MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: irish_ram on September 14, 2015, 10:54:57 pm
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So on driving to Brands Hatch yesterday from Nottingham my Engine Management Light came on.
The car felt fine and was just the light so no display and warning on the display.
Looking like I will have to take it to the garage but did have no choice but to drive it back to Nottingham today and apart from the light it was fine and no other warnings or issues.
So was wondering would VCDS show anything up?
Also I topped up with Engine Oil the day before I drove down so wondering if this could have caused an issue as seems a bit of a coincidence?
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VCDS will tell you the specific Faculty causing the EML.
Si you hace a decat or sports exhaust?
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VCDS will tell you the specific Faculty causing the EML.
Si you hace a decat or sports exhaust?
So have done a scan nad quite a few errors but 2 for the Engine which I presume is causing the EML to come on. Gong to check on Rosstech but not got any ideas about these faults or the others that seem to have cropped up. I have cleared all DTC's and re-ran and they all came back.And I have a standard GTI exhaust with nothing modified on it
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20070101
Tuesday,15,September,2015,17:48:05:62939
Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ7W127424 Mileage: 114470km/71128miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 L HW: 8P0 907 115 B
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030
Revision: 5BH16--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8211388
Coding: 040300031C070060
Shop #: WSC 00717 210 83406
VCID: 2F6DF537BEE897663D9-807A
2 Faults Found:
012600 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
P3138 - 008 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 113405 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 19:16:21
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1205 /min
Load: 14.1 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 67.0°C
Temperature: 51.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 11.811 V
000017 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
P0011 - 004 - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 113685 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 11:23:33
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2823 /min
Load: 24.7 %
Speed: 114.0 km/h
Temperature: 79.0°C
Temperature: 17.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
Voltage: 14.351 V
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 02E 300 044 T HW: 02E 927 770 AE
Component: GSG DSG 070 1301
Revision: 04507000 Serial number: 00000610211355
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 264310139112D62ECEF-8073
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0004738
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 73E539471240F386991-8026
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BJ HW: 1K0 907 044 BJ
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0909
Revision: 00090016 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 70EF364B6356C89E643-8025
1 Fault Found:
00229 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
002 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: None
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
Component: Bordnetz-SG H52 2002
Revision: 00H52000 Serial number: 00000005961051
Coding: E78F8F2700041500471400001400000000087F075C0001
Shop #: WSC 12345 785 00200
VCID: 6CD7223B4F7E2C7E58B-8039
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E
Component: Wischer 151106 020 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 12345
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AB
Component: RLS 201106 020 0105
Coding: 00208933
Shop #: WSC 12345
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: None
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD0VZ57+
Coding: 0013112
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3D71DF7F648475F6BF5-8068
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME145B45034
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME145B4724A
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME18643B01B
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME1A13147DI
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
Component: J0527 636 0070
Coding: 0012112
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 8109E38FD8FC51161BD-80D4
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K6 920 973 HW: 1K6 920 973
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8211388
Coding: 0005403
Shop #: WSC 65536 645 12345
VCID: F0EFB64BE356489EE43-80A5
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H04 0020
Revision: H04 02 Serial number: 201106F1001388
Coding: 7F0F034807000001
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 2F6DF537BEE897663D9-807A
1 Fault Found:
01300 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 184
Mileage: 114478 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:44:26
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Address 25: Immobilizer
Cannot be reached
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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0984
Coding: 0000564
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 387FCE6B4BA650DE6C3-806D
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 1K2 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 3561C75F5CB4ADB6775-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0203
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 999002085103087F2D048F0F7008DAC690B800
Shop #: WSC 01206 210 105861
VCID: 8305E987C2E04306091-80D6
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178
Component: Neigungssensor 001 0101
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178
Component: Innenraumueberw.001 0101
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0984
Coding: 0000564
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3979CB6F70AC49D693D-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 1T0 907 357
Component: Dynamische LWR 0003
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: F4E7BA5B974E74BE00B-80A1
1 Fault Found:
01539 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
005 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
Component: Radio BVX 016 0023
Coding: 0040402
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3365F94752C0B386591-8066
No fault code found.
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So for the important engine ones as not concentrating on the others for now it suggests the below. Anyone be able to guide me as to what, where and how I would check these things as have not got a clue really what to check
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16395/P0011/000017
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/19594/P3138/012600
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Not sure if it has anything to do with it but on inspecting my Engine bay I noticed the below connections looking dodgy. However on the pic where they are marked out this was a pic taken a few weeks ago and no errors then so not sure if connected.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fpp78%2FSuper_Ram%2FFaults.png&hash=72c85aa3cf45f0d81de88371777bb0763c14ea05)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fpp78%2FSuper_Ram%2FIMG_2772.jpg&hash=cf73655cfef26e1a7b818ce0ba5999918701b973)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fpp78%2FSuper_Ram%2FIMG_2774.jpg&hash=1deaf9c8056510e1bf8396ccf12ef004b4fb628c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fpp78%2FSuper_Ram%2FIMG_2776.jpg&hash=cb5fbbda7b368fde6e91c74ba9b6f5071ffb4f78)
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So after a bit of searching I found that the pic I have stuck up with the damaged connection on the right of engine is the N205 Valve if not mistaken.
So my car did or does not have any symptoms that I can tell since the the EML light came on so it is maybe a case this connection is the issue with the damage. If so can I run the car until I get it fixed or will this start causing major issues?
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Yep looks like the N205 is to blame for the first one, that's second circled is just conduit for the coil pack harness.
Have you followed the Ross-tech and tried a basic setting?
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Strange for that type of damage to just happen - have you had the vehicle in for repair work,timing chain perhaps?
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Yep looks like the N205 is to blame for the first one, that's second circled is just conduit for the coil pack harness.
Have you followed the Ross-tech and tried a basic setting?
That connector looks nasty. But could it cause all those errors?
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Yep looks like the N205 is to blame for the first one, that's second circled is just conduit for the coil pack harness.
Have you followed the Ross-tech and tried a basic setting?
Cheers, any idea on how much a replacement valve would cost and is it easy to fit.
I am going to try the basic settings now and see what it says
The only thing I can think is it may have been my fault as I cut my engine cover to fit my new CAI and I am wondering if somehow when I fitted back it cut against it but not sure.
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I'm no expert be any means :laugh: thing is the two metal pins are still intact but not sure how secure the connect will be to hold in place
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I'm no expert be any means :laugh: thing is the two metal pins are still intact but not sure how secure the connect will be to hold in place
So reconnected the N205 valve as best I could but the pins still in contact but will need a new valve unless I can work my magic with some glue as it is the plastic that's damaged but pins are fine
Also ran the basic settings but it said wait until field 4 says "ADP. O.K" however mine stayed at saying "TXT 000 002".
However on doing both the above, cleaning codes and scanning the car again the Engine faults were gone and EML not there anymore :laugh:
So seems to have sorted it until I can replace the N205 Valve. Is this valve important as in I probably wont be able to replace for a couple of weeks and if connection does totally go will it cause any problems?
Now I just got to look into the other less serious problems :confused:
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Well at least your making some progress.
The n205 is easy to change, just two torx screw holding it in. Part number for it is 06f 109 257 c
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It's changes the cam shaft timing to aid starting and many others issues eg EGR but short term it will be ok to run with it disconnected.
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It's changes the cam shaft timing to aid starting and many others issues eg EGR but short term it will be ok to run with it disconnected.
Nice one,
At the moment the connection is staying as EML light off however I imagine with the car driving and go over bumps etc it may come loose. Seems they are quite costly to replace and the connectors are fine but the plastic covering is damaged. So I reckon I could easily fix this as a temp measure for now
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So may need to get a replacement any way but first I a trying to work out if the fault I have is a damaged sensor or the actual N205 Valve.
Since I had the fault if I unplug and re-attach the damaged connection and then run the basic setting via VCDS it resets the EML and does not comeback on for a while but eventually after about a day will come back on. It is usually after driving so not sure if driving around is knocking the damaged connection or if the car is reporting an actual fault and it only goes away because I am resetting the connection etc.
So 2 determine if it is just the connector which I presume is the sensor or an actual faulty valve can anyone tell me what sort of issue/symptoms I would suffer if the valve itself was faulty as opposed to just a sensor.
For background I have been resetting it over the last week no problem and when it does come on I am driving the car home from work for about 30 miles a different speeds and have no obvious issues.
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Anyone :sad1: