MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: noisey tappet
Post by: mogga69 on December 18, 2015, 03:40:10 pm
hi just wondering if any of you have had a noisey tappet sound seems to be noticeable on idle car drives fine just wondering what it could be the car has 108000 miles fsh and its the axx engine .... any ideas of a good garage in the north east Northumberland area who could sort it out cheers
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: Scottymon on December 18, 2015, 04:32:54 pm
How long have you had the car?... has the idling sound changed over time?

The HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pump) makes them sound less than smooth most of the time.

When's the Cambelt service due?
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 18, 2015, 05:01:50 pm
Most probably this causing your issue. Cam follower fuel pump tappet. part number 06D109309C.
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: mogga69 on December 18, 2015, 05:32:58 pm
hi there just had the cambelt and water pump changed 6 months ago is it dangerous to drive in the short term cheers again
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 18, 2015, 06:23:05 pm
Six months ago and just  :laugh:

only kidding mate. I shouldn't think it would be dangerous but more if it totally wears down then car will cause starting issues. other than that you'll have no problems of driving it even rattling it's socks off as most people have done or do.  :happy2:
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: Scottymon on December 18, 2015, 06:26:30 pm
As @r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199) said, always worth checking the HPFP Follower on these motors bud:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fr-techperformance.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Fhpfp-cam-follower-tfsi.jpg&hash=413adcae8c48d40f7225d808909d8539e336607c)

It's not a hard job :)

Are you tuned?  Makes a big difference to the wear rate.

But the noise is most likely just normal for TFSI... check it none the less :)
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 18, 2015, 06:32:28 pm
@Scottymon (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7640) thanks for the picture as I couldn't find a picture do show what happens :drinking:

I'm new to the tfsi scene so reading a lot and getting to know what's what with these cars and maybe even own this for 5 years like my previous beasty  :grin: :driver: if all runs well of course...  :rolleye:
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: dazza on December 18, 2015, 06:38:09 pm
Best to check it. Mine was stage 2+ when i bought my car.  :confused:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fimages%2FIMG_5636.jpg&hash=d43597e34a77ec6faa9bcc3b5a5acf9aa74e61f6)

How the last one looked after 5000km.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fimages%2F20150523_122440_resized.jpg&hash=4cd44d9020af822e57e503584fb0bfcfad7d4c4b)
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: doylebros on December 18, 2015, 06:44:59 pm
A sound clip is always best but if this noise is more apparent when warm I would read this thread http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,100439.msg1004734.html#msg1004734

As I've found by the time the tappet show above is that noisey vehicle starting has become an issue.
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: K9 on December 19, 2015, 07:01:01 pm
my gti is stage 1+ and 107.000km. should i check my? axx engine
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 19, 2015, 07:11:56 pm
my gti is stage 1+ and 107.000km. should i check my? axx engine
No let it wear out and damage the pump and tappet K9  :P
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: dazza on December 19, 2015, 08:42:40 pm
I check mine every oil change. Much easier since i deleted the banjo bolt.
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: bluebert92 on December 19, 2015, 09:04:42 pm
is there a guide to check it? One could hit me in the face and I wouldnt know if it was a tappet or not?
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: doylebros on December 19, 2015, 09:15:34 pm
is there a guide to check it? One could hit me in the face and I wouldnt know if it was a tappet or not?

This will help http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8339.0.html

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59369.new.html

The second link has a video at the start which is very educational and will let you know if your capable for this DIY.
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 19, 2015, 09:24:49 pm
No one has ever mentioned setting the tdc mark up in any of the posts I've read in order to replace the cam follower  :surprised:
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: doylebros on December 19, 2015, 09:26:48 pm
No one has ever mentioned setting the tdc mark up in any of the posts I've read  :surprised:

Some people are over cautious but it depends on the installers ability!
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 19, 2015, 09:36:43 pm
No one has ever mentioned setting the tdc mark up in any of the posts I've read  :surprised:

Some people are over cautious but it depends on the installers ability!
I'm wondering how hard can this be being a technician  :confused: simply remove the pump take out the follower and refit with the new part and hey presto  :signLOL: can't go wrong  :rolleye:
Unbolt and refit job done??? even a novice can do it so why scare people off???.

