MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: stevie_p on January 15, 2010, 10:31:14 pm
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just been pulled by the po po (unmarked skoda!!) for having illegal front window tints!!! he had a light meter and took readings saying they only let in 26% light, but it was 9pm and totally dark outside, so how would he get an accurate reading? :confused:
the windows were like that when i bought it from vw last year & i believe they are oem factory tints. had no idead they were illegal! anyway £30 fine & not too happy. ive a good mind to go back to vw and have a moan!!
shud be out catching REAL criminals. if my car got swiped tonight i wouldnt see them for 3 days!! :fighting:
rant over :smiley:
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i got pulled for mine a while back but he had nothing to test them with so just said they might be illegal as i am sure the tint on my fronts is legal but what make them wrong is oe factory tint makes them darker :laugh: look cool if u ask me
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VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.
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Front tints are illegal, regardless of darkness of tint.
UV film is the only film which you can fit to help lower UV light into the car on the front without getting stopped.
Will give you a kinda mirror look on the glass but wont make it darker inside. Stops people seeing you as easy inside the front of the car
whilst moving too.
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VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.
u sure? my tint guy said all golf have a slight tint to them and its the dark interior that makes them look darker
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VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.
They have a greenish blue tint to the fronts Nath, but just not privacy tints. :happy2:
Like Nath said though VW don't darken the fronts - only the rear from the B pillar.
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VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.
u sure? my tint guy said all golf have a slight tint to them and its the dark interior that makes them look darker
Only the same kind of blue/green tint you would get on a windscreen, and certainly not enough to only let through only 28% of light. :smiley:
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VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.
They have a greenish blue tint to the fronts Nath, but just not privacy tints. :happy2:
Like Nath said though VW don't darken the fronts - only the rear from the B pillar.
Indeedy! :wink:
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Front tints are illegal. regardless of darkness of tint.
UV film is the only film which you can fit to help lower UV light into the car on the front without getting stopped.
the copper that pulled me in an x5 had security film on his car and it adds a tint to there cars and he said there is no way around it for that type of film so if its illegal then you best go tell the cops :laugh:
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Tinting front windows is perfectly legal:
The UK Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 Act details the legality of window tinting in the UK - and as amended specifies the minimum levels of light that must pass through the windscreen and front side windows.
For a legal window tint in the UK the specifications are:
a) Motor Vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1985
b) The light transmitted through the windscreen must be at least 75%.
c) The front side windows (to either side of the drivers’ head) must allow at least 70% of light to be transmitted through them.
Does not matter if it is dark, the light meter that is carried has it's own light source so it's irrelevant.
HTH
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that what the copper said to me as DOMT has said :smiley:
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My old bus with carbon UV tints on the front incase youve not seen before.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi154.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs264%2Fphilmcavity%2FJodiandGTi019.jpg&hash=59558d7a7a2ffc3cb48e85409a812a802c4fd035)
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I dont agree Dom. The tint on the front of mine with darker rears is the limit you can go without going more then 75% .
Along with the fact that vw's glass in the GTi is already tinted to an extent.
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Steve, read what I posted - The front windscreen must let at least 75% of light through i.e. 25% tint and let 70% of the light through on the sides i.e. 30% tint. Law is pretty clear on this. See this VOSA document- http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Tinted%20Windows%20Oct%202008.pdf (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Tinted%20Windows%20Oct%202008.pdf)
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I have Dom, and read this update
and a law emendment in 2004..........
Important Notice: Car Window Tinting
Amendments to Legislation During the early part of 2004, Section 32 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations will be amended to include “Window Tint Filmsâ€, where such materials attached to the glass are capable of reducing the Visible Light Transmission of forward windows to below prescribed levels. These changes will be back-dated to become applicable from 1st January 2004.
This will effectively ban virtually all tinted films fitted to windows forward of the B-Post on any vehicle that is to be driven on UK roads.
The reason for these changes is the recent proliferation of vehicles that are excessively tinted. Some vehicles may be so heavily tinted that they present a real danger when used on public roads. The action being taken by the Government follows a fatality that occurred recently where a heavily tinted car was involved in a collision with a motorcycle and the window tints were held to blame due to the vision of the driver being impaired.
There is however, a recognised difference between “light window tints†which may be considered safe for road use and “excessively dark window tints†which are not.
There has also been a great deal of debate in recent years about the legitimacy of window tints that do not obscure the vision of the driver. A clear case has been argued that road-safe window tints do not actually conflict with existing regulations. The Department for Transport have argued however that Section 32 was always intended to cover materials attached to the glass, despite the fact that no mention of this is made in the Regulation itself.
The only solution remaining would be to amend the Legislation.
Consequently and in order to clarify the situation, the Government have finally decided to up-date the Regulations to specifically include Tinted Films since, in the view of the Police and the Department for Transport, this is the only way in which the problems of excessive tints can be remedied.
Unfortunately however, even tint films that may be considered to be safe for road use will now be viewed as in conflict with the Regulations, enabling the Police and Vehicle Inspectorate to take action against vehicle owners.
This has significant implications for the owners of vehicles that have window tints already fitted and also those that are responsible for installing or selling window tints.
Implications for the vehicle owner
After much discussion, a sympathetic Enforcement Policy has been agreed between the Department for Transport and The Glass and Glazing Federation to ensure that all vehicle owners that have had tints applied in the past may be dealt with fairly. This applies in particular where the infringement is with respect to tints that do not pose a significant threat to Road Safety, despite being in contravention with the amended Regulations.
In any event, after the date of the amendment to Section 32, the owner of a vehicle that has window tints applied forward of the B-Post could be challenged by either a Police Officer or by an Inspector from the Department for Transport’s Vehicle Inspectorate, where their vehicle is noticed being driven on Public Roads.
Where such a vehicle is stopped and the window tints applied are such that the Visible Light Transmission level, when measured using an approved device falls to below prescribed levels, the following enforcement guidelines have been agreed with, and recommended, by the Government.
Above 30% Visible Light Transmission (Less Severe Window Tints)
The owner or driver of such a vehicle would be required to have the tinted film removed from the windows under the direction of either a Rectification Notice or a Delayed Prohibition Notice. A period of grace will apply for a limited number of days (normally ten) during which time the vehicle may be driven whilst the rectification work is to be completed.
In either case, the vehicle will need to be inspected by either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer to confirm that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. Prosecution is unlikely in such circumstances provided the vehicle owner complies fully.
Action that needs to be taken
All Businesses that have supplied window tints forward of the B-Post are being encouraged by the Government and the Glass and Glazing Federation to contact all of their previous customers to inform them of the changes to Legislation and to offer them a chance to have their vehicle rectified by having the front tints removed.
As one of our existing customers, this is a service that we are happy to offer to you free of charge. It is also something that we can do for you while you wait to minimise any inconvenience.
I hope this clears things up. Pretty much means that any form of tint can be challenged by a jobsworth PC plod.
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That was a discussion on how the law could be ammended, the document I linked to is more up to date than that info as it is from Oct 2008. Agree to disagree on this one :happy2: You going tomorrow?
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Sunday mate , in the Bat Mobile with robin :scared:
:happy2:
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Interesting with your link Dom.....
its says....
If your selling a vehical with extra tinting applied to the windscreen or front side windows, the vehical may have glass that is darker then is permitted by construction and use regulations,in which case the vehical should NOT BE SOLD. :surprised:
Case to get your money back off them if it was sold like that.. The Fine impossed by that
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If selling a vehicle....... ??? Rest of your post has dropped off. Ahhhh am going tomorrow so will miss you and Robin :sad1:
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Who would drive around with dark sunglasses on at night ??? so why would you want dark tinted side windows same thing you can't see clearley.
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I had to get my front windscreen changed a couple of months back because of a stone chip.
Auto glass offered a the windscreen in green or blue tints... It's very subtle, not like the after sale or VW tints.
Hope that helps!
P.S. If anyone is wondering I went for blue.
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total jobsworth if you ask me. as i said sould be out catching real criminals. :signLOL:
heres an old pic of my car showing the windows, i dont think there fronts are at all excessive thats why ive never questioned them myself. i would never have had em done myself knowing they were illegal. as i sed bought from VW APPROVED garage like that :confused:
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look at mine
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they dont look excessive either. ive seen some stupid boy racer tints about that i can understand gettin pulled for. some of em are like blackout film!! :grin:
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range rovers are bad for it in bradford :laugh:
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Vw won't tint the fronts from factory but once the car is with them there is nothin stopping them getting a 3rd party in to tint the windows. The windows have a slight tint but we are talking hardly noticeable. If you got it from vw and its not legal I'd be going back and 1st getting any tint taken off and 2nd gettin them to pay the fine.
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Vw won't tint the fronts from factory but once the car is with them there is nothin stopping them getting a 3rd party in to tint the windows. The windows have a slight tint but we are talking hardly noticeable. If you got it from vw and its not legal I'd be going back and 1st getting any tint taken off and 2nd gettin them to pay the fine.
yeh i was thinkin about it but i bought the car from VW Crewe & i live 150 miles from there!
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Don't even talk to me about that dealer. The whole synter group is crap. Ring them and the will be too busy to talk 2u let alone replace their problem. I got mine from wrexham dealer which is a 50min drive, and I have yet to go get all the stuff sorted that was wrong from new.
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I'm not registered with my car in UK but when i went last time to the RR day in Surrey i got pulled over from some cops,
who wanted to immobilise my car because my windscreen was tinted so i had to remove them on the place but i dunno if they
were allowed to ask me to do this coz i'm actually only a tourist over here btw i m registered in Luxembourg.
For the 2 front windows they checked it with a machine which showed the how many light i will let trough but i failed again xD .. but i ould drove away without any fine but the windscreen tint removed =(. They told me if i were registered in the uk they could take the MOT away and fine me a 70£ . hope it helps
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my car was mot'd a couple of weeks ago by VW.no problems. no mention of tints. though i do believe it only affects mot if windscreen is tinted. mine is just the two fronts & rears.
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my car was mot'd a couple of weeks ago by VW.no problems. no mention of tints. though i do believe it only affects mot if windscreen is tinted. mine is just the two fronts & rears.
....I thought that it's only from behind the B pillars which aren't effected by the law.
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I'm not registered with my car in UK but when i went last time to the RR day in Surrey i got pulled over from some cops,
who wanted to immobilise my car because my windscreen was tinted so i had to remove them on the place but i dunno if they
were allowed to ask me to do this coz i'm actually only a tourist over here btw i m registered in Luxembourg.
For the 2 front windows they checked it with a machine which showed the how many light i will let trough but i failed again xD .. but i ould drove away without any fine but the windscreen tint removed =(. They told me if i were registered in the uk they could take the MOT away and fine me a 70£ . hope it helps
Why wouldn't they be allowed to make you do it. Whilst you are in the UK then you have to adhere to the UK road laws.
Probably did you a favour anyway as your car is safer now that you can see better through the front windscreen. :smiley:
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after seeing pako's car at Surrey RR day,although i only saw the glue left behind on the screen when he arrived!!.
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I'm not registered with my car in UK but when i went last time to the RR day in Surrey i got pulled over from some cops,
who wanted to immobilise my car because my windscreen was tinted so i had to remove them on the place but i dunno if they
were allowed to ask me to do this coz i'm actually only a tourist over here btw i m registered in Luxembourg.
For the 2 front windows they checked it with a machine which showed the how many light i will let trough but i failed again xD .. but i ould drove away without any fine but the windscreen tint removed =(. They told me if i were registered in the uk they could take the MOT away and fine me a 70£ . hope it helps
Why wouldn't they be allowed to make you do it. Whilst you are in the UK then you have to adhere to the UK road laws.
Probably did you a favour anyway as your car is safer now that you can see better through the front windscreen. :smiley:
Following the uk road laws is one thing! xD ... try my best but actually i see less now coz when it is too bright and it its even more dangerous when the sun is shining on wet surface when there is reflection =) but i dont see how british car are following rules in france for example xD ... i see only flashing light from speed camera in france when british registered cars are speeding trought them hahaha
after seeing pako's car at Surrey RR day,although i only saw the glue left behind on the screen when he arrived!!.
yes unfortunately this was after being caught and listening thme talking about how dangerous it is xD ....