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Title: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on November 29, 2015, 08:49:56 pm
Tried to find this on the how to section with no luck.......

A mate is going to do an oil & filter change next week and as he has use of a ramp I want to have a gander underneath and have a general check over.
As there is a squeak/screech every time you start the engine, following advice on here I want to try and grease the shaft on the starter motor for a start to see if that sorts it out.
Is it an easy enough job or anything to look out for?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: r5gtt on November 29, 2015, 10:58:07 pm
Fan belt noise?.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on November 30, 2015, 08:02:25 pm
Wouldn't have a clue to be honest as no good with mechanics it was suggested here that the the noise could be a dried out starter motor shaft. It makes the noise every time you start the engine.
I'll ask mate to check pulley/belts as well, just wondered if taking the starter motor off is straight forward or not?
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: r5gtt on November 30, 2015, 10:01:36 pm
I've heard a weird noise coming from many vw polo's and always comment on it being the started motor but cannot explain the noise  :laugh: it's such a weird noise and cannot be explained and I'm guessing it's that you maybe referring to if mechanics have looked at or have heard the noise.

M

Have a listen

Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: BigA91 on December 01, 2015, 03:39:05 pm
The 'traditional' VW starter motor signs are in that video. When you try starting it up, you'll hear a loud whine or whistle for a second or so and then it'll be back to normal. One of lecturers at engineering once suggested to try spraying some WD40 on it....never tried it though!
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Matt81 on December 01, 2015, 03:50:12 pm
Mine has a quick (small) sequel on every start-up.

Changed the aux belt and still there soe guess I'll just live with it.  Garage seemed to think they all did it.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: r5gtt on December 01, 2015, 05:50:57 pm
I haven't had this problem touch wood  :scared:
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Flyingscotsman on December 01, 2015, 08:21:20 pm
Always start with clutch depressed - saves battery & no noise
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Matt81 on December 02, 2015, 08:51:38 am
Always start with clutch depressed - saves battery & no noise

Tricky on a DSG :-P
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Flyingscotsman on December 02, 2015, 09:06:35 am
True! My brain was in automatic  :stupid:
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: r5gtt on December 02, 2015, 09:23:06 am
 :driver:  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: schmidt_vr6 on December 02, 2015, 10:26:24 am
As said before its the start motor. Have a read... I've had this problem before on a MK5 GTI DSG. And I know what I did to sort it. Taking the starter motor off takes 10 Minutes as that's how long it took my brother who is abit handy with tools.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=24104.0

http://www.r32oc.com/topic/58417-mk5-r32-fanbelt-type-squeal-only-on-start-up/
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: r5gtt on December 02, 2015, 11:09:45 am
Just had a look at the starter motor in my dsg and it's easy access and situated at the front of the engine so you can't go wrong. :happy2:

Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: vRSAlex on December 03, 2015, 05:14:01 pm
Its just two bolts, a nut, and a plug.  Remove the negative from the battery first.

VW do a specific spray lube for the DSG starter motors which generally fixes the issue.  Got some here somewhere.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on December 03, 2015, 07:33:03 pm
Thanks for the advice guys, Alex any chance you can find out what that specific lube is please thanks?
I can pop by TPS tomorrow if it's something they would sell.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on December 04, 2015, 11:00:07 am
I phoned TPS and they hadn't got a clue what I was talking about, there wasn't a VW spray for lubing the starter motor.
Is it a Quantum lube Alex by chance?
Cheers.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on December 04, 2015, 07:38:52 pm
Alex I've mailed you cheers.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on December 07, 2015, 07:45:53 am
Ok, if anyone knows what the specific lube is and can let me know today so I can order it from TPS today that would be great thanks.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: r5gtt on December 07, 2015, 08:38:02 am
Yeah it's called multi purpose grease  :laugh:
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on December 07, 2015, 09:06:15 am
............
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: r5gtt on December 07, 2015, 09:56:41 am
............
No I wasn't joking  :happy2:
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on December 07, 2015, 03:52:31 pm
Oh right cheers then lol, bit confused as on the threads some say a lube spay or wd40 and some a grease.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: r5gtt on December 07, 2015, 04:38:29 pm
Oh right cheers then lol, bit confused as on the threads some say a lube spay or wd40 and some a grease.

I have a friend in Birmingham who owns a starter alternator recon shop in his late 50's running this place for 25 years so I wouldn't waste my time on wd as this dries up.
Most likely the ring needs loobing but you need to remove the started to do this.

Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on December 07, 2015, 07:50:10 pm
Righto ta, I'll give mate all the info tomorrow. Cheers.
Title: Re: Removing starter motor on a dsg?
Post by: Lewo on December 15, 2015, 12:41:37 am
Well, mate didn't have time to look at this problem in the end, had a quick listen and couldn't work out where the noise was coming from.
I'll try an upload a recording of it when I can.