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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Cosmetic/Interior Modifications => Topic started by: bluebert92 on December 12, 2015, 08:47:35 pm

Title: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: bluebert92 on December 12, 2015, 08:47:35 pm
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Hello there I've just order a set of the above^

It says in the description the bulb type is H7/ H7/ H21W/ W5W

I'm assuming the x2 H7 would be for the main and dipped headlights? Which I'm assuming I can order two normal 6000k lamps?

I do have no idea which colour the H21W or the W5W should be? Is there any one who has the Depo xenon look headlights?
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: Lyons on December 12, 2015, 09:26:14 pm
Can't help, but can I ask where you got them? I'm after a set myself.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: shaunnorris7 on December 12, 2015, 09:35:45 pm
The H21W bulbs are the indicators, when I bought these lights they were already fitted.

I bought 2 sets of Philips H7 bulbs and matching W5W from PowerBulbs.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: bluebert92 on December 13, 2015, 12:01:41 am
Ahh okay, would I need to order Amber bulbs or would the casing have tinted Amber?

And I got them off eBay
Look at this on eBay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/301204859556

VW Golf MK5 2003-2009 R32 Gti Style Black Projector Head Lights Lamps Depo Pair
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: Wooosh on December 13, 2015, 02:21:38 am
You need to order amber bulbs mate, which H7 bulbs are you fitting?
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: bluebert92 on December 13, 2015, 11:25:42 am
Was going to use a Phillips or an osram night breaker, my experience in my job would say Phillips lamps are very good but obviously sparkys don't fit car lamps often :/
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: shaunnorris7 on December 13, 2015, 06:25:56 pm
Mine came with amber bulbs already fitted still..
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: bluebert92 on December 13, 2015, 09:50:33 pm
Mine categorically states that it comes with no lamps what so ever, could anyone tell me which lamp is the indicator bulb is it the W5W or the H21W?
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: Lyons on December 14, 2015, 05:38:00 am
The H21W bulbs are the indicators, when I bought these lights they were already fitted.

As stated, 21W are the indicators and W5W are the side lights.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: D_Philli_82 on December 14, 2015, 08:14:13 am
Fit a HID kit or don't bother....the output will not cut it...indicator is H21W. Sidelight is W5W. Nightbreakers for the full beam lamps


VW Golf mk5 1.9tdi 150
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: shaunnorris7 on December 14, 2015, 08:19:44 am
I messed about with HID kits but there all a pain in the :booty: so have these as dipped and main beam..

http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h7-twin

The output is great :happy2:
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: Lyons on December 14, 2015, 09:18:36 am
Do the Nightbreakers or Philips Xtreme give off a blue tint at all? I'm after some new bulbs but do not want any hint of blueness.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: shaunnorris7 on December 14, 2015, 09:37:23 am
Do the Nightbreakers or Philips Xtreme give off a blue tint at all? I'm after some new bulbs but do not want any hint of blueness.

No mate, no signs of any blue!
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: samiul11 on December 19, 2015, 02:57:09 pm
Light output was pants with standard h7 bulbs...fitted a hid kid and now its perfect!
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: bluebert92 on December 19, 2015, 03:03:20 pm
I have standard h7s as it stands and it isn't so bad that I can't drive it however I am ordering some hid kits now, I've read somewhere that hid kits could potentially be illegal if they aren't fitted with an e mark and have headlight washers? Is there truth to this?
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: r5gtt on December 19, 2015, 11:56:39 pm
Can I be of help?.

The main and dipped lights are h7 but I went for the bi xenon 6000k kit from china. main beam are 6000k h7. left the side lights as they are with 501 amber bulbs I got with the lights of a gti forum member on here but some people fit the clear/xenon white bulbs in again t10 or 501. the indicators are an unusual bulb and look like the BA9S bulbs but slimmer and you cannot change them for anything else but then again don't need to as they have the amber lense already mounted for indicators. I've fitted t10 led's to these as mine were melted and burnt out  :signLOL: so I had to replace the holders  :surprised:

you can see both amber in my signature  :happy2:

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Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: anderson9 on January 22, 2016, 05:59:21 pm
I've got a HID kit fitted on mine, never been stopped and it's passed 2 MOT's with them on.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: r5gtt on January 23, 2016, 01:19:53 am
Spoke.to a garage and mot tester today and he says some mot stations can be funny about the E mark on the lights and fail the mot but most certainly can fail you for having xenon after market on.
Guys at work also say it's a fail of your fitting after market xenons as vosa require you to have adjustable suspension or head light level adjusters with headlight washer system in place. who's cares as long as we have light  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: bluebert92 on January 23, 2016, 05:34:10 pm
I think the mot failure thing is more of a myth, similar to a decat kind of situation - if you find a decent garage then no dramas!
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: r5gtt on January 24, 2016, 12:26:03 am
Just don't go to any main stealerships  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: An0NyMOUs on January 24, 2016, 10:34:22 pm
You cannot get an MOT failure from fitting HID kits in bi-xenon lights. Self adjusters and washers are only mandatory for a car which left the factory with xenon's.

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Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: downtime on January 25, 2016, 08:59:33 am
You cannot get an MOT failure from fitting HID kits in bi-xenon lights. Self adjusters and washers are only mandatory for a car which left the factory with xenon's.

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Whaaattt!!! Yes you can fail, for several reasons.

1. No aftermarket Hx connector HID kit has e-approval. That is first mandatory requirement for MOT pass and is EU wide legislation. You can only use either D2x, D1x or D3x HID bulbs which means the whole headlight assembly needs to be compliant.
2. Automatic headlight adjustment and washers ARE MANDATORY TO ALL CARS WITH HID OR LED LIGHTS WHICH HAVE MORE THAN 2000 LUMENS AND ARE MANUFACTURED AFTER 2001. No exceptions here, again EU legislation.
Read here, this is for UK :
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606172804/http:/assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-information-sheets/aftermarket-hid-headlamps.pdf
UK cannot deviate from EU legislation on road safety issues, they must comply.

So only option to get legal HID lights is to retrofit compliant headlight assemblies, automatic self-levelling (either with sensors or automatic suspension) and washers. All other options are illegal for road use. There's no debate about this, it's regulated by law.

If you install 20w HID kit which will stay under the 2000 lumen boundary, then you don't need self-levelling nor washers. But you still need correct bulb type. Means D1x, D2x, D3x or D4x. No Hx bulb will be compliant as no e-approval on them.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: An0NyMOUs on January 25, 2016, 09:17:37 am
You can read legislations all you like. I'm in the motor trade and know many MOT testers. They don't fail people.

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Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: downtime on January 26, 2016, 08:36:06 am
You can read legislations all you like. I'm in the motor trade and know many MOT testers. They don't fail people.

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Well they are breaking the law, simple as that. You think you can dismiss what is in legislation just because in your opinion it's fine to install not approved HID kits to not approved headlight assemblies? Pretty dangerous attitude.

And you don't know all MOT testers. Luckily some still have common sense and they will fail you for having illegal lights.

And what was most worrying was this comment:

Self adjusters and washers are only mandatory for a car which left the factory with xenon's.

Which is total bullsh*t. You should know if you're in motor trade business. You should've written, mandatory in your own opinion.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: An0NyMOUs on January 26, 2016, 09:04:27 am
I'm going by what other people have told me and what I've read on some forums myself. I don't have the time to sit and read legislations all day...

 I've read in many places that if the car didn't leave the factory with xenon lights and some form of aftermarket HID/Xenon light has been fitted, washers and self adjusters aren't necessary.

Besides, as I'm sure you'll know, a lot of cars that go in for MOT's have more serious issues than an aftermarket HID kit.

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Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: r5gtt on January 26, 2016, 09:47:35 am
All aftermarket hid bi xenon head lights without the E mark are a fail and they don't have self levelling suspension or washers in place. Those mot testers are meant to fail these lights.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: Lyons on January 26, 2016, 06:33:08 pm
You cannot get an MOT failure from fitting HID kits in bi-xenon lights. Self adjusters and washers are only mandatory for a car which left the factory with xenon's.

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Not in Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: Danknott15 on March 17, 2016, 10:34:11 am
Can anybody who's fitted these tell me whether I need canbus or non canbus hid? Also do I need any additional adapters/bulb holders??
Title: Re: Depo xenon look headlights just ordered,
Post by: Nasir on March 18, 2016, 01:42:37 pm
"HID Kits" in reflector housing headlights are stupid. You're just making the car look cheap, yourself look like a tw*t and annoying other road users.

Oh and not to mention that you'll probably have poorer visibility than standard headlights. Because blue lights do not equal better lighting.

I hope more MOT testers fail them.