Post by: RedGolfDom on February 26, 2016, 12:53:18 pm
Post by: rich83 on February 26, 2016, 12:59:01 pm
Post by: r5gtt on February 26, 2016, 01:10:36 pm
Post by: AJP on February 26, 2016, 01:21:20 pm
I would never get the map done before the modsTo be fair a lot of people start out with a remap early on with no plans for hardware changes, but then as time goes on we get the bug and end up with uprated fuel pumps, downpipes etc. So then another map to get the best out of the mods is required (call it Stage 2 or whatever).opcornsoda:
But back to the original point, a cat back doesn't free up any more power and it'd be pointless to expect remarkable gains from an intake when the rest of the hardware is stock.
Rich put it more succinctly... It's a no.
Post by: Shoduchi on February 26, 2016, 01:31:09 pm
Post by: RedGolfDom on February 26, 2016, 01:41:48 pm
Post by: r5gtt on February 26, 2016, 01:55:38 pm
Weird how that works hey :signLOL:I would never get the map done before the modsTo be fair a lot of people start out with a remap early on with no plans for hardware changes, but then as time goes on we get the bug and end up with uprated fuel pumps, downpipes etc. So then another map to get the best out of the mods is required (call it Stage 2 or whatever).
But back to the original point, a cat back doesn't free up any more power and it'd be pointless to expect remarkable gains from an intake when the rest of the hardware is stock.
Rich put it more succinctly... It's a no.
I mod before a remap as I know the map isn't going to be enough for what I'm after in any car.
Post by: pudding on February 26, 2016, 04:42:58 pm
Weird how that works hey :signLOL:I would never get the map done before the modsTo be fair a lot of people start out with a remap early on with no plans for hardware changes, but then as time goes on we get the bug and end up with uprated fuel pumps, downpipes etc. So then another map to get the best out of the mods is required (call it Stage 2 or whatever).
But back to the original point, a cat back doesn't free up any more power and it'd be pointless to expect remarkable gains from an intake when the rest of the hardware is stock.
Rich put it more succinctly... It's a no.
I mod before a remap as I know the map isn't going to be enough for what I'm after in any car.
Our ECUs self tune but the boost request is fixed. Any additional fuelling requirements an air filter and exhaust upgrade may require will be taken care of automatically.
Stage 2 is pretty much just the boost going up another notch because the absence of the front cat reduces EGTs. Like you say, do the hardware first and just go for the more is better approach from the get go! Cheaper in the long run!
Post by: r5gtt on February 26, 2016, 06:40:27 pm
Thanks mate, that's good to know our cars auto tune for these additions so may as well go stage 2.Weird how that works hey :signLOL:I would never get the map done before the modsTo be fair a lot of people start out with a remap early on with no plans for hardware changes, but then as time goes on we get the bug and end up with uprated fuel pumps, downpipes etc. So then another map to get the best out of the mods is required (call it Stage 2 or whatever).
But back to the original point, a cat back doesn't free up any more power and it'd be pointless to expect remarkable gains from an intake when the rest of the hardware is stock.
Rich put it more succinctly... It's a no.
I mod before a remap as I know the map isn't going to be enough for what I'm after in any car.
Our ECUs self tune but the boost request is fixed. Any additional fuelling requirements an air filter and exhaust upgrade may require will be taken care of automatically.
Stage 2 is pretty much just the boost going up another notch because the absence of the front cat reduces EGTs. Like you say, do the hardware first and just go for the more is better approach from the get go! Cheaper in the long run!
My old car didn't auto tune so had to be mapped to compensate these additions.
Thanks again for the heads up :drinking:
Post by: AJP on February 26, 2016, 06:44:48 pm
Basically it's safe to run uprated parts on a stock map but you won't be getting anywhere near the power you could with a map to suit.
Also worth noting that a decat almost always throws up a dash light, and this is one of the things most Stage 2 maps address.
Post by: r5gtt on February 26, 2016, 07:29:20 pm
The ECU will adjust the AFR but won't increase boost.I'll have to disagree with you there AJP :sad1:
Basically it's safe to run uprated parts on a stock map but you won't be getting anywhere near the power you could with a map to suit.
Also worth noting that a decat almost always throws up a dash light, and this is one of the things most Stage 2 maps address.
my P-flow pipe and Ramair filter caused nothing but high revving and fuel guzzling in my dsg motor so I think it does need a map re the filter as ive been through the pain of fitting and removing it many times over with another filter to be sure it wasn't that particular filter causing the issue but it wasn't. I'd have to remap before fitting the filter oflr fit thay on the day of the mapping. not having a go at you but stating the facts with my car :stupid: thing.
Post by: AJP on February 26, 2016, 07:35:23 pm
Got to say it's the first time I'd heard of an aftermarket intake causing such a headache on a TFSI on a stock map.
Post by: rich83 on February 26, 2016, 07:39:50 pm
Post by: r5gtt on February 26, 2016, 07:44:33 pm