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Title: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on May 25, 2016, 04:42:48 pm
Hello everybody,

I'm sure this has been discusssed a number of times, but I was wondering whether anybody can give me a definitive list of the parts needed to upgrade to the OEM 345mm brakes (Found on the S3/R32/Cupra).

Thanks in advance,
Faz
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: Paradox1 on May 25, 2016, 04:53:39 pm
Calipers,carriers,disk,pads, dust shields  and brake lines
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: slix on May 25, 2016, 05:19:13 pm
I was going to upgrade to 345mm s3's. But after a lot of heavy braking the fade is bad like the standard brakes. Nornal day to day braking is awesome though. But I decided to spend another  £100 or so and got some 4 pots.
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on May 25, 2016, 07:35:56 pm
Thanks for the details guys! :)

I'm planning on sticking to the OEM items as I'm not going to do any track work, and the extra expense which I assume will no doubt come with having the 4 pots just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I must confess they do look better though!

Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: slix on May 25, 2016, 09:14:32 pm
Thanks for the details guys! :)


I'm planning on sticking to the OEM items as I'm not going to do any track work, and the extra expense which I assume will no doubt come with having the 4 pots just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I must confess they do look better though!

Yeah they look awesome under the alloys. The gti should have come with better brakes from the factory as they are pretty poor and too small.
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: Matto on May 25, 2016, 11:57:01 pm
Calipers,carriers,disk,pads, dust shields  and brake lines

Dust shields aren't needed  :happy2:
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: bigmig95 on May 26, 2016, 02:13:00 pm
Front R32 conversion part numbers.

Fronts
LH CALIPER 1K0615123K
RH CALIPER 1K0615124K
CARRIER 1K0615125G qty 2
RETAINING SPRING 4F0615269 qty 2
PAD SET 1K0698151B
BRAKE DISC (345x30mm) 1K0615301M qty 2
LH SHIELD 1K0615311C
RH SHIELD 1K0615312C
FLEXI HOSE 1K0611701N qty 2
BOLT N10647602 qty 4
SCREW N90948802 qty 4
SCREW N91073301 qty 6
BRACKET 1K0611841A
BRACKET 1K0611842A
SCREW N90718601 qty 2
PIPE 1K0611763A
PIPE 1K0611764A
CLIP 191611715 qty 2

 :happy2:
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: Lewo on May 26, 2016, 07:59:12 pm
Front R32 conversion part numbers.

Fronts
LH CALIPER 1K0615123K
RH CALIPER 1K0615124K
CARRIER 1K0615125G qty 2
RETAINING SPRING 4F0615269 qty 2
PAD SET 1K0698151B
BRAKE DISC (345x30mm) 1K0615301M qty 2
LH SHIELD 1K0615311C
RH SHIELD 1K0615312C
FLEXI HOSE 1K0611701N qty 2
BOLT N10647602 qty 4
SCREW N90948802 qty 4
SCREW N91073301 qty 6
BRACKET 1K0611841A
BRACKET 1K0611842A
SCREW N90718601 qty 2
PIPE 1K0611763A
PIPE 1K0611764A
CLIP 191611715 qty 2

 :happy2:

Any idea of ballpark costs for that lot?
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on May 27, 2016, 12:22:26 pm
Thanks for all your replies guys.

Would S3 8p Calipers & Carriers fit? (sorry for the daft question)

What else aside from the brake lines and dust shields would I need for the above set up?

Thanks again,
Faz
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: rich83 on May 27, 2016, 12:25:40 pm
Yes they will fit

Calipers+Carriers
Dust shields
Brake lines
Discs
Pads
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on May 27, 2016, 12:33:06 pm
Thanks Rich!  :smiley:
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on June 06, 2016, 11:34:26 am
Anybody able to help me out with OEM part numbers for the brake lines to make the S3 brakes fit?

Are they the ones marked as Flexi Hose in the post by @bigmig95 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3271) above?

Thanks,
Faz
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: rich83 on June 06, 2016, 11:44:01 am
Anybody able to help me out with OEM part numbers for the brake lines to make the S3 brakes fit?

Are they the ones marked as Flexi Hose in the post by @bigmig95 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3271) above?

Thanks,
Faz

Typical... Ive just thrown some of these away.  :sad1:
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on June 06, 2016, 12:54:11 pm
Anybody able to help me out with OEM part numbers for the brake lines to make the S3 brakes fit?

Are they the ones marked as Flexi Hose in the post by @bigmig95 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3271) above?

Thanks,
Faz

Typical... Ive just thrown some of these away.  :sad1:

Never mind - I'm sure I can pick them up cheaply enough from TPS :)

I just need the part numbers :)
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: Shoduchi on June 06, 2016, 01:02:34 pm
Why not fit braided lines instead? From HEL, Goodridge or custom made, for example.
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on June 06, 2016, 01:15:17 pm
Why not fit braided lines instead? From HEL, Goodridge or custom made, for example.

