Post by: GTIEagles on January 07, 2016, 01:05:56 pm
Post by: rashg60 on January 07, 2016, 01:41:10 pm
Thinking back now, I'd defo have gone for an Edition 30 if I'd done my research beforehand! The bigger turbo and extra 30 horses is a huge bonus in my book.
I'm sure someone with an Edition 30 will be able to comment on how awesome they actually are.
Post by: pudding on January 07, 2016, 01:46:15 pm
The main reason for buying an Eddy is that engine and the wheels!
Post by: Nasir on January 07, 2016, 02:01:41 pm
Post by: pudding on January 07, 2016, 02:10:01 pm
Even in standard form, the edition 30 pulls much harder at the top end.
Yup. ED30's power band just feels a lot fatter than the GTI's from 3000rpm upwards.
I wouldn't mind a more modern turbo for mine. Same size as the K04, but more efficient compressor and roller bearings etc. Just to get a little more beef below 3000.
Post by: Nasir on January 07, 2016, 02:16:50 pm
Even in standard form, the edition 30 pulls much harder at the top end.
Yup. ED30's power band just feels a lot fatter than the GTI's from 3000rpm upwards.
I wouldn't mind a more modern turbo for mine. Same size as the K04, but more efficient compressor and roller bearings etc. Just to get a little more beef below 3000.
Agreed, however, that being said, the GTIs KO3 turbo is very linear and feels surprisingly natural and spritely.
Post by: Berry on January 07, 2016, 07:58:29 pm
Test drove one though and I agree about the lag...I'm sure it could be mapped to make it feel more linear? And on that topic, a Stage 1 map can, apparently, take you up to 300bhp with the ed30 engine. They're a tad more tunable from stock.
Plus I preferred the seats to both the cloth, and the full leather.
What's your budget, or are you just pondering?
Post by: Mitch H on January 07, 2016, 08:08:23 pm
The ed30's are holding their value really well if it's reasonable mileage and well looked after
Post by: garrardrj on January 07, 2016, 08:55:24 pm
Post by: AJP on January 07, 2016, 09:02:43 pm
@Pudding Have a look at Dan's build here, he's fitted a k03 hybrid turbo with good results. Well north of 300bhp, safely, and minimising lag:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=88732.msg1002464.msg#1002464
I was well aware of the potential of an ed30 before I got my k03 GTI, but I just couldn't stretch the budget enough to get a good one.
Yes, I have spent a bit on BBS VZs, ed30 front, colour coding etc, but even taking that into account I think I'd still be a bit short of proper eddy money.
I like the k03 for what it is. It's never going to be a straight line monster, but on the right road it's so good to drive, especially with a bit of R-Tech magic.
I think if I really wanted to do the k04 (and inevitably beyond) thing, it'd make much more sense to me to go 4wd and DSG.
After going out in Hurdy's 6R, even though it's an extreme example, I can't help thinking much more than 350bhp would be wasted on a 2wd car.
Post by: Mitch H on January 07, 2016, 09:21:13 pm
Lots of good points made here.
@Pudding (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10733) Have a look at Dan's build here, he's fitted a k03 hybrid turbo with good results. Well north of 300bhp, safely, and minimising lag:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=88732.msg1002464.msg#1002464
I was well aware of the potential of an ed30 before I got my k03 GTI, but I just couldn't stretch the budget enough to get a good one.
Yes, I have spent a bit on BBS VZs, ed30 front, colour coding etc, but even taking that into account I think I'd still be a bit short of proper eddy money.
I like the k03 for what it is. It's never going to be a straight line monster, but on the right road it's so good to drive, especially with a bit of R-Tech magic.
I think if I really wanted to do the k04 (and inevitably beyond) thing, it'd make much more sense to me to go 4wd and DSG.
After going out in Hurdy's 6R, even though it's an extreme example, I can't help thinking much more than 350bhp would be wasted on a 2wd car.
Only thing that lets the car down IMO is 2wd in the summer it's great but this last month or so I'm finding it hard to enjoy the car simply because I can't get the power down and I hate driving in the dark which it is when I go to work and come home from work. I didn't plan on usuing my ed30 in the winter really so it doesn't bother me too much tbh
Post by: AJP on January 07, 2016, 09:24:50 pm
Yeah completely agree. I'm only at 240odd bhp but the torque peaks at 300lbft, and you just can't get your foot down in anywhere near a safe way when it's cold, wet and dark.Lots of good points made here.
@Pudding (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10733) Have a look at Dan's build here, he's fitted a k03 hybrid turbo with good results. Well north of 300bhp, safely, and minimising lag:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=88732.msg1002464.msg#1002464
I was well aware of the potential of an ed30 before I got my k03 GTI, but I just couldn't stretch the budget enough to get a good one.
Yes, I have spent a bit on BBS VZs, ed30 front, colour coding etc, but even taking that into account I think I'd still be a bit short of proper eddy money.
I like the k03 for what it is. It's never going to be a straight line monster, but on the right road it's so good to drive, especially with a bit of R-Tech magic.
I think if I really wanted to do the k04 (and inevitably beyond) thing, it'd make much more sense to me to go 4wd and DSG.
After going out in Hurdy's 6R, even though it's an extreme example, I can't help thinking much more than 350bhp would be wasted on a 2wd car.
Only thing that lets the car down IMO is 2wd in the summer it's great but this last month or so I'm finding it hard to enjoy the car simply because I can't get the power down and I hate driving in the dark which it is when I go to work and come home from work. I didn't plan on usuing my ed30 in the winter really so it doesn't bother me too much tbh
Nice to have power 'in reserve' though
Post by: Mitch H on January 07, 2016, 09:29:14 pm
Yeah completely agree. I'm only at 240odd bhp but the torque peaks at 300lbft, and you just can't get your foot down in anywhere near a safe way when it's cold, wet and dark.Lots of good points made here.
@Pudding (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10733) Have a look at Dan's build here, he's fitted a k03 hybrid turbo with good results. Well north of 300bhp, safely, and minimising lag:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=88732.msg1002464.msg#1002464
I was well aware of the potential of an ed30 before I got my k03 GTI, but I just couldn't stretch the budget enough to get a good one.
Yes, I have spent a bit on BBS VZs, ed30 front, colour coding etc, but even taking that into account I think I'd still be a bit short of proper eddy money.
I like the k03 for what it is. It's never going to be a straight line monster, but on the right road it's so good to drive, especially with a bit of R-Tech magic.
I think if I really wanted to do the k04 (and inevitably beyond) thing, it'd make much more sense to me to go 4wd and DSG.
After going out in Hurdy's 6R, even though it's an extreme example, I can't help thinking much more than 350bhp would be wasted on a 2wd car.
Only thing that lets the car down IMO is 2wd in the summer it's great but this last month or so I'm finding it hard to enjoy the car simply because I can't get the power down and I hate driving in the dark which it is when I go to work and come home from work. I didn't plan on usuing my ed30 in the winter really so it doesn't bother me too much tbh
Nice to have power 'in reserve' though
I Tryed having a spirited drive this morning and 1st and 2nd no chance 3rds good if it's a good road surface which in England is not very often lol. I drove my dads rs3 8v yesterday though which makes me want 4wd even more!
Just gunna took the ed30 away and drive my daily. Then the money I save on fuel over winter pile into hardware for stage 2+ to come back better in summer :happy2:
Post by: AJP on January 07, 2016, 09:33:14 pm
Anti-lift kit is on the list...
Post by: Nasir on January 07, 2016, 09:58:53 pm
1st and often 2nd are no chance for me even on a dry road, and that's on Supersports! Think the k03 just comes in so hard that you've lost grip before you even get to the kind of rpm where a k04 shines.
Anti-lift kit is on the list...
Really? I'm easily flat in second on Goodyear F1s.
Post by: AJP on January 07, 2016, 10:02:05 pm
Mapped?1st and often 2nd are no chance for me even on a dry road, and that's on Supersports! Think the k03 just comes in so hard that you've lost grip before you even get to the kind of rpm where a k04 shines.
Anti-lift kit is on the list...
Really? I'm easily flat in second on Goodyear F1s.
Post by: Nasir on January 07, 2016, 11:06:33 pm
Mapped?1st and often 2nd are no chance for me even on a dry road, and that's on Supersports! Think the k03 just comes in so hard that you've lost grip before you even get to the kind of rpm where a k04 shines.
Anti-lift kit is on the list...
Really? I'm easily flat in second on Goodyear F1s.
Oops, no. Is yours mapped?
I've been surprised by the traction the tyres get.
Post by: Mitch H on January 08, 2016, 12:27:28 am
1st and often 2nd are no chance for me even on a dry road, and that's on Supersports! Think the k03 just comes in so hard that you've lost grip before you even get to the kind of rpm where a k04 shines.
Anti-lift kit is on the list...
Alk is a great mod.
I've got Salk and superpro torque bush insert and it helps get the power down a lot. I'm flat in 2nd in the dry.
Post by: dansmith180 on January 08, 2016, 12:56:00 am
1st and often 2nd are no chance for me even on a dry road, and that's on Supersports! Think the k03 just comes in so hard that you've lost grip before you even get to the kind of rpm where a k04 shines.
Anti-lift kit is on the list...
Alk is a great mod.
I've got Salk and superpro torque bush insert and it helps get the power down a lot. I'm flat in 2nd in the dry.
Does it really make a lot of difference? Ive already got a vibra technics lower gearbox mount and polybushed front wishbones but have been looking at ALK's, need help getting the new ponies down.
Post by: AJP on January 08, 2016, 07:35:06 am
Yes, R-Tech Stage 1. Makes a hell of a difference, I gained about 70lb/ft if I remember correctly!Mapped?1st and often 2nd are no chance for me even on a dry road, and that's on Supersports! Think the k03 just comes in so hard that you've lost grip before you even get to the kind of rpm where a k04 shines.
Anti-lift kit is on the list...
Really? I'm easily flat in second on Goodyear F1s.
Oops, no. Is yours mapped?
I've been surprised by the traction the tyres get.
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 08, 2016, 09:46:22 pm
Post by: pudding on January 11, 2016, 01:51:43 pm
Lots of good points made here.
@Pudding (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10733) Have a look at Dan's build here, he's fitted a k03 hybrid turbo with good results. Well north of 300bhp, safely, and minimising lag:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=88732.msg1002464.msg#1002464
Interesting! I hadn't considered dropping down to the K03. Great numbers too!
Post by: AJP on January 11, 2016, 01:56:12 pm
In which case just stick with it. I don't think you can have k04 top end with k03 response. The hybrid sounds good, but ultimately it'd be a step down in (peak) power for you.
Post by: DANBOY66 on January 11, 2016, 02:05:21 pm
Post by: pudding on January 11, 2016, 02:08:11 pm
Post by: Mitch H on January 11, 2016, 10:45:56 pm
Yeah K04. Don't get me wrong, I love the midrange and top end but it's a pretty laggy beast below 3000rpm. Then again, that's probably not such a bad thing given the traction issues with these cars!Who uses below 3000rpm :confused: ;)
Post by: gokgti on January 11, 2016, 10:56:29 pm
Just like a mk4 anniversary all they need in reality is a 30mm drop some spacers and keeping split mint, resale value is brilliant and always has been apart from the initial drop. Future classic! even on a stage 1 tune i think they are one of the most underestimated cars on the road!
Extra funds allowing id happily have an edition 30 over my stage 2 GTi just on looks alone, especially red or grey.
Post by: Mitch H on January 11, 2016, 11:12:17 pm
I think power aside, the edition 30's are an awesome choice. Look miles fresher cosmetically! wheels suit the car to a T.
Just like a mk4 anniversary all they need in reality is a 30mm drop some spacers and keeping split mint, resale value is brilliant and always has been apart from the initial drop. Future classic! even on a stage 1 tune i think they are one of the most underestimated cars on the road!
Extra funds allowing id happily have an edition 30 over my stage 2 GTi just on looks alone, especially red or grey.
Or black ;) Probs fav thing about my ed30 is people think it's 'just a golf' in there words.
Then you tell them it's 340bhp :laugh: and your aiming for more in the summer :D
My brothers just bought one too now :) brilliant car and will hold there money as well as virtually anything else you could buy
Post by: pudding on January 12, 2016, 03:02:57 pm
Yeah a mapped ED30 just isn't what people expect from a humble Golf! MK7 Rs are no bother.... in a straight line at least.....and once rolling, lol
Post by: Greenman on January 12, 2016, 03:09:38 pm
I think power aside, the edition 30's are an awesome choice. Look miles fresher cosmetically! wheels suit the car to a T.
Just like a mk4 anniversary all they need in reality is a 30mm drop some spacers and keeping split mint, resale value is brilliant and always has been apart from the initial drop. Future classic! even on a stage 1 tune i think they are one of the most underestimated cars on the road!
Extra funds allowing id happily have an edition 30 over my stage 2 GTi just on looks alone, especially red or grey.
Or black ;) Probs fav thing about my ed30 is people think it's 'just a golf' in there words.
Then you tell them it's 340bhp :laugh: and your aiming for more in the summer :D
My brothers just bought one too now :) brilliant car and will hold there money as well as virtually anything else you could buy
A mate in his BMW 330CI said "it's just a golf" to me on the weekend. Once i had stopped to wait for him to catch up i asked him if he still thinks "it's just a golf"...;)
Post by: Mitch H on January 12, 2016, 06:11:18 pm
BMW drivers are the worst for itI think power aside, the edition 30's are an awesome choice. Look miles fresher cosmetically! wheels suit the car to a T.
Just like a mk4 anniversary all they need in reality is a 30mm drop some spacers and keeping split mint, resale value is brilliant and always has been apart from the initial drop. Future classic! even on a stage 1 tune i think they are one of the most underestimated cars on the road!
Extra funds allowing id happily have an edition 30 over my stage 2 GTi just on looks alone, especially red or grey.
Or black ;) Probs fav thing about my ed30 is people think it's 'just a golf' in there words.
Then you tell them it's 340bhp :laugh: and your aiming for more in the summer :D
My brothers just bought one too now :) brilliant car and will hold there money as well as virtually anything else you could buy
A mate in his BMW 330CI said "it's just a golf" to me on the weekend. Once i had stopped to wait for him to catch up i asked him if he still thinks "it's just a golf"...;)
Post by: Mitch H on January 12, 2016, 06:12:37 pm
Ive been a happy owner of my stage 2 Rtech mapped ED30 for nearly 7 years, and refuse to sell it knowing just had good these cars are.
There is very little out there that can match its all round capabilities , I've had 2 standard mk5 GTis previously to this one, and wouldn't go for a normal version again.
This car is that good that I'm toying with either buying a White Ed35 for the wife to replace her car or another Ed30 and keep that one standard....... Futile but I'll try and keep to my word of not modding it aswell.
I think the rarity of the Ed35 will also have great residual into the future too.
How many ed35's were made? Iknow the mk6 r seems pretty rare don't see many for sale. Seems like cars are only released 2 minutes these days before the manufacturers are bringing the next one out!
Post by: seiko on January 12, 2016, 07:22:43 pm
Who's done it? and was it worth it?!done the move 4 years ago from a golf gti satage 1 revo to a edition 30 stage 1 revo, had the gti up for sale for three months before it sold and drove them back to back, the gti was so more point and squirt hardly any lag but did run out of puff around 5300rpm ,
the ed30 is more laggy, you just have to learn to drive it at the right rpm, pulls all the way to the red line in every gear, the ed 30 does look better than the gti and keeps its value , but if i had my time again would go for a wel specked gti stage 1 maped, it is a real all round belter :happy2: