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Title: Water pump failure odds
Post by: mra12345 on February 22, 2016, 03:42:47 pm
So i was planning on getting my cambelt and pump done as I wasn't 100% sure when it was last done. Called up vw and turns out it was done in early 2014 along with the coil packs by previous owner but water pump was not changed. 

What are the chances of the water pump failing if i leave it and wiping out my engine? I am on 112k miles on a 2006 plate and only do around 5k miles a year.  Trying to guage how soon if at all it needs done.

Thanks
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: r5gtt on February 22, 2016, 06:58:08 pm
That's a tuff one, where is the proof vw did the t-belt?.
when I bought my golf I called up Lancaster vw and the pri** told me it was done along with the dsg but when I purchased the car I found out non were done. although the seller did do a full service and dsg oil change as I opened the filter and found it was a new one so just topped up the dsg oil from what spilled out and left it at that for now.
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: Andy on February 22, 2016, 07:46:40 pm
They say do the water pump while you have the belt of as it saves doing all the work again but all said not heard a mk5 water pump go faulty.
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: r5gtt on February 22, 2016, 07:50:38 pm
That's brilliant then maxitrol  :jumping: no need to replace it yet lol
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: mra12345 on February 22, 2016, 08:35:46 pm
Thanks for the replies guys.  No evidence other than the log book (has a full VW service history and only 1 owner since new) and that when I cross checked it on the phone on their network computer it was noted as being done.  I know this is not 100% reliable but the overall condition of the car is good and I have had it checked during full service by a garage I trust.

Mainly wanted to seek opinions on if the water pump was known to fail but looks like this is not the case so will probably gamble on it being okay until the next belt change is due.  Unless someone thinks otherwise.
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: r5gtt on February 22, 2016, 08:42:44 pm
If you start losing water you'll probably need to do a pressure test but as said all is well and these don't fail like the Audi mk1 tt and mk4 golf gti turbo lol
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: mra12345 on February 22, 2016, 08:52:14 pm
Yeah don't want to be driving along and it explodes!
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: doylebros on February 22, 2016, 08:58:27 pm
Plenty people just change the belt kit - it's good practice to change the water-pump at the same time as the retentioning the timing belt can displace the water-pump seal (which means a contaminated belt with coolant) so another belt and a water-pump means false economy?
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: r5gtt on February 22, 2016, 09:27:46 pm
as above ^^^ good practice but you've already had the belt done by the previous owner so I wouldn't like to say you should still get it done as others have said it's not a common failure point which is fabtastic  :driver:  :popcornsoda: if mine goes   within the time as I can't afford the change yet I'll sure to let you all know my misfortune as it's on 71600 miles and belt kit or water pump have never been replaced as far as I know.  :sad1: bloody previous owners  :fighting2:
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: Motor Mad on February 23, 2016, 11:18:45 am

I just used this link, phoned up a more local dealer and got them to price match.

https://www.inchcape-volkswagen.co.uk/offers/servicing-offers/cambelt-change/

£349 for the cambelt and water pump isn't bad at all. Local independents can't match it.
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: loop on February 23, 2016, 01:49:43 pm

I just used this link, phoned up a more local dealer and got them to price match.

https://www.inchcape-volkswagen.co.uk/offers/servicing-offers/cambelt-change/

£349 for the cambelt and water pump isn't bad at all. Local independents can't match it.
Great price, my local dealer charge £479 for the same!
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: mra12345 on February 23, 2016, 05:21:03 pm
Good price but even if it was 200 i would not go anywhere near my local stealers. Would not trust them to change a light bulb!
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: john87 on February 23, 2016, 06:17:58 pm
My water pump (bearings) started to squeal on my R32 at approx 50k miles and pump was replaced under VW approved used warranty.

Here's what it sounded like in case anyone else hears a similar noise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgR50V8RuDg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgR50V8RuDg)
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: Motor Mad on February 23, 2016, 08:36:29 pm
Good price but even if it was 200 i would not go anywhere near my local stealers. Would not trust them to change a light bulb!

There are good ones and bad ones. One VW dealer I visited put two scrapes on either door on my company car. The second one I went to was really good. In the same way that some independents I've had dealings with have been really poor and charged more than the so called 'stealers'. Go figure.
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: mra12345 on February 23, 2016, 11:18:11 pm
Yeah I know what you mean... I had a bad experience too at a "vw specialist".  Went for a retro cruise fit and came back to a large dent in the roof and a huge scrape... long story! :)
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: Chris92 on February 23, 2016, 11:59:08 pm
It's very unlikely for the water pump pulley to just come off altogether without anything coming to your attention first, if it starts to fail it most likely to start making a noise or/and start to leak coolant before it takes your engine.
Title: Re: Water pump failure odds
Post by: richtung on February 24, 2016, 08:17:41 am
Not on my Ed30 but on our Passat CC. The water pump started leaking coolant mid December - turned out the seal had failed. Car was just over 4 years cold and done 70k on original cambelt and water pump. All changed under AA Garage cover.
It must be noted that the CC's cambelt is on a different change interval to out MK5's. Im not sure if the water pumps are different in terms of durability between the  types of cars -i.e are cars with cambelts that need changing every 5 years / 100k miles (or whatever the new mileage is) vs Cars that need the cablet changing every 4 years or 40k miles like our mk5's?

Rich