I don't know which to buy? In terms of cost they are probably very similarly priced ~£30/40 for the pair. I've just seen a few threads on here where people have ha to make modifications to the connectors etc, and its not something I feel comfortable with on something like the brakes.

If you know of direct fit braided brake lines, I'd love to know which ones are a good fit :)

Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: Shoduchi on June 06, 2016, 01:19:59 pm
My mechanic had to modify the connectors of the HEL braided lines I got and I saw him replying in a different forum that all brands need some connector modifying to make them fit like the OEM ones. If you want plug&play lines I guess you'd have to buy custom made to your preference. The mod required seems simple but only for mechanics, I guess.
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: bigmig95 on June 06, 2016, 01:26:10 pm
Anybody able to help me out with OEM part numbers for the brake lines to make the S3 brakes fit?

Are they the ones marked as Flexi Hose in the post by @bigmig95 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3271) above?

Thanks,
Faz

They sure are  :happy2:
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on June 06, 2016, 01:29:13 pm
Anybody able to help me out with OEM part numbers for the brake lines to make the S3 brakes fit?

Are they the ones marked as Flexi Hose in the post by @bigmig95 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3271) above?

Thanks,
Faz

They sure are  :happy2:

Thank you :)

Are they the same for both sides?
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on June 06, 2016, 01:30:24 pm
My mechanic had to modify the connectors of the HEL braided lines I got and I saw him replying in a different forum that all brands need some connector modifying to make them fit like the OEM ones. If you want plug&play lines I guess you'd have to buy custom made to your preference. The mod required seems simple but only for mechanics, I guess.

That's the thing I had seen. I'm trying to do it myself and as I have no plans on tracking the car I don't think I will have any noticeable benefit in going for braided lines.
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: bigmig95 on June 06, 2016, 01:49:42 pm
Anybody able to help me out with OEM part numbers for the brake lines to make the S3 brakes fit?

Are they the ones marked as Flexi Hose in the post by @bigmig95 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3271) above?

Thanks,
Faz

They sure are  :happy2:

Thank you :)

Are they the same for both sides?

Yup.  You can use HEL but make sure they have the angled banjo onto the caliper for correct fitment.  Should be a photo on the forum somewhere, I've sold them before.

An OEM purchase off TPS might be easier for peace of mind ?
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: fazi123 on June 06, 2016, 02:05:31 pm
Anybody able to help me out with OEM part numbers for the brake lines to make the S3 brakes fit?

Are they the ones marked as Flexi Hose in the post by @bigmig95 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3271) above?

Thanks,
Faz

They sure are  :happy2:

Thank you :)

Are they the same for both sides?

Yup.  You can use HEL but make sure they have the angled banjo onto the caliper for correct fitment.  Should be a photo on the forum somewhere, I've sold them before.

An OEM purchase off TPS might be easier for peace of mind ?

Can i use HEL lines without any modifications IF they have the angled banjo for fitment onto the caliper? Or would I still have to do some modification to make them work?

Thanks again!,
Faz
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: Paradox1 on June 06, 2016, 02:44:22 pm
I was under the impression the only modifying you have to do is adjust where the braided lines click onto the securing bracket?
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: bigmig95 on June 06, 2016, 02:47:49 pm
Anybody able to help me out with OEM part numbers for the brake lines to make the S3 brakes fit?

Are they the ones marked as Flexi Hose in the post by @bigmig95 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3271) above?

Thanks,
Faz

They sure are  :happy2:

Thank you :)

Are they the same for both sides?

Yup.  You can use HEL but make sure they have the angled banjo onto the caliper for correct fitment.  Should be a photo on the forum somewhere, I've sold them before.

An OEM purchase off TPS might be easier for peace of mind ?

Can i use HEL lines without any modifications IF they have the angled banjo for fitment onto the caliper? Or would I still have to do some modification to make them work?

Thanks again!,
Faz

Buy the R32 HEL lines and you won't have to do any modding AFAIK
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: Shoduchi on June 06, 2016, 03:21:46 pm
I bought R32 HEL lines for my GT Sport and my mechanic had to get a different bolt for the lines. I complained but the store told me that they sold a lot with no issues. It was easily fixed and since then I had no issues with the lines.
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: grey golfster on June 06, 2016, 03:27:09 pm

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That's the thing I had seen. I'm trying to do it myself and as I have no plans on tracking the car I don't think I will have any noticeable benefit in going for braided lines.
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Imho you'd be mad not to go for upgrade to braided lines, particularly if it seems you'll need new hoses anyway?
You can feel the positive difference at the pedal, with the braids.
Title: Re: 345mm Front brake upgrade questions
Post by: v4rley on June 06, 2016, 04:00:09 pm
Speak with @vRSAlex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1981) (aks tuning) he will ensure you get the correct fitment and more than likely on his shelf  :wink: