MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Vwgtiking on December 22, 2015, 08:21:23 am
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Am trying to remove my front bumper. All screws removed around grill area and 4 on each arch. I am pulling but no movement. Am I missing something?
I followed this guide
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3443678
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What aboit the ones under the bumper?.
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lol stupid guide. I fitted headlights by partially removing bumper in end.
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And guess what found a load more bodges
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Yes you can fit them with just thr ones removed :laugh:
Bodge ups??? :surprised:
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Forgot also ask. I don't have these 2 bolts here as pictured but there is nothing to secure it underneath. What is it suppose to bolt too?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F12%2F22%2F2cccef90b1a6a0a51590b3d256246155.jpg&hash=90b9dc2b0a49ba7744ae9f834703cbccbce4d39d)
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There are meant to be fasteners where the bumper meets the panel but yours look like they're missing and someone's bodged it into the panel itself.
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Do you know what they look like or know part number or their name? There is nothing under these holes. Apart from crash bar which is about 3in away from the bumper.
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They are nut inserts you will need a tool to put them in
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Like this
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There are meant to be fasteners where the bumper meets the panel but yours look like they're missing and someone's bodged it into the panel itself.
Just found a video for a Jetta and looks like there is some sort of bar. Pic below. What is it called?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F12%2F22%2Fefa2982fa8dac36ef608267075a6e3f0.jpg&hash=431efceadd4d5011dc0cd41ee15679f999115f9b)
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In fact I just noticed it runs all the way across including under the headlights. I think I am missing this all together!! Ffs.
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oh crap that's some kind of support bar to bolt the bumper onto by the looks of it.
I'll have a look when I get home.
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Kk
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That's the crash bar. The bumper doesn't bolt to it the bumper bolts to the plastic part above the bar
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:surprised: is the bumper support/crash bar missing??? or is the other part above that missing???
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The crash bar is there it's the bit above it which also goes under headlights
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That bit is part of the front panel and you should have a bracket under each headlight
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That's the lock and carrier @TAPPY (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9938) looks like the parts you've described is missing.
From looking closer at your car picture Vwgtiking, the air con rad looks curved inward so maybe a crash damaged vehicle?.
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv56%2Ftappy503%2Fimage.jpg1_2.jpg&hash=7b292dc80c8ff3aba7641d088cf2359fe50c98a0)
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It's the part that's on the slam front panel where the rads fit :happy2:
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9 is the crash bar. I think I need 15??
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15 is the foam sponge.
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Gaea 15 is the foam impact damper
From what your saying you need number 1 (first picture)
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Can you get a pic up of the bumper off tomorrow so we can advise you for definite what you need?
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Can you get a pic up of the bumper off tomorrow so we can advise you for definite what you need?
I couldn't get it off originally. Not sure when I will have time next. Hopefully thurs.
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Can you get a pic up of the bumper off tomorrow so we can advise you for definite what you need?
I couldn't get it off originally. Not sure when I will have time next. Hopefully thurs.
Fair enough mate i will keep an eye out for a pic from you :happy2:
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Call me :stupid: but the 2 screws your having difficulty in finding a mounting point are fixed into this point with the dark shaded circle/squares on the plastic bar below the bonnet lock. This is where the torx screws fit and from what I remember the bumper rests.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag433%2FSandy1786%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FScreenshot_2015-12-22-22-06-30.png&hash=0a0a3117701a3eceac1514528123daa6d7a3e2f3)
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I will remove grill tomorrow as that takes 2 secs and try and get pics.
Found this pic which shows the 2 screws i don't have nor anything to screw into.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F12%2F22%2F84555a7d9ef3faaddb7c89983c023d45.jpg&hash=716565c0d415aa07ed3a4e08eb21555a8d67ad35)
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It makes me think it's had some sort of front end damage but it wasn't written off as I have done vehicle checks which come back clear.
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That bit is part of the front panel and you should have a bracket under each headlight
May need to get the whole lot replaced??
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Sounds like you need a new front panel/lock carrier buddy. Possibly had a small front end damage which wasn't recorded on insurance so it wouldn't show up on checks unless written off. I work as a body fitter in a bodyshop so get involved in these sorts of things all the time :wink:
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How essential is it? I assume ok to drive without?
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What numbers are they and how much do you reckon?
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As long as you have the crash bar on there it should be fine to drive and it's not safety related
I will just log back into parts link and see if I can get a rough price for you
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I know the wing was slightly damaged along with headlight, driver side. And the bonnet has a slight dip in it. But that amount of damaged wouldn't cause anything like that?? I see why they sold it now. Pissed off.
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As long as you have the crash bar on there it should be fine to drive and it's not safety related
I will just log back into parts link and see if I can get a rough price for you
Thanks mate. I may leave it for VW specialists to look at.
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So from what I have found from my chassis number 2005 gti
Part number 1k0805588s
And price on parts link which I believe we use for tps is £230.76
From the damage you described I wouldn't have thought so but it depended where it was hit and how hard buddy
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looks like a complete radiator carrier front panel.
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So from what I have found from my chassis number 2005 gti
Part number 1k0805588s
And price on parts link which I believe we use for tps is £230.76
From the damage you described I wouldn't have thought so but it depended where it was hit and how hard buddy
They are about £60 on eBay for non genuine.
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If you do it yourself don't go for a non genuine 1 as they can sometimes be a pain in the arse
EDIT- they are a pain in the arse 99% of the time
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Found a better pic to show what's missing.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F12%2F22%2F2698e70095ba8b0034e22057e6e621f4.jpg&hash=bac2bcde30d857a7bfaaf552a7b425ea282bcd3d)
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100% you need the front panel/ lock carrier if that bit is missing. Like I say don't get a non gen 1 unless you have time to mess about with it making it fit
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Why is it called a lock carrier? Is this all one piece then? And I can't bolt the bit missing back on?
I will still try and get a pic with bumper off to see if anything else is wrong or missing?
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Make life easy amd type in golf gti mk5 breaking on ebay and ask around for thr part. :happy2:
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Will do bud.
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It's called a front panel but for some reason my work call it a lock carrier so I was giving you both names so you can search under either name lol. Yes it is all 1 piece and you can't bolt that bit in. The part number I put earlier choppy and paste that into Google and look at images for a better pic of it not bolted to a car. Yeah still get a couple of pics as I might be able to see if anything else is missing.(can be harder looking at pics though lol)
EDIT- Even on parts link it's called a lock carrier
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Yes I did say lock carrier :sad1:
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One more question is Thai front panel also part of the pieces I have missing under the headlights? Or they separate?
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Many thanks for your help
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One more question is Thai front panel also part of the pieces I have missing under the headlights? Or they separate?
I can't be 100% sure on that as there is a piece under each headlight which is apart of the front panel but then you need a bumper bracket under the lights which bolt into them. Ahhhh I hope I'm not confusing you now
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Bets thing is get pics up and I will try my best to advise you on what you need to rectify the problem bud
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One more question is Thai front panel also part of the pieces I have missing under the headlights? Or they separate?
plastics under the headlight are separate.
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Follow the orange dots :rolleye:
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Should hopefully get a pic today as local VW specialist said they will put on ramp and remove bumper for me so I can see what's missing and get a pic etc.
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Right. Just been to my VW specialist garage. They didn't take bumper off as didn't have time so no pics. But they spotted the grill is non oem. I didn't notice that. Parts of the slam panel had been cut away. The air con condenser is all bent inwards. Assume rad may also bent as sits behind but can't say until removed. Looks as though the part I am missing was bent inwards into the rads and it was easier to cut off than to repair. Which also explains the non gen grille.
Where is the intercoolers on these cars. Where the damage is just wondering if that could be damaged??
So am on the look out for a rad, air con rad and slam/front panel and poss a gen gti grille
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right - to get the bumper off you need to....
unscrew all the screws underneath the wheel arches and on the undertray.
unscrew and unclip the front grille.
once grille is removed you have a further 2 screws to remove that sits just above the slam panel iirc.
I would recommend you disconnect the fog lights prior to removal.
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Hi mate. Many thanks for reply. But we've already found out how and discovered a host of issues with my gti as per above
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Sorry mate misunderstood thought you still wanted it off. Well at least you know.
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Ahh that's not good buddy. The intercooler on the gti is sandwiched in the middle. So basically from front to back you have condenser then intercooler then rad then fans.
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I had a feeling it was a chop shop job from your picture sent first off.
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I bought a used condenser. Just after the rest. I have noticed anything wrong with intercooler like boost leak and the radiator seems fine but for piece of mind have all the pieces there for fitting then sell on if I don't need them.
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It looks as though something with a tow bar went straight in the middle through the grill push the bar and into the air con. Prob a 4x4 or something. Literally the air con rad is pushed in and bowing. As there no space between each rad and cooler??Hoping the bumper hasn't been replaced with non oem. Good fit if it's rep tho. I have text the person I bought it off and surprise had no reply.
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Ahh that's not good buddy. The intercooler on the gti is sandwiched in the middle. So basically from front to back you have condenser then intercooler then rad then fans.
I have sent you pm asking for part numbers.
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It looks as though something with a tow bar went straight in the middle through the grill push the bar and into the air con. Prob a 4x4 or something. Literally the air con rad is pushed in and bowing. As there no space between each rad and cooler??Hoping the bumper hasn't been replaced with non oem. Good fit if it's rep tho. I have text the person I bought it off and surprise had no reply.
Bowing curved in... my eyes must be good to have seen that. shame though, sad to see someone having such issues and not knowing what's what.
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I know you spotted that well!
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Pm sent buddy sorry I popped out lol
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Bought a used air con rad, rad and intercooler all from one breakers car on eBay. Just need the slam panel now.