MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: GTIjames on December 19, 2008, 11:17:16 pm
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well santa came early for me too, been thinking about these for a long time and was torn between this or a fuel pump and intake but after a few hairy moments on wet and icy roads i thought i would best get my priorities straight so purchased these recently will hopefully get fitted next week and then some of the r32/leon brake set up if i can get a set of the chap advertising on here.
first of the usual whiteline anti lft kit, thanks for all reviews, secondly a nice new set of bilstein pss10, they look rather nice and will of course hopefully give a little review after fitted, hope you like..
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looks like a few of us are fitting the walk kit over the next few weeks :wink: and i am the one selling the brake kits :happy2:
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Great sounding plans! Where did you get the Bilsteins from,and how muchhhhhhhh?
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Balance motorsport supplied both the bilstein's and whiteline kit, rang them up very helpful and they emailed me a special price if I ordered that day, couldn't refuse :happy2:
will probably get them fitted by balance too, seem to know what he was talking about and said will do corner weighting at same time, anyone know anything about this read a few bits and sounds promising.
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they adjust the suspension so each corner has the weight it should have sitting on it, not always equal on all corners, some cars are better set-up with a front bias etc. But it is the best way to set-up coilovers rather than just matching ride-heights
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Balance motorsport supplied both the bilstein's and whiteline kit, rang them up very helpful and they emailed me a special price if I ordered that day, couldn't refuse :happy2:
will probably get them fitted by balance too, seem to know what he was talking about and said will do corner weighting at same time, anyone know anything about this read a few bits and sounds promising.
I got my suspension and walk kit from Balance, he bettered the best price i had found on the KW's without any bartering. I would recommend him no question. :happy2:
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Thanks James and TC!
I will defo look into Balance for when I get round to sorting out my suspension! :happy2:
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Not that Balance wouldn't make generous offers anyway, but methinks that most 'retailers' will make generous offers in order to achieve sales in the current economic climate. That's good for us guys!
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Those Bilsteins are superb - I have a set on my Ed30 along with WALK... excellent mods. Makes the standard car seem like a Mk4 GTI :driver:
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Those Bilsteins are superb - I have a set on my Ed30 along with WALK... excellent mods. Makes the standard car seem like a Mk4 GTI :driver:
Thats a Tad harse Illyan, mark 4 is a pile of poo from all angle's :smiley:
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cant wait to get the bad boys on the car :driver:
Ilyun what settings are you using for the dampeners - i'v been told around to be around 4/5 which is just about bearable :evilgrin: for every day driving.
im not too fussed about going super low, seen this set up on a s3 looks just what im looking for .
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3386085
looking to keep the performance as good as possible without been to harsh.
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That S3 is lowered just right imo. Best to be practical.
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cant wait to get the bad boys on the car :driver:
Ilyun what settings are you using for the dampeners - i'v been told around to be around 4/5 which is just about bearable :evilgrin: for every day driving.
im not too fussed about going super low, seen this set up on a s3 looks just what im looking for .
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3386085
looking to keep the performance as good as possible without been to harsh.
Illyun has mentioned that they are very firm and he hasn't figured out how to adjust the dampening yet. this tells me that it cant be that firm or adjustment would have been done by now, i think he hs done over a 1000 miles on them already. :smiley:
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the main reason i went for bilstein's was how easy it is to adjust them, you just turn the wheels to full lock crawl under the car and twist the blue dial as seen on the pics, 1 been softest setting and 10 been firmest setting, very simple no car-jacks and no removing tyres.
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looking good !!!!!!! :happy2:
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How much did these set you back?
Cheers John
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cost was just over 1k for the coilovers..
date for fitting has been set 29th december 9am
also getting a few other little things fitted at the same time:
walk kit
full set of vf engine mounts
possibly a dbilas flowmaster ko4 intake, heat shield and engine cover
:xmasrolleyes:
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cost was just over 1k for the coilovers..
date for fitting has been set 29th december 9am
also getting a few other little things fitted at the same time:
walk kit
full set of vf engine mounts
possibly a dbilas flowmaster ko4 intake, heat shield and engine cover
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Thats turning into a beast now James. :smiley:
Please excuse my stupidity, but what are the full benefits of the uprated engine mounts, i have not looked much into these. :innocent:
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this is what the manufacture tells us -
http://www.vag-tuner.com/extras/Newfolder/RegalVFenginemount-Mk5.pdf
basically stops the engine moving around so much under heavy acceleration giving you a better feel comes highly recommended from a few people who have had them fitted - i believe jonny doing that awesome project on this website is also using them..
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this is what the manufacture tells us -
http://www.vag-tuner.com/extras/Newfolder/RegalVFenginemount-Mk5.pdf
basically stops the engine moving around so much under heavy acceleration giving you a better feel comes highly recommended from a few people who have had them fitted - i believe jonny doing that awesome project on this website is also using them..
So its a bit like a suspension, handling mod really for extreme use ideal for your track days, let us know please the difference in the cabin vibration after fitting. :happy2:
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I've now driven a couple of Mk5 GTI's with VWR's engine mounts (their Fast Road version) and I didn't find either car uncomfortable at all. They also both had poly bushes throughout - Again, VWR's.
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well had all the bits fitted today, bilsten pss10, WALK kit, full set of vf engine mounts and a little extra one: dbilas flow master k04 intake, heatshield and engine cover.
and also thought i would run it on the their mustang dyno - results were 324bhp and a rather high 353 lbft torque, map looks nice and smooth up until the end but pleased, might improve a bit as car gets used to intake..
sorry for poor and few pics batt on iphone went, but the chap at regal took some so will get some better pics up soon
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sorry no decent pics yet of the car on the coils just got home and a bit dark, but you get a glimpse at the lowering on the above pic, is rather low bit more than i wished but looks good, drive home to london was good mix of m's and a roads - ride was firm but not harsh, have it on settings 5 front and rear, so mid way got to flung it round some corners and handled well
vf engine mounts are a big difference, car does vibrate more especially when idling in gear and in traffic i have found myself putting it in neutral more than before, but soon goes once your up and running - main difference is the sound and feel of the car - much more engine noise in the cabin but sounds good though :evilgrin: engine feels mounted very firmly and you get some good feedback through the steering wheel when thottling it.
overall car feels totally different from when i set of this morning, hard to explain but good.
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Good numbers :happy2:
I bet she's sounding great too!
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vf engine mounts are a big difference, car does vibrate more especially when idling in gear and in traffic i have found myself putting it in neutral more than before, but soon goes once your up and running - main difference is the sound and feel of the car - much more engine noise in the cabin but sounds good though :evilgrin: engine feels mounted very firmly and you get some good feedback through the steering wheel when thottling it.
....SOLD!! Except that I'll be going to VWR/RacingLine and using their 'Fast Road' engine mounts like their demo GTI has.
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oooooo very very nice list of selected mods
I would suggest a project thread :happy2:
How did you find the WALK ?
Engine mounts next for me too , although Im undecided on the version (VF / VWR etc) as yet.
You indicate theres a difference between in neutral and in gear (are you manual or DSG?) why is that ? wouldve expected none or little difference.
Nice power graph :happy2:, interesting that the superchips ED30 map doesnt have a blip @ 3500 that most other graphs show.
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I have dsg, when sat in traffic if you leave it in D you get some vibrations but in N they disappear..
It has also made gear changes in dsg alot more noticeable, especially when down shiffting in manual mode - the feedback you get makes it feel like a manual.
WALK kit seems to do what everyone else has stated - alot less wheel spin/traction issues when exiting corners with throttle on
only had the one long drive yesterday and back in work today so not had a good chance to test - but pleased so far
makes it feel like a racing car :driver: for those who like the nice smooth and comfy ride in the stock GTi then the engine mounts are probably not a good idea :wink: I have been told they do settle down after been run in though
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Nice results there mate. Good to see another one over 320bhp.. :happy2:
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Thanks James :happy2: with you have DSG I can kind of understand the in 'D' thing, thats why I asked.
You may wish to add your WALK comments (good or bad) to the product review section, all info very helpful.
cheers
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Good info, James :happy2:
It'll be interesting to know how the VF's compare with VWR's 'Fast Road' engine mounts.
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You'll most likely notice the engine mounts calm down once the weather warms up, they become just that little bit more compliant. :happy2:
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cant wait to get the bad boys on the car :driver:
Ilyun what settings are you using for the dampeners - i'v been told around to be around 4/5 which is just about bearable :evilgrin: for every day driving.
im not too fussed about going super low, seen this set up on a s3 looks just what im looking for .
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3386085
looking to keep the performance as good as possible without been to harsh.
Oopps sorry, didn't revisit this thread until now... I have them on 5.
Phil, you need to drive a car with these suspension mods and then you'ill realise how much of an improvment they make. It is more noticeable on a remapped car travelling at an 'enthusiastic' speed :evilgrin: The Revo Stage 1 remap exposed the shortcomings of the standard set-up straight away, which is why I had the suspension mods done the week after.
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the main reason i went for bilstein's was how easy it is to adjust them, you just turn the wheels to full lock crawl under the car and twist the blue dial as seen on the pics, 1 been softest setting and 10 been firmest setting, very simple no car-jacks and no removing tyres.
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Yeah but I didn't want to crawl under the car :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: In all seriousness though, I wasn't sure where the setting adjustment dial was exactly, it was raining continuously and I didn't want to be soaked and wriggling under my car in that weather.
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It has also made gear changes in dsg alot more noticeable, especially when down shiffting in manual mode - the feedback you get makes it feel like a manual.
I experience that too with my Stage 2 Revo remap... I'm a bit worried that its because the DSG is under a lot more stress than normal :surprised: