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Title: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: jedi-knight83 on March 12, 2016, 11:09:11 am
Ruined 2 tyres and bent a wheel in 3 days this week in my car

Wednesday night I hit one and didn't think anything of it so I didn't stop but the next morning I found this..

Bulge and flat spot on the wheel
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12814391_898367543564950_8615495708496799041_n.jpg?oh=416f42f174cbb6d8c44f334f4a904cc9&oe=578CA1EB)

Got the tyre changed and planned to have the wheel refurbished this week..

Then driving home last night I hit another one!! on the other side this time though.

Just the tyre this time it seems.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/945500_899021606832877_2920775593405949628_n.jpg?oh=456deb1b63253d16f7bef43f4d28801a&oe=575BE380)
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11937440_899021600166211_4358586377205516303_n.jpg?oh=14fd454c58d52ee23bafba8d224198f8&oe=575C6EDE)

tracking feels out as well now. a good £4-500 down the drain (no pun intended)
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: JackL15 on March 12, 2016, 11:15:18 am
That's a nasty one. Are they currently repairing / resurfacing the road? If so did they put signs up?
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: irish_ram on March 12, 2016, 11:26:42 am
Ruined 2 tyres and bent a wheel in 3 days this week in my car

Wednesday night I hit one and didn't think anything of it so I didn't stop but the next morning I found this..

Bulge and flat spot on the wheel
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12814391_898367543564950_8615495708496799041_n.jpg?oh=416f42f174cbb6d8c44f334f4a904cc9&oe=578CA1EB)

Got the tyre changed and planned to have the wheel refurbished this week..

Then driving home last night I hit another one!! on the other side this time though.

Just the tyre this time it seems.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/945500_899021606832877_2920775593405949628_n.jpg?oh=456deb1b63253d16f7bef43f4d28801a&oe=575BE380)
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11937440_899021600166211_4358586377205516303_n.jpg?oh=14fd454c58d52ee23bafba8d224198f8&oe=575C6EDE)

tracking feels out as well now. a good £4-500 down the drain (no pun intended)

That is crap, I hit one the other day but touch wood nothing seemed damaged.

If there are no signs up about work happening there and if not repaired yet, go and take pics of the potholes, even stick an object in the hole to show depth of the hole. Then take pics of your damage with time and date it happened and then register a complaint with your local council
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: jedi-knight83 on March 12, 2016, 11:28:08 am
That's a nasty one. Are they currently repairing / resurfacing the road? If so did they put signs up?

No. rest of the road was as normal and no signs
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: MC71 on March 12, 2016, 11:37:43 am
Damn fella, sorry to see this. That pothole looks f*cking terrible. I hope you manage to get compensation for this.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: coolhandluke on March 12, 2016, 11:48:37 am
Put a claim in,I've done it twice without any problems.
That manhole looks dangerous.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: r5gtt on March 12, 2016, 12:03:47 pm
^^^ Definitely put a claim in.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: Nasir on March 12, 2016, 12:21:36 pm
Yep put a claim in. Why should you be out of pocket for this?
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: jedi-knight83 on March 12, 2016, 12:29:59 pm
Yes I'm going to claim although I've not got a photo of the first pothole yet. I need to go back and find it but its a bit of a way away.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: Nasir on March 12, 2016, 12:37:55 pm
Yes I'm going to claim although I've not got a photo of the first pothole yet. I need to go back and find it but its a bit of a way away.

Is it £300 or so pounds away?  :signLOL:

Things like this pi** me off. There are so many potholes around Leeds. Worse still are the drain covers that are a foot deep. The GTI's suspension is strong, because I've hit so many of them with massive thuds into the cabin, but no apparent damage.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: Adam0604 on March 12, 2016, 12:41:42 pm
This is why I slalom course drive whenever I can so long as I have no traffic around me.
Roads are in appealing state in most places in the UK now.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: dan930 on March 12, 2016, 12:47:44 pm
F##kinghell,that's one big one...deff put a claim on it mate
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: r5gtt on March 12, 2016, 07:21:39 pm
It's a real basta** when I can't remember where the pot hole was as ive hit a good few and my tracking seems out now.  :mad:
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: AJP on March 12, 2016, 07:42:18 pm
That's just unforgivable. No way should you be paying road tax and then having to pay for repairs. Nasir put it well - it's a ball ache, but if the ball ache means you get reimbursed for the cost then it's simply got to be chased.

