MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: ollie288 on January 05, 2010, 11:25:06 pm
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I have just purchased a R32 rear bumper. I own a 1.6 FSI. I want an R32 style exhaust to go with the bumper but I do not want a chavy sounding car. I dont want the car to be doing 20mph but sound like it is taking off. I would like maybe a deeper note (if possible). I would like it to sound like either close to a decent meaty car (unsure if this is possible with just an exhaust I doubt it) if not close to stock just a little deeper and louder. I would love it if I could get the burrbling (i made that up) noise of a GTI on tick over :signLOL:
I know I cannot just buy an R32 exhaust because it wont fit my car. So I typed in custom exhaust on google and powerflow came up. Has anyone heard anything about these? Or know of anyone better to go for?
Also what size tips are the standard? I want slightly bigger as I think they look better when they fill the recesses better!
Sorry for all the questions!
Any help appreciated.
Cheers
Ollie :happy2:
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I have just purchased a R32 rear bumper. I own a 1.6 FSI. I want an R32 style exhaust to go with the bumper but I do not want a chavy sounding car. I dont want the car to be doing 20mph but sound like it is taking off. I would like maybe a deeper note (if possible). I would like it to sound like either close to a decent meaty car (unsure if this is possible with just an exhaust I doubt it) if not close to stock just a little deeper and louder. I would love it if I could get the burrbling (i made that up) noise of a GTI on tick over :signLOL:
I know I cannot just buy an R32 exhaust because it wont fit my car. So I typed in custom exhaust on google and powerflow came up. Has anyone heard anything about these? Or know of anyone better to go for?
Also what size tips are the standard? I want slightly bigger as I think they look better when they fill the recesses better!
Sorry for all the questions!
Any help appreciated.
Cheers
Ollie :happy2:
GTI's burble on tickover? They might rumble a little with a new exhust, but no real burble. Just fit a new backbox, you will probably need to custom though.
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Saw a vid on youtube with a gti with exhaust and other mods (dont know what). I mean it kinda varied noise and sound levels not flat like my car. Ill try to find the vid.
Yes it will need to be custom due to the r32 not fitting.
Will it be possible to make it sound deeper and sporty without chavy do you think?
Im going to phone that powerflow in the morning and see what they say!
Cheers :happy2:
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Saw a vid on youtube with a gti with exhaust and other mods (dont know what). I mean it kinda varied noise not flat like my car. Ill try to find the vid.
Yes it will need to be custom due to the r32 not fitting.
Will it be possible to make it sound deeper and sporty without chavy do you think?
Im going to phone that powerflow in the morning and see what they say!
Cheers :happy2:
Powerflow have loads of different back boxes instock and you can have a listen to several different setups to achieve the sound you want. Just try to keep the same diameter pipework though if you get it done by them mate ;)
Mate of mine had his hyundai coupe 1.6 done by powerflow and that sure did sound the nuts. It sounded really really nice, and no one would have guessed by the exhaust note that it was only a 1.6
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So powerflow are a reputable company then. It's is the backbox that varies the sound? Is there any need to replace the whole pipe from the manifold or is there no benefit? I noticed when looking under the car the other day that there is black marks around the middle section on a joint. Somebody mentioned that it may be blowing? :confused: Is that a sign of that or is it normal?
Why do you say keep the same diameter?
Cheers mate :smiley:
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Also does anyone know where I can get the carbon fiber rear valance?
Cheers :smiley:
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So powerflow are a reputable company then. It's is the backbox that varies the sound? Is there any need to replace the whole pipe from the manifold or is there no benefit? I noticed when looking under the car the other day that there is black marks around the middle section on a joint. Somebody mentioned that it may be blowing? :confused: Is that a sign of that or is it normal?
Why do you say keep the same diameter?
Cheers mate :smiley:
They always scorch around that joint.
The backbox is the main part in changing the sound. Basically the size and the amount. Some run straight through pipes which sound the nuts on the right cars. Alot of people slag off powerflow, but my mate always went with them.
You want to retain the same diameter to avoid any risk of loosing power. Complete straight through pipes might loose any necessary backpressure also which your car might need.
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OK, here it comes............ POWERFLOW ARE CR@P (imo)
Had 2 in the past and my brother is currently running one, they are what all the chavs get on the 106's and the like, they are have a certain low down boom drone, they look sh*te after about 6 months as they are stain-less steel (whatever that means)
How much are you wanting to spend and where are you based? would bluflame not do a custom back box for your car as thats where id be spending my hard earned, then youl get tails like TC's and they can tune the sound to your liking.
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Also does anyone know where I can get the carbon fiber rear valance?
Cheers :smiley:
....Mk5 R32 configuration? - The TTshop, Bedford. Made by OSIR - Excellent quality.
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OK, here it comes............ POWERFLOW ARE CR@P (imo)
Had 2 in the past and my brother is currently running one, they are what all the chavs get on the 106's and the like, they are have a certain low down boom drone, they look sh*te after about 6 months as they are stain-less steel (whatever that means)
How much are you wanting to spend and where are you based? would bluflame not do a custom back box for your car as thats where id be spending my hard earned, then youl get tails like TC's and they can tune the sound to your liking.
You say they are crap because "chavs" go in and ask for an exhaust louder than the noise the moon would make if it crashed into the earth. They can be good if you specify what you want i.e just the backbox, keep the pipes the same size, and dont get excited by stupid loud exhausts they also sell.
I have seen 2 powerflow exhausts done to a very good quality and sounds oem+, just my 2p
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nice timing on this thread.as i,m saving hard for a similar thing.i,m prob going blueflame but i keep thinking there must be a cheaper option for me. i know you get what you pay for and i have no doubt that its bluey i want.....would it be cheaper/more sense to get a custom one made-where would i start to look for a local compay that offers that service?
and blueflame does offer lifetime guarantee,thats a def plus for me!!
i cant justify the carbon from osir at this present moment-i know TC got his from guy in germany but i think it was similar money.
or i,m gonna get one from a stealer-about 85 notes and get it wrapped untill i can afford the real deal.
the ebay ones from china are about 130 plus 30 ish for delivery.
anyone else got an input???
joe-are they crap in quality or is it just the type of exhaust that people buy from them and what they do with them?
matsu
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So powerflow are a reputable company then. It's is the backbox that varies the sound? Is there any need to replace the whole pipe from the manifold or is there no benefit? I noticed when looking under the car the other day that there is black marks around the middle section on a joint. Somebody mentioned that it may be blowing? :confused: Is that a sign of that or is it normal?
Why do you say keep the same diameter?
Cheers mate :smiley:
They always scorch around that joint.
The backbox is the main part in changing the sound. Basically the size and the amount. Some run straight through pipes which sound the nuts on the right cars. Alot of people slag off powerflow, but my mate always went with them.
You want to retain the same diameter to avoid any risk of loosing power. Complete straight through pipes might loose any necessary backpressure also which your car might need.
Ahhh I see. Thanks for the info. :happy2:
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OK, here it comes............ POWERFLOW ARE CR@P (imo)
Had 2 in the past and my brother is currently running one, they are what all the chavs get on the 106's and the like, they are have a certain low down boom drone, they look sh*te after about 6 months as they are stain-less steel (whatever that means)
How much are you wanting to spend and where are you based? would bluflame not do a custom back box for your car as thats where id be spending my hard earned, then youl get tails like TC's and they can tune the sound to your liking.
Thanks mate. What did you specify when you had one? That is the exact opposite sound of what I want. Have do you mean they look sh*te? What happens to them?
Im unsure of what I want to spend. I dont know what prices to expect! I have heard that blueflames are expensive around £1000? Would I really need that on a 1.6 or are these performance exhausts for the GTI/R32 etc? You can adjust the sound on the exhaust? :confused: How do you do that?
Speaking of TC's Blueflame look what i found (Thats a nice noise but wont be possible on mine will it :sad1:):
Im nr to Birmingham, Kidderminster, Telford, Wolverhampton etc. So anywhere near any of these places you know of. Im willing to travel if there is a good place.
Thanks Joe :happy2:
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Also does anyone know where I can get the carbon fiber rear valance?
Cheers :smiley:
....Mk5 R32 configuration? - The TTshop, Bedford. Made by OSIR - Excellent quality.
Yep with the R32 cut out. Ill have a look at the TTshop. Is that the one you have except with dual cutouts RR? :happy2:
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OK, here it comes............ POWERFLOW ARE CR@P (imo)
Had 2 in the past and my brother is currently running one, they are what all the chavs get on the 106's and the like, they are have a certain low down boom drone, they look sh*te after about 6 months as they are stain-less steel (whatever that means)
How much are you wanting to spend and where are you based? would bluflame not do a custom back box for your car as thats where id be spending my hard earned, then youl get tails like TC's and they can tune the sound to your liking.
You say they are crap because "chavs" go in and ask for an exhaust louder than the noise the moon would make if it crashed into the earth. They can be good if you specify what you want i.e just the backbox, keep the pipes the same size, and dont get excited by stupid loud exhausts they also sell.
I have seen 2 powerflow exhausts done to a very good quality and sounds oem+, just my 2p
Good point. I dont want an stupidly loud thing. I would want close to stock maybe a little deeper and more sporty sounding but nothing that is going to make people look at the car from 3 miles away. I would like it to sound like a normal car!
I have read a few reviews and they seem to make the exhaust to a very high quality and will even change the sound of the exhaust after they have fitted it if you dont like the way it sounds after driving it! Cheers :smiley:
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The osir carbon diffuser is very expensive, get ready to wince when you see the price. :laugh:
As for the Blue flame Ollie you only need the cat back which i think is under 400. You can keep the narrow diameter pipe and just get the larger tips to fill out the diffuser properly.
And if you do go for the osir piece get the mat carbon one then i can swap with you. :laugh:
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nice timing on this thread.as i,m saving hard for a similar thing.i,m prob going blueflame but i keep thinking there must be a cheaper option for me. i know you get what you pay for and i have no doubt that its bluey i want.....would it be cheaper/more sense to get a custom one made-where would i start to look for a local compay that offers that service?
and blueflame does offer lifetime guarantee,thats a def plus for me!!
i cant justify the carbon from osir at this present moment-i know TC got his from guy in germany but i think it was similar money.
or i,m gonna get one from a stealer-about 85 notes and get it wrapped untill i can afford the real deal.
the ebay ones from china are about 130 plus 30 ish for delivery.
anyone else got an input???
joe-are they crap in quality or is it just the type of exhaust that people buy from them and what they do with them?
matsu
Powerflow also offer a lifetime guarantee I believe.
How much is the osir one? EDIT - Just read TC's reply so its not going to be a bargain! :grin: I did have a look on ebay but couldn't see any. Id be unsure of the quality as well! Cheers :smiley:
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Yep with the R32 cut out. Ill have a look at the TTshop. Is that the one you have except with dual cutouts RR? :happy2:
....Yep :happy2:
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OK, here it comes............ POWERFLOW ARE CR@P (imo)
Had 2 in the past and my brother is currently running one, they are what all the chavs get on the 106's and the like, they are have a certain low down boom drone, they look sh*te after about 6 months as they are stain-less steel (whatever that means)
How much are you wanting to spend and where are you based? would bluflame not do a custom back box for your car as thats where id be spending my hard earned, then youl get tails like TC's and they can tune the sound to your liking.
Have to agree with Joe mate..
All examples of Powerflow work I have seen have been fitted to chav mobiles as its a cheap and quick solution to getting a 'sports' exhaust..
They use extremely low grade thin stainless which keeps costs down, mig welding and generally there just a bit nasty..
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All depends on which branch you go to, and what Chav cars have you lads owned to know what they look like, workmanship can vary just like all professions. Think it should be down to personal experience, i have had 3 systems fitted to my car including some custom v6 downpipes, had no probs with them, Systems can me Mig'd and Tig'd just depends on how much you want to pay.
I work part time at Telford Powerflow, give us a call for a price or pop down and see us, can do just a back box or a cat-back, all tailored to your needs and what sounds you want.
Unit 28
Ketley Business park
Waterloo Road
Telford
Shropshire
TF1 5JD
01952 245559
Im on hol at mo, but as for Kez.
Sie
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Sounds a bit like luck of the draw as to what you get from Powerflow. I've never even heard of them.
Milltek, Blueflame, and APR, are the most reliable exhaust products for the 2.0T FSI platform (and others) in my opinion.
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The osir carbon diffuser is very expensive, get ready to wince when you see the price. :laugh:
As for the Blue flame Ollie you only need the cat back which i think is under 400. You can keep the narrow diameter pipe and just get the larger tips to fill out the diffuser properly.
And if you do go for the osir piece get the mat carbon one then i can swap with you. :laugh:
I haven't found a price yet! The TT shop dont seem to have a website!
I have just emailed blue flame so ill see what they say. What size tips are yours? Slightly bigger than stock?
Haha ill let you know about that! :happy2:
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Yep with the R32 cut out. Ill have a look at the TTshop. Is that the one you have except with dual cutouts RR? :happy2:
....Yep :happy2:
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Very Nice RR, I like the black tips! :happy2:
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well i'm one of the crazy few who have ponied up the dough for the OSIR valance, and yes they are stupid money:
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theres a miltek tucked in there too to fill the holes a little better and to give me the sound i was after.
however, for the money the fit of the OSIR one is rubbish and takes alot to get it to sit into the recess correctly without it popping out. dont see it as a holy grail of a valance as some R32 owners do...as it will only disappoint. if it were cheaper then maybe but personally i would wrap a standard valance or get a pro to actually bond real carbon to the outer face.
as for the zorst, as said if this is a sound thing then i would go for a rear section only rather than a full system and get the tails to the diameter you fancy, the sound can be beefed with a good cold air induction setup to combine it with
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OK, here it comes............ POWERFLOW ARE CR@P (imo)
Had 2 in the past and my brother is currently running one, they are what all the chavs get on the 106's and the like, they are have a certain low down boom drone, they look sh*te after about 6 months as they are stain-less steel (whatever that means)
How much are you wanting to spend and where are you based? would bluflame not do a custom back box for your car as thats where id be spending my hard earned, then youl get tails like TC's and they can tune the sound to your liking.
Have to agree with Joe mate..
All examples of Powerflow work I have seen have been fitted to chav mobiles as its a cheap and quick solution to getting a 'sports' exhaust..
They use extremely low grade thin stainless which keeps costs down, mig welding and generally there just a bit nasty..
Oh I see. The only reason I was looking around is because I needed a custom one. I take it then a lot of companies make them from scratch? I wasn't looking at Blueflame, milltek etc because I'm not really after any performance. (You cant polish a turd is a fitting statement) The 1.6 is not going to ever be a performance car so I was going for looks and sound. Am I looking at this the wrong way?
Ill have to see what Blueflame say. As these seem a popular choice! :happy2:
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All depends on which branch you go to, and what Chav cars have you lads owned to know what they look like, workmanship can vary just like all professions. Think it should be down to personal experience, i have had 3 systems fitted to my car including some custom v6 downpipes, had no probs with them, Systems can me Mig'd and Tig'd just depends on how much you want to pay.
I work part time at Telford Powerflow, give us a call for a price or pop down and see us, can do just a back box or a cat-back, all tailored to your needs and what sounds you want.
Unit 28
Ketley Business park
Waterloo Road
Telford
Shropshire
TF1 5JD
01952 245559
Im on hol at mo, but as for Kez.
Sie
PMed :happy2:
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well i'm one of the crazy few who have ponied up the dough for the OSIR valance, and yes they are stupid money:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMy_R32%2FCandy%2FCimg2837.jpg&hash=b0049530b09fe2750404d0911cd2c553dd437b3e)
theres a miltek tucked in there too to fill the holes a little better and to give me the sound i was after.
however, for the money the fit of the OSIR one is rubbish and takes alot to get it to sit into the recess correctly without it popping out. dont see it as a holy grail of a valance as some R32 owners do...as it will only disappoint. if it were cheaper then maybe but personally i would wrap a standard valance or get a pro to actually bond real carbon to the outer face.
as for the zorst, as said if this is a sound thing then i would go for a rear section only rather than a full system and get the tails to the diameter you fancy, the sound can be beefed with a good cold air induction setup to combine it with
Stupid money doesn't sound good! :laugh: What region are we talking a couple of hundred? :scared:
Nor the fact that they are a rubbish fit! :rolleye: But they do look good! :drool:
Yep I think I will just be going for a backbox with tails! Been looking at a few of those too! :happy2:
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budget for around £400 for an OSIR one at the moment :chicken:
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400 QUID!!!!! :scared:
I think I will be getting it wrapped if I go carbon fibre!!!! :rolleye:
Do you know an estimate price on getting it wrapped? Would it look the same?
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it would look pretty close to the real thing yeah and considerably cheaper to use a wrapped plastic valance
have a chat with phil mcavity he's done it:
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im having the r32 exhaust and rear bumper fitted to my ed30 if i ever get to vw racing...the carbon part looks awsome but seems very expensive...carbon wrap for myn i think
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so in theory i can get just the back box for underhalf the full system but a bsh or evoms intake on and save myself enough to almost get colour coded sides.
will this sound almost as good as the whole system VC??.... anyone??
i,m not after pure performance anyway and does a tbe give you that much extra??
i like this idea as it means i can spend the money on other needed things for the car?
anyone else done just the back box?
thanks guys
matsu
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think these guys do the r32 one as well.
and good chance these are the ones that end up as osir(sorry RR) but we know they are made in china!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Carbon-Fiber-Rear-Lip-For-VW-Golf5-Golf-V-MK5_W0QQitemZ220467545574QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3354e3c5e6
matsu
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^^ Cheers Matsu. Just had a look through all they sell but couldn't see one. :sad1:
Cheers :happy2:
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There are quite a few options:-
Blueflame - good brand maybe a little more expensive than the two below. I have heard both praise and one complaint about them, but the ones I have seen have been spot on.
Powerflow - I've seen pretty much 20-30 different types of these which range from the sublime to the ridiculous. Choose your dealer wisely if you go with this option. The "chav" tag is undeserved, but it does tend to attract those with a lower budget. You can ask for higher grade stainless piping, but you would probably have to wait for it and it would cost more.
Exhausts UK - specifically targeted for the "max power" crowd. They do reasonable work at a good price and tailor make to specification. I don't know if they are a Franchise or Sheffield specific though.
I know you mainly want the noise and bling Ollie, but you generally get what you pay for in the exhaust side of the modders world.
If I was in the same boat as you I'd probably ask each one what they can do for you, what sound options they have for their back boxes, what tailpipe options they can give, what grade of steel they use, what guarantee they offer, what price they can offer and how soon they fit. :happy2:
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I haven't found a price yet! The TT shop dont seem to have a website!
http://www.ttsroadsport.com/content.asp?inc=product&catalog=114001S0102
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Best to phone the TTshop and speak to either Justin or Vince. Their web site is rarely up to date.
That eBay carbon doesn't look like OSIR to me. On one hand you might save some money but on the other hand you might be completely wasting it if it's not up to standard when you see it.
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Best to phone the TTshop and speak to either Justin or Vince. Their web site is rarely up to date.
That eBay carbon doesn't look like OSIR to me. On one hand you might save some money but on the other hand you might be completely wasting it if it's not up to standard when you see it.
i totally agree with that statement, part of the magic of cf parts is in the straightness of the weave when laid etc :happy2:
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Best to phone the TTshop and speak to either Justin or Vince. Their web site is rarely up to date.
That eBay carbon doesn't look like OSIR to me. On one hand you might save some money but on the other hand you might be completely wasting it if it's not up to standard when you see it.
i totally agree with that statement, part of the magic of cf parts is in the straightness of the weave when laid etc :happy2:
....I've only ever had one issue of carbon weave with all the OSIR products I've bought through TTshop and it was replaced without fuss. They told me I could keep the sub-standard piece as well. I wouldn't fancy my chances via eBay but I am pretty anti eBay - I don't trust people on it unless I already know them [why did I trust Oli? :grin:]
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There are quite a few options:-
Blueflame - good brand maybe a little more expensive than the two below. I have heard both praise and one complaint about them, but the ones I have seen have been spot on.
Powerflow - I've seen pretty much 20-30 different types of these which range from the sublime to the ridiculous. Choose your dealer wisely if you go with this option. The "chav" tag is undeserved, but it does tend to attract those with a lower budget. You can ask for higher grade stainless piping, but you would probably have to wait for it and it would cost more.
Exhausts UK - specifically targeted for the "max power" crowd. They do reasonable work at a good price and tailor make to specification. I don't know if they are a Franchise or Sheffield specific though.
I know you mainly want the noise and bling Ollie, but you generally get what you pay for in the exhaust side of the modders world.
If I was in the same boat as you I'd probably ask each one what they can do for you, what sound options they have for their back boxes, what tailpipe options they can give, what grade of steel they use, what guarantee they offer, what price they can offer and how soon they fit. :happy2:
Thanks Hurdy! :happy2: Thats excellent. So in your opinion blueflame would be the way to go?
There seem to be many opinions on powerflow that do not match. Some say they are well made and good others say they are utter rubbish!
You say exhaust UK are aimed at the max power crowd? Do you mean they advertise for them or that they are there general customers? I have been working in Sheffield and maybe going back soon so I could pop in.
The thing about the noise is not what I want it is what I dont want. I do not want the car to sound stupid. If I went with anyone of these exhausts and it did sound overly loud or just crappy then it would be removed straight away. Thats why I want to get it right before I buy.
I have emailed Blueflame, Milltek, Powerflow and ill email exhausts uk also. Is there any others anyone can think of?
Cheers :happy2:
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Best to phone the TTshop and speak to either Justin or Vince. Their web site is rarely up to date.
That eBay carbon doesn't look like OSIR to me. On one hand you might save some money but on the other hand you might be completely wasting it if it's not up to standard when you see it.
I know what you mean RR. I would probably go for a wrap if I dont go for the osir (unlikely unless my money tree starts blooming) :happy2:
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There are plenty of other smaller companies who may do just as good a job (or better), but these are probably your best options.
If you can get a decent back section made up by Blueflame at the RIGHT price then I'd go with them, If not then Exhausts UK.
Exhausts UK advertise in Max Power (or used to when I read it :ashamed:) and are located just off the M1 off the Tinsley Viaduct exit.
An exhaust manufacturer/fitter, should be able to give you the sound you want if they "know their onions" :happy2:
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There are plenty of other smaller companies who may do just as good a job (or better), but these are probably your best options.
If you can get a decent back section made up by Blueflame at the RIGHT price then I'd go with them, If not then Exhausts UK.
Exhausts UK advertise in Max Power (or used to when I read it :ashamed:) and are located just off the M1 off the Tinsley Viaduct exit.
An exhaust manufacturer/fitter, should be able to give you the sound you want if they "know their onions" :happy2:
The problem is I dont know what the right price is! I dont know how much I would be expecting to pay! :ashamed:
How much would you think is the right price for a blueflame back box with slightly bigger tips than the r32 which sounded a little deeper and sporty than standard (not a huge aircraft landing different)? :happy2:
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My tips are 4inch and when you see them off the car they look ridiculously large. At first i said i would be embarrassed to put them on my car, but once they were on, they looked more appropriate.
Blueflame only do resonated if they did a non-res it would be to loud :laugh:
I think they can make them a bit quieter than mine is but i am not sure, and yours would be a somewhat quieter due to less power as Mat's is a fair bit louder than mine. :driver:
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My tips are 4inch and when you see them off the car they look ridiculously large. At first i said i would be embarrassed to put them on my car, but once they were on, they looked more appropriate.
Blueflame only do resonated if they did a non-res it would be to loud :laugh:
I think they can make them a bit quieter than mine is but i am not sure, and yours would be a somewhat quieter due to less power as Mat's is a fair bit louder than mine. :driver:
That sounds fairly big but as you say they look good on the car.
Yours sounds good but the thing I am worried about is that the GTI is a performance car so it is naturally going to sound better with an exhaust. Mine is not a performance car so I have a feeling it is going to sound stupid? I wouldn't mind it louder if I knew it would sound good lol!
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Your just going to have to take a chance, your a pioneer. :driver:
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Your just going to have to take a chance, your a pioneer. :driver:
Haha I dont like chances, especially when it is my money! :scared: :laugh:
Guess I'm going to have to!
I think I will go for the blueflame depending on cost! I'll have to see what they say when they email me back! This teamed with a new airfilter may sound ok hopefully....
What grade stanless steel is best? :happy2:
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GazbutS3 is your man for steel grades, i havn't the foggiest.
Also if you dont like the sound of the blueflame or Milltek you can always sell it on. :smiley:
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Cheers TC I pmed him and he has sorted me out! :happy2:
Suppose I could. I bet nobody knows but is the GTI exhaust run differently under the car to the golf 1.4, 1.6, diesels etc? There is a Milltek one on ebay designed for the GTI for the R32 conversion. I wonder if it would fit... :smiley:
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^^ wouldnt fit.
Another cheap option for you is get an R32 backbox and fabricate it to your car, will still fit, then chop the ends off and buy some tips from millteck, then itl look like you have a milltek r32 exhaust. Not sure if this would work though :laugh:
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If you start mixing and matching various parts of the exhaust system you best know exactly what you are doing. I'm not saying that it won't work but only to be aware that factors such as back pressure make a difference and not necessarily beneficial. There's more to an exhaust than just sound.
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hi RR, that would be my concern too.
i,m talking to nigel from blueflame today so i will let you know what he says he thinks i should do!
matsu
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just spoke to nigel at blueflame- they are producing as we speak a catback system to fit on the existing gti set up this will cost 485 inc vat- this will also be able to be upgraded to the full system ata later date and he said he will keep the add on at the same rate so that it still only costs the 1060 i was originally quoted to get the full system!
woooohooooo :jumpmove: this means i will prob now be able to get the r32 look i want , the sound but just not all the power...........for now mwahahahahahahah :evilgrin:
this will also allow me to get the bumper/skirts resprayed and the apron/and my badges carbon wrapped.
ollie- i hope this helps mate?
matsu
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^^ i did the same, got the rear and then added the front. :happy2:
RR, i doubt it would be noticable on the 1.6,
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^^ wouldnt fit.
Another cheap option for you is get an R32 backbox and fabricate it to your car, will still fit, then chop the ends off and buy some tips from millteck, then itl look like you have a milltek r32 exhaust. Not sure if this would work though :laugh:
Sounds like a lot of chopping!! :scared: :laugh:
The thing with the R32 backbox is I believe you cannot get it to sit correctly. The pipes are on a slight angle due to the layout of the car! :sad1:
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hi RR, that would be my concern too.
i,m talking to nigel from blueflame today so i will let you know what he says he thinks i should do!
matsu
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just spoke to nigel at blueflame- they are producing as we speak a catback system to fit on the existing gti set up this will cost 485 inc vat- this will also be able to be upgraded to the full system ata later date and he said he will keep the add on at the same rate so that it still only costs the 1060 i was originally quoted to get the full system!
woooohooooo :jumpmove: this means i will prob now be able to get the r32 look i want , the sound but just not all the power...........for now mwahahahahahahah :evilgrin:
this will also allow me to get the bumper/skirts resprayed and the apron/and my badges carbon wrapped.
ollie- i hope this helps mate?
matsu
Nice to know so a backbox only will cost less than that? Im going to have to get phoning! Cheers :happy2:
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What I got back from Milltek:
Good afternoon Ollie,
Many thanks for your email.
Unfortunately we don’t manufacture universal silencers that install on to the stock pipework.
We also do not list a specific system for your model of Golf Mk5, it may be possible that one of our systems is compatible with your vehicle with the use of an adaptor but you would have to confirm fitment.
Regards
Leigh Ravey
I have replied and I am waiting on them to reply. I take it a silencer is another word for backbox? So what she is saying is she probably cant help me I think!
Milltek out then!
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the blueflame catback box fits directly on so i was told today!
thats my plan....for now then ill add to it along with an intake in the summer!
then re-remap to blend it all together :jumpmove:
matsu
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osir carbon diffuser is a really bad fit, ull be messing out with it for ages to get it right
Miltek exhust, resonated for a quiet sound or non resonated for a bit of a growl
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fii131%2Fx5pea3%2FDSC03711-1.jpg&hash=77e1bd8588116902a0d953dba4e4f5306ac5e32e)
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osir carbon diffuser is a really bad fit, ull be messing out with it for ages to get it right
Miltek exhust, resonated for a quiet sound or non resonated for a bit of a growl
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fii131%2Fx5pea3%2FDSC03711-1.jpg&hash=77e1bd8588116902a0d953dba4e4f5306ac5e32e)
OOOFF :evilgrin: :notworthy:
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osir carbon diffuser is a really bad fit, ull be messing out with it for ages to get it right
Miltek exhust, resonated for a quiet sound or non resonated for a bit of a growl
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fii131%2Fx5pea3%2FDSC03711-1.jpg&hash=77e1bd8588116902a0d953dba4e4f5306ac5e32e)
Im in love! :love:
What size tips are those? :happy2:
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X5peas golf = :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Ollie,
Redline magazine have a good feature on exhausts near the back of the current edition :happy2:
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Ollie,
Redline magazine have a good feature on exhausts near the back of the current edition :happy2:
Cheers Hurdy, I'll pop into WHSmiths and have a sly read :signLOL:
Cheers :happy2:
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however, for the money the fit of the OSIR one is rubbish and takes alot to get it to sit into the recess correctly without it popping out. dont see it as a holy grail of a valance as some R32 owners do...as it will only disappoint.
....Drill holes in the tabs and oem section and use cable ties for a tight fit.
It means you have to cut and replace the cable ties if you need to remove the exhaust trim but that's no big deal.
HTH :happy2:
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joe- did u have the foam insert in ur install?
just seen the vortex thread about the r32 fitting-and just wanaa make sure i have got all the parts i need?
fanx buddy
matsu
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JUST HAD RE LOOK ON JOES THREAD-(sorry caps)
i need a shopping list as ive had a mini bonus at work and have moolah to spend....
ive got the bumper-just the bit pic 6 page 2 of joes project thread
does this fit as straight replacement
will order the blueflame catback system next week
i need the lower diffuser/apron-does this fit straight onto the original
then i need to smooth and prime the diffuser
and smooth and prime my new side skirts
(prime the new front splitter...sssshhhh secret)
do i need the foam insert?
anyone think of anything else-this looks like i,m planning for this in feb so wanna get a shift on pleeeeeeezzeeeee
thank u so much
matsu
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I think you need the foam insert or you can chop the one on your car up to fit. I think I will buy it saves messing around and will be a perfect fit :happy2:
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i,m confused mate
my bumper does not have all the fittings etc on its underneath like the one in this thread
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3754634
but the one in joes build also looks like mine----i think :scared:
can anyone help out here i wanna get all the right parts so it gets done on the day i plan it lol
big fanx
matsu
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i,m confused mate
my bumper does not have all the fittings etc on its underneath like the one in this thread
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3754634
but the one in joes build also looks like mine----i think :scared:
can anyone help out here i wanna get all the right parts so it gets done on the day i plan it lol
big fanx
matsu
Do you mean your old bumper or the r32 one? I thought it would be as easy as taking old off, zoorst on, change the foam and whack the r32 on! Maybe not! :confused:
A list of what is needed would be of great use to me too! :happy2:
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this is not what i got
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv264%2Fmatsu66%2Frshaved.jpg&hash=344c769f3b1f67e9013d46186ec334e057fb5400)
i have this bumper but it hasnt got all the fittings on the underneath of it if that makes sense- do i need this or does the one i got just fit straight over instead of the stock one. getting stressed now :jumping: :sad1:
glad this will help you mate-didnt wanna hi jack the thread! :wink:
matsu
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I dont mind mate post away! :happy2:
Im going to have a look at mine now! Ill let you know in a min if mine has them or not!
Also Pmed you :happy2:
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This is mine (same as one in your pic, is that yours?)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi619.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt272%2FOllie0804%2F004-9.jpg&hash=d78b8fcb52e378e8b33dab10d0db9344aec8abc5)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi619.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt272%2FOllie0804%2F003-8.jpg&hash=2228c50a56897c6a1af451acf60e175c8347651a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi619.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt272%2FOllie0804%2F002-8.jpg&hash=a87a0fdee8d4d9b6b811b2b189566ec2d5bc6d84)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi619.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt272%2FOllie0804%2F001-5.jpg&hash=428b76f4f4571e5b73afeee7d764f3a8b22257f1)
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nope mate
mine has no conector on the inside of it-think i got tucked up lol :sad1:
looks like i gotta go shopping!
matsu
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nope mate
mine has no conector on the inside of it-think i got tucked up lol :sad1:
looks like i gotta go shopping!
matsu
The whole inside bit where valance fits on is missing? Is that what you mean?
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yep :sad1:
so i,m gonna get ANOTHER ONE!!! :ashamed:
where is best/cheapest?
matsu
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yep :sad1:
so i,m gonna get ANOTHER ONE!!! :ashamed:
where is best/cheapest?
matsu
I think that would be your only option mate! I got mine of ebay for £25! :smiley:
Obviously it needs repainting and I have a few other little bits planned :innocent:
I think from VW its around £250! :surprised:
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after quick search
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-R32-GTI-REAR-BUMPER-GENUINE_W0QQitemZ160390874909QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item25580a871d
only one i can fine needs repair and paint but ceap and clearly everything u need bar lower valance
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thanks buddy
seen that one- i only really need the lower bit but i might make an offer on it.
bloody epic fail on my behalf and i thought i was doing well.
this might mean i kkep my own side skirts and just get them coded rather than buy diff ones to match my planned new front
matsu
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can you not use the one you've got at all?maybe a body shop would be able to help with the parts missing if they can make anything to help fitting
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thanks buddy
seen that one- i only really need the lower bit but i might make an offer on it.
bloody epic fail on my behalf and i thought i was doing well.
this might mean i kkep my own side skirts and just get them coded rather than buy diff ones to match my planned new front
matsu
Min he would accept was £140 delivered when I asked! I kindly told him ill leave it! :laugh:
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ill look around and we still got 20days to go lol :evilgrin:
matsu
ggggrrrrr bloody dealers wont get me a price unless i give them an r32 registration number to locate a part to put a price to it ggggggrrr!!!!!
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ill look around and we still got 20days to go lol :evilgrin:
matsu
ggggrrrrr bloody dealers wont get me a price unless i give them an r32 registration number to locate a part to put a price to it ggggggrrr!!!!!
Look on auto trader and find a random one! :smiley:
I know it is around the £250 mark for the lower bits. Im not sure if that includes reflectors, valance aswell though! :happy2:
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Powerflow said around £250 mark for back box and tips.
Milltek said they dont do custom.
Blueflame are phoning me back monday!
Im waiting for a reply from Exhaust UK! :happy2:
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anyone know about these?
http://www.revengebodystyling.co.uk/shop/vmchk/Rear-Bumpers/Volkswagen/VW-GOLF-V-R32-REAR-BUMPER/Detailed-product-flyer.html
fanx
matsu
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This may help you Matsu:
Foam Absorber 1K6-807-251-A
Lower Spoiler 1K6-807-433-E-GRU (primered)
Tail pipe surround 1K6-807-568-9B9
Tow Hook Cover 1K6-807-441-E-9B9
LH Support 1K6-807-739
RH Support 1K6-807-740
LH Reflector 1K6-945-105-A
RH Reflector 1K6-945-106-A
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OK, this thred has TOTALLY confussled me. :stupid:
I dont have the foam, i also removed the rear crash bar whist it was off to save weight. (just a hint :wink:)
Matsu, with regards to your fittings, do you mean the upper part or the exhaust trim has no fixings??
if its the exhaust trim (spoiler) then any decent body shop would easily be able to bond it on for a tenner, (or send it me and il do it free)
If its the upper bit that has no fixings so you cant actually attatch it to your car then still, im sure a body shop could easily attatch it.
I got mine off ebay, cant remember how much it was but it was damaged so i fixed it and put it on, takes about 15 mins to take the rear bumper off and put the R on i think its about 2 screws on the inner rear arches and it pulls right off.
HTH
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OK, this thred has TOTALLY confussled me. :stupid:
I dont have the foam, i also removed the rear crash bar whist it was off to save weight. (just a hint :wink:)
Matsu, with regards to your fittings, do you mean the upper part or the exhaust trim has no fixings??
if its the exhaust trim (spoiler) then any decent body shop would easily be able to bond it on for a tenner, (or send it me and il do it free)
If its the upper bit that has no fixings so you cant actually attatch it to your car then still, im sure a body shop could easily attatch it.
I got mine off ebay, cant remember how much it was but it was damaged so i fixed it and put it on, takes about 15 mins to take the rear bumper off and put the R on i think its about 2 screws on the inner rear arches and it pulls right off.
HTH
What about if some one crashes into the back of you without a crash bar? Does it affect anything?
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What about if some one crashes into the back of you without a crash bar? Does it affect anything?
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:grin: :grin: made me laugh,
from what i understand its for protecting people in the back incase of an accident, but i have no rear seats
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What about if some one crashes into the back of you without a crash bar? Does it affect anything?
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:grin: :grin: made me laugh,
from what i understand its for protecting people in the back incase of an accident, but i have no rear seats
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I meant without the bar as opposed to with it haha :laugh:
Ohh stuff the back passengers I ride in the drivers seat!! :grin: :grin:
I think I will leave mine in place then! :happy2:
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joe-yeah mate that helps a lot lol,even in your own straighttalking bangitontheheadwivhammer approach :jumping:
i need to find a bumper and spoiler and i,ll get bodyshop to"chop" my foam to blend underneath.
come monday morning i,ll be on the phone odering sh*t left right and centre....... :fighting:
reckon my stock skirts will look heavy enough just colour coded or do i need some reiger ones in my life??????? :evilgrin:
matsu
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joe-yeah mate that helps a lot lol,even in your own straighttalking bangitontheheadwivhammer approach :jumping:
i need to find a bumper and spoiler and i,ll get bodyshop to"chop" my foam to blend underneath.
come monday morning i,ll be on the phone odering sh*t left right and centre....... :fighting:
reckon my stock skirts will look heavy enough just colour coded or do i need some reiger ones in my life??????? :evilgrin:
matsu
[/quotjoe-yeah mate that helps a lot lol,even in your own straighttalking bangitontheheadwivhammer approach :jumping:
i need to find a bumper and spoiler and i,ll get bodyshop to"chop" my foam to blend underneath.
come monday morning i,ll be on the phone odering sh*t left right and centre....... :fighting:
reckon my stock skirts will look heavy enough just colour coded or do i need some reiger ones in my life??????? :evilgrin:
matsu
I seriously doubt youl need a new bumper mate, id take it to a body shop just to see what they can do before you blow 140 on a new bumper.
The reiger skirts are awesome, BUT they make the car look very deep from the side and if your splitter isnt as low then looks a little odd (again imo)
:happy2:
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What about if some one crashes into the back of you without a crash bar? Does it affect anything?
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:grin: :grin: made me laugh,
from what i understand its for protecting people in the back incase of an accident, but i have no rear seats
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risky territory insurance wise should you have and accident, but then again if you do get rear ended it wont be your fault so your insurance company ideally shouldnt care.
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risky territory insurance wise should you have and accident, but then again if you do get rear ended it wont be your fault so your insurance company ideally shouldnt care.
unless you go backwards into a lamppost :wink:
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good idea joe---- now why didnt i think of that!! DER!! :ashamed:
matsu
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Ive just been reading more reviews on powerflow. Some say that they just change the back pressure to make to exhaust sound different? Is that the proper way to do it there saying it inst?
I think I will be waiting for a call off blueflame if it isnt!
If TC is right and it is under £400 I would be better spending an extra £100 ish for the blueflame? I think I will as powerflow seem to do some bad work according to reviews, but then again excellent in other! :confused:
:happy2:
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throw together a miltek mate, they are the best on the market IMO
get the R32 zuast for the GTI and a downsizer for the smaller pipe and your sorted.
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throw together a miltek mate, they are the best on the market IMO
get the R32 zuast for the GTI and a downsizer for the smaller pipe and your sorted.
Milltek said they couldn't help? Is it that simple? Do you know where to get the downsizer from?
What size tips were on your mk5?
Cheers
Ollie :happy2:
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throw together a miltek mate, they are the best on the market IMO
get the R32 zuast for the GTI and a downsizer for the smaller pipe and your sorted.
Milltek said they couldn't help? Is it that simple? Do you know where to get the downsizer from?
What size tips were on your mk5?
Cheers
Ollie :happy2:
no idea on the size of the ends mate, i ahvent seen a better looking system than the miltek tho
downsizer would just have to be made up to suit the size of your current system. I know a guy who has converted loads of diesels and sml engined petrols to r32 look a likes so its defo doable.
Either buy a cheap std R32 back box and have a go at fitting it, or get the gti r32 system and make it fit cant see it being difficult
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throw together a miltek mate, they are the best on the market IMO
get the R32 zuast for the GTI and a downsizer for the smaller pipe and your sorted.
Milltek said they couldn't help? Is it that simple? Do you know where to get the downsizer from?
What size tips were on your mk5?
Cheers
Ollie :happy2:
You should be able to get a reducer from powerflow off the shelf :happy2:
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throw together a miltek mate, they are the best on the market IMO
get the R32 zuast for the GTI and a downsizer for the smaller pipe and your sorted.
Milltek said they couldn't help? Is it that simple? Do you know where to get the downsizer from?
What size tips were on your mk5?
Cheers
Ollie :happy2:
no idea on the size of the ends mate, i ahvent seen a better looking system than the miltek tho
downsizer would just have to be made up to suit the size of your current system. I know a guy who has converted loads of diesels and sml engined petrols to r32 look a likes so its defo doable.
Either buy a cheap std R32 back box and have a go at fitting it, or get the gti r32 system and make it fit cant see it being difficult
Will these cause problems will the back-pressure and things?
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throw together a miltek mate, they are the best on the market IMO
get the R32 zuast for the GTI and a downsizer for the smaller pipe and your sorted.
Milltek said they couldn't help? Is it that simple? Do you know where to get the downsizer from?
What size tips were on your mk5?
Cheers
Ollie :happy2:
You should be able to get a reducer from powerflow off the shelf :happy2:
Cheers mate :happy2:
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throw together a miltek mate, they are the best on the market IMO
get the R32 zuast for the GTI and a downsizer for the smaller pipe and your sorted.
Milltek said they couldn't help? Is it that simple? Do you know where to get the downsizer from?
What size tips were on your mk5?
Cheers
Ollie :happy2:
no idea on the size of the ends mate, i ahvent seen a better looking system than the miltek tho
downsizer would just have to be made up to suit the size of your current system. I know a guy who has converted loads of diesels and sml engined petrols to r32 look a likes so its defo doable.
Either buy a cheap std R32 back box and have a go at fitting it, or get the gti r32 system and make it fit cant see it being difficult
Will these cause problems will the back-pressure and things?
i wouldnt imagine so, your increasing the flow of the exhausts gasses rather than reducing them, as i said i know a few guys who have done it and they never had any issues. Newer engines are complicated things, but the only sensor is further back up the system so it should be unaffected. Worth sticking it on vag come ones its done tho :happy2:
Go for it mate
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risky territory insurance wise should you have and accident, but then again if you do get rear ended it wont be your fault so your insurance company ideally shouldnt care.
unless you go backwards into a lamppost :wink:
True, and ive just read that apparently its illegal to drive a car without crash bars on public roads
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^ I was thinking that. I would think they are an integral part of the cars design. Surely they add to the cars strength, safety etc?
Well I have just received an email from miltek. I would have to buy the cat-back system and then I may be able to use a adaptor. I dont really want a cat-back on the car as I think it would be a waste of money on a 1.6?
Blueflame are looking the best option if they offer only a backbox.
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I have emailed Blueflame, Milltek, Powerflow and ill email exhausts uk also. Is there any others anyone can think of?
You might want to give Pipewerx a try, it's run by Ian Birch and Jeff Webb and they make custom exhausts as well as standard systems. Back in the day they were Dubsport and until recently Jeff was the main tech at Awesome, plus Ian used to do product design for Blueflame!! Website - http://www.pipewerx.com/
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I have emailed Blueflame, Milltek, Powerflow and ill email exhausts uk also. Is there any others anyone can think of?
You might want to give Pipewerx a try, it's run by Ian Birch and Jeff Webb and they make custom exhausts as well as standard systems. Back in the day they were Dubsport and until recently Jeff was the main tech at Awesome, plus Ian used to do product design for Blueflame!! Website - http://www.pipewerx.com/
Cheers Pablos007 Ill see what they say! :happy2:
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cheap r32 zaust
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1363057.htm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK5-R32-GENUINE-EXHAUST-SYSTEM-WITH-CAT-BACK_W0QQitemZ150403827204QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2304c44604#ht_500wt_1182
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Cheers x5pea! :happy2:
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any joy with pipewerx mate?
blueflame have not finished developing their catback system to join my gti pipes .....YET! am waiting for an email then i,m gonna spend :evilgrin:..........unless you get a bllody marevlous response from pipewerx and it changes my mind.. :jumping:
matsu
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I'd look at plumbing in an OEM R32 back box in with a reducer sleeve. Back pressure is not going to be an issue here.
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any joy with pipewerx mate?
blueflame have not finished developing their catback system to join my gti pipes .....YET! am waiting for an email then i,m gonna spend :evilgrin:..........unless you get a bllody marevlous response from pipewerx and it changes my mind.. :jumping:
matsu
They quoted £450 for backbox. :happy2:
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looks like i,m waiting for blueflame then at 485 :evilgrin:
thanks buddy :evilgrin:
matsu