MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: chrisjudd on November 17, 2015, 09:18:47 pm

Title: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 17, 2015, 09:18:47 pm
Hi,

I got given this by my dad out of his 2011 Tiguan

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F11%2F17%2Fc7f60d669c41f795ac7629eee7a00a55.jpg&hash=1a95a67b1af41084834b5a271204a1c952372d0a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F11%2F17%2Fa6960c40bb53b59b21d1579b73b62d0d.jpg&hash=a70aa52d523693ef453f822d47d6cd79d37c14b7)

Thought he was being generous but all it does is say swl initialising when I put it in my 2004 mk5 golf.

Is there a fix for this or is it screwed?

Cheers in advanced!


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: Pashka on November 17, 2015, 10:28:57 pm
download this
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B55TwfUF0rHrZGY3YmZkODYtYjkwYS00M2U1LTlmY2EtMzEyMGRjOWNiOTQy/view?ddrp=1&hl=it&pli=1
write to cd and try this, insert cd and push Setup + Eject +Info/Mic.
Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: PT82 on November 17, 2015, 10:35:07 pm
Isn't that going to drain your battery having an early Golf without an uprated canbus gateway?
Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: RetroRaz on November 17, 2015, 10:45:53 pm
Isn't that going to drain your battery having an early Golf without an uprated canbus gateway?
It will.

You can get newer gateways for around £30 from ebay

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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 17, 2015, 10:49:50 pm
Sorry being a bit of a noob, what's the gateway business? Seen it mentioned a few time on here but I'm none the wiser!


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 18, 2015, 07:08:31 pm
Going to give this a go this evening I shall report back


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: PT82 on November 18, 2015, 07:30:02 pm
You will need an adaptor aswell as the unit draining your battery due to older canbus buddy, so I wouldn't bother unless you have one.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/171975118167
Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: Rossimac on November 18, 2015, 08:06:55 pm
You can always take the plastic connectors off your current leads and just plug the leads in without the plastic house. I wrapped the first one in electrical tape to avoid interference... Worked at treat and saved me £7 (and more importantly the wait from eBay).

The biggest problem you're going to face is the CAN Gateway being an older version which doesn't support this stereo. Essentially, the communication between the stereo and your car will be wrong and the stereo will never fully turn off, leading to a dead car due to battery drain over night.

Odds are the version you've got is not compatible - get a VCDS scan of your car and look for your Gateway's version and compare with the ross-tech website.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Navigation_System_(RNS510)_Retrofitting (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Navigation_System_(RNS510)_Retrofitting)

This is a newer version that I bought (mine was 1K0-907-530-F, so needed updating):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-CAN-BUS-GATEWAY-CONTROL-UNIT-for-VW-RNS310-RCD510-RNS510-RNS315-7N0907530AN-/191085346455?hash=item2c7d92fe97:g:n50AAOSwu-BWPW~E (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-CAN-BUS-GATEWAY-CONTROL-UNIT-for-VW-RNS310-RCD510-RNS510-RNS315-7N0907530AN-/191085346455?hash=item2c7d92fe97:g:n50AAOSwu-BWPW~E)

Then you need to:


Job is a goodun.

You can buy pre-coded Gateways ( @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) sells these ), where I presume he does all of the work of ticking the boxes for you.

You may need to code the RNS 510 in as well.

Any questions, let us know!

Good luck.
Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 18, 2015, 08:29:16 pm
Well.

Tried it!

It loads the cd

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F11%2F18%2F6a1be7d253939b65cf4f35b95f5c4cba.jpg&hash=beae7bcbf882d014d1b15cb71d94356c29d72c24)

But then just goes on a loop of saying this

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F11%2F18%2F7935051271819505ecbf4e68186fc90c.jpg&hash=dd9f88b02805f70e8ad35674a3b3d0e10f83ae73)

And then resetting

Is it goosed then?


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 18, 2015, 09:21:04 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F11%2F18%2F34622a013079be8f6b248872f4e9bb50.jpg&hash=85c6f1f71330ffaf9f62f4f5108739fee5c20389)

Winning!

Randomly started working. Just got to sort the code and the other bits mentioned


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: DANBOY66 on November 19, 2015, 07:38:34 am
result  :happy2:
Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 19, 2015, 08:58:43 am
Any tips on getting a code? Just phoned vw and he pretty much said even if I took it in to them it won't work?


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: Pashka on November 19, 2015, 12:21:34 pm
Any tips on getting a code? Just phoned vw and he pretty much said even if I took it in to them it won't work?


