MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Blakescarth on May 18, 2016, 09:40:54 pm
So been looking in to mapping or chipping box I've come across this can anyone point me in the correct way (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160518%2Fd4250169722825c98ae65bf5e1cbd015.jpg&hash=4c3d9c2666dc9a9164db43e245adcb60173b4840)
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: stuart-88 on May 18, 2016, 10:11:53 pm
They're meant to be pretty to good for what they are. Though you'll never have the same result as a custom map will give you.
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: TAPPY on May 18, 2016, 11:23:31 pm
I had 1 on my mk4 gold gttdi pd130 and it instantly transformed the car, it pulled very well and it give back great mpg on a good run on the motorway
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Blakescarth on May 19, 2016, 08:19:23 am
Sounds promising then for 250 can't really go wrong and 14day money back if it's a bag of s***
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Dan_FR on May 19, 2016, 09:54:47 am
Rather you than me.....

All that does by the look of it is plug in to the injector loom and fool the engine in to injecting more fuel than it should be...... No increase to boost, no adjusting the boost control, safety paramaters to suit.....

The reason it gives great MPG by the way is because the trip computer has no idea you are getting the extra fuel, so it thinks you are using less than you actually are.

Get a proper remap for the same money
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: flashp on May 19, 2016, 12:27:02 pm
Rather you than me.....

All that does by the look of it is plug in to the injector loom and fool the engine in to injecting more fuel than it should be...... No increase to boost, no adjusting the boost control, safety paramaters to suit.....

The reason it gives great MPG by the way is because the trip computer has no idea you are getting the extra fuel, so it thinks you are using less than you actually are.

Get a proper remap for the same money

I'm with this opinion on this. Remapping is your best route forward.
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: AJP on May 19, 2016, 12:56:04 pm
I'd only consider an option like this if there was a particular reason why you can't/won't get a remap.
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: amanda on May 19, 2016, 01:22:36 pm
You can get a generic remap for about the same price but I would rather get a custom one......more expensive and way better esp if it has been live mapped  :booty:
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Dan_FR on May 19, 2016, 01:25:57 pm
Brand new car with no hardware issue, minimal variations to turbocharger control (unlike high mileage TDIs!!!) and an expensive car still in warranty are the only reasons I would ever even consider one

Considering you can buy a £15 cable and a map for £45-£100 and DIY it yourself..... Personally on a PD140 I would only ever consider a proper live map from someone who knows what they are doing, as the turbos aren't the best on them and high mile examples often don't last long when increasing power
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: dan930 on May 19, 2016, 02:10:21 pm
Rather you than me.....

All that does by the look of it is plug in to the injector loom and fool the engine in to injecting more fuel than it should be...... No increase to boost, no adjusting the boost control, safety paramaters to suit.....

The reason it gives great MPG by the way is because the trip computer has no idea you are getting the extra fuel, so it thinks you are using less than you actually are.

Get a proper remap for the same money

I'm with this opinion on this. Remapping is your best route forward.

I'm also in the same boat...get a proper remap mate
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: V3trox on May 19, 2016, 02:30:55 pm
These are ok for what they do (chuck in some more fuel)

But for the same price you could get a local mobile mapper to slap a generic on there.

The advantage that i see with these though is you can just take it off when you want unlike a map
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Ollieeee on May 19, 2016, 04:11:21 pm
Don't R-Tech remap the diesels for about £290?
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: RetroRaz on May 19, 2016, 04:12:53 pm
Yep,

going to get my 1.9tdi done soon from them

http://r-techperformance.co.uk/r-tech-price-guide/
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Ollieeee on May 19, 2016, 04:20:10 pm
Yep,

going to get my 1.9tdi done soon from them

http://r-techperformance.co.uk/r-tech-price-guide/

Can't believe their prices to be honest for a custom rolling road map, compared to the generic maps and the results they get!

I'm booked in for the June on my GTI, counting down the days!
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: AJP on May 19, 2016, 04:33:51 pm
Comparable price aside, I'd be much more comfortable with a proper live map from R-Tech than the unknown quantity of a tuning box or lesser known generic map, considering how weak the 140 turbo seems to be.

A mate of mine bought a mapped 140. Turbo died. Replaced with a hybrid and made a safe 210bhp with a map from Ben at Shark (another good mapper).

Worth considering a bit of turbo work if just for reliability.
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Ollieeee on May 19, 2016, 04:41:16 pm
Comparable price aside, I'd be much more comfortable with a proper live map from R-Tech than the unknown quantity of a tuning box or lesser known generic map, considering how weak the 140 turbo seems to be.

A mate of mine bought a mapped 140. Turbo died. Replaced with a hybrid and made a safe 210bhp with a map from Ben at Shark (another good mapper).

Worth considering a bit of turbo work if just for reliability.

Do you know if the 170's have a stronger turbo? Mate's looking at getting his mapped with just a plug in job, but it claims 250bhp. Seems a big jump without having to uprate anything else, or do the diesels just respond better?
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: AJP on May 19, 2016, 04:45:44 pm
Comparable price aside, I'd be much more comfortable with a proper live map from R-Tech than the unknown quantity of a tuning box or lesser known generic map, considering how weak the 140 turbo seems to be.

A mate of mine bought a mapped 140. Turbo died. Replaced with a hybrid and made a safe 210bhp with a map from Ben at Shark (another good mapper).

Worth considering a bit of turbo work if just for reliability.

Do you know if the 170's have a stronger turbo? Mate's looking at getting his mapped with just a plug in job, but it claims 250bhp. Seems a big jump without having to uprate anything else, or do the diesels just respond better?
I don't have much experience of the 170, but I can tell you that 250bhp from a tuning box is nonsense. Advise him to steer clear!

I think the 170 will map over 200bhp, but nowhere near 250bhp. Again, a live remap would be safer, and achieve the best results in terms of power and drivability.
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Ollieeee on May 19, 2016, 04:54:33 pm
Comparable price aside, I'd be much more comfortable with a proper live map from R-Tech than the unknown quantity of a tuning box or lesser known generic map, considering how weak the 140 turbo seems to be.

A mate of mine bought a mapped 140. Turbo died. Replaced with a hybrid and made a safe 210bhp with a map from Ben at Shark (another good mapper).

Worth considering a bit of turbo work if just for reliability.

Do you know if the 170's have a stronger turbo? Mate's looking at getting his mapped with just a plug in job, but it claims 250bhp. Seems a big jump without having to uprate anything else, or do the diesels just respond better?
I don't have much experience of the 170, but I can tell you that 250bhp from a tuning box is nonsense. Advise him to steer clear!

I think the 170 will map over 200bhp, but nowhere near 250bhp. Again, a live remap would be safer, and achieve the best results in terms of power and drivability.

That's what I thought, just over 200 seems realistic but 250 made me think a bit!
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: AJP on May 19, 2016, 04:56:51 pm
Comparable price aside, I'd be much more comfortable with a proper live map from R-Tech than the unknown quantity of a tuning box or lesser known generic map, considering how weak the 140 turbo seems to be.

A mate of mine bought a mapped 140. Turbo died. Replaced with a hybrid and made a safe 210bhp with a map from Ben at Shark (another good mapper).

Worth considering a bit of turbo work if just for reliability.

Do you know if the 170's have a stronger turbo? Mate's looking at getting his mapped with just a plug in job, but it claims 250bhp. Seems a big jump without having to uprate anything else, or do the diesels just respond better?
I don't have much experience of the 170, but I can tell you that 250bhp from a tuning box is nonsense. Advise him to steer clear!

I think the 170 will map over 200bhp, but nowhere near 250bhp. Again, a live remap would be safer, and achieve the best results in terms of power and drivability.

That's what I thought, just over 200 seems realistic but 250 made me think a bit!
I think a lot of it is speculative marketing, if you know what I mean!

Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Blakescarth on May 19, 2016, 05:23:09 pm
Cheers everyone think I'll go with a live map as can get a safe map for it instead of just chucking more fuel and air in
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: AJP on May 19, 2016, 05:24:50 pm
Cheers everyone think I'll go with a live map as can get a safe map for it instead of just chucking more fuel and air in
Good choice
Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: RetroRaz on May 19, 2016, 06:23:15 pm
170 does have a stronger turbo but you have issues with dpf clogging up.

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Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Madone on May 19, 2016, 08:25:30 pm
Don't bother with a box, they are a bodge compared to a remap. This vid explains the differences well. Dinan is a highly respected Tuner in the US.


Title: Re: Mapped or chipped
Post by: Blakescarth on May 20, 2016, 11:03:59 am
That is a brilliant explanation all summed up for me now