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Title: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on December 29, 2015, 05:45:28 pm
I've noticed for the second time recently that the gears seem to hold for longer before switching up. Specifically 3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th. Normally, maintaining the same throttle pressure, the revs will rise to somewhere between 1500 & 2000 before switching up. Today 3rd gear held at 3000+ revs! Driving along a flat road so need to hold lower gear. Same for 4th. It gets brought to my attention by the sound of the engine, almost like it is in sport mode, I even look down to check I'm not in sport! Like I say this happened twice recently.

I'm not sure if it's related, by since I had my main thermostat replaced, I think I can hear a knock/clunk sometimes when I think the gears are changing.

Anyone heard of this?
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: slix on December 29, 2015, 06:43:55 pm
Try a dsg reset/calibration via VCDS if you have access to it?
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on December 29, 2015, 07:17:40 pm
I actually did one about two months ago. Worth doing it again? Also, it has only happened twice in the past two weeks so I wont know if its worked for a while

one thing I noticed before I did the reset was that if I went from neutral to drive, without any throttle it would run in 1st and continue in 1st, but after I did the reset it would switch to 2nd after a minute or two and stay. Not sure.if.its related or I did the reset properly.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: slix on December 29, 2015, 09:05:59 pm
Did you do the relevant runs after? Like keep in a certain rev range in gears 3 and 6 I think it is. And harsh braking and acceleration. All so the clutches re learn the levels.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on December 29, 2015, 10:20:24 pm
I tried my best to, road dependant. Think I did pretty well and did the braking and acceleration etc
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on December 29, 2015, 10:47:24 pm
some weirdness about 3k revs for 5 minutes continuously for both gears.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on December 29, 2015, 11:12:41 pm
Sorry r5gtt come again?
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on December 29, 2015, 11:21:08 pm
Sorry peskyjones, I've read somewhere that you have to remain at around 3000rpm for 5 minutes continuously or it doesn't reset. Thats why I haven't bothered doing this reset. VW told me my 55 reg has the latest dsg software so it doesnt need a reset after forking out £145 for a diagnostic which was a total waste of money as I doubt they did a check.
I feel I have the same issues but haven't told anyone or put a post up as I keep thinking it's my driving style  :stupid:
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on December 30, 2015, 12:39:25 am
Which issue the faint clunk or the holding revs? Does yours do it often?
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Nasir on December 30, 2015, 12:20:42 pm
When it holds the revs next time take your foot completely off the accelerator. This might let the car know that 3rd gear acceleration isn't necessary anymore.

Worst case, hit the paddle and change up to 4th yourself.

Sorry peskyjones, I've read somewhere that you have to remain at around 3000rpm for 5 minutes continuously or it doesn't reset. Thats why I haven't bothered doing this reset. VW told me my 55 reg has the latest dsg software so it doesnt need a reset after forking out £145 for a diagnostic which was a total waste of money as I doubt they did a check.
I feel I have the same issues but haven't told anyone or put a post up as I keep thinking it's my driving style  :stupid:

Pretty sure it'll learn the values by itself if absolutely necessary. See Rosstech Wiki:

"NOTE: If the test drive cannot be performed in the recommended way or the necessary time, any remaining adaptations will be performed automatically during normal driving."
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on December 30, 2015, 12:37:44 pm
Which issue the faint clunk or the holding revs? Does yours do it often?
I feel it holds revs for way too long and I have to change gears myself.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on December 30, 2015, 06:44:17 pm
When it holds the revs next time take your foot completely off the accelerator. This might let the car know that 3rd gear acceleration isn't necessary anymore.

Worst case, hit the paddle and change up to 4th yourself.

Sorry peskyjones, I've read somewhere that you have to remain at around 3000rpm for 5 minutes continuously or it doesn't reset. Thats why I haven't bothered doing this reset. VW told me my 55 reg has the latest dsg software so it doesnt need a reset after forking out £145 for a diagnostic which was a total waste of money as I doubt they did a check.
I feel I have the same issues but haven't told anyone or put a post up as I keep thinking it's my driving style  :stupid:


Pretty sure it'll learn the values by itself if absolutely necessary. See Rosstech Wiki:

"NOTE: If the test drive cannot be performed in the recommended way or the necessary time, any remaining adaptations will be performed automatically during normal driving."

It happened twice today, took my foot off for a considerable amount of time and still no shift

I wonder if its anything to do with brakes, maybe sticking caliper?

Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on December 30, 2015, 07:38:48 pm
As we have a common failure with calipers, there's no harm in jacking each wheel up and checking them.
My car felt okay today as I was driving quite calm. When I put my put down on the pedal it takes a split second and then kicks in so seems okay.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on December 30, 2015, 10:59:15 pm
Is it a common problem? Had no idea
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on December 31, 2015, 11:57:52 am
Getting a health check done at a vw audi specialist for 35 quid, see if they can fix anything inadvertently. Need the health check done anyway
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on December 31, 2015, 10:30:10 pm
any luck?
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on January 02, 2016, 01:09:39 pm
Booked in for the 7th. Happening again today, also after about 2 mins of driving my tyre pressure, abs and Esp light came on. Pulled over, restarted car and they went. Im wondering if these issues have started since I disconnected the battery the other week.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on January 02, 2016, 02:30:13 pm
After checking your tyre pressures you might want to check the abs sensors.
You really need to get yourself vcds and save some money on garage fees.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on January 02, 2016, 02:32:51 pm
My uncles got it and I use it everynow and again. Is it right that the software is free? Might download it on my laptop and just borrow his cable. Think it may be a knock off though, works fine.

How do I check abs sensors
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on January 02, 2016, 02:55:12 pm
as long as you get the correct software it'll be fine  :signLOL:

I had a Chinese knock off for 5 years.  :laugh:

You'll need to go into abs control module on vcds as I think but can't remember now. go to the measuring blocks and a scroll up with numbers and you should see the abs left right etc. 

Hopefully @TAPPY (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9938) will pop in and guide you best  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on January 05, 2016, 03:31:13 pm
Doing it quite regularly now  :fighting: having to resort to switching the gears manually

Seeing as I did a VCDS adaption/reset not so long ago, could this really solve it?
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Kiwi on January 05, 2016, 03:36:57 pm
Doing it quite regularly now  :fighting: having to resort to switching the gears manually

Seeing as I did a VCDS adaption/reset not so long ago, could this really solve it?


When was the last time your DSG from serviced ? New Oil and Filter ? in miles?
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on January 05, 2016, 03:51:07 pm
Doing it quite regularly now  :fighting: having to resort to switching the gears manually

Seeing as I did a VCDS adaption/reset not so long ago, could this really solve it?


When was the last time your DSG from serviced ? New Oil and Filter ? in miles?

earlier half of last year. about 8000 miles ago.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on January 05, 2016, 06:46:15 pm
Let's hope it's not the clutch packs  :sad1:
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: gokgti on January 05, 2016, 06:50:01 pm
when was the box last serviced? always worth getting it to the right temp and checking the oil level
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on January 05, 2016, 07:04:57 pm
What would happen if it were clutch packs? Expensive? Diyable?

Would a good specialist be able to determine it was the clutch packs?
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: r5gtt on January 05, 2016, 07:19:49 pm
Clutch packs are expensive. Not really common on the golf as the ford focus 2011+ plates and it's a beech to replace. Focus clutches start to slip and customers have brought them in for checking so removal is a must although we can also check via ford diagnostics.

Yes someone with dsg knowledge will be able to tell you this.
Title: Re: DSG slow to change gears
Post by: Pesky jones on January 07, 2016, 07:04:46 pm

So back from vw audi tec in chelmsford today. Good specialist, reccomend them. They took it for a test drive and scanned it which showed an abs fault on the rear left wheel. They then span the wheel and read live data and the data was going mad. If its the sensor thats faulty, the data tends to stay in one place. If its the abs strip corroded then the data goes mad, which mine did.

Is it possible the rear wheels will affect the speed recorded, thus throwing the dsg? I assumed it was only front.

Error code 00290
Left rear abs wheel speed sensor
Mechanical malfunction
Intermittent

I have the car booked in on monday 19th for wheel bearing replacement and service, although im thinking I might do the wheel bearing myself if its not too challenging. Although im under the impression a whole new hub is needed as the hub has the bearing built in. Vwauditec did all this for free :) good to talk to and know their stuff