MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: john_o on December 21, 2009, 09:31:07 am
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ok , cant find it all in internet so Im sure one of you knowledgeable lot will know
I want to know how much difference in kg there is between the OE GTi setup and R32/S3 345mm setup.
I know its a lot of kg ( :surprised:) but want the numbers....
all good stuff to be added to a product review :wink:
thanks
John
so far I have
from here
http://vorsicht.org.hk/forums/showthread.php?t=3076
GTI
Brake Disc Diameter, mm : 312 (F), 286 (R)
Brake Disc Thickness, mm : 25 (F), 12 (R)
Caliper Piston Diameter, mm : single, 54 (F), single, 38 (R)
R32
Brake Disc Diameter, mm : 345 (F), 310 (R)
Brake Disc Thickness, mm : 30 (F), 22 (R)
Caliper Piston Diameter, mm : single, 57 (F), single, 41 (R)
and dunno if correct but for FRONTS
OEM Rotors 312mm (7.75 kg)
OEM Caliper & Carrier (5.5kg)
OEM Rotors 345mm (12kg)
OEM Caliper & carrier ( 9kg)
RR posted this about the REARS
Weight R32 Rotors, Calipers, Carriers & bolts (without pads) = 22.4 lbs / 10.2 kg
Weight OEM Rotors, Calipers, Carriers & bolts (without pads) = 17 lbs / 7.7 kg
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i'll try and weigh mine later :happy2:
disc 312mm 7,75kg
caliper and carrier 5,5kg
:pomppomp:
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what could also be handy is if you could get the weight of the standard control arms and the cupra/S3 aluminium control arms as they are used to offset the additon in weight of the heavier R32 brakes.
im ot help there. when i sold my full R32 fronts including everything other than carriers, it came to about 43kg for postage iirc
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cheers guys :happy2:
looks like approx 7.5kg per side (front) for going up to R32 which is HUGE !
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Re GTI oem FRONTS: Whole assembly of disc plus calipers = 15.10 Kg each. (10.6 Kg for AP Racing's kit).
I've never weighed any rears.
HTH :happy2:
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what could also be handy is if you could get the weight of the standard control arms and the cupra/S3 aluminium control arms as they are used to offset the additon in weight of the heavier R32 brakes.
im ot help there. when i sold my full R32 fronts including everything other than carriers, it came to about 43kg for postage iirc
Someone here linked to an audi forum where the weight difference were mentioned, i have it somewhere.
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found it,
the weights for lower control arms are...
GTI/Ed30 = 4100 grams each
S3 /cupra= 2290 grams each
would presume the TT lower arms are neigh on exactly the same
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found it,
the weights for lower control arms are...
GTI/Ed30 = 4100 grams each
S3 /cupra= 2290 grams each
would presume the TT lower arms are neigh on exactly the same
:happy2: :santa:
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Re GTI oem FRONTS: Whole assembly of disc plus calipers = 15.10 Kg each. (10.6 Kg for AP Racing's kit).
I've never weighed any rears.
HTH :happy2:
thanks RR but Im not sure now??
danishmkvgti has just quoted
disc 312mm 7,75kg
caliper and carrier 5,5kg
= 13.25kg total
youve said 15kg , does that include the CV joint and hub then??
little confused
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Re GTI oem FRONTS: Whole assembly of disc plus calipers = 15.10 Kg each. (10.6 Kg for AP Racing's kit).
I've never weighed any rears.
HTH :happy2:
thanks RR but Im not sure now??
danishmkvgti has just quoted
disc 312mm 7,75kg
caliper and carrier 5,5kg
= 13.25kg total
youve said 15kg , does that include the CV joint and hub then??
little confused
I'm confused to, but my dad watched me weigh the parts, i'll ask him tomorrow if i forgot the carrier weighing the caliper
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Compare RS3/TT-RS brakes to the S3 ones:
OEM:
stock 312mm - 14.5kg
TT-S 340mm - 20kg
S3/R32 345mm - 21.5kg
TT-RS 370mm - 17kg
RS4/RS6 365mm - 17kg
RS6 V10 390mm - 21.5kg
Non OEM:
VW-R 352x32mm - 12kg
K-Sport 356x32mm - 12.25kg
Brembo 355x32mm - 13kg
(caliper + rotor + pads + bolts + adapter)
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OEM:
stock 312mm - 14.5 kg
TT-S 340mm - 20 kg
S3/R32 345mm - 21.5 kg
TT-RS 370mm - 17 kg
RS4/RS6 365mm - 17 kg
RS6 V10 390mm - 21.5 kg
Non OEM:
AP Racing - 10.6 kg
VW-R 352x32mm - 12 kg
K-Sport 356x32mm - 12.25 kg
Brembo 355x32mm - 13 kg
(caliper + rotor + pads + bolts + adapter)
Jake, what size are the AP?
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AP Racing GTI: 10.6 kg - 330 x 28 mm
OEM GTI: 15.6 kg
Both measured on same scales at AP Racing in same session and witnessed by myself.
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:happy2:
OEM:
GTI 312mm - 15.6 kg
TT-S 340mm - 20 kg
S3/R32 345mm - 21.5 kg
TT-RS 370mm - 17 kg
RS4/RS6 365mm - 17 kg
RS6 V10 390mm - 21.5 kg
Non OEM:
AP Racing 330x28mm - 10.6 kg
VW-R 352x32mm - 12 kg
K-Sport 356x32mm - 12.25 kg
Brembo 355x32mm - 13 kg
(caliper + rotor + pads + bolts + adapter)
The 14.5 kg were from a TT-S form. Maybe the TT rotors weigh less . . .
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I know this thread is old now..... but im going upgrade brakes on my ed30.... going for audi s3 8v 2017 calipers with mk7 gti clubsport s 340mm x 30mm discs to save a bit of weight.... anyone run this set up.
Also what pads would one recommend for this application for fast road driving...and maybe a bit of tracking?
Cheers.