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Title: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: fish on October 19, 2015, 09:50:33 pm
Hi
What do you chaps think , my 2007 GTI is coming up to 4 years since it had  a cambelt and water pump changed, mileage was 50k.  But it has only done 27k in the four years since. Would you still get it done on the four year cycle or is it daft after just 27k?

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Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: PT82 on October 19, 2015, 09:58:39 pm
I would personally but your call. I can see where you're coming from.
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: dansmith180 on October 19, 2015, 10:05:46 pm
I would change it, my last one only lasted 2 1/2 years and about 29k. I knew it was going because it squeaked but by the time I got it done it didn't look too healthy  :scared:. Considering it has to be done at some point and it could be very expensive if it goes wrong.
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Dave J on October 19, 2015, 10:09:47 pm
For the cost, I'd change it. I know what you mean about low mileage in the time, but you'd be more gutted if the belt went and stuffed the engine...
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: skard on October 19, 2015, 10:10:55 pm
It has still been under tension and suffered from degradation after four years.
I did my ED30 one for the second time on time, even although it was under the mileage by a long way
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: loop on October 20, 2015, 06:00:38 am
Personally I wouldn't bother, maybe get it inspected as part of the next service then take it from there depending on its condition.


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Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Dan_FR on October 20, 2015, 07:30:46 am
When mine is due it will likely have covered less mileage than yours has, and i will still be getting it done.
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: richtung on October 20, 2015, 08:13:15 am
Definitely get it done - as already mentioned, the rubber will be degrading in that 4 year window.

Why bother keeping up full service history only to skimp on an important aspect like having the cambelt changed on time?

If you were to sell your car further down the line, a missed cambelt change would be enough to put me off if i was a potential buyer - regardless of a full service history.

Hope this helps

Rich
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: fish on October 20, 2015, 08:51:39 am
Thanks for your thoughts.

Yeah I think I will probably get it done.  Must admit I am a 'preventative maintenance ' kind of person. Just got a price from my local main dealer  (Norwich ) Inc water pump £449. Think I will be using my usual specialist as before!

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Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: loop on October 20, 2015, 09:14:59 am
I've been researching this myself (see "what did you and your mkV do today thread) and have found some VW dealers charge £349 for cambelt and water pump so you may have room for negotiation.


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Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: pudding on October 20, 2015, 09:50:34 am
It has still been under tension and suffered from degradation after four years.
I did my ED30 one for the second time on time, even although it was under the mileage by a long way

Indeed.  Rubber is a perishable item, hence the "4 years OR XXXXX miles" schedule.  Same with tyres and suspension bushes.  A car that's stood for 10 years on original bushes and tyres is in no better state than a car that's driven for 10 years.
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: GTIEagles on October 20, 2015, 10:12:26 am
Audi's policy is every 5 years/75K on the exact same engine. So I'm using that as my reference!
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Shoduchi on October 20, 2015, 11:46:32 am
My Ed. 30 has 35k miles and 6 years, so I've decided to change the cambelt eventhough the manual doesn't states any required time, just mileage. I got the kit from VW and the box stated the cambelt had an expiration date of 10/2017. If it has an expiration date in the box, don't you agree it will also expire in the car?
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Dan_FR on October 20, 2015, 12:01:45 pm
The metal cam followers also have an expiry date, I wouldn't read too much in to it  :signLOL:
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Shoduchi on October 20, 2015, 12:09:49 pm
The metal cam followers also have an expiry date, I wouldn't read too much in to it  :signLOL:
Yeah, metal stuff I agree 100%. Rubber parts, I wouldn't disregard. Tyres also have 5 years of expiration date. :smiley:
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: pudding on October 20, 2015, 12:20:33 pm
My Ed. 30 has 35k miles and 6 years, so I've decided to change the cambelt eventhough the manual doesn't states any required time, just mileage. I got the kit from VW and the box stated the cambelt had an expiration date of 10/2017. If it has an expiration date in the box, don't you agree it will also expire in the car?

Even more so in the car as it's constantly subjected to heat cycling, which hardens it over time, but I'd say that one would be OK to use tbh.  Still got 2 years on it before it 'goes off' and belts generally last longer than specified.  It's just one of those mitigating risk things.
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Shoduchi on October 20, 2015, 12:34:13 pm
My Ed. 30 has 35k miles and 6 years, so I've decided to change the cambelt eventhough the manual doesn't states any required time, just mileage. I got the kit from VW and the box stated the cambelt had an expiration date of 10/2017. If it has an expiration date in the box, don't you agree it will also expire in the car?

Even more so in the car as it's constantly subjected to heat cycling, which hardens it over time, but I'd say that one would be OK to use tbh.  Still got 2 years on it before it 'goes off' and belts generally last longer than specified.  It's just one of those mitigating risk things.
Yeah, I'll change it in 4 years since I'll have the car tuned to stage 2+. If I left it with the stock map I'd only change it in 5. I don't preview doing a lot of miles in that period, just leisure drives and if all go as planned 2-3 track days per year.
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Fletch..gti on October 20, 2015, 05:37:34 pm
My golf 06 as 27000 on the clock . And I do just two and a half thousand a year at best . I left my belt for longer than I should  but it was always on my mind about it . Just had it done at vow parkway £349 including water pump . Feel loads better now it's done .
I waited longer than I should but only because I do very little mileage . Will not leave it again
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: loop on October 20, 2015, 06:20:26 pm
My VW handbook says the Cambelt is good for 120,000 miles!
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: StephenED30 on October 20, 2015, 06:23:07 pm
Had cam belt and water pump done today £349 at VW, at stage 1 with APR map. Also DSG oil change £179 so both done for the second time as coming up to 8 years old at the end of this month. I just think of it as an insurance policy to give me piece of mind. I'm at 45568 miles so the DSG oil didn't need doing but when I come to sell it on people can see its been looked after.
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Fletch..gti on October 20, 2015, 08:00:10 pm
Just a quick one off topic , what's  the gear change like now you have had the dsg oil change ? Smoother or just the same
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: StephenED30 on October 21, 2015, 05:20:10 pm
Defiantly felt smoother on the journey home but it was only 3 miles in stop/start traffic.
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Fletch..gti on October 21, 2015, 07:34:30 pm
Cheers that's my next job
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: Rado16v on November 02, 2015, 07:15:50 pm
Audi's policy is every 5 years/75K on the exact same engine. So I'm using that as my reference!

Exactly this. I did mine at 5yrs on 30k miles at the Seat dealership. My local VW's price match guarantee wouldn't!
Title: Re: 2nd Cambelt change 4yrs but only 27k?
Post by: fish on November 10, 2015, 06:52:37 pm
Well i got the Cam belt + water pump changed today. Also got new OEM engine, gearbox + dogbone mounts done at same time (it was making a knocking when turning over). Cost from my local VW specialist was £255 for labour, I supplied all parts from TPS except the coolant, so fairly happy with that.  :smiley: