MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: VC on January 04, 2010, 03:16:19 pm
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anyone done it? is there a definitive guide to creating a lineout? :happy2:
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There are lineouts shown on the back LO-R, LO-L and the Earth.
Never done it or seen it done. It might be down to you being a Pie 'n' Ear VC. :wink:
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anyone done it? is there a definitive guide to creating a lineout? :happy2:
Can you get a picture of the rear of the rns?! Just want to see what Hedge is refering to...
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i want to get the pie out and an rns in its place :grin:
but fear the loss of the sub, and i simply dont understand the witchcraft that is car/audio electrics
i'll get up in the loft later and take a shot of the back of the rns
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I have a sub and amp run from my RNS510 unit, i had to buy an adapter for the back of the unit not sure what it does but i think it enables an RCA to be run from the back of the unit.
I had it done at Source Sounds in Sheffield: 0114 2571550
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Probably quite simple to make your own lead.
Use the connections on the back, connected with a couple of repair wires and soldered into some RCA type female connectors.
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Or this little baby -
http://www.sextonsdirect.co.uk/ict/p~30-108.html?cat=0
From another website -
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmultisort.pl%2Fu%2Fe%2F6%2F6%2Fe66d9463ba03e267eef9251dc7fa856e%2F640x_CAR-AUX_VWLO.jpg&hash=476dfe6332095c1ed6ba480b4b5f0e1aa4d7d1cf)
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8 quid = bargain. :smiley:
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Or this little baby -
http://www.sextonsdirect.co.uk/ict/p~30-108.html?cat=0
From another website -
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmultisort.pl%2Fu%2Fe%2F6%2F6%2Fe66d9463ba03e267eef9251dc7fa856e%2F640x_CAR-AUX_VWLO.jpg&hash=476dfe6332095c1ed6ba480b4b5f0e1aa4d7d1cf)
^^^ that looks to be within my skillset :smiley:
soldering and physically making one isnt an option for me...if i actually want it to work :laugh:
so that is something i can simply plug into the back or the rns and then add the cables that are currently in addition going into the back of my pioneer?
thankyou for the link btw :happy2:
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The only 'difficulty' might be that you already have a plug in that location so you need to swap the wires from one plug to another. Pretty simple tbh.
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cool, gunna order one and then panic about the next stage when it arrives :drinking:
EDIT: £5.99 delivery! :stupid: does is come gift wrapped in gold leaf :chicken:
must only be a small jiffy envelope surely
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EDIT: £5.99 delivery! :stupid: does is come gift wrapped in gold leaf :chicken:
must only be a small jiffy envelope surely
Its because its going all the way to Cornwalland. :wink:
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Bugger, i sold my amp and sub on Sunday because i didnt think it was possible to run an amp off the RNS.
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One problem with that connector is it doesn't have a remote amp output, so although you can get an RCA signal out of the unit you have no way of turning the amp on with the stereo. You could get around this by wiring the remote input on the amp to some sort of switched +12V when you fit it, but it's not a great solution. I used a Line Output converter with a remote amp output to hook up an amp to my RNS-510 and the results are really impressive, but it is a bit of a fiddly job...
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If you spliced into the connector labelled amp in Monte's photo here:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10662.msg163296#msg163296
Would that give you a remote swtich for the amp?
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Hmm, interesting as that pin is listed as "Display voltage supply, positive, optional for radio module low version only" in my pin diagram, which could well mean that it will provide a positive voltage for a remote output, I would need to test it with a multimeter to be sure though.
This is a neat solution, if I had seen this adaptor before I fitted my RNS-510 I may well have used it rather than messing about with a Line Output Converter, although I am pleased with the results that solution is giving me now.
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If you do get round to checking it let me know please.
My thoughts about that pin location was that that was the switch for the models with the optional amp.
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Yep, which makes sense if it's essentially just outputting remote amp 12V signal whilst the stereo is on.
Don't know when I'll next have the stereo out of the car, but I'll definitely check this when I do.
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I'm running a Blaupunkt THA555 PnP five channel power amplifier with a 12" sub in mine and it sounds superb. Actually one of the best mods ive done. See here: http://www.bluespot.co.uk/stock/amplifier_4.asp
Not cheap, but if like me you just like things to work, it's well worth the money.
Some pics
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fe58%2Fwinrya%2FIMG_1855.jpg&hash=718910d4804a29afea285646c7358641fc1ce1c7)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fe58%2Fwinrya%2FIMG_1870.jpg&hash=52ddea3f34b2638e5e15d91d74e97b012ad6c66c)
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I agree it is a neat solution, my only issue with those Blaupunkt PnP amps is that they are only Class D units and £300 is an awful lot of money to spend on a class D amp. That said, it's an excellent solution if you just want something simple that is easy to install and will just work.
At the moment I'm using a Genesis Profile Four which is a Class AB amplifier and really does sound lovely, it costs about the same as the Blaupunkt you have, but IMHO there is a huge difference in sound quality between the two units. This is why I persevered with creating a custom PnP harness with a built-in Line Output Converter.
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=383&Itemid=54 (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=383&Itemid=54)
There is a place for both approaches of course and I can honestly understand the appeal of those Blaupunkt units, but it is nice to have the choice to run a higher quality amp if sound quality is very important to the user.
My amp and sub look like this at the moment (the sub was taken out of an old car and is probably too big for the Golf, sounds okay though):
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg237.imageshack.us%2Fimg237%2F3883%2Fdsc0031b.jpg&hash=12aaf0f354c850a9979e665fc25bb5605055d768)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg237.imageshack.us%2Fimg237%2F2835%2Fdsc0025us.jpg&hash=2aee0a89dcb28fee9d0688344dfe90e56355314a)
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mclovin, dude... do you fancy making something that a simpleton like me can simply plug and play?
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I could probably knock up a cable that would make life easier if you wanted to plug in an amp and so on. I like the idea of using the dedicated audio outputs rather than a Line Output Converter so I'll look into that further, but my concern is that it uses output pins in a block that is probably already being used, so you would need to move connector pins between the blocks which is fiddly and hardly plug and play.
The problem is that everyone has different set ups, some have Bluetooth, some have the MDI and so on plus that Quadlock connector on the back of your stereo gets very crowded very quickly so there isn't really a one size fits all solution, which is why I took the time to write up the guide to making your own PnP harness. I suppose I could knock up custom harnesses for a reasonable price but I am a busy professional and I really don't know how I'd find the time to do very many...
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ah well no worries, couldnt hurt to ask :ashamed: :drinking:
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Ok bought one of these from Sextons Direct and got round to fitting it yesterday.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs337%2FRobGTIPhotos%2F31Kg8DQrIwL.jpg&hash=e7808bf1fff896a8cd8df2c7a0183c3590bb2b88)
Got me a switched live from this guide here:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=40936.0
The amp power ups fine using the switched live so all is good there. However there is no sound from the sub, well it buzzes quietly. I checked the RCA and tried different ones still no joy, so got me thinking is the lead the right one??
If you look at the wiring info on the back of the RNS
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs337%2FRobGTIPhotos%2F27032009152-1.jpg&hash=928865f6778fd0708e80003d5b3fc86a90502eae)
(Monte I used your photo from another thread hope thats ok?)
You can see that the pins to which the Line Out Convertor is attached refers to "Mic in" and "Mic Out" this surely can't be right. Anyone got any ideas as want to put the car back together??
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Ok so the part in my post is definnately will not give you a line out signal for your amp / sub, that part will give you a line into the RNS only.
The part you need is this:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs337%2FRobGTIPhotos%2FphpThumb_generated_thumbnail.jpg&hash=7777129ea972dff05a513a04e4d20bf474e23e09)
Autoleads PC1 610
I also used a SOT harness (similar to McLovin's thread) as well which is basically an extension cable for the car's original harness which you can tap into rather than the cars wiring so when you want to remove no one knows you've tocuhed it.
And hey presto I've now got a sub and amp connected to my RNS510. Nice.