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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: SteveS on February 13, 2016, 09:39:13 pm

Title: I need a new motor
Post by: SteveS on February 13, 2016, 09:39:13 pm
So its been around 8 years! i love my ED30 and its a real decent performance car!!
However! i want to find a new car... Im looking for something which is more suitable for my years. Of course it has to be a drivers performance car. I cant go back from the performance of a stage2+ ed30!

Thought id throw the idea out on the forum and see people suggestions.. i have a few ideas

BMW 2013 M3.. around £35 but older and no longer produced..
BMW M4, around 45k for a 2014 plate, waiting for the new plate may drop the cost a little and allow me to get a 15plate
Mercedes C63.. 2013 ish i think, 45k but huge engine, cost more on petrol and tax
Audi RS5, 44k? 2013 ish, Not totally sold on the lo0ks, pretty standard from the side and again, more in tax and petrol plus older..
Porche Cayman up to 45k, look great but (if.when i have a family, will be useless!) also maintenance is probably ridiculous.

Right now im leaning towards the M4. first gen so may be a collector later on, extremely fast. Twin turbo, can be modded with a plugin box of around an extra 100hp..

opening up a can of worms, but go for it lads!

Title: Re: Ineed a new motor
Post by: Nasir on February 13, 2016, 09:43:51 pm
F10 M5? There were/are some seriously good lease deals.

Personally love the E92 M3. They'll never make a big N/A engine like that again.
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: Chris92 on February 14, 2016, 05:39:16 pm
Merc c63 or rs5 for me
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: SteveS on February 14, 2016, 11:43:57 pm
F10 M5? There were/are some seriously good lease deals.

Personally love the E92 M3. They'll never make a big N/A engine like that again.
M5 is too large for me, also costs more.
M3 i do like, but the engine is such a size and puts out less than the m4.. plus i like a turbo, easily tunable too

Merc c63 or rs5 for me

RS5s are as much as a much newer m5, as mentioned they also seem to average looking.
Merc i do like a lot! but a 6.3 engine.. bit ridiculous
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: dan930 on February 15, 2016, 12:18:31 am
I would choose a m4
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: lukemk5gti on February 15, 2016, 09:27:02 am
BMW 335i?

Audi S5?

Both much cheaper than an M3 with plenty of tuning capability to surpass it... Prices in Ireland are €15 - €20K for 2008 models compared to €30k for a similar M3.

The money you would save from going up another model i.e. S5 over RS5 can be used to tune it to the nth degree!
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: berg on February 15, 2016, 10:01:38 am
I'm in the same situation as you Steve, will have has the Eddie 6 years this September.

Looking at changing it after 7 years.

The problem with the V8 M3 is that you can get the V8 M5 for the same money - no comparison in terms of comfort, torque.

So at the moment I would hope that an decent M5 can be had for £25k in late 2017/early 2018
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: tony_danza on February 15, 2016, 10:22:09 am
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Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: dan930 on February 15, 2016, 02:28:46 pm
How about the s4 3.0
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: SteveS on February 16, 2016, 06:58:37 pm
S5 doesnt look good enough imo and i dont want to be adding anything in terms of body work.
m335i - 5 door.. not for me.

M2 i did think about but if its slower than the m4... why would i buy it.. Does look good though!!
 EDIT plus its only in Manual and i really want paddles.
Title: I need a new motor
Post by: FJ1000 on February 16, 2016, 07:53:34 pm
If you're spending £40-£45k, don't need a family car yet, why not consider an early V8 R8? They seem to have been very stable at that price for at least a couple of years too, so you probably wouldn't lose much on depreciation when you're forced to move to something more sensible. Make the most of it while you can though!

Get it to MRC tuning for a stage 2 map (makes the throttle response absolutely electric).


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Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: gtipirelli on February 16, 2016, 09:23:28 pm
Bear in mind that the C63, M4 and a lot of M3's are quite small cars when you start to try and lug around family stuff. You mention that may be happening in the future. That being the case, get a Cayman in the meantime. They are real weapons and the flat four engines they are now introducing will keep residuals of the 6 cylinder cars high.

You will hardly lose anything on the Cayman and upkeep is not as high as you think compared to the other cars listed

Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: tony_danza on February 17, 2016, 07:16:28 pm
S5 doesnt look good enough imo and i dont want to be adding anything in terms of body work.
m335i - 5 door.. not for me.

M2 i did think about but if its slower than the m4... why would i buy it.. Does look good though!!
 EDIT plus its only in Manual and i really want paddles.

Not wishing to pre-empt the motoring press' reviews, I think you'll find this will be THE car of the year. Hints are it is a stunner.

Oh, and you can spec DCT.  :happy2:
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: SteveS on February 17, 2016, 07:56:52 pm
If you're spending £40-£45k, don't need a family car yet, why not consider an early V8 R8? They seem to have been very stable at that price for at least a couple of years too, so you probably wouldn't lose much on depreciation when you're forced to move to something more sensible. Make the most of it while you can though!

Get it to MRC tuning for a stage 2 map (makes the throttle response absolutely electric).

Nice idea but not really great for day to day with these stats- MPG 19 mpg, Insurance Group 49

Bear in mind that the C63, M4 and a lot of M3's are quite small cars when you start to try and lug around family stuff. You mention that may be happening in the future. That being the case, get a Cayman in the meantime. They are real weapons and the flat four engines they are now introducing will keep residuals of the 6 cylinder cars high.

You will hardly lose anything on the Cayman and upkeep is not as high as you think compared to the other cars listed

Cayman i do like, but for that price you can only get the 2.7L which is pretty slow compared. Better in corners im sure but that doesnt swing it. Also not having any room get anyone in the back isnt really ideal
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: berg on February 18, 2016, 10:07:02 am
see what the new RS4 is going to be like as its a 3.0 v6 isnt it - get it on a PCP and then just figure out how to finance the balloon payment
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: Ricky123 on February 20, 2016, 02:35:08 am
Jaguar xfr?? Could definetly be a contender for all the above cars but will probably depreciate more
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: Scottymon on February 20, 2016, 06:33:10 am
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Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: doylebros on February 22, 2016, 05:57:01 pm
M2 gets a good write up here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/bmw/2016-bmw-m2-review/

Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: Black9 on February 23, 2016, 03:04:19 pm
I'd get an M4 or C63.

I have a facelift 6.2 C63 and its a beast. It's mapped, uprated Quaife diff and secondry cat deletes. Making circa 500

A stock car makes 457, perf pck car 487 then u have the 507 edition. Locking diff is rare option.

Be prepared for silly service costs and crazy low mpg.

Personally new M3 is very appealing. Quite like the 4 door.
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: OldSpeckledBen on February 25, 2016, 02:00:43 pm
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That's what i'd choose, it would have to be the R  :smiley:
Title: Re: I need a new motor
Post by: Daveyboy on February 25, 2016, 02:33:52 pm


Nice idea but not really great for day to day with these stats- MPG 19 mpg, Insurance group 49

Surely the c63 isn't going to be any better on fuel. I'd go for the M4. I've had a few M3's and loved them all to drive. And never had a problem with any of them. I hammered the sh*t out of them and they never gave up


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