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Title: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 09:00:15 am
Likely not everyone's taste but I am thinking about swapping out my factory fitted Xenon's with the below but noticed the line that says No for vehicles with Xenon.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEADLIGHT-DAYTIME-ANGEL-EYE-DARK-FOR-VW-GOLF-V-5-NEW-LAMPS-/371032381712?hash=item566340d910

Am I being stupid but if fitting these I would not have the xenon's anymore or is it referring to the wiring that is going to be different as I have xenon's so far from plug and play for insance
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: white91 on September 30, 2015, 09:11:32 am
I'd be happy to take the xenons off your hands


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Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: hlcst on September 30, 2015, 09:51:29 am
Likely not everyone's taste but I am thinking about swapping out my factory fitted Xenon's with the below but noticed the line that says No for vehicles with Xenon.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEADLIGHT-DAYTIME-ANGEL-EYE-DARK-FOR-VW-GOLF-V-5-NEW-LAMPS-/371032381712?hash=item566340d910

Am I being stupid but if fitting these I would not have the xenon's anymore or is it referring to the wiring that is going to be different as I have xenon's so far from plug and play for insance

A young lad has these on his tdi at a local meet and they are terrible. Don't waste your money they look cheap, they don't fit properly and it looks like his car has been in a front end smash then put back together by a Halfrauds shelf stacker
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 09:58:25 am
Likely not everyone's taste but I am thinking about swapping out my factory fitted Xenon's with the below but noticed the line that says No for vehicles with Xenon.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEADLIGHT-DAYTIME-ANGEL-EYE-DARK-FOR-VW-GOLF-V-5-NEW-LAMPS-/371032381712?hash=item566340d910

Am I being stupid but if fitting these I would not have the xenon's anymore or is it referring to the wiring that is going to be different as I have xenon's so far from plug and play for insance

A young lad has these on his tdi at a local meet and they are terrible. Don't waste your money they look cheap, they don't fit properly and it looks like his car has been in a front end smash then put back together by a Halfrauds shelf stacker

Not good if the case, I believe these are similar to the ones on another guys car on here and they look smart though
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 10:03:14 am
I'd be happy to take the xenons off your hands


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Could do a deal, what sort of price are you looking at.

Would need to sort my new lights if I was purchasing the ones in the link if they are okay though
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: Shoduchi on September 30, 2015, 10:27:30 am
Big mistake if you do it but it's your car... At least you'll make someone who recognizes quality happy by selling the headlights.
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: hlcst on September 30, 2015, 10:30:13 am
Likely not everyone's taste but I am thinking about swapping out my factory fitted Xenon's with the below but noticed the line that says No for vehicles with Xenon.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEADLIGHT-DAYTIME-ANGEL-EYE-DARK-FOR-VW-GOLF-V-5-NEW-LAMPS-/371032381712?hash=item566340d910

Am I being stupid but if fitting these I would not have the xenon's anymore or is it referring to the wiring that is going to be different as I have xenon's so far from plug and play for insance

A young lad has these on his tdi at a local meet and they are terrible. Don't waste your money they look cheap, they don't fit properly and it looks like his car has been in a front end smash then put back together by a Halfrauds shelf stacker

Not good if the case, I believe these are similar to the ones on another guys car on here and they look smart though

I remember looking at that car, I could be wrong but I think it more like these the other member has http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk5-11-2003-2009-Headlamp-Headlight-Angel-Eyes-Style-Black-No-Motor-Pair-/121756176645?hash=item1c593bd105
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: white91 on September 30, 2015, 10:40:14 am

I'd be happy to take the xenons off your hands


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Could do a deal, what sort of price are you looking at.

Would need to sort my new lights if I was purchasing the ones in the link if they are okay though

I don't mind waiting, if you decide to go ahead, price wise I'm not sure


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Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 10:53:27 am
Big mistake if you do it but it's your car... At least you'll make someone who recognizes quality happy by selling the headlights.

Quality is different to different people mate and as you say it is my car and I have my reasons so no need for subtle digs is there now  :wink:
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 10:59:54 am
Likely not everyone's taste but I am thinking about swapping out my factory fitted Xenon's with the below but noticed the line that says No for vehicles with Xenon.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEADLIGHT-DAYTIME-ANGEL-EYE-DARK-FOR-VW-GOLF-V-5-NEW-LAMPS-/371032381712?hash=item566340d910

Am I being stupid but if fitting these I would not have the xenon's anymore or is it referring to the wiring that is going to be different as I have xenon's so far from plug and play for insance

A young lad has these on his tdi at a local meet and they are terrible. Don't waste your money they look cheap, they don't fit properly and it looks like his car has been in a front end smash then put back together by a Halfrauds shelf stacker

Not good if the case, I believe these are similar to the ones on another guys car on here and they look smart though

I remember looking at that car, I could be wrong but I think it more like these the other member has http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk5-11-2003-2009-Headlamp-Headlight-Angel-Eyes-Style-Black-No-Motor-Pair-/121756176645?hash=item1c593bd105

I did see them but saw them in action and don't like the position of the lights at the top

The member I am talking about is Hurdy and just saw his build thread and it was the below he got

http://www.auto-performance-parts.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=VW40L24S
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 11:51:48 am

I'd be happy to take the xenons off your hands


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Could do a deal, what sort of price are you looking at.

Would need to sort my new lights if I was purchasing the ones in the link if they are okay though

I don't mind waiting, if you decide to go ahead, price wise I'm not sure


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PM sent  :happy2:
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: xjay1337 on September 30, 2015, 12:09:00 pm
Firstly, those headlights look terrible.
Not being harsh, just being honest.
To say they are "wank" would be an understatement.

Secondly, as your car has factory xenons you do not have the in-car headlight adjustment. If you change from Xenons (automatically adjusting) then you will not be able to adjust your headlights as appropriate based on the load of the car.

Thirdly, factory OEM Xenon-equipped cars come with 12-pin headlight plugs. All of these rubbish aftermarket headlights come equipped with 10-pin plugs.
Meaning that they won't fit.

Have fun.
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 12:37:03 pm
Firstly, those headlights look terrible.
Not being harsh, just being honest.
To say they are "wank" would be an understatement.

Secondly, as your car has factory xenons you do not have the in-car headlight adjustment. If you change from Xenons (automatically adjusting) then you will not be able to adjust your headlights as appropriate based on the load of the car.

Thirdly, factory OEM Xenon-equipped cars come with 12-pin headlight plugs. All of these rubbish aftermarket headlights come equipped with 10-pin plugs.
Meaning that they won't fit.

Have fun.

Yeah I thought there would be an issue with swapping so may have a think before going ahead  :happy2:
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 12:43:20 pm
Firstly, those headlights look terrible.
Not being harsh, just being honest.
To say they are "wank" would be an understatement.

Secondly, as your car has factory xenons you do not have the in-car headlight adjustment. If you change from Xenons (automatically adjusting) then you will not be able to adjust your headlights as appropriate based on the load of the car.

Thirdly, factory OEM Xenon-equipped cars come with 12-pin headlight plugs. All of these rubbish aftermarket headlights come equipped with 10-pin plugs.
Meaning that they won't fit.

Have fun.

So putting the Angel Eyes aside if at any point I were to have to swap out the Xenons for standard GTI lights say the 2 issues I would face are adjustment and the 10 pin connection instead of 12. However there must be options for this like Adapters etc and manual adjustment
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: Andy on September 30, 2015, 05:12:47 pm
Why change the xenons  :chicken:
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: dazza on September 30, 2015, 05:26:51 pm
Why change the xenons  :chicken:


:drool:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fab31%2FJGI_2009%2FP1000655.jpg&hash=4ddd970a4fccc5650928beacdbef4534f5cda5bf)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fab31%2FJGI_2009%2FP10006592.jpg&hash=700a45c56e969e9fb6535c4ac925f53b07982a6b)
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 05:36:33 pm
Why change the xenons  :chicken:


:drool:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fab31%2FJGI_2009%2FP1000655.jpg&hash=4ddd970a4fccc5650928beacdbef4534f5cda5bf)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fab31%2FJGI_2009%2FP10006592.jpg&hash=700a45c56e969e9fb6535c4ac925f53b07982a6b)

What lights are these, look nice
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: Shoduchi on September 30, 2015, 05:44:15 pm
Why change the xenons  :chicken:


:drool:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fab31%2FJGI_2009%2FP1000655.jpg&hash=4ddd970a4fccc5650928beacdbef4534f5cda5bf)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fab31%2FJGI_2009%2FP10006592.jpg&hash=700a45c56e969e9fb6535c4ac925f53b07982a6b)
No aftermarket headlight will have the same lighting capacity of the Bosch/AL headlights due to the quality of their materials. Even the Bosch/AL headlights could have better lenses. For me it's a downgrade. Aesthetics are subjective so no real point discussing them...
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: dazza on September 30, 2015, 06:00:34 pm
What lights are these, look nice
http://www.parts4euro.com/mk5-gti-golf-rabbit-r32-headlights-c-1341_35_103.html
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: D_Philli_82 on September 30, 2015, 08:13:05 pm

Quote from: dazza link=topic=101272.msg991464#msg991

:drool:

[img width=786 height=589
http://daz.co/media/ab31/JGI_2009/P1000655.jpg[/img]

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fab31%2FJGI_2009%2FP10006592.jpg&hash=700a45c56e969e9fb6535c4ac925f53b07982a6b)

Love Zenons but these look decent tbf...and you'd probably be the only one to have them..!! Wouldn't go for any of the other styles though....


