That cannot be done with VCDS
That cannot be done with VCDS
Thanks. I'll stick to using the mirror switch then.
That cannot be done with VCDS
Thanks. I'll stick to using the mirror switch then.
its done via firmware changes inside the controller with some aftermarket software possibly VAG CAN Pro, either some clever sod can manipulate the coding or the vag can people provide a new flash for the existing firmware.
or for around 80 quid you can just use a SEAT door module on the drivers side.
I bought a seat door controller, going to try it this weekend.
I bought a seat door controller, going to try it this weekend.
Do you have a 3 door? PITA if you have a 5 door.
So fitted it today, door mirrors fold on remote, indicators work, haven't checked puddle lights yet. Had an issue with getting thd door to lock, window switch working, lock/unlock button on door , door warning lights and the mirror adjuster. Basically everything on the driver door.
I have a feeling the pin outputs are different on the controller. It might be that the seat door control module i bought is gen2 or gen3. And my vw one was a gen1.
Going to research it further
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Is yours 3 or 5 door? I'll be doing this soon hopefully. Good work!
So fitted it today, door mirrors fold on remote, indicators work, haven't checked puddle lights yet. Had an issue with getting thd door to lock, window switch working, lock/unlock button on door , door warning lights and the mirror adjuster. Basically everything on the driver door.
I have a feeling the pin outputs are different on the controller. It might be that the seat door control module i bought is gen2 or gen3. And my vw one was a gen1.
Going to research it further
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that's exactly what it will be, if yours is gen 1 then the SEAT module will be gen 2/3 if you want copies of the wiring diagrams to convert the pin outputs send me an email address i can send a pdf to and i'll fire them over
Can anyone fitting Leon controllers @SI-R32 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757)
Does reverse mirror dip work too?
I'm after reverse mirror dip and remote fold in.
Also you just lock the doors, as normal and the mirrors fold, or do you hold the lock button for a second, till fold starts?
I have five door, currently gen2
If i need to replace rear controller, is it same part number?
Cheers Ady
So fitted it today, door mirrors fold on remote, indicators work, haven't checked puddle lights yet. Had an issue with getting thd door to lock, window switch working, lock/unlock button on door , door warning lights and the mirror adjuster. Basically everything on the driver door.
I have a feeling the pin outputs are different on the controller. It might be that the seat door control module i bought is gen2 or gen3. And my vw one was a gen1.
Going to research it further
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that's exactly what it will be, if yours is gen 1 then the SEAT module will be gen 2/3 if you want copies of the wiring diagrams to convert the pin outputs send me an email address i can send a pdf to and i'll fire them over
Thanks SI. my email address is hitman_dubz@hotmail.co.uk
Appreciate it buddy
so how can we reprogramm the existing door modules to power fold with the remote ?Get in touch with Olsen-72 (Alex)
need eeprom tweak? anyone?!You need to do more (useful) posts in the forum so you can send olsen-72 a private message to arrange the EEPROM coding.
need eeprom tweak? anyone?!
need eeprom tweak? anyone?!
There is a cheap version of the software/lead to be able to do this (pvt message me for link as i'm not posting here) so if your up for a bit of diy you should be able to do this.
i'll let you know soon when my lead comes.
Can this be done on a mk6 golf gti already have dipping mirrors when in reverse.It's easier on a mk6.
Have you looked inside of the door module SI-R32? Have you seen eeprom?I'm only going on what the lead is telling me, I'll wait to get it first as I need to walk before running, plus I'd like to learn how to use it before sharing any information with everyone in the sprit of the forum
In mk5 only one module is capable of it.
Like r5gtt - I'm interested to do a bit of EEPROM flashing on my GEN3 5dr controllers!The reason I want to do mine is that I have to switch it over to the heat position for it to fold which is annoying as I won't be able to use the heated glass option.
Hate using that damn knob to control the mirror folding! :smiley:
Well, I found this:That coding shown won't make any difference. The coding needed isn't made with VCDS.
https://www.drive2.ru/l/9110164/ (https://www.drive2.ru/l/9110164/)
As this is a Tiguan - are these the same settings needed for a Golf's GEN3 controller like mine:
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 N HW: 1K0 959 701 N
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0986
Coding: 0000694
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 39790C71700FA9E9685-806C
So far only one module in mk5 can be modified to have that function. Its 1K0...Nwhat's it cost to program in or should I just text you?
I've been reading loads on this and learning tons.
A quick breakdown of things is that mk6 modules (5k0) use UDS protocol to communicate not old can protocol and now with the easily available Vag can pro software around right now you can easily flash these via this software and even use VCDS to do it, all documented and worked out by a guy call Ruben (n4s) on the my Tiguan Forum. There are 2 options either it folds with locking or ignition off I think, something like that.
So some of us may have 5k0 modules in our cars if you've bought a set from ebay or another person or dealer etc. but you probably wont have them so we're stuck with our old 1k0 modules which can only be modified via VCP or similar software which can modify the internals of the module.
This was found out by this guy from Germany.
https://www.facebook.com/VcdsWorkx/?fref=ts
but is kept very secret which I can understand a little, so as far as I can tell there is one person on here (possibly in whole of UK) who has been given the info to be able to mod gen3 max modules to allow your mirrors to fold from the key (by holding it down) and he charges for this service.
I've messaged the person on Facebook in Germany but am doubtful if he will give me any info, so as Eddie nl gave me the info on using a SEAT module over 2 years ago now and its what I've already been using for all that time, I think for now I'll just stick with this as all the info to do it is kept to a privileged few.
I would like to thank n4s for giving me some good info.
So just a little update on this, first i had ordered Van Can Pro copy from somewhere thinking that this would be a wise buy, sadly this wasn't the case but i'll explain a little more soon.
I was trawling through the net when i stumbled across this
http://forum.golf6.pl/mk6-retrofitting/skladanie-lusterek-z-poziomu-pilota-t159-75.html
you'll need a bit of translate but kinda easy to keep up, lots going on but mainly the bits to change in the module etc be it 1K0 or 5K0 but you need a program to interrogate the module and change things, also modules require security access before you can do anything, so i plugged my **it copy of VCP in only to find it did nothing, i was a little disheartened but thought sod it i''ll buy the fully bloody version.
now from installing the copy i got an idea what the program is capable of and it already gives you the folding mirror option on a one press solution for 1K0 and 5K0 modules not just N modules.
This afternoon I got my now fully working version of VCP up and running and put my old 1K0 module back in its from 2010, some of you may know I've had a skoda 1T0 module in my car to do the mirrors for a few year but i wanted it done properly.
here is the write up i did for that
http://www.r32oc.com/topic/44240-fold-mirrors-with-from-key-with-auto-closure/
So with my 1K0 module in
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz45%2FSI-R32%2F1K0_door_module_zpsgw8ny2yo.png&hash=b13ed9fa5c58cef097fb5b5d776651eae8dc86e0)
I pressed a few buttons on VCP and now my mirrors fold with the key from a golf module and open as soon as i open the door, rather than with ignition which i'd already been used to before.
So next step is to see if the 1T0 module will reprogram to fold mirrors open from door?
plus i want to try an older 1K0 modules from say 2007 on wards that aren't an N version, obvvisly they still need the folding option in them to start with it can't make low modules folding.
So if anyone wants me to try coding there mirrors up for FREE please get in touch (i'm in Maidstone area) and we'll experiment to see if it can be done, which i don't see why not.
one last thing the mirror worked the other way round to the passenger side one which tried to rectify with out swapping the wires over but i had to just swap the wires over in the mirror plug for it to be in tandem. overall a productive and happy day.
one other thing to try i've been collecting 5K0 drivers units from Europe, now putting these on a RHD car makes things all work wrong way round, but VCP also can change modules from LHD to RHD so i'f this works and say your old 1K0 version can't be coded then you could use 5K0 version to see if works.
@SI-R32 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757) Well done! Another option available to get this working. :drinking:
Just to add that with the EEPROM coding of my 1K0 rev N with ODIS, it's possible to choose the opening of the mirrors when opening the door or when turning on the ignition. I prefer the latter since I don't always need the mirrors to open when I open my doors. :wink:
Its the same with VCP, door or ignition, that's a good point, you might only want to pop in car and they'll unfold, I might go back to ignition.
I was given a very good but of information from n4s who reminded me before doing any mods on the eeprom coding make a back up copy first, stupidly I didn't do this so I can't put my module back to its total OEM state before folding mirrors were programed (although do I really need to?) but next time I change anything I will make a full back up of all the coding.
wondering also if I could then buy max modules from any a range of vw cars golf, sirocco, tiguan, eos and flash my code into it? potentially turning any max module into my golf max module?
Bit of a thread bump - on the assumption I have the correct module (which I will check but I have a 57 plate Edition 30 with Folding Mirrors fitted as standard) - is there anybody in the South/Greater London/Surrey area or nearby that can re-code the modules to enable this?
Cheers.
Bit of a thread bump - on the assumption I have the correct module (which I will check but I have a 57 plate Edition 30 with Folding Mirrors fitted as standard) - is there anybody in the South/Greater London/Surrey area or nearby that can re-code the modules to enable this?
Cheers.
I'd give it a go for you, probably a little bit to far for you to come, could possibly meet you half way somewhere if we can sort something?
Mine do this. Fold only, dont unfoldhow do you unfold them? @JoeDarKa (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3709)
N modules don't need coding with the 4000 number, as that's only for cars later then 2008, N modules have it precoded in to fold.Cheers @si-r32
702 is passenger side as is 792, 701 and 793 driver sideAh phew! Thought something was wrong lol. My old mirror used to dip as well. When i hooked up the new passenger wing mirror it also dipped. But then after a while it stopped. Tried the old wing mirror and that doesn't dip too. Do these have some sort of fuse?
Im sure you put the keys in ignition and it unfolds?Mine only fold with the switch
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Dont they unfold from the switch too?Im sure you put the keys in ignition and it unfolds?Mine only fold with the switch
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mine only fold from the switch ATMDont they unfold from the switch too?Im sure you put the keys in ignition and it unfolds?Mine only fold with the switch
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U going to fit the seat leon door modules? I tried rewiring my door from gen 1-3 it didn't turn out so well. Might be easier to buy a door card which has a gen 3 wiring on it.
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Nah not the complete loom, just the one from the door card going into the module. The one that comes from the hinge can easily be re-pinned. When i re-pinned the door card loom that's when I ran into issues but then just gave up. Later on it hit me that I shouldve just got a gen 3 loom from a later model door card.noce one Raz sounds like a good plan and no messing about with swapping wires over either. Let me know how you get on please?. Would like power fold mirrors when pressing remote open/close :happy2:
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Here are both my modules
(https://image.ibb.co/iQPyxF/IMG_0415.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/fP9Rjv/IMG_0416.jpg)
This is what I have now with folding puddle lights
(https://image.ibb.co/nOewBa/IMG_0781.jpg)
Sorry for bring this up.
I has the 1K0...N door module which dont fold and I know for sure that the same N module with another SW fold mirrors.
My idea is to copy the software from one module to another. Is it possible? Someone did this !?
Of from what I've read on different forums, I don't think anyone figured out what to change to adapt for an example scirocco, EOS, etc. modules to run with MK5 window drop distance.
I think this might be a matter of a motor as for example all scirocco do have a different motor part number compared to mk6, if I remember correct.
So maybe issue is within motor and not a module itself ?
Although it is confirmed that MK6 modules work fine without any issues. Obviously rewiring is required to comply with Max Gen modules.
I already have folding mirrors that I need to fit and looking on ebay for modules + motors with correct part number.
PS.
you don't necessarily need a full VCP, you can dump eeprom via eeprom readers and clip into the module directly, modify it and reflash it. [I have somewhere information which reader you would need to use]. Odis should be able to do so as well through downloading firmware, editing it with hex file editor and loading it back into the module. I was going to try it some time ago but got a shed loads of work recently and all car work has to wait, unfortunately.
So just a little update on this, first i had ordered Van Can Pro copy from somewhere thinking that this would be a wise buy, sadly this wasn't the case but i'll explain a little more soon.
I was trawling through the net when i stumbled across this
http://forum.golf6.pl/mk6-retrofitting/skladanie-lusterek-z-poziomu-pilota-t159-75.html
You'll need a bit of translate but kinda easy to keep up, lots going on but mainly the bits to change in the module etc be it 1K0 or 5K0 but you need a program to interrogate the module and change things, also modules require security access before you can do anything, so i plugged my s**t copy of VCP in only to find it did nothing, i was a little disheartened but thought sod it i''ll buy the fully bloody version.
Now from installing the copy i got an idea what the program is capable of and it already gives you the folding mirror option on a one press solution for 1K0 and 5K0 modules not just N modules.
This afternoon I got my now fully working version of VCP up and running and put my old 1K0 module back in its from 2010, some of you may know I've had a skoda 1T0 module in my car to do the folding mirrors for a few years but i wanted it done properly due to a couple of silly things the 1T0 module does.
Here is the write up i did for that
http://www.r32oc.com/topic/44240-fold-mirrors-with-from-key-with-auto-closure/
So with my 1K0 module in
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz45%2FSI-R32%2F1K0_door_module_zpsgw8ny2yo.png&hash=b13ed9fa5c58cef097fb5b5d776651eae8dc86e0)
I pressed a few buttons on VCP and now my mirrors fold with a long press from the key from a golf module and open as soon as i open the drivers door, rather than with ignition which i'd already been used to before from the 1T0 module.
So next step is to see if the 1T0 module will reprogram to fold mirrors upon opening the drivers door?
plus i want to try an older 1K0 module from say 2005 onwards that aren't N versions, obviously they still need the folding option in them to start with it can't make low modules folding.
So if anyone wants me to try coding there mirrors up for FREE please get in touch (i'm in Maidstone area) and we'll experiment to see if it can be done, which i don't see why not.
one last thing the mirror worked the other way round to the passenger side one, which I tried to rectify without swapping the wires over but i had to just swap the wires over in the mirror plug for it to be in tandem. overall a productive and happy day.
one other thing to try i've been collecting 5K0 drivers units from Europe, now putting these on a RHD car makes things all work wrong way round, but VCP also can change modules from LHD to RHD so i'f this works and say your old 1K0 version can't be coded then you could use 5K0 version to see if works.
I know this is a pretty old thread now but I’m hoping I can still find out some information….?
I have a 2008 Golf GT 170 with the folding optional mirrors as standard. Can I get the key hold folding done by just reprogramming or do I need a new module/s and wiring..?
Thanks
I know this is a pretty old thread now but I’m hoping I can still find out some information….?If you GEN 3 MAX N modules apparently it's possible with VCP... That's what I have and it didn't work though. Will put my Mk6 module back in this weekend and see if it works with that.
I have a 2008 Golf GT 170 with the folding optional mirrors as standard. Can I get the key hold folding done by just reprogramming or do I need a new module/s and wiring..?
Thanks
I know this is a pretty old thread now but I’m hoping I can still find out some information….?If you GEN 3 MAX N modules apparently it's possible with VCP... That's what I have and it didn't work though. Will put my Mk6 module back in this weekend and see if it works with that.
I have a 2008 Golf GT 170 with the folding optional mirrors as standard. Can I get the key hold folding done by just reprogramming or do I need a new module/s and wiring..?
Thanks
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| Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 N HW: 1K0 959 701 N |
Same part numbers as mine. What software version are yours? Did you code it yourself or take it to someone?I know this is a pretty old thread now but I’m hoping I can still find out some information….?If you GEN 3 MAX N modules apparently it's possible with VCP... That's what I have and it didn't work though. Will put my Mk6 module back in this weekend and see if it works with that.
I have a 2008 Golf GT 170 with the folding optional mirrors as standard. Can I get the key hold folding done by just reprogramming or do I need a new module/s and wiring..?
Thanks
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I had this done on both my Golfs (GT Sport and GTI Ed. 30) with these part numbers:
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 N HW: 1K0 959 701 N
Try a different retrofitter. :wink:
I will try and find out the P/N’s.You'll probably have the N version modules same as me. As long as you already have GEN 3 modules they're plug and play but will have to be coded the same as your current ones.
If I do need to change modules are they plug and plug or do all different modules require some re-wiring aswell..? Anyone in the North West who can do the work..?
Thanks
Without sounding stupid, what’s VCP..?VAG CAN Pro. Similar to VCDS but can also modify firmware in control units etc. More than what VCDS can do.
It was my friend who coded it. I don't know the software version but it was many years ago.Same part numbers as mine. What software version are yours? Did you code it yourself or take it to someone?I know this is a pretty old thread now but I’m hoping I can still find out some information….?If you GEN 3 MAX N modules apparently it's possible with VCP... That's what I have and it didn't work though. Will put my Mk6 module back in this weekend and see if it works with that.
I have a 2008 Golf GT 170 with the folding optional mirrors as standard. Can I get the key hold folding done by just reprogramming or do I need a new module/s and wiring..?
Thanks
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I had this done on both my Golfs (GT Sport and GTI Ed. 30) with these part numbers:
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 N HW: 1K0 959 701 N
Try a different retrofitter. :wink:
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Can you do anything else with VC Pro, such as the engine ECU, or is just for central electronics modules?VCP won't do immobiliser work. You need something like VVDI.
I'm looking to de-immobilise a spare engine ECU but don't know what tools/software are needed for that?
Are the folding mirrors for a 3 door and 5 door the same..as I was informed extra wiring to the back is requiredI had this coding done firstly on my 5 door GT Sport and later on my 3 door Ed. 30. It was just coding of the door module's firmware.
is this guy still active on the forum? thanks
Little preview here
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCA5utku2r4/
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