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For example http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-Radio-Decode-Unlock-Code-Golf-Passat-Polo-510-310-315-RCD-510-RNS-Gamma-Delta-/111647309412?hash=item19feb2be64:g:4TYAAOSweW5VLly5&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 19, 2015, 12:28:24 pm
code via serial number only works if the unit is fitted from the factory

most units sold on ebay would have had a new code made up

If the code via serial number doesn't work I have RNS manager and can make a new code

Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 19, 2015, 06:16:35 pm
Code sorted, my old man phoned vw with his vin number and the serial number off the stereo and the chap sorted a code. Funnily I phoned Salisbury branch and the said it couldn't be done, he phoned peterbourgh and they sorted it. Why such a wide difference in help I'll never know!

Need to get an ariel adapter, and also a gps sensor, seen them on eBay really cheap so that's no problem.

The sticking point for me is the Bluetooth module. I can get off eBay (from China) the whole module and plug and play harness for £68. Anyone had any experiences of China gear? All says oem on the listing but not convinced


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: Rossimac on November 19, 2015, 08:58:25 pm
....how's the battery holding up in the car...?
Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 19, 2015, 09:23:56 pm
No problems. Put the stereo in last night around 7.30, wife started it up this morning at 11 am and it was fine!

Just plugging in the laptop now to try the suggested post much above


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 19, 2015, 09:57:44 pm

You can always take the plastic connectors off your current leads and just plug the leads in without the plastic house. I wrapped the first one in electrical tape to avoid interference... Worked at treat and saved me £7 (and more importantly the wait from eBay).

The biggest problem you're going to face is the CAN Gateway being an older version which doesn't support this stereo. Essentially, the communication between the stereo and your car will be wrong and the stereo will never fully turn off, leading to a dead car due to battery drain over night.

Odds are the version you've got is not compatible - get a VCDS scan of your car and look for your Gateway's version and compare with the ross-tech website.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Navigation_System_(RNS510)_Retrofitting (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Navigation_System_(RNS510)_Retrofitting)

This is a newer version that I bought (mine was 1K0-907-530-F, so needed updating):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-CAN-BUS-GATEWAY-CONTROL-UNIT-for-VW-RNS310-RCD510-RNS510-RNS315-7N0907530AN-/191085346455?hash=item2c7d92fe97:g:n50AAOSwu-BWPW~E (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-CAN-BUS-GATEWAY-CONTROL-UNIT-for-VW-RNS310-RCD510-RNS510-RNS315-7N0907530AN-/191085346455?hash=item2c7d92fe97:g:n50AAOSwu-BWPW~E)

Then you need to:

  • Get a backup (screenshots will do!) of your current Gateway's installed modules list (this just details everything in your car that is running through your Gateway)
  • Replace Gateway with newer version
  • Untick all installed items on the new one (as it probably came from a car which had different installed items) and tick all of the boxes that apply to your car

Job is a goodun.

You can buy pre-coded Gateways ( @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) sells these ), where I presume he does all of the work of ticking the boxes for you.

You may need to code the RNS 510 in as well.

Any questions, let us know!

Good luck.

I've got vcds lite and an old vag com cable, won't let me do what your asking, I guess I need the more expensive Ross tech stuff?


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 19, 2015, 11:40:39 pm
Also, how's the iPhone Bluetooth compatability? Ive been reading up and it seems a bit hit and miss.

Just wanted to check before I ordered a Bluetooth unit for playing music


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: Rossimac on November 20, 2015, 01:24:48 am
I've got vcds lite and an old vag com cable, won't let me do what your asking, I guess I need the more expensive Ross tech stuff?

I originally tried a friend's VCDS (illegal version) which I couldn't get to work with my car for love or money.

Ended up just buying the full thing which worked wonders and leaves me with little headaches.

Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 21, 2015, 09:28:38 am
Well it's gone back to doing its swl initialising business tried the cd a few times and it's not working :(


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 21, 2015, 07:00:30 pm
Anyone want a dud rns510 for parts giving up with it


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: doylebros on November 21, 2015, 07:03:38 pm
Anyone want a dud rns510 for parts giving up with it


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There's a firm offering fixed price exchange for these,not worth a look down that route?
Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: chrisjudd on November 21, 2015, 07:20:18 pm
Who does that?

I've got a double din alpine in the shed that I keep getting tempted to put in


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Title: Re: Stereo issue
Post by: doylebros on November 21, 2015, 07:24:35 pm
It's in a flyer at work but I think it was these

http://www.bba-reman.com/catalogue/Products.aspx?category=992

I can check on Monday if it's still there.