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Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: doylebros on December 19, 2015, 09:40:46 pm
No one has ever mentioned setting the tdc mark up in any of the posts I've read  :surprised:

Some people are over cautious but it depends on the installers ability!
I'm wondering how hard can this be being a technician  :confused: simply remove the pump take out the follower and refit with the new part and hey presto  :signLOL: can't go wrong  :rolleye:
It's important to remember a lot of the peps are not mechanically minded and are asking for the best advice to give them a step by step guide as their employment could be in any discipline and are doing this for pleasure not paid employment - they just want help!
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 19, 2015, 09:45:55 pm
doylebros, I totally understand people on here are from all walks but telling them to set the tdc is something that a professional would do when replacing a t belt kit  :wink: anything extra is frightening even for me  :scared:  :P
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: dazza on December 19, 2015, 10:22:20 pm
Whats TDC can remember doing that when i did my belt.  :scared:

These guides are without the banjo bolt. Which can be a pita if you don't have the correct triple square bit. If you have an axx take a look at this.

http://myfastgti.com/volkswagen/threads/12734-DIY-HPFP-Removal-and-Cam-Follower-Replacement

I struggled doing mine the first time around then i found a screwdriver bit set that had an m8 that fitted a 1/4 inch ratchet which made it simple.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.daz.co%2Fimages%2F20150420_175431_resized.jpg&hash=bae31c39f826b07cd735c05e70a8b077bb94dfe0)

Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 19, 2015, 10:36:50 pm
Thanks dazza, luckily I have all the tools necessary for thr replacement and I have a BWA engine it that makes my life any easier?. I have a very light rattle so will check this out for sure.

I had a nightmare with my OEM ugly box replacement as something fell down the turbo inlet and I had no idea what it was  :scared: :surprised: all I know is I was removing the silicon hose and something fell in!!! spent 30mintues with a torch and a hose clamp bent in the shape of a claw bit couldn't pick up what it was a looked black like rubber!!! luckily I had a pack of gum in my pocket so chewed three pieces and stuck it to the claw I made. OMGOSH :scared: I found a 25cm squared piece of bonnet trim stuck to the home made claw like wt*  :stupid: don't know how it dropped off... thay would have screwed my turbo for sure...
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: dazza on December 19, 2015, 10:50:32 pm
I always worry about things like that especially when my kids are in and out of the garage. I put a spray paint lid over the turbo pipe.
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 19, 2015, 10:54:33 pm
I always worry about things like that especially when my kids are in and out of the garage. I put a spray paint lid over the turbo pipe.
I don't have the luxury of a garage. I just couldn't believe my worst nightmare came true and something fell in.  :surprised: Glad I got it out else tuebo off job and I'd rather not be doing that. First mk5 and already pi**** off with the way it's designed lol
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: Scottymon on December 22, 2015, 01:03:17 pm
I do the same, always putting a new plastic glove over the Turbo pipe or anything that needs to stay clean, went a bit mad when doing the ABS pump, as I was sh!t scared of fouling the connector with brake fluid.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voodish.co.uk%2Fmisc%2FABS_Fix_Kit0.JPG&hash=e75de3183a94543aada0f3922527f2e87914bc95)

Worth noting to those who haven't done the Cam Follower before, don't open the drivers door :pomppomp: it tries to prime the fuel pump!! :signLOL:
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 22, 2015, 01:25:14 pm
I do the same, always putting a new plastic glove over the Turbo pipe or anything that needs to stay clean, went a bit mad when doing the ABS pump, as I was sh!t scared of fouling the connector with brake fluid.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voodish.co.uk%2Fmisc%2FABS_Fix_Kit0.JPG&hash=e75de3183a94543aada0f3922527f2e87914bc95)

Worth noting to those who haven't done the Cam Follower before, don't open the drivers door :pomppomp: it tries to prime the fuel pump!! :signLOL:
Just looking at that got me confused  :confused: :laugh:

Honestly mate, I would have covered it if I thought I was in danger of losing something down there but wt* that bonnet felt came from out if no where as it's a simple take off pipe and refit pipe job. For anyone reading this, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHEWING GUM TO HAND  :signLOL: as that saved my turbo for sure.

Note to you and everyone else is to remove the fuse for the fuel pump so it can't prime itself  :happy2:
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: Scottymon on December 22, 2015, 08:24:33 pm
Ha, yeah, good call which fuse is it btw?  Think my Cam Follower is in need of inspection soon.
Title: Re: noisey tappet
Post by: r5gtt on December 22, 2015, 08:47:48 pm
I think it's fuse number 2 but double check with your user handbook  :happy2: