside, where you can pop the grommet for the internal cable, use a long screwdriver and hammer the release. You tend to just break one mount on the door card which can be glued back.
Hardly beating around the bush. Being the owner of the forum I can't let everyone know how to get into any Golf without a key.
Post by: Carl_GTD on August 21, 2015, 10:47:59 pm
I've tried everything regarding locks, keys, pulling handles etc and none of it works. It's deadlocked and won't budge.
And yet another helpful person who knows how to do it but beats around the bush, if you know and want the business just say so.
Bedford ain't exactly local but I'll meet you halfway and you can do it. Tell me the cost and if your that confident I'll pay it. But if you don't manage it you will lose out on some fuel and time.
I'm not willing to give out info on how to break into a MK5 from the outside.
Before i knew how to do it from the outside, I used to remove the door card from the inside, where you can pop the grommet for the internal cable, use a long screwdriver and hammer the release. You tend to just break one mount on the door card which can be glued back.
Hardly beating around the bush. Being the owner of the forum I can't let everyone know how to get into any Golf without a key.
I wouldn't expect you to give the information out, hence why I said I'd gladly pay you to do it.
But there's not much point in saying you can do it without explaining you own the forum and run a garage etc. so to me it was beating round the bush.
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Post by: vRSAlex on August 21, 2015, 11:17:38 pm
There are two ways I should be able to open the door. If I fail, then no charge. If I succeed then you pay me for the time it takes me to get it open?
You can supply a new lock, or I can supply and fit for you if you wish?