MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: lukemk5gti on June 01, 2016, 02:30:28 pm
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So after much debating to and from I've decided to get my Monza II's diamond cut tomorrow.
Only one place in Ireland have the equipment to do it properly I believe and they've given me 5% off so all in it'll take 3 days and they'll give me wheels in the meantime. Little do they know, they'll be fitting my new tyres upon completion so that'll save me another €50.
All in its €475.
I wasn't sure about it for a while but the last diamond cut lasted at least 3 years so I'm going for it!
I'll upload photos when I get them back!
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I hope it gets properly done. For what I know it's not an easy job. :smiley:
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I'm debating it as well luke. You cant beat the diamond cut look finish IMO, although @Beej (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11339) got very very close.
I actually don't know if mine are saveable - they're in such bad condition (previous owner, honest). Does anyone know if theirs a limit to how damaged they can be?
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I wish I could get hold of the last owner and actually commend them because the last job was unbelievable! Hopefully this place will do a good job. Before I hand over anything I'll get confirmation from them and ask for previous photos...
@Peskyjones (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11854) I thought the same myself, the process removes just a mm or so off the front to bring up a clean face but if the kerbing is too deep I'm not sure what they can do about it!
The look of diamond cut in an underground car park is :jumping:
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Theyd need to take much more than a mm for mine! I'll post some pics soon...
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I'm debating it as well luke. You cant beat the diamond cut look finish IMO, although @Beej (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11339) got very very close.
I actually don't know if mine are saveable - they're in such bad condition (previous owner, honest). Does anyone know if theirs a limit to how damaged they can be?
Yeah, I'm very happy with the results, however, they still aren't diamond cut!
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@Beej (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11339) did you diy yours?
Link?
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Think he got them painted, just painted well :happy2: here are the pics
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fx291%2FB33J%2FIMAG0217.jpg&hash=260944ac4be2d2133db00aa09de244a41dd83e2c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fx291%2FB33J%2FIMAG0216.jpg&hash=b0772170ccfac7b21515d28bde8482d5c721ab5a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fx291%2FB33J%2FIMAG0218.jpg&hash=ac3b2b6194c4a953d891ab756e978acf1b6018ef)
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nu-luk wheels in my hometown of Carrickfergus has the gear to do them as far as I know. Don't think it'd be priced anywhere close to 475 eur though! Hope you get it looking well.
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That painting job is very good actually!!
That would cost about 70% of what I'm paying for diamond cut right?
That taking into consideration, I'll go diamond cut because although it might not have the same longevity, I'll get a good 2 years and who knows, I'll probably have a GTE or R then!
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They will last a long time if you look after them. Seal them like original and always keep them clean, only use the correct cleaner. Buy some winter wheels so the salt doesn't cause problems.
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Problem isn't sealing them too much it's stone chips. Sealing will help keep them clean and help prevent any penetrating corrosion from brake dust into the wheels through the clearcoat.
But you can't protect against stonechips unless you have them clear wrapped like paint protection film and it's stonechips that kill these wheels.
475 Euros is crazy I'd just get them painted or powder coating in a chrome type effect with black barrels for that! You can also buy some nice wheels .
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It is a lot of money, but if you coat them correctly and ensure that you keep on top of the maintenance it should last longer than the 3 years you had previously.
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it'd always be nice to get a set of winter wheels if you have monza's the salt in the winter along with all the bad weather is usually what murder's them
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As pesky mentioned and copied the pictures over, mine were painted two tone, I have some close ups , but I see to have problems uploading pictures to photobucket from my phone, so I will do it when I get a chance on my computer.
They are only painted, so as has been mentioned, stone chips and brake dust eating through is the problems, and I will without a doubt come into that problem in the future regardless of how much I seal and clean them. It's just cheaper having then done this way rather than re cut
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Pictures please
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Page 1 - pesky copied them over from my other post. Not bear my computer tonight to upload the close ups sorry
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Nah I'm on about Luke's pics of the diamond cut
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Nah I'm on about Luke's pics of the diamond cut
Getting the wheels back this day week and I'll update then!
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My Monzas are my winter wheels, for the last 4 years, suffered only a small amount of white worm. Sadly this week I think baby brain took over and now 2 are Kerbed :fighting:
So easy to clean for winters.
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Have to say I'm disappointed so far, wheels were supposed to be ready today (1 week) and now I'm told it'll be Saturday despite stating how urgent it was for me to have them by Friday at the absolute latest!
Photos will follow Monday
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that sucks mate. Hopefully they'll come back all spangly and it'll be worth the wait
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Sometimes delays happen and I'm sure you'd rather it come back a day late instead of a set of wheels that are unfinished or not in a presentable state.
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Sometimes delays happen and I'm sure you'd rather it come back a day late instead of a set of wheels that are unfinished or not in a presentable state.
I'm sure he'd rather they come back on time, in a finished and presentable state!
You pay for a service, you shouldn't be given a choice between coming back on time, or coming back properly done.
Agree delays do happen, and I guess it depends how often these delays happen with that particular company - whether or not luke should be disappointed with them. If its a one off, fair enough, but if its every other customer, you have a right to be disappointed - especially if you have made it apparent that you need them back within THEIR quoted time frame.
Lets just hope when they come back the extra day was worth the wait!
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Sometimes delays happen and I'm sure you'd rather it come back a day late instead of a set of wheels that are unfinished or not in a presentable state.
I'm sure he'd rather they come back on time, in a finished and presentable state!
You pay for a service, you shouldn't be given a choice between coming back on time, or coming back properly done.
Agree delays do happen, and I guess it depends how often these delays happen with that particular company - whether or not luke should be disappointed with them. If its a one off, fair enough, but if its every other customer, you have a right to be disappointed - especially if you have made it apparent that you need them back within THEIR quoted time frame.
Lets just hope when they come back the extra day was worth the wait!
Have to agree with @Peskyjones (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11854)
I mentioned my urgency and now I have to reschedule my plans and change my annual leave to suit. This was down to biting off more than they could chew, their workload is on whiteboard and he confessed he took on another separate set of Monza's last minute along with a range rover sport while I was there. It's a booking service which I planned a week in advance with them. 8 more wheels arrive at the door and because of this, mine are delayed!
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@lukemk5gti (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10176)
who is doing the wheels for you?
pm me if you dont want to name the company publicly.
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wefixalloywheels.com
Only place in rep Ireland that have the CNC lathe to do it. Other companies will do the work but they actually just take your wheels and subcontract it out to them regardless..
Have to say, the lads in there are absolute gentlemen in person. I'm just not happy with the delay.
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Sometimes delays happen and I'm sure you'd rather it come back a day late instead of a set of wheels that are unfinished or not in a presentable state.
I'm sure he'd rather they come back on time, in a finished and presentable state!
You pay for a service, you shouldn't be given a choice between coming back on time, or coming back properly done.
Agree delays do happen, and I guess it depends how often these delays happen with that particular company - whether or not luke should be disappointed with them. If its a one off, fair enough, but if its every other customer, you have a right to be disappointed - especially if you have made it apparent that you need them back within THEIR quoted time frame.
Lets just hope when they come back the extra day was worth the wait!
You've obviously never worked in a trade where things can unexpectedly go wrong lol.
Like you say it depends but presumably this is the first time Luke has used them and the point is they are going to be a day late, not a big issue.
Especially to be like "Have to say I'm disappointed so far, wheels were supposed to be ready today (1 week) and now I'm told it'll be Saturday despite stating how urgent it was for me to have them by Friday at the absolute latest! " then name and shame them, but say "the lads in there are well nice though"
:chicken: :confused:
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@lukemk5gti (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10176)
they used to trade under the name collins engineering.
rim solutions also offer the diamond cut service as they have the machinery.
have heard great things about rim solutions.
look up micksgarage gti on youtube,they had the wheels on their gti done by rim solutions.
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As per usual jay is on keyboard warrior duties :congrats:
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It doesn't matter if 1 in a 100 have a delay, if you are that 1 person you have the right to feel disappointed. They should compensate you in some way op
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As per usual jay is on keyboard warrior duties :congrats:
Keyboard opinion duties mate.
Its one days delay and you are posting up whining about it.
It happens!!! Try having to wait 2 months for something supposed to only take 1 month. :-)
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I did mine myself. Not diamond cut per se, but still turned on CNC lathe with aluminium insert.
Mine are actually the 17" Denvers which I sanded back, painted black and then machined to look like the 18" Monza/Detroits.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fj365%2Ftheturquoisewarrior%2FBEE4C895-9F1E-4F77-9E46-EFC61F10C94B_zps03qquq1g.jpg&hash=7042d80b0ed0cd95a43df129d53a45a097851643)
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1 day delay, I can understand the issue, but it's not much. Mine were done two at a time, the guy took 3.5 weeks to get two done after stating a week max!