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Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 08:19:10 pm

Quote from: dazza link=topic=101272.msg991464#msg991

:drool:

[img width=786 height=589
http://daz.co/media/ab31/JGI_2009/P1000655.jpg[/img]

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fab31%2FJGI_2009%2FP10006592.jpg&hash=700a45c56e969e9fb6535c4ac925f53b07982a6b)

Love Zenons but these look decent tbf...and you'd probably be the only one to have them..!! Wouldn't go for any of the other styles though....


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Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: Lyons on September 30, 2015, 09:37:37 pm
Not sure if this thread is a wind up or not?!
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: Washout on September 30, 2015, 10:28:32 pm
Man, maybe he doesn't like xenons not everyone has to like them. And I'm not sure the op originally asked peeps opinions on the wankness of the angel eyes, but asked about fitment.
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: irish_ram on September 30, 2015, 10:33:40 pm
Man, maybe he doesn't like xenons not everyone has to like them. And I'm not sure the op originally asked peeps opinions on the wankness of the angel eyes, but asked about fitment.

Took the words out of my mouth but I could not be bothered.

I always say each to their own even if my own is apparently wank angel eyes  :confused:

I do like the xenons but no harm in looking at other options and may make a bit of a Profit so I can invest in some more wank mods  :happy2:
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: FJ1000 on September 30, 2015, 10:59:39 pm
Can mk5 xenons be split and painted internally?

E.g. Had this done on my other car

Before

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F09%2F30%2F0d4bb41acdf8640ea013671001b3982e.jpg&hash=c7af8e5d8ddf0b70e6b86740020bd1bf886a6312)

After

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F09%2F30%2F9a8351e89894edf675ae21efc4fece7d.jpg&hash=2c482b078e3e64b6b2fafface08687bf3fdefc31)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F09%2F30%2F001b4f3706e8f3a4231fb7395501a7c6.jpg&hash=740d5005beeef3c5045070618ab7a1b0fc4136cd)


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Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: Shoduchi on October 01, 2015, 12:22:12 am
Yes, but it requires patience and a bit of skill.
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: magicgilbert on October 01, 2015, 07:10:29 am
Why would you change xenons  :fighting:
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: xjay1337 on October 01, 2015, 10:20:15 am
I've NEVER had a better set of headlights than OEM Mk5 Xenons.
They light up the road like NOTHING. Full open shutter xenon with seperate halogen high beams, bloody illuminates for miles.

Each to their own but it's a LOT of hassle to ochange from OEM xenons to non stock headlights.
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: martin@gti.co.uk on October 01, 2015, 08:24:24 pm
try to put ZKW-R opticaly clear lens in them and its even better, max out. with set of Osram CBI you can compare to porsche output. But of course your limited with 10 year old technology, no adaptive movement towards sides, suffers the most in right hand corners. Also the beam width isnt the best, but awesome high beams. But dont be silly changing your oem xenons for a lights with silly led strip that isnt even bright enough, you can get rid of fogs and use round DRL looks 100times better
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: xjay1337 on October 02, 2015, 09:54:18 am
My Mk5 Xenons were better than my Scirocco's headlights even with Osram uprated xenon bulbs and also better than my dads octavia which has AFL xenons, although the afl action is pretty neat, unless you are on a completely unlit back road it's a bit of a gimmick
Title: Re: Swapping out Xenons
Post by: FJ1000 on October 02, 2015, 12:00:05 pm
I found the Mk5 xenons on mine quite dull with OEM bulbs. Swapped out for some new 6000K morimoto bulbs, and much brighter and crisper now!  :happy2:

The clear lens mod mentioned above makes a difference too, not had it done on the golf, but on the other car. This pitch black road used to make me flip high beams on...

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3802/20481012995_855f718b2c_c.jpg)

I'm one for enhancing the OEM xenons rather than swapping them, but I can understand wating something different.