MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Rampage on February 07, 2016, 05:55:57 pm
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Hi all, after a bit of advice for my sick ED30 DSG (56 plate)...
Drove home today and when reversing into a car space, I noticed it lost drive. The gears on the dashboards were flashing. Managed to get the lever back into 'Park' and now it will not move out of Park anymore. In fact, the only way I could get the key out of the ignition was to disconnect the battery. If I try to turn the ignition as normal, nothing happens at all. I have to leave it in ignition position 1 for a few seconds and then try and engage the starter for it to then fire up.
I have given it time and then tried again to see if the box thinks it's finished its driving cycle and reset, but alas, not a chance.
A few days ago, when switching from manual mode to auto, the lights started flashing. I put it back into manual and then auto again and it went back to normal. Other than that one time, it has been driving faultlessly.
Having a quick look on the net, aside from possible mechatronics, maybe it's the gear selector?
The options I can think of are:
1) See if any member in South London has Vagcom. Will home Vagcom be able to diagnose the problem though or does it need VW or specialist to diagnose?
2) Get it to VW Bromley for diagnosis. Would VW uk give some goodwill?
Guessing the car would need a 'full lift' to get it there? Anyone know rough ideas of cost for approx 6 miles?
Sorry for long message but I'm lost at what to do. Help!
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I wouldn't go to VW. I'd try and find an independent gearbox specialist near you if possible. It will be nowhere near the prices vw charge. You are looking at about 2k plus if it's just the mechatronic unit, or more likely 5k plus if vw say you need a whole new box. There's a place not too far from you in Rochester called BBA-reman. Also vw will probably charge you about £70 just for plugging it in for a diagnostic.
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I asked the dealers if my dsg failed what would it cost to replace and they said there would only be good will if the cars been fully serviced by VW as I was quoted £1750 for the dsg mechatronic replacement only. Box was £4000 iirc.
When was the dsg last serviced?.
I was charged £145 plugging in.
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http://www.bba-reman.com/catalogue/DetailedProduct.aspx?DetailedProduct=1857
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Please don't trust the above company bba recrap as they screwed my tt cluster and sent it back to me even worse than it was. I repaired it myself in the end.
There's a guy in Gloucestershire that's well recommended. can't remember if I saved the address but if you want it pm me and I'll try and source it for you.
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Please don't trust the above company bba recrap as they screwed my tt cluster and sent it back to me even worse than it was. I repaired it myself in the end.
There's a guy in Gloucestershire that's well recommended. can't remember if I saved the address but if you want it pm me and I'll try and source it for you.
Oh really? Good to know lol. Just have a load of people bookmarked in case the worst happens. :laugh:
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Please don't trust the above company bba recrap as they screwed my tt cluster and sent it back to me even worse than it was. I repaired it myself in the end.
There's a guy in Gloucestershire that's well recommended. can't remember if I saved the address but if you want it pm me and I'll try and source it for you.
Oh really? Good to know lol. Just have a load of people bookmarked in case the worst happens. :laugh:
I'm the same with book marks :signLOL:but not those clowns for certain £130 with a worse off cluster but this is a DSG mechatronic unit. I'll find out another company not to go to as there's a car forsale in the forsale section that's supposed to have had it done a service on it but they failed to repair the mechatronic unit so it had to come out again :scared: imagine the mechanic replacing it and having to remove it again :congrats: to him. oh and guess what??? after contacting them again they'd changed hands so it's a new owner now apparently when this go wrong people change owners and keep the same name :wink:
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I've got a Rosstech VCDS Hex + Can, which will do all the diagnostics you need to find out whats wrong with your car. I'll do it for free, but I live in Barking, East London. You're welcome to come and get it done if you like.
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Never used this company, but the Internet says they've done a lot of mechatronic units. £300 for the mechatronic rebuilt. Then whatever it costs you to have the it removed and refitted.
http://www.ecutesting.com/catalogue/volkswagen_eculist.html?category=4054&model=448
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Thanks everyone, really appreciate the replies :happy2:
My problem is that I cannot get the car into gear, so for it to go to a specialist, it would need to be towed. As its DSG, I guess that's a full lift :sad1:
Zayed, thanks for your very kind offer mate, but the car won't move unfortunately.
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Thanks Nasir, I think I've read about them before too. Def an option if the mechatronics have had it. Would really like to try and get it scanned if possible. I'm hoping my guardian angel will see to it that it's just the gear selector module, which looking on the net is relatively common too.
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Never used this company, but the Internet says they've done a lot of mechatronic units. £300 for the mechatronic rebuilt. Then whatever it costs you to have the it removed and refitted.
http://www.ecutesting.com/catalogue/volkswagen_eculist.html?category=4054&model=448
That's the other company that sent back the faulty mechatronic unit so I wouldn't bother guys!!! One finger salute to these rip off companies :angry015:
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Someone may vcds vagcom it for a cost of fuel perhaps ?.