I'm well trained in a way when it comes to potholes and dodgy surfaces; my old mk4 was ridiculously low on coilovers so I'm now used to scanning the road as I drive. Hardly ideal though. We should be absorbing info and hazards from as far in front as possible. Not focusing 20 yards in front of us.

But when you don't know the road like the back of your hand things like this happen.

Get on to the council and give them hell. In fact, I'm sure there's some register or something online where you can record potholes, their location, any damage done etc. Then you can approach the council with other occurences of the same pothole causing issues along with your own. Bit of a 'strength in numbers' thing.

Best of luck mate.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: Nasir on March 12, 2016, 08:58:04 pm
I report some potholes using Fixmystreet.co.uk

But no, this is too mainstream and easy for Leeds City Council. You must log on to their sh*tty website and do it.

I swear I didn't even notice potholes in my old MK5 diesel. In this, I notice every crevice in the road. I curse violently when I hit one, which happens at least a couple of times in the day. People must think I'm a lunatic from the outside. But they do feel incredibly harsh in the GTI.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: r5gtt on March 12, 2016, 09:01:49 pm
I report some potholes using Fixmystreet.co.uk

But no, this is too mainstream and easy for Leeds City Council. You must log on to their sh*tty website and do it.

I swear I didn't even notice potholes in my old MK5 diesel. In this, I notice every crevice in the road. I curse violently when I hit one, which happens at least a couple of times in the day. People must think I'm a lunatic from the outside. But they do feel incredibly harsh in the GTI.
I'm the same Nasir, really winds me up thay we pay road tax and they don't jeep the roads up to date. maybe they don't know about the holes but that's not our fault is it.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: jamie on March 12, 2016, 09:19:19 pm
Sorry to see this - not good.

It's even worse when it has been raining and potholes are beneath a puddle of water.  The roads near me are poor and the repairs seems somewhat makeshift at times.  I guess there is just not enough money to go around...

I hope you get it sorted.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: Kam88 on March 13, 2016, 10:35:59 pm
blew my 2 months old michelin up few days ago was really pissed off
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: Greenman on March 14, 2016, 02:25:52 pm
It's threads like these that make me wonder why i even bother paying my road tax.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: r5gtt on March 20, 2016, 01:44:55 am
We've got no choice but to pay @Greenman (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11567)
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: Greenman on March 21, 2016, 02:23:27 pm
We've got no choice but to pay @Greenman (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11567)

This is true, but what are the government actually spending the money on?

Quite obviously not keeping the roads nice.

Around here in bristol almost all the roads are like driving on an off road course...:(
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: pudding on March 21, 2016, 04:32:50 pm
What are they spending the money on?  How about littering the country with average speed traps, speed humps, election campaigns, immigration policies, euro policies blah blah.....  road surface quality is really low down on the priority list.  And it's self perpetuating problem because the car hating cardigan wearing local bureaucrats do nothing about it.  Year in year out they bleat on about reduced budgets blah blah, but they always find the money to throw a new scamera up don't they?

The roads in this country are an embarrassment.  I've seen smoother Bulgarian farm tracks.

They should leave a big box of tarmac and some stamping tools on every street corner and let residents do the repairs themselves.  At least it'll be done properly that way, and as soon as they happen and not 3 years after the fact.

Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: Greenman on March 21, 2016, 04:45:32 pm
What are they spending the money on?  How about littering the country with average speed traps, speed humps, election campaigns, immigration policies, euro policies blah blah.....  road surface quality is really low down on the priority list.  And it's self perpetuating problem because the car hating cardigan wearing local bureaucrats do nothing about it.  Year in year out they bleat on about reduced budgets blah blah, but they always find the money to throw a new scamera up don't they?

The roads in this country are an embarrassment.  I've seen smoother Bulgarian farm tracks.

They should leave a big box of tarmac and some stamping tools on every street corner and let residents do the repairs themselves.  At least it'll be done properly that way, and as soon as they happen and not 3 years after the fact.

I hear all that.

It would not surprise me if some of the money is falling into the back pockets of numerous corrupt politicians!
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: AJP on March 21, 2016, 04:46:14 pm
What are they spending the money on?  How about littering the country with average speed traps, speed humps, election campaigns, immigration policies, euro policies blah blah.....  road surface quality is really low down on the priority list.  And it's self perpetuating problem because the car hating cardigan wearing local bureaucrats do nothing about it.  Year in year out they bleat on about reduced budgets blah blah, but they always find the money to throw a new scamera up don't they?

The roads in this country are an embarrassment.  I've seen smoother Bulgarian farm tracks.

They should leave a big box of tarmac and some stamping tools on every street corner and let residents do the repairs themselves.  At least it'll be done properly that way, and as soon as they happen and not 3 years after the fact.
Well said that man.

I'm lucky in that one of the main roads on my commute has recently been resurfaced. It's nice and smooth, for now. But if I'm venturing further afield it's staggering to see the state of some roads.

Doesn't help having reasonably low profile tyres on the 18s, but still, we should be able to drive with oem spec and not have to worry about this kind of nonsense.

Always makes me wonder how a car would react during an emergency stop on these kind of roads. Surely the car would skit and scrabble for grip. That'd definitely be worthy of a case if it caused a bump.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: pudding on March 21, 2016, 04:58:01 pm
What are they spending the money on?  How about littering the country with average speed traps, speed humps, election campaigns, immigration policies, euro policies blah blah.....  road surface quality is really low down on the priority list.  And it's self perpetuating problem because the car hating cardigan wearing local bureaucrats do nothing about it.  Year in year out they bleat on about reduced budgets blah blah, but they always find the money to throw a new scamera up don't they?

The roads in this country are an embarrassment.  I've seen smoother Bulgarian farm tracks.

They should leave a big box of tarmac and some stamping tools on every street corner and let residents do the repairs themselves.  At least it'll be done properly that way, and as soon as they happen and not 3 years after the fact.
Well said that man.

I'm lucky in that one of the main roads on my commute has recently been resurfaced. It's nice and smooth, for now. But if I'm venturing further afield it's staggering to see the state of some roads.

Doesn't help having reasonably low profile tyres on the 18s, but still, we should be able to drive with oem spec and not have to worry about this kind of nonsense.

Always makes me wonder how a car would react during an emergency stop on these kind of roads. Surely the car would skit and scrabble for grip. That'd definitely be worthy of a case if it caused a bump.

I usually walk to Tescos in my lunch hours and last year I witnessed some truly awful pot hole filling going on, by some anonymous looking guys in an anonymous looking truck.  Sure enough, 3 days after completion, all the tarmac they put down was reduced to a pile of crumbs by the side of the pavement, exposing the original holes again.  Useless.  A fortnight later an official highways crew were there redoing the work.  What a total waste of (tax payers) money.  And this goes on countrywide.  Councils doing it on the cheap, then having to repeat the work.  When are they ever going to learn?

As Nasir said, the OEM suspension is surprisingly strong, as are the Pescara alloys in the case of the Ed30.   I headed down to Hertfordshire last year on unfamiliar roads, and on a pitch black unlit 60mph road, I drove over what can only be described a moon crater.  The noise and thumping through the car was horrendous, but the car carried on regardless.  The next day in the cold light of day, I'd driven over a bit of road that maybe hadn't seen tarmac since the romans put it down in 500 BC.  No damage to the tyres, wheels or suspension!  Amazing!



Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: AJP on March 21, 2016, 05:09:28 pm
What are they spending the money on?  How about littering the country with average speed traps, speed humps, election campaigns, immigration policies, euro policies blah blah.....  road surface quality is really low down on the priority list.  And it's self perpetuating problem because the car hating cardigan wearing local bureaucrats do nothing about it.  Year in year out they bleat on about reduced budgets blah blah, but they always find the money to throw a new scamera up don't they?

The roads in this country are an embarrassment.  I've seen smoother Bulgarian farm tracks.

They should leave a big box of tarmac and some stamping tools on every street corner and let residents do the repairs themselves.  At least it'll be done properly that way, and as soon as they happen and not 3 years after the fact.
Well said that man.

I'm lucky in that one of the main roads on my commute has recently been resurfaced. It's nice and smooth, for now. But if I'm venturing further afield it's staggering to see the state of some roads.

Doesn't help having reasonably low profile tyres on the 18s, but still, we should be able to drive with oem spec and not have to worry about this kind of nonsense.

Always makes me wonder how a car would react during an emergency stop on these kind of roads. Surely the car would skit and scrabble for grip. That'd definitely be worthy of a case if it caused a bump.

I usually walk to Tescos in my lunch hours and last year I witnessed some truly awful pot hole filling going on, by some anonymous looking guys in an anonymous looking truck.  Sure enough, 3 days after completion, all the tarmac they put down was reduced to a pile of crumbs by the side of the pavement, exposing the original holes again.  Useless.  A fortnight later an official highways crew were there redoing the work.  What a total waste of (tax payers) money.  And this goes on countrywide.  Councils doing it on the cheap, then having to repeat the work.  When are they ever going to learn?

As Nasir said, the OEM suspension is surprisingly strong, as are the Pescara alloys in the case of the Ed30.   I headed down to Hertfordshire last year on unfamiliar roads, and on a pitch black unlit 60mph road, I drove over what can only be described a moon crater.  The noise and thumping through the car was horrendous, but the car carried on regardless.  The next day in the cold light of day, I'd driven over a bit of road that maybe hadn't seen tarmac since the romans put it down in 500 BC.  No damage to the tyres, wheels or suspension!  Amazing!
Haha! That made me laugh

Worth noting that correct tyre pressures help. Too high and there's less give in the sidewall on impact. I've dropped down to a modest 32 front / 30 rear. Not sure if that's a tiny bit under, but the ride quality is miles better over these kind of roads. Just feels like the tyres are getting a chance to absorb things. A few more psi all round and things quickly get crashy.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: pudding on March 22, 2016, 02:21:19 pm
What are they spending the money on?  How about littering the country with average speed traps, speed humps, election campaigns, immigration policies, euro policies blah blah.....  road surface quality is really low down on the priority list.  And it's self perpetuating problem because the car hating cardigan wearing local bureaucrats do nothing about it.  Year in year out they bleat on about reduced budgets blah blah, but they always find the money to throw a new scamera up don't they?

The roads in this country are an embarrassment.  I've seen smoother Bulgarian farm tracks.

They should leave a big box of tarmac and some stamping tools on every street corner and let residents do the repairs themselves.  At least it'll be done properly that way, and as soon as they happen and not 3 years after the fact.
Well said that man.

I'm lucky in that one of the main roads on my commute has recently been resurfaced. It's nice and smooth, for now. But if I'm venturing further afield it's staggering to see the state of some roads.

Doesn't help having reasonably low profile tyres on the 18s, but still, we should be able to drive with oem spec and not have to worry about this kind of nonsense.

Always makes me wonder how a car would react during an emergency stop on these kind of roads. Surely the car would skit and scrabble for grip. That'd definitely be worthy of a case if it caused a bump.

I usually walk to Tescos in my lunch hours and last year I witnessed some truly awful pot hole filling going on, by some anonymous looking guys in an anonymous looking truck.  Sure enough, 3 days after completion, all the tarmac they put down was reduced to a pile of crumbs by the side of the pavement, exposing the original holes again.  Useless.  A fortnight later an official highways crew were there redoing the work.  What a total waste of (tax payers) money.  And this goes on countrywide.  Councils doing it on the cheap, then having to repeat the work.  When are they ever going to learn?

As Nasir said, the OEM suspension is surprisingly strong, as are the Pescara alloys in the case of the Ed30.   I headed down to Hertfordshire last year on unfamiliar roads, and on a pitch black unlit 60mph road, I drove over what can only be described a moon crater.  The noise and thumping through the car was horrendous, but the car carried on regardless.  The next day in the cold light of day, I'd driven over a bit of road that maybe hadn't seen tarmac since the romans put it down in 500 BC.  No damage to the tyres, wheels or suspension!  Amazing!
Haha! That made me laugh

Worth noting that correct tyre pressures help. Too high and there's less give in the sidewall on impact. I've dropped down to a modest 32 front / 30 rear. Not sure if that's a tiny bit under, but the ride quality is miles better over these kind of roads. Just feels like the tyres are getting a chance to absorb things. A few more psi all round and things quickly get crashy.

Lol, I was on a proper council hate campaign yesterday  :grin:

I run standard pressures on mine, which is 36psi I think.  Sounds a lot of 18s if you ask me, but it's what it says on the petrol cap!   That kind of pressure wears continentals and F1s down in the middle I've found.  I normally run 32psi too, so I'll have to see what happens to the Michelins!   They actually have a better ride quality at 36psi than the F1s did at 32psi!!

Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: AJP on March 22, 2016, 02:26:56 pm
I had the Supersports at 36/33 and it was bone shaking. Soon as I dropped it made a huge difference.

But yeah, no two tyres are the same. What works in an F1 might be crap with a Michelin. I tend to just experiment and find a sweet spot rather than sticking rigidly to manufacturer numbers, whether that's right or wrong!
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: pudding on March 22, 2016, 02:33:25 pm
I think if pressures were that critical, there would be more control over it.   The amount of people I see with bald tyres, mismatched tyres on the same axle and flat tyres is amazing.....but they stay on the tarmac somehow!

Yeah the super sports have got stiff old sidewalls on them.  I remember them feeling rock like on my old R32 but the turn-in and grip were epic.  Switched to the F1 and they were vague and blancmangey by comparison and not as good in the wet either, which is what I thought the F1's specialty was!!
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: AJP on March 22, 2016, 02:46:06 pm
The turn in is astonishing. Helps to have the geometry set up properly, but even so. Not bad in the wet either. Only criticsm is the performance drops off considerably at colder temps, around 6 degrees or less.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: pudding on March 22, 2016, 02:57:16 pm
Didn't notice that so much with 4WD but they were ace with some heat in them!   F1s are useless at <8 deg as well to be fair.  The PS4 is supposed to the best compromise yet between super sport and Sport and I can definitely confirm that!  Haven't found a weakness yet at normal 5 - 8 tenths driving.
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: AJP on March 22, 2016, 03:12:48 pm
Yeah they're the new PS2, or as good as, so I've read.

Any reason you went for the PS4 over SS?
Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: pudding on March 22, 2016, 03:26:42 pm
Price mate.  SS were £130 a corner and I got the PS4 for £98 a corner.   Normally I always go for the best tyres I can, but couldn't stretch to £500+ on this occasion.

Title: Re: Potholes!!! 2 damaged tyres in 3 days
Post by: r5gtt on March 23, 2016, 01:39:47 pm
We've got no choice but to pay @Greenman (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11567)

This is true, but what are the government actually spending the money on?

Quite obviously not keeping the roads nice.

Around here in bristol almost all the roads are like driving on an off road course...:(
I've been to bristol and the roads are fookered depending where you are.
They spend the money on bombing third world countries and as pudding said scamera traps immigration crap etc