Delays happen from time to time and can be outwith physical management
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Picked them up Saturday and I'm not very happy with them overall.
I specifically discussed the grey painted inserts with both of the lads in there. One of them mentioned doing a light grey and I specifically requested my dark grey LA7T I believe as I think it contrasts more. They agreed to do as I asked but when I picked them up they were done in the light grey. I did say it to him on the day and he just said "well the light grey is nicer". It doesn't matter what he thinks is nicer, I asked for the dark and paid for the service.
The painting also wasn't amazing, slight over spill around the inserts and poor masking lines on some of the straights compared to what they were. You can see a wave pattern on the top of the photo below where some of the paint hasn't been done right on the insert
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1047_zpskjjlzqh9.jpg&hash=98bfe37e059bfacb89ec9e50d35379dcec45c80a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1045_zpsyblekjyj.jpg&hash=6bde32424d42d42da88c6240b7d85236b5aa3783)
Overall I would not recommend their service for the price paid.
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Sorry to hear the Luke, I agree about the contrast of grey. But on the plus side, they do look good with your freshly painted calipers. Rubbish that they ignored what you asked :sad1:
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oh dear - i think i would have refused to accept them as they weren't as specified. Like you, i prefer the contrast of either dark grey or even the black inserts.
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If you had asked for the darker inserts then you should have not paid/taken them away until it was done to your specs .
Bit of a pain but on the plus side they look pretty good in the pics tbf.
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You know what it's like when you're excited to pick up a new thing! I was looking at them through rose tinted glasses and wasn't thinking straight. It literally only sunk in after I got back home!
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They look great. Shame they wernt exactly as you wanted, but you've got them now. Enjoy them, and chalk it up to experience.
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Yeah as above. They do look good, but agree with the darker bit also
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As the others have said, I actually like them. Darker inserts would like better, but they don't look that bad. Is it worth asking for some sort of refund or a gesture of good will from them?
Get some more pics of the wheels on the car.
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As the others have said, I actually like them. Darker inserts would like better, but they don't look that bad. Is it worth asking for some sort of refund or a gesture of good will from them?
Get some more pics of the wheels on the car.
Called them up today and was told there's nothing they could do. After a few minutes the best he could do was swapping my monzas with those of the next customer coming into him. He would give him mine and he would do up theirs to my specification. Although that is a good offer, I wouldn't be keen on someone else's wheels and I don't know if someone else would even agree to this.
What's your thoughts everyone?
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Would they guarantee someone else's wheels against being buckled and also genuine?
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I did mine myself. Not diamond cut per se, but still turned on CNC lathe with aluminium insert.
Mine are actually the 17" Denvers which I sanded back, painted black and then machined to look like the 18" Monza/Detroits.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fj365%2Ftheturquoisewarrior%2FBEE4C895-9F1E-4F77-9E46-EFC61F10C94B_zps03qquq1g.jpg&hash=7042d80b0ed0cd95a43df129d53a45a097851643)
Diamond cut. CNC turned. Same thing :happy2:
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Would they guarantee someone else's wheels against being buckled and also genuine?
This was one of my fears, or even the fact that some Monza's have deeper white worm than others depending on the severity of their damage. I could get a crap set with deep kerbing that have just been filled.
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Are some wheels past recovery? if that is case, then I think mine definitely qualify - mine are the worst I've ever seen :(
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Are some wheels past recovery? if that is case, then I think mine definitely qualify - mine are the worst I've ever seen :(
Not past recovery but from talking to him, apparently any deep kerbing over a few mm will need filling. He mentioned something along doing a line of weld but I can't see that working out well and even if it did look good there and then surely it wouldn't have the same longevity as a good set!
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Mate, no disrespect to you at all and the wheels do look O.K !! but after the money you've spent are you really happy with just O.K. ? You want the wheels the look stunning and also in the colour of your choice NOT theirs. Of course there is something they can do. They can take the wheels back and re-do them to your specification. They will look much better in a darker grey as it will separate the wheel more and therefore highlight the diamond cut effect. You'll never be 100% happy with them as they are, I'd definately be going back to them to get it sorted. Let us know how you get on in the end mate :happy2:
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Would they guarantee someone else's wheels against being buckled and also genuine?
This was one of my fears, or even the fact that some Monza's have deeper white worm than others depending on the severity of their damage. I could get a crap set with deep kerbing that have just been filled.
I think you needent worry to be honest... it's a fair offer they made and I can't imagine there being any issues.
It's exactly the same as buying used wheels and never had any issues there..
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Id be just driving back up and asking for them to be taken off and repainted in the colour you wanted!! You payed a lot to get them refurbed and could have got them done a lot cheaper but you payed for what you thought was gonna be a good job!!As for taking some one else's wheels theirs no actual way of making sure they give you back your own wheels anyway so that wouldn't bother me!!
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Ok I've left it a few days to think and I've decided I'm definitely not happy with the light grey inserts so I'm taking him up on his offer to replace them....
What I need to know is what is the exact colour code of the inserts does anyone know? I estimated close to LA7T, the colour of my car. It was just slightly lighter than this.
What colour have you lads gone for?
This is my old colour:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1244_zps2bawplug.jpg&hash=a86928583cde1fba1e913573ec72fdac7823e182)
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Doesn't matter if they look ok or not.
You asked for them a particular service and they took your money.
You haven't got that service, whats more, what they did provide was late and a bit shit.
It's not rocket science.
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I would prefer them with black inserts like the mk6 Golf GTI have.
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Audi titanium L8AU might look good for the inserts if you're getting them redone.
I had a set of monzas painted in L8AU:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/724/22250791769_cc5fe9eb5a.jpg)
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/591/22249678830_cbdce6ecf1.jpg)
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@FJ1000 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=12034) could just be the photo quality but I can hardly differentiate from the diamond cut face and the inserts on those photos. Is the entire wheel in Audi titanium L8AU?
I'm looking for the diamond cut face with the (what I think is called anthracite grey) inserts for contrast like my original set:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1244_zps2bawplug.jpg&hash=a86928583cde1fba1e913573ec72fdac7823e182)
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Ah, no - I was just trying to show you a darker grey colour that might look good for the inserts. I'm a big fan of the Audi titanium colour!
The images I posted are wheels that were painted, no diamond cutting.
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@lukemk5gti (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10176) did they paint the inserts afterwards. I'd be inclined to agree that wether or not they look ok, it's not what you asked for if they were dirt cheap then yeh fine but they weren't. It's the difference between going to McDonald's and getting a sh*tty Big Mac which looks nothing like the picture, and going to the ivy and getting exactly what you pay for.
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Hang on... I don't get it...
You go to them and order a specific colour and they paint it a different colour because THEY think it would look better.
You don't like it and want the colour that you ORDERED and the ONLY option is to swap the whole wheel with another customers?
Why isn't them repainting them an option? How is that not possible? They sound shocking.
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Pretty much exactly what happened yes. I'm not entirely happy with changing my wheels with someone elses but I've agreed that I'll call into him on Monday to examine the condition of the next wheels before they go in for any work. If they're in bits I'll have him redo mine entirely.
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Hang on... I don't get it...
You go to them and order a specific colour and they paint it a different colour because THEY think it would look better.
You don't like it and want the colour that you ORDERED and the ONLY option is to swap the whole wheel with another customers?
Why isn't them repainting them an option? How is that not possible? They sound shocking.
You missed out the paying for this non existing dervice :grin:
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@lukemk5gti (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10176)
i maent to say this to you earlier that a friend in work had his monza's done by the same crowd last year and the inserts are dark/charcoal grey so its not like they cant do it.
i will take a picture of them next time i see him and put it up in here.
the problem i find with insert colour on your wheels is that it is very hard to tell they are diamond cut as the insert colour is too similar to the face of the wheel.
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For what its worth mate we had our Monza's diamond cut refurbed last year and after seeing a few of the guys wheels on here we decided to go for black inserts instead of the original grey. They look absolutely fantastic and somehow seem to look a bit bigger than they did before. So its just something to think about before you get them sprayed again. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Not sure l'd be happy with someone else's wheels. You paid for a service where they refurb YOUR wheels, not an exchange service. They messed up by not following your instructions. I'd ask for your wheels to be redone or a full refund & take them elsewhere.
Maybe the other customer won't want someone else's wheels, if they tell them!
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For what its worth mate we had our Monza's diamond cut refurbed last year and after seeing a few of the guys wheels on here we decided to go for black inserts instead of the original grey. They look absolutely fantastic and somehow seem to look a bit bigger than they did before. So its just something to think about before you get them sprayed again. Good luck with whatever you choose.
i prefer the black inserts too.
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Mine have the inserts in back and I think they look well on the black!! Will deffo be done in black again when I refurb them
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Went in to meet them again yesterday morning and he has 4 wheels belonging to another customer.
They are painted in the EXACT grey that I wanted. Why couldn't he just admit that he did know what colour I requested but he just made a mistake.
So he gives me 1 of the 4 wheels (keep in mind this is before any work on them has taken place). It doesn't look bad so I agree to take that guys wheels as a swap for mine when the refurb is done.
Then I ask to see the other 3 which are moved aside. He shows me this:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1138_zpscoe4rck0.jpg&hash=0894fa04f8bd5d6ed8fff7a58818b239a4e24f05)
It's absolutely destroyed with white worm. Mine were hardly touched when I dropped them in so I tell him I'm not willing to take those wheels.
He then offers me another donor wheel from a different guy. At this stage I had enough. He's offering me 4 wheels in bits belonging to other people that don't even know their wheels are being offered up.
I told him I asked him to do my wheels in my spec and I won't settle so now he's agreed but I'll be making sure I get MY wheels back!
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So you're getting your original wheels done to the original spec you wanted? good stuff, well done for sticking to your guns
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So you're getting your original wheels done to the original spec you wanted? good stuff, well done for sticking to your guns
Exactly! Really it's what I should have done in the first place so thanks for the advice everyone :happy2:
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Do your wheels have any unique marking? If not I can guess whats going to happen here!
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Do your wheels have any unique marking? If not I can guess whats going to happen here!
They have markings such as 1K0 601 025 AH, AL SM2 Mg wa, BBS R0271, 05 45 057 so I'll just keep track of that. The other sets he had in there were BBS R04 something or other.
I'll tell him beforehand that I want my exact wheels back and I have photos of the markings to reference.
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All done. Wheels dropped off and inspected another set he's done in dark grey for reference.
Will get back in a week and post photos!
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Fingers crossed!
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indeed - fingers crossed! hope you get a result.
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Called them up as they're due for collection today. Needless to say I wasn't surprised when I was told there's another 2 day delay...
Friday it is!!
Anyway, I'm going to seal them before they get much use so advice please.
I don't need to glaze but since it does give it a wet look under the sealant should I still do a coat?
I'll do 2 or 3 coats of jetseal 109 correct?
I only have autoglym super HD wax. Do I need a different wax capable of dealing with high temperature?
Anything else I'm missing?
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just use a decent wax or coat in dlux.
don't get hung up on "wet look" it will look no different than if you use a qd on it. :wink:
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G techniq wheel armour is great stuff, if a bit pricey
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The wheels :wink:
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Picked them up this morning. It's exactly one month to the day when I dropped them off.
I'll start by saying, I will never recommend that company to anyone for the following reasons:
1) We had an agreed date and they were delayed.
2) Got them back and the inserts were not the colour I requested
3) They tried to give me donor wheels from 2 different owners (who did not know their wheels were being given away)
4) My wheels were being done a second time and they were again delayed
5) They bent my lock nuts with their impact gun (even pointed out by their fitter who was quickly told to shut up)
6) The manager had an argument with me upon collection when I asked about the damaged lock nuts and told me to leave the garage until the work was done.
7) The wheels the second time around although are the correct colour have minor flaws from dust getting onto the diamond face before the lacquer went on
Here is the final result:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1372_zpsanpjym04.jpg&hash=c5a8f86ad809a5f0dfda5d5ca85eab7584b6443f)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1373_zpsurc9z93w.jpg&hash=bab74c752cae00a6aaacb643d5df6130512e7220)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1374_zpsxxnk8cno.jpg&hash=6dccca0419b0ccff2aec073b504a32ac899d6702)
You can see three minor specs under the lacquer in this photo. Two look to be air bubbles and the third a bit of black dirt.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_1375_zps8ffu0uuj.jpg&hash=5e2f40df5b7756bf406ca3533a0c8d561ab6aeca)
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Yay, glad you got them and they're the right colour... What a journey! The actual diamond cut looks pretty good quality apart from the dust you already pointed out. What a shame they failed at so many other points.
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Looks like they have used a high feed rate when doing the diamond cutting although could be the magnification,I'd be worried about those air bubbles,any trapped moisture and it's only a matter of time before the whiteworm returns.
The calipers look fantastic.