Where are you located?.
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Oh blimey really?
Might look to see if VGS in Keston do gearboxes.
In Crystal Palace south London mate.
Noticed that someone with a black ED30 has moved in round the corner. If I swap number plates, do you think they will notice? :signLOL:
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You'll also need the keys or claim the key as lost to your insurance company :laugh: :driver:
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Oh blimey really?
Might look to see if VGS in Keston do gearboxes.
In Crystal Palace south London mate.
Noticed that someone with a black ED30 has moved in round the corner. If I swap number plates, do you think they will notice? :signLOL:
VGS is Keston are superb. Peter, who runs his own mk5 gti KO4 conversion DSG, did loads of work on my previous gti. I could not recommend them more highly.
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Oh blimey really?
Might look to see if VGS in Keston do gearboxes.
In Crystal Palace south London mate.
Noticed that someone with a black ED30 has moved in round the corner. If I swap number plates, do you think they will notice? :signLOL:
VGS is Keston are superb. Peter, who runs his own mk5 gti KO4 conversion DSG, did loads of work on my previous gti. I could not recommend them more highly.
Would agree with you there mate. They done a major service + cambelt and a few other bits n bobs last year. Their work and communication was top notch. Picked and dropped the car off too. :happy2:
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Sounds good and always best to get recommendations from others :happy2:
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But do they deal with DSG Boxes?
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They do diagnostics, so hopefully can do a mobile service with any luck
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Depends on what the call out charge would be I guess.
I'd do a diag for £30 :ashamed:
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Depends on what the call out charge would be I guess.
I'd do a diag for £30 :ashamed:
Cheers mate, I'll PM you :happy2:
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Depends on what the call out charge would be I guess.
I'd do a diag for £30 :ashamed:
Cheers mate, I'll PM you :happy2:
Replied :smiley:
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Isn't there anyone local to Rampage that will do it FOC as there must be someone local him with vcds ???
check this out Rampage
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,88875.0.html
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Isn't there anyone local to Rampage that will do it FOC as there must be someone local him with vcds ???
check this out Rampage
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,88875.0.html
Thanks mate, not many people still active in S.London it seems. Will give @DanGB (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=228) a shout and see if he is available. Thanks again, you are a diamond! :happy2:
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Hopefully it's just needs a reset
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Isn't there anyone local to Rampage that will do it FOC as there must be someone local him with vcds ???
check this out Rampage
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,88875.0.html
Thanks mate, not many people still active in S.London it seems. Will give @DanGB (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=228) a shout and see if he is available. Thanks again, you are a diamond! :happy2:
Not a problem Rampage :driver: I drive a dsg too so I'd hate to be in your situation and no one to help me if I were to get stuck with something I couldn't figure out. :sad1:
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Hopefully it's just needs a reset
Fingers and toes... well everything crossed that that's it! (Prays)
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I guess you could always join RAC / Green Flag etc and give it a couple of days before being recovered to a specialist of your choice ?
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This happened to a mate of mine a few months back.... Turned out to be some sort of gear selection/position sensor inside the gearbox
Similar symptoms as you've described with the gear indicator flashing - basically the car didn't know what gear it was in. His was a TDI Passat though with the stupid key fob thing that you push in to start the car...... His wouldn't start due to the fault
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This happened to a mate of mine a few months back.... Turned out to be some sort of gear selection/position sensor inside the gearbox
Similar symptoms as you've described with the gear indicator flashing - basically the car didn't know what gear it was in. His was a TDI Passat though with the stupid key fob thing that you push in to start the car...... His wouldn't start due to the fault
I'm praying that's it mate!
Patrick: good point mate, I do have green flag cover as part of my bank account. That could be a good option if the worst comes to the worst and it's completely shagged.
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@r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199) is an angel sent from heaven!!! I cannot thank him enough. A real nice fellow to boot! :happy2: :congrats:
Initial scans showed no signal malfunction in gear selector if I remember correctly. After these were cleared, fault 02413 - Switch for selector Lever Position P Lock (F319) 008 - implausible signal - intermittent came up.
He then took off the gear gaiter and pressed in the yellow plastic clip, which unlocked the gear stick. No more flashing lights and the code cleared and did not come back. Took it for a drive and all is well again :pomppomp:
Seems like it just got stuck? Will keep an eye on it but thanks again @r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199)
:happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
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Great to hear, you must be relieved :congrats:
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Relief isn't the word mate!!! :jumpmove:
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I'm actually glad I sorted whatever the problem was :jumping:
If I hadn't have opened the gear lever cover and pushed the release mechanism we'd still be sitting there thinking the mechatronic unit is foobard and may have just been an early warning sign to say mate I'm going soon so be ready when I do as you'll know what to do if this happens :signLOL:
Glad you've got your beauty back on the road and it does look and sound great and not not really a person who likes red as bad luck colour for me and the two red cars I did have :happy2:
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I'm actually glad I sorted whatever the problem was :jumping:
If I hadn't have opened the gear lever cover and pushed the release mechanism we'd still be sitting there thinking the mechatronic unit is foobard and may have just been an early warning sign to say mate I'm going soon so be ready when I do as you'll know what to do if this happens :signLOL:
Glad you've got your beauty back on the road and it does look and sound great and not not really a person who likes red as bad luck colour for me and the two red cars I did have :happy2:
Thank god that you did! Just ordered some trim removal tools just in case :happy2:
Thanks mate, she's a bit dirty for my liking at the mo, although this weather is a nightmare. Usually always keep her looking super shiny!
Thanks again mate, you are a real diamond!!! :drinking:
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I'm actually glad I sorted whatever the problem was :jumping:
If I hadn't have opened the gear lever cover and pushed the release mechanism we'd still be sitting there thinking the mechatronic unit is foobard and may have just been an early warning sign to say mate I'm going soon so be ready when I do as you'll know what to do if this happens :signLOL:
Glad you've got your beauty back on the road and it does look and sound great and not not really a person who likes red as bad luck colour for me and the two red cars I did have :happy2:
Thank god that you did! Just ordered some trim removal tools just in case :happy2:
Thanks mate, she's a bit dirty for my liking at the mo, although this weather is a nightmare. Usually always keep her looking super shiny!
Thanks again mate, you are a real diamond!!! :drinking:
Yeah those trim tools do come in handy as I didn't have any finger nails to open it with :signLOL: I try to keep mime clean but you know how this weather I'd lol nearly blew me away today.
Take care and keep in touch :drinking:
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I'm actually glad I sorted whatever the problem was :jumping:
If I hadn't have opened the gear lever cover and pushed the release mechanism we'd still be sitting there thinking the mechatronic unit is foobard and may have just been an early warning sign to say mate I'm going soon so be ready when I do as you'll know what to do if this happens :signLOL:
Glad you've got your beauty back on the road and it does look and sound great and not not really a person who likes red as bad luck colour for me and the two red cars I did have :happy2:
Great job there mate for helping another fellow forum member.
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I'm actually glad I sorted whatever the problem was :jumping:
If I hadn't have opened the gear lever cover and pushed the release mechanism we'd still be sitting there thinking the mechatronic unit is foobard and may have just been an early warning sign to say mate I'm going soon so be ready when I do as you'll know what to do if this happens :signLOL:
Glad you've got your beauty back on the road and it does look and sound great and not not really a person who likes red as bad luck colour for me and the two red cars I did have :happy2:
Great job there mate for helping another fellow forum member.
Thanks numec, glad to help and know we resolved the issue and probable cause. :smiley:
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I'm actually glad I sorted whatever the problem was :jumping:
If I hadn't have opened the gear lever cover and pushed the release mechanism we'd still be sitting there thinking the mechatronic unit is foobard and may have just been an early warning sign to say mate I'm going soon so be ready when I do as you'll know what to do if this happens :signLOL:
Glad you've got your beauty back on the road and it does look and sound great and not not really a person who likes red as bad luck colour for me and the two red cars I did have :happy2:
Great job there mate for helping another fellow forum member.
Seconded ^^^^^
He really did go out of his way to come and help me!
@r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199) Good luck with the new job fella!!! :happy2:
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I'm actually glad I sorted whatever the problem was :jumping:
If I hadn't have opened the gear lever cover and pushed the release mechanism we'd still be sitting there thinking the mechatronic unit is foobard and may have just been an early warning sign to say mate I'm going soon so be ready when I do as you'll know what to do if this happens :signLOL:
Glad you've got your beauty back on the road and it does look and sound great and not not really a person who likes red as bad luck colour for me and the two red cars I did have :happy2:
Great job there mate for helping another fellow forum member.
Seconded ^^^^^
He really did go out of his way to come and help me!
@r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199) Good luck with the new job fella!!! :happy2:
Cheers Rampage.
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@r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199) is an angel sent from heaven!!! I cannot thank him enough. A real nice fellow to boot! :happy2: :congrats:
Initial scans showed no signal malfunction in gear selector if I remember correctly. After these were cleared, fault 02413 - Switch for selector Lever Position P Lock (F319) 008 - implausible signal - intermittent came up.
He then took off the gear gaiter and pressed in the yellow plastic clip, which unlocked the gear stick. No more flashing lights and the code cleared and did not come back. Took it for a drive and all is well again :pomppomp:
Seems like it just got stuck? Will keep an eye on it but thanks again @r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199)
:happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
Karma will reward you hopefully r5gtt :drinking:
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@GTI8v (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11730) let's hope so thanks :drinking:
Come on summer time let's have a meet :grin: