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Title: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: GordySB on November 08, 2015, 08:46:00 pm
I chipped my 2007 ED30 up to 300BHP earlier this year and running a few track days here and there, UK and on the continent. Fantastic fun, but now it's time to address the severe brake issues, especially in the (occasionally!) hot summer weather. Most of the time the car's used on the road so I can't justify spending £1,500 on the brakes.
I trawled the posts and found several old links from way back, 2011 etc. From these I gather I have standard discs so believe my R18 wheels have 312mm front and 286mm rear discs.
I need to get this up to 345mm front and do something at the rear.  It maybe possible to transfer the fronts to the rear and just upgrade the front or is it a new set all round?
Can anyone suggest part numbers for new fronts inc calipers, hoses and shields? Same for rear if necessary? I bumped into this link along the way, seems like a cheap solution....?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181915030547?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I'd appreciate any help, cheers
Gordy.
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: flashp on November 09, 2015, 08:07:11 am
Hi Gordy, I think you have two options with your budget and intended use in mind.
S3 upgrade - pros are it's cheap and works well, cons are you can still stretch them too far on track as I did even with DS2500 pads in (which I think is not the best pad choice for track but great on road) and ATE Super Blue fluid. Take the rears as well as they're vented. The fronts are especially heavy.

There are also a number of VAG (Brembo) 4 piston options that you could take with the S3 rears.

Having gone the S3 front & rear route myself I would say with the benefit of hindsight that the 4 piston kit for the front and S3 rears would be the way to go. I'm not qualified to talk about the 4 piston options since I have no experience or in depth knowledge of them. There are plenty here who do though.  :happy2:

The items in your Ebay link look like they've been painted grey which wasn't an original colour. They also look a bit 'crusty' around the edges. Nothing wrong with refurbished calipers if done properly though.
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: xjay1337 on November 09, 2015, 10:07:07 am
TTRS caliper with 340/345mm discs
S3 rear setup
Perfect.
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: Johnsy on November 09, 2015, 10:23:53 am
TTRS caliper with 340/345mm discs
S3 rear setup
Perfect.


Is the S3 rear brake and those on a mk2 Cupra r the same?

I can vouch for the ttrs setup, Iv put the kit together over a few months and Iv just had it fitted, I managed to source exerting need for under £700
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: rich83 on November 09, 2015, 10:33:29 am
R32 fronts with project mu brake pads will be fine and fairly cheap
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: xjay1337 on November 09, 2015, 01:03:18 pm
TTRS caliper with 340/345mm discs
S3 rear setup
Perfect.


Is the S3 rear brake and those on a mk2 Cupra r the same?

I can vouch for the ttrs setup, Iv put the kit together over a few months and Iv just had it fitted, I managed to source exerting need for under £700

No think the cupra r is 286mm.
easy to tell by looking anyway  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: GordySB on November 14, 2015, 03:31:36 pm
Thanks all for your help, will let you know how I get on!
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: GordySB on November 14, 2015, 03:37:55 pm
TTRS caliper with 340/345mm discs
S3 rear setup
Perfect.


Is the S3 rear brake and those on a mk2 Cupra r the same?

I can vouch for the ttrs setup, Iv put the kit together over a few months and Iv just had it fitted, I managed to source exerting need for under £700

Johnsy, can you give me the part numbers needed for the TTRS front end set up you used please? Cheers. Gordy
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: Mitch H on November 14, 2015, 04:11:43 pm
There's a chap on here in the for sale section selling full kits with Brembo 17z calipers at good money
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: GordySB on November 16, 2015, 08:33:12 pm
I was told today the TTRS 345mm discs and calipers wouldn't fit in the 18" wheels and I'd have to go to 19" wheels. Has anyone else managed them inside 18's and how???
Cheers
Gordy
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: dansmith180 on November 16, 2015, 10:54:15 pm
They fit inside 18's, even the 370mm kit fits under some 18's...... just
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: xjay1337 on November 18, 2015, 02:22:57 pm
I was told today the TTRS 345mm discs and calipers wouldn't fit in the 18" wheels and I'd have to go to 19" wheels. Has anyone else managed them inside 18's and how???
Cheers
Gordy
bollox
the TTS (340mm) and the TTRS (370mm) fit fine under 18 inch wheels.
Title: Re: Mk5 Ed30 brake upgrade for occasional track day
Post by: Shoduchi on November 18, 2015, 03:38:20 pm
I was told today the TTRS 345mm discs and calipers wouldn't fit in the 18" wheels and I'd have to go to 19" wheels. Has anyone else managed them inside 18's and how???
Cheers
Gordy
My 18Z with 6-pot Brembo calipers and 350 mm discs fit under 18'' wheels. Better find someone else to talk about brakes. :wink: