MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: 182_blue on January 17, 2010, 04:17:33 pm
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Well after all this news of car thefts it gets you thinking about having more security installed, the only things i can think of that would help is tracking and or some kind of anti hijack device (one thats not just for anti hijack but allows keys to be used and car to be driven of by the crooks but after a short period the engine cuts out and leaves the stranded), so any thoughts, any ideas etc
ps, obviously be careful about advertising what security you have installed but perhaps advise on what you have seen on other mk5 golf :happy2:
i have always fancied something like this http://www.spalautomotive.co.uk/acatalog/SPAL_ANTI_HI-JACKING_SYSTEM.html
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Obviously all security helps but you really need to think about what your doing.
Ok lets say they break in and take your keys while your asleep. And with the device fitted you suggest they only make it a mile from your house, then have to leave your car.
Well whats stopping them coming back the next month right while your watching coronation street and holding a knife to your family members throat and telling you to switch all the devices off because your wife is coming with us and if the car stops this time your wife will get hurt.
I know its all what ifs and hypothetical but these twats spend half there lives on the inside and dont fear going back. :sick:
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^^yeh i do understand all of that but still where do you stop with making it easy for them ?, leave keys in car with a big sign on it :laugh: , anyway all the risks considered has anyone got any suggestions on the actual equipment that works on a mk5 :happy2:
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I see your point there but the people that are doing this are nothing special, they are little scumbags who use fear more than anything, I have seen very few that are big tough blokes, if any! I speak to a lot of people who say 'I'm glad I wasn't in or I would have been the one getting locked up...' and it really annoys me that people have that attitude, you have a right to defend your property/home and self most importantly and unless you do something excessive/disproportionate/unjustified then you are more than within your rights, you may be asked to account for your actions so be honest about what you do/did!
I would make as hard as you can for them and stick up for yourself! I would not give up my car keys without doing everything I could first! I understand some people will say 'its just a car' but for me I'ts more than that, I work hard for what I have ( quiet Beddie ) and no way am I going to let some f*ck take it without a fight, no chance! :fighting: :fighting: :mad:
I appreciate some people don't feel the same but thats me
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Probably a little extreme TC :laugh: but I know anything is possible with these kind of people.
Although they might get away with my car if they wanted I dont think I would sit back and do nothing...who's knows until your in the situation though.
One of the oldest I have heard from is the blackjax system - still around now.
What about a smoakcloak type one, now that would be cool. We had a smokecloak system fitted to our server room where I worked - filled the room thick with smoke in about 25-30seconds! Was well funny when we tested it.
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What about a smoakcloak type one, now that would be cool. We had a smokecloak system fitted to our server room where I worked - filled the room thick with smoke in about 25-30seconds! Was well funny when we tested it.
:surprised: :grin:
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We had it fitted in the ceiling - check out those servers eh!! Was 6+Yrs ago mind.
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I think were missing the point, surely you should be making it more difficult for them to get in your house? :confused:
Hasn't got to be Fort Knox as there are plenty of other places they could get in easily. Make it as difficult as possible, and if they do get in unleash hell!! :fighting: :fighting:
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Am I right in thinking that the only real way someone is going to make off with your GTI is by stealing the keys?
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get a rottweiler! a big dog is usualy enough to make em think twice before entering!!
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Am I right in thinking that the only real way someone is going to make off with your GTI is by stealing the keys?
Yes thats correct.
A lad i know works in a VW dealership they had a GTI traded in for cash with only one key. It was stolen off the pitch later that day with a key!!
Hence I take my key to bed every night and the spare is off site..
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I think were missing the point, surely you should be making it more difficult for them to get in your house? :confused:
Hasn't got to be Fort Knox as there are plenty of other places they could get in easily. Make it as difficult as possible, and if they do get in unleash hell!! :fighting: :fighting:
True but im not always at home and my car will be at various places with me carrying my young one etc, so sometimes the option of letting someone take the car only for it to fail a bit down the road might be handy
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I think were missing the point, surely you should be making it more difficult for them to get in your house? :confused:
Hasn't got to be Fort Knox as there are plenty of other places they could get in easily. Make it as difficult as possible, and if they do get in unleash hell!! :fighting: :fighting:
True but im not always at home and my car will be at various places with me carrying my young one etc, so sometimes the option of letting someone take the car only for it to fail a bit down the road might be handy
Absolutley, I'm not saying not to do anything to the car but just to make it as hard as possible for them wherever you are! :happy2:
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I think were missing the point, surely you should be making it more difficult for them to get in your house? :confused:
Hasn't got to be Fort Knox as there are plenty of other places they could get in easily. Make it as difficult as possible, and if they do get in unleash hell!! :fighting: :fighting:
True but im not always at home and my car will be at various places with me carrying my young one etc, so sometimes the option of letting someone take the car only for it to fail a bit down the road might be handy
Absolutley, I'm not saying not to do anything to the car but just to make it as hard as possible for them wherever you are! :happy2:
i do and will LOL
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i ordered the STS handset to go with my remap, holds stage 2 map, stage 3 map and an immobiliser map. Supposably impossible to start the car even with the key until you reset it with the handset.
Saying that bluefin hanset can immobilise the car and iirc the REVO SPS can do it as well
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If you have Revo you can always use the disable option on that - ok so anyone with a switch could re-enable but if you dont advertise you have Revo on there - how would they know...
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The end of the day, if the thiefs want sommat... they'll get it... no matter what security you try put up
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The end of the day, if the thiefs want sommat... they'll get it... no matter what security you try put up
Fair point - not a reason to do nothing though, chance theives will be put off.
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As I said don't really want to get into the for and against's, just really interested in methods of securing ones car via eletronic or mechanical means :-)
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Agree with Nousey - make your house/home impregnable and ensure your pride'n'joy is as safe as possible.
Having the car immobilised will only mean the thugs come back in again. Better for the car to be in valet mode and if the thugs say anything when they get the key, tell them it's f00ked and needs to go into a garage.
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i,m with aparoon on this one i,m afraid..... if they do actually get in they gonna find me and my fav length of bannister rail or my nun chuks ready to swing if they dont re think their strategy.
i work too fcuking hard to let some scumbag take what is my pride and joy and i would rather face the legal consequences than just give it away.
lucky my kids dont live with me so i have no worries there.
i know if they want it badly they will find a way but we should all make it as difficult as poss to let them as greenouse says!
but also now shouldnt car manafacturers be thinking of this as amajor problem and trying to help out-its a major usp they could use to sell with as well.
just my tuppence
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matsu
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i,m with aparoon on this one i,m afraid..... if they do actually get in they gonna find me and my fav length of bannister rail or my nun chuks ready to swing if they dont re think their strategy.
i work too fcuking hard to let some scumbag take what is my pride and joy and i would rather face the legal consequences than just give it away.
lucky my kids dont live with me so i have no worries there.
i know if they want it badly they will find a way but we should all make it as difficult as poss to let them as greenouse says!
but also now shouldnt car manafacturers be thinking of this as amajor problem and trying to help out-its a major usp they could use to sell with as well.
just my tuppence
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matsu
If manufacturers build things into the car then the crooks are ready and expecting it so come prepared for the problem.
Anyway has anyone got suggestion for actual devices to go on the car
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tell them it's f00ked and needs to go into a garage.
My god do theives test drive them now too - they come back if there not happy :happy2: :laugh:
Sorry 182, back on topic....
The valet mode is quite a good idea, might become a pain doing it every day. Garage your car surely has to be a good idea (where possible)
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tell them it's f00ked and needs to go into a garage.
My god do theives test drive them now too - they come back if there not happy :happy2: :laugh:
Sorry 182, back on topic....
The valet mode is quite a good idea, might become a pain doing it every day. Garage your car surely has to be a good idea (where possible)
How do you get valet mode ?, im gussing it involves alot of fannying around with Bluefin etc, which is why i thought something automated might be a good idea (or something like the Autowatch button)
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I see your point there but the people that are doing this are nothing special, they are little scumbags who use fear more than anything, I have seen very few that are big tough blokes, if any! I speak to a lot of people who say 'I'm glad I wasn't in or I would have been the one getting locked up...' and it really annoys me that people have that attitude, you have a right to defend your property/home and self most importantly and unless you do something excessive/disproportionate/unjustified then you are more than within your rights, you may be asked to account for your actions so be honest about what you do/did!
I would make as hard as you can for them and stick up for yourself! I would not give up my car keys without doing everything I could first! I understand some people will say 'its just a car' but for me I'ts more than that, I work hard for what I have ( quiet Beddie ) and no way am I going to let some f*ck take it without a fight, no chance! :fighting: :fighting: :mad:
I appreciate some people don't feel the same but thats me
...........same here,i would like to see one of the little barstewardss try & take my GTI without a fight.
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tell them it's f00ked and needs to go into a garage.
My god do theives test drive them now too - they come back if there not happy :happy2: :laugh:
Sorry 182, back on topic....
The valet mode is quite a good idea, might become a pain doing it every day. Garage your car surely has to be a good idea (where possible)
How do you get valet mode ?, im gussing it involves alot of fannying around with Bluefin etc, which is why i thought something automated might be a good idea (or something like the Autowatch button)
Have you spoken to SC about this Shaun?
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although not strictly on topic.
I would also consider as Greenouse said home security.
upvc doors being your first point of weakness.
disklock for car (clows them down or puts the casual thief off)
drive posts , or wheel locks (like for caravans)
all help but its a balance between security and being able to live your life.
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No, why ?
tell them it's f00ked and needs to go into a garage.
My god do theives test drive them now too - they come back if there not happy :happy2: :laugh:
Sorry 182, back on topic....
The valet mode is quite a good idea, might become a pain doing it every day. Garage your car surely has to be a good idea (where possible)
How do you get valet mode ?, im gussing it involves alot of fannying around with Bluefin etc, which is why i thought something automated might be a good idea (or something like the Autowatch button)
Have you spoken to SC about this Shaun?
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No, why ?
tell them it's f00ked and needs to go into a garage.
My god do theives test drive them now too - they come back if there not happy :happy2: :laugh:
Sorry 182, back on topic....
The valet mode is quite a good idea, might become a pain doing it every day. Garage your car surely has to be a good idea (where possible)
How do you get valet mode ?, im gussing it involves alot of fannying around with Bluefin etc, which is why i thought something automated might be a good idea (or something like the Autowatch button)
Have you spoken to SC about this Shaun?
With regard use of the Bluefin handset as a security device??
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Bluefin does offer a security mode. :smiley:
http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=80
Towards the bottom of the page. I believe it takes 10 to 15 mins same as adding a map though.
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What about a smoakcloak type one, now that would be cool. We had a smokecloak system fitted to our server room where I worked - filled the room thick with smoke in about 25-30seconds! Was well funny when we tested it.
:surprised: :grin:
If you have a GTD then its highly likely it wont get stolen going by VC's video
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Agree with Nousey - make your house/home impregnable and ensure your pride'n'joy is as safe as possible.
Having the car immobilised will only mean the thugs come back in again. Better for the car to be in valet mode and if the thugs say anything when they get the key, tell them it's f00ked and needs to go into a garage.
Indeed , thats what i would say.
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No, why ?
tell them it's f00ked and needs to go into a garage.
My god do theives test drive them now too - they come back if there not happy :happy2: :laugh:
Sorry 182, back on topic....
The valet mode is quite a good idea, might become a pain doing it every day. Garage your car surely has to be a good idea (where possible)
How do you get valet mode ?, im gussing it involves alot of fannying around with Bluefin etc, which is why i thought something automated might be a good idea (or something like the Autowatch button)
Have you spoken to SC about this Shaun?
With regard use of the Bluefin handset as a security device??
oh i see, thought you had some secret info on it LOL
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Bluefin does offer a security mode. :smiley:
http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=80
Towards the bottom of the page. I believe it takes 10 to 15 mins same as adding a map though.
yeh i wont be doing that then :laugh:
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Deffo big dog.
Trained to bark when it hears a noise.
Puts off all but the most determined scum.