MK5 Golf GTI
General => New Member Intro's => Topic started by: Johnmacster on December 28, 2009, 01:35:18 pm
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Hi there
Just joined after lurking for a while.
Looking at getting a GTi in the next few weeks. Decided on Steel Grey and must be 5 door as have a family.
I have had a MK1, 2, & 3 GTi and a MK4 GT TDi in the past, used to be mad on golfs for years, had about 9 of them :happy2:.
Didnt get a MK5 due to cost of them and got a 2003 facelift 330ci coupe (cracking car) but cant cope with 3 doors with the baby so its gotta go!
Could do with help, seen a 06 GTi with 27k, leather for £14k and a 07 Edition 30 with 52k for £14k.
Swayed by ED30 as I imagine it will hold value well if the nightmare I had getting a MK4 GTi anniversary is anything to go by!! Gave up and got GT TDi.
Anyhoo, I'll shut up, banged on enough!
Great site BTW :happy2:
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Welcome on board John. :happy2:
In regards to which GTI to choose. If you are going to get caught by the modding bug, then i would plump for the ED 30. If your not then either would be great :jumpmove:
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Cheers, defo not into modding them, dont have time anyway!
what do you think of the prices of the 2 i have seen?
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Get the best car you can for the money, which, for the two above examples would be the Ed 30. Abit newer but more miles should be ok as these are probably motorway miles. The extra equipment and BHP on an Ed30 would sway it for me, plus, as you say, abit more exclusivity :happy2:
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Ed30 no brainer :happy2:
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Ed30 no brainer :happy2:
Ditto...
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Hi and Welcome... :driver:
ED30 go for the best one you can find...with lots of extra's too... :tree:
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Cheers guys, Edition 30 my gut feeling also, @ 52k miles will only just be run in, I have had previous GTis with well over 100k miles and they drove great. I was only looking for standard GTi but this looks too good to miss, must be fate. Will pop along and get a look and drive of it this week.
Know anyone who wants a cracking 330ci coupe (mint, intact 1st aid kit, toolkit, torch etc - all the best signs I understand!) before they rip me off with the trade in price :happy2:
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I had the same dilema. In the end I reckoned whatever premium I paid for an ED30 would be worth it as the residuals would be stronger and you do have that slight exclusivity during ownership.
I bought an ED30 in the end am I'm pleased I did.
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I'd buy an edition 30, then find someone with a standard GTI and swap interiors with them for some money your way :grin:
I think everything about the ed30 is better than standard GTI, but I hate the interior. I would rather not have any red stitching anywhere and Idon't like the pattern either, which is why I have full leather in mine.
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Garth - not seen ED30 in the flesh yet but I do like the look of the check interior in the standard one so i'll be interested to see what the part leather is like. The standard GTi I have seen on the web has the vienna leather in.
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Ed30 no brainer :happy2:
Ditto...
hey hey hey! nothing wrong with a GTI :signLOL:
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Its ok for you with bluefin sportlines and exhaust on the way... :P
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:signLOL: only just getting them tho! had the standard GTI for 4 months and loved it............just not as much as i am going to :jumping:
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ED30 for deffo !!!
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Welcome fella! :drinking:
I can only echo what everyone else has said in that I'd go for the ED30. :happy2:
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Well I'm going to be the dissenter in the ranks and say GTI.....
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The reason I say that is that by the sounds of it you're coming from a 330Ci and in addition to the fact that you've already said you're probably not going to mod it then i would more than likely suspect that comfort might be on your list of priorities.
If I was you having had many sporting BMW's in the past and my last car being a Desert Biege PD130 with BBS RC's and a recaro biege interior (all factory), I would suggest go for a DSG GTi with every conceivable option and dont settle for anything less.
The leather in a GTI wont be as good as youre 330 but its pretty good and much better than the bloody tartan crap with red stitching everywhere that you get on the ED30 that they expect you to pay extra for.
My Gti is Black/Black leather/heated seats/winter pack/satnav/highline/MultiFunction steering wheel/19's/TPM and its not an unpleasant place to be. I remember my 330ci M Sport being a bit of a handful and the 325i Msport being the better car, its not like that with the golfs, the ED30 is a little faster admittedly but dynamically they are very similar and that to be honest is very good they're light years better than the Mk4.
The ED30 is a great blank canvas for some serious modding, but if you are not into this then just spend the extra money and get an ex demo from an enthusiastic sales manager who knows about speccing cars and enjoy it.
If you are desperate for the extra 30BHP you can drive into any REVO dealer and get it and another 15BHP on top free for 5 hours to see what driving an ED30 would have been like and if you like it its about £380 quid if you shop about.
Defo DSG (Its the best gearbox Ive ever driven this side of a warmed up F360), Defo Leather, defo xenons, if its got Monza II's great if it hasn't even better you can get some serious rimmage of here and elsewhere for £650-£800.Maybe a little more and go for 19's at the expense of some ride comfort.
25th Annis kept there values for a long time, not any more dont forget if you buy an ED30 then by the time you come around to buying your first road tax renewal the ED35 will be imminent (The anni is dead, long live the anni)
Your new car is out there, just needs finding now......
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I see what your saying there it kind of makes sense, but the ed30 isnt just another 30bhp... gti look plain in comparison, plastic bumper and valances and skirts.... pescaras on ed30... red stitching is awesome as are the half leather seats... Its still the better choice especially if you don't want to mod imo
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I for one would pay extra to NOT have leather as I hate it in a 'performance' car for the following reasons:
I like to feel held in and not slide around under hard braking/cornering etc
Leather feels, Hot in the Summer and cold in the Winter.....................
Just my two penneth but I like the mix of Leather/Cloth in the ED30 (even though my Recaro's are currently all cloth! :rolleye:). :happy2:
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In what way is a standard GTI more comfortable than an Ed30?? :stupid:
And I really like the INTERLAGOS cloth and leather seats in the Ed30. Full leather seats aren't that amazing you know - higher maintenance - needs cleaning, leather needs 'feeding', it cracks and shows dirt. And unless the car has heated seats they are very cold in winter and either way get extremely hot in summer. Remind me how do you cool these down? Push a button on the dash??
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The only reason I mention it is that the guy is coming of a 330ci which if its got cloth would probably be the only one in the country so coming back to cloth (whatever your feelings on tartan good or bad) may feel like a backwards step, as he's looking for a 5 door due family reasons maybe ultimate cornering G and non bum slippage might not be as important as a good looking interior with a good contrast such a Metallic Black with Biege Leather complemented with a good spec satnav/xenons/sunroof
Whilst I appreciate the OP has come on seeking opinion, consider the background. 330Ci's are a very good car, very endearing in much the same way as most of us feel about our golfs, the new owner of my 330ci had to prise the keys from my white knuckle grip. He's having to downgrade (yes sorry!) to a golf becasue of family reasons peoples priorities are different.
Now he'll no doubt come back on and be a total petrolhead and make me look a knob :signLOL: just trying to put an alternate view across
All leather in golfs is heated
Had my front and rear valances colour coded for £230
For somebody who doesnt want to mod ^^^^That^^^^^ DBP/Biege Leather/Satnav/Xenons/sunroof/Highline/MFSW/19" CH wearing stage 1 golf will give any ED30 a run for its money in the desirability stakes on any given day for the same money......
Just my £0.02, not having a dig at ED30's I think they're great
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as soon as possible i'll replace that awful ed30 tartan with alcantara. it's my least favorite part of the car
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Family wagon or not I happen to think the Interlagos (Tartan :rolleye:) gives the Golf a bit of character and VW did it to give this modern car a link back to the MK1 and set it apart from the mundane rep-mobiles with there boring 'beige' Leather interiors! :laugh:
The GTI is as much about the heritage as it is the driveability and the fact it is a cracking all rounder.
Ultimately we will all have differing opinions, and the above just happens to be mine! :wink:
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Family wagon or not I happen to think the Interlagos (Tartan :rolleye:) gives the Golf a bit of character and VW did it to give this modern car a link back to the MK1 and set it apart from the mundane rep-mobiles with there boring 'beige' Leather interiors! :laugh:
Interlagos/Tartan........Tomayto/Tomarto :booty:
The GTI is as much about the heritage as it is the driveability and the fact it is a cracking all rounder.
I fully agree Nathan thats why I drive one or did you mean to write "ED30" instead of "GTI" :evilgrin:
Ultimately we will all have differing opinions, and the above just happens to be mine! :wink:
Fully respect that :happy2:
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GTI/ED30 Tomato/Tomayto! :laugh:
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I have had both. ED30 all day
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Guys, sorry if I have started a heated deabte here, far from my intention!
Dave hit nail on the head, my 330ci is heathed leather etc and a very, very nice place to be and being the SSG is very comfortable to drive etc with serious overtaking speed when needed.
Due to values and the need for a house extension in spring this year the decision is made (for now!) and as I will now only spend 10k max the GTi is the choice. Not certain I will get much options for that budget though and selling the 330ci private will have to be the way forward as not many GTi's in dealers at sub £10k for me to px against.
Cheers all for continuing comments and advice, appreciated. Just need to find a buyer ASAP and a nice specced steel grey 5 door under £10k now......... not much to ask for :surprised:
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I got my GTI coming from a 330cd coupe then convertible. The Golf is nowhere near as comfortable and has a lot more wind noise than the BMW. The 'leather' interior in the Golf is a bit of a con; even on the part-leather Ed30, very little of the leather is real. Only the front faces of the seats and head-rests are leather, the sides and backs are vinyl. The leather is also quite hard and not very smooth. Don't be expecting the same level of quality or comfort in the seats as the BMW!
I bought my GTI as I do 800 miles per week and I wanted a 'disposable' car as the BMW would have lost a fortune if I kept it for much longer due to the mileage. The golf was the most economical hot hatch I could get that still had an acceptable level of comfort and refinement. It is reasonably quick and handles pretty well, but there the traction is terrible and the front scrabbles for grip all the time. It's better in the snow than the BMW though, that's for sure!
If it hadn't been for the mileage, I would have kept the BMW no question. That said however, I do quite like the GTI and it's more friendly round town and in car-parks than the Beemer. Because of the type of driving I do, there is almost no scope for spirited driving, so the more powerful Edition 30 would be no use to me. I always planned on mapping the GTI, but I don't think I will bother as I can't take advantage of the power it has now, let alone more.
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I think the wide range of opinions on the Interlagos/Tartan Interior simply goes to prove that it's very much a matter of opinion.
For me the Tartan is THE only interior to have on a GTI/ED 30 as I do like the link it gives back to the heritage of the Mk1 GTI. Can't actually believe it when I hear people don't like it.
Suppose it would be a boring forum if we all liked exactly the same options/mods eh. :innocent:
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Yup, got to say you cant fault the ED30 for tenability, very little outlay will get you a seriously quick car..
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Welcome along matey :pomppomp: :happy2:
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welcomes :drinking:
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Cheers guys, Edition 30 my gut feeling also, @ 52k miles will only just be run in, I have had previous GTis with well over 100k miles and they drove great. I was only looking for standard GTi but this looks too good to miss, must be fate. Will pop along and get a look and drive of it this week.
Know anyone who wants a cracking 330ci coupe (mint, intact 1st aid kit, toolkit, torch etc - all the best signs I understand!) before they rip me off with the trade in price :happy2:
How ironic.....I've just sold my Edition 30 and have just brought a BMW 330 Msport coupe fully loaded.
My Edition as documented on here had some nice APR goodies but it's interesting to compare the 2 cars.
I've only had my Coupe for a week but have to concur that the leather is much better than the VW.
Missing the turbo oomph in the mid range but that straight 6 sounds sooo good! It goes pretty well too for a heavy car and I'm surprised by it's overall pace for just 231 horses!
I had real problems in deciding on what to replace my Golf especially on a tight budget. I looked at 2.7 bi turbo S4's but they are money pits at big miles and I wanted a change from VAG stuff and needed a sensible German car as I can't sitting in French car!
The chassis on the BMW is sublime as is the steering for an OE car but I got a bit of a steal on price as the car has only covered 52K on a 2002 car with full main dealer history and every extra.
Edition 30 would be my choice BTW.
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Edition 30 without a doubt. Wish we could get them down here.
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I changed my 02 325ti for a 07 gti.The Golf is better all round but I do miss the noise of the BMW engine!.
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Update:
ED30 I was after went before I had a chance to view - damn snow.
I have test drove a standard 2006 5dr GTi today, very nice place to be I must say.
Its an 06, 28k miles, DSG, leather, 6cd, armrest, 3 services at VW - dealer wants £15k - waiting on a trade in offer from him.
Is this a good price for the car?
PS - msportman - youll love the coupe, I do, if it wasnt for the baby I'd keep it!
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Why have cotton when you can have silk...keep searching for that elusive ED30...its out there somewhere and you'll be so glad you waited once you find it. Ed30's are the way forward!! :wink: :happy2:
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Myfastcopilot on here has an Ed30 for sale for around 15k. Perhaps Pm him?
(steel grey Edition30, 5 door with Miltek exhaust)
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Myfastcopilot on here has an Ed30 for sale for around 15k. Perhaps Pm him?
(steel grey Edition30, 5 door with Miltek exhaust)
No good as I need to px the BMW as its not shifting privately but thanks for heads up, I'll have a look anyway, cheers :happy2:
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Hello and welcome.
Prior to my ED30, I owned a standard GTI. You mention wanting the car as family transport. The ride in the ED30 seems notably harsher to me than the standard car. You really do feel every knook and cranny in the road. This is fine for me, as no kiddies. However, if you regularly carry rear seat passengers I think the standard car is the better bet. (I'm not a tech expert on the suspension of each car, somebody may come along in a minute and say suspensions are identical, just saying how it feels to me) I had 18s on the standard GTI, so a fair comparison I think.
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Hello and welcome.
Prior to my ED30, I owned a standard GTI. You mention wanting the car as family transport. The ride in the ED30 seems notably harsher to me than the standard car. You really do feel every knook and cranny in the road. This is fine for me, as no kiddies. However, if you regularly carry rear seat passengers I think the standard car is the better bet. (I'm not a tech expert on the suspension of each car, somebody may come along in a minute and say suspensions are identical, just saying how it feels to me) I had 18s on the standard GTI, so a fair comparison I think.
cheers Tonker, input appreciated. I'm changing mind by the minute! Cost and availability will prevail probably
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Hello and welcome.
Prior to my ED30, I owned a standard GTI. You mention wanting the car as family transport. The ride in the ED30 seems notably harsher to me than the standard car. You really do feel every knook and cranny in the road. This is fine for me, as no kiddies. However, if you regularly carry rear seat passengers I think the standard car is the better bet. (I'm not a tech expert on the suspension of each car, somebody may come along in a minute and say suspensions are identical, just saying how it feels to me) I had 18s on the standard GTI, so a fair comparison I think.
You are correct in your thinking, they are indeed identical! :happy2: Maybe the tyre pressures were out on the car you tried? I came straight out of a GTI on 18's into an Edition 30 and the only difference was the steering felt lighter due to the different tyres. :happy2: