MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: akbarirfan on May 28, 2016, 11:34:30 am
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Hi All,
I believe I have encountered the dreaded DSG flash of death.
I took the car MK5 GTI out, gears selected fine, got to where I was going and turned of the engine. Came back to the car about 10 minutes later and could not use any gear but first. The PRNDS letters on the highline display were flashing.
Car is now on 120,000 miles and the last DSG service (previous owner) was at 96,000 miles.
It is a 2006 (on a 55 plate) MK5 Golf GTI.
Error codes are as follows:
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl (car has a BWA engine)
Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 J HW: 1K0 907 115 F
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0020
Revision: --H14--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2961366
Coding: 040300031C070160
Shop #: WSC 00191 264 15243
VCID: 2D51EF3FB4E4E5760F5-8078
1 Fault Found:
005668 - MIL Request Signal Active (Check TCM for errors too!)
P1624 - 008 -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 193478 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 09:17:32
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 921 /min
Load: 22.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 83.0°C
Temperature: 39.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
Part No SW: 02E 300 043 C HW: 02E 927 770 AE
Component: GSG DSG 070 1111
Revision: 04507000 Serial number: 00000512080987
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 14275ADB378E54BE20B-8041
2 Faults Found:
18232 - Pressure Control Valve 3 (N217)
P1824 - 000 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 255
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 193317 km
Time Indication: 0
18154 - Transmission Solenoid Power Relay
P1746 - 000 - Electrical Malfunction - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 255
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 193478 km
Time Indication: 0
I have been searching for the threads I read about but can't seem to find the fault codes using the search (I have been on the forum for some time so have read about the issues and definitely recognise the fault codes!!!) so apologies for the duplicate thread.
I am based in Hampshire and need to get this resolved. I also had a R-tech DSG map.
Any ideas chaps?
The only company that comes to mind is Ecu Testing - are there any other companies a bit more local?
Thanks!
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Sorry to hear this buddy.
There's loads of info but you're not looking properly.
Here's a place in Notts
http://www.gearboxnottingham.co.uk/dsg-mechatronic-units.php
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http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4454479-How-to-fix-the-mechatronic-unit#/enter
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The only other reputable place I know of is in bristol.
Some guy off here ed 30 I won't go into detail as he's trying to sell it as dsg service done mint condition blah blah bull*hit. had in a local garage and the garage sent the mechatronic unit off to ecu testing who sent it back faulty so the mechatronic had to be taken off twice.
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Cheers mate - is this the place in Bristol?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182111822588?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I am trying to figure out how to get my car to any place that can sort it out - transporter or something?
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Hi Yes that's the place as have been given good reviews from other tt forum members so can't be bad.
You'll need to contact them to find out if they remove the box or if you would need to get it taken off and sent there.
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Place in nottingham called slaters fitted a new mechatronics for me under warranty.
They seem specialise in dsg gearboxes, they seemed to know their stuff maybe worth giving them a phone.
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UPDATE:
Sent the guys at Bristol Gearbox Centre my fault codes above earlier this week - they were sure it was the ECU at fault.
I and my car were collected from home at 6.15am on Saturday (yesterday) and off we went to Bristol for 8am.
The mechatronic unit was switfly removed from the car and was then opened up using a dremel. From what I understand, most of these faults arise from a bridge in the ECU breaking contact (e.g. the wire had come away from a contact at one end). Once open, each bridge was checked carefully for breaks - one was identified and completely replaced with copper wire and soldered in place. I got to watch this process on a screen connected to a magnifying glass (the technician was sat next to me). It was quite an interesting thing to watch as it was so fiddly!
I also got to see a "repaired" ECU that was still faulty from a competitor and was able to compare it to the quality of BGC.
The whole process took about 4 hours in total, I was able use a computer and play pool whilst waiting.
I would recommend the guys at Bristol Gearbox Centre after watching the meticulous nature of the technician fixing the ECU - plus this garage specialised in VAG gearbox problems and have a vast amount of knowledge.
Car is now back on the road and driving as good as before! I need to find out if the R-tech DSG remap I had on there needs re-applying.
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Thats a good result man. Did you find out who this competitor was so that we can avoid going to them.
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That sounds quite painless and very positive. If you don't mind me asking how much did this set you back?
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£450 for the repair, £1/mile for transport (which was 33% cheaper than any transport quote I found).
Raz I'm not sure of the competitor but there are less than five companies in the country doing this kind of repair.
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I told you these guys were worth it :signLOL:
Now we know the problem thanks to you I'd give it a go myself hoping never need to but it's with all electrics and I've read up on this when I purchased my car thay it's a simple job if you know how too.
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Yes as long as you can remove the ECU unit from the gearbox, then open it up (bearing in mind that you must seal it back up) and are handy with a soldering iron then it is quite straightforward - a lot easier with the magnifying glass screen set up!!
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Yes as long as you can remove the ECU unit from the gearbox, then open it up (bearing in mind that you must seal it back up) and are handy with a soldering iron then it is quite straightforward - a lot easier with the magnifying glass screen set up!!
Touch wood I don't have to do this but if I do ever go down this route then thank you for the extra info :drinking:
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No problems mate. Anybody tried fitting a new downpipe with the car on axels?
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£450 for the repair, £1/mile for transport (which was 33% cheaper than any transport quote I found).
Raz I'm not sure of the competitor but there are less than five companies in the country doing this kind of repair.
Thanks for the info, quite a bit cheaper then a new unit! Do they offer any sort of warranty with it?
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Warranty is 3 months for the ECU (as they open it up and seal it again) and lifetime for the bridge they put in place. They check all the bridges to see if they need repairing or are prone to imminent failure in order to take action there and then.
It was a very thorough job and I was glad that I had the opportunity to see it being carried out. I imagine most places wouldn't let you do that!
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That's the best thing about it. They actually you watch the process and even sit beside them still. excellent customer service technique they adhere to. :happy2: