Post by: r5gtt on July 05, 2016, 09:23:40 pm
first they scratch my bonnet lifting my wipers up as it's parked at the road side down the road and secondly one pri** is getting irritating and in my face all the time.
The other pro** swore at me and said not to talk to him or he'll sort me out :confused:
Post by: rich83 on July 05, 2016, 09:29:57 pm
Post by: r5gtt on July 05, 2016, 09:32:07 pm
Move jobs?only been a month and it started this week :sad1:
Post by: rich83 on July 05, 2016, 09:40:39 pm
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Post by: Carpy25 on July 05, 2016, 09:43:12 pm
Rob
Post by: r5gtt on July 05, 2016, 09:48:23 pm
Keep a log of what happens. Then speak to your boss.I will do thanks
Sounds like you have jumped from the frying pan into the fire.You could have a word with the boss about it but can make things a lot worseYes seems that way maxi I can't belive what happens this morning and the way these pri*** are treating me. seems like they want me out but for what reason I don't know.
is it a small company or a big company with an on site HR department , are the people doing the bullying your bosses or the same level as you are they bullying anyone elseIt's a small company Rob, I just couldn't belive what the guy said to me this morning when I asked him if he knew who pulled my wipers up and before I could say another work he went all aggressive on me :confused:
Rob
They are fitters like me and no one else is being bullied but me. one pri** keeps coming over to where I work and making silly comments about how fast I'm fitting the cars and how good it looks sarcasm if I'm not wrong as the silly comments about other things are making me wonder what's going on.
Post by: Carpy25 on July 05, 2016, 10:12:32 pm
One thing you could try is next time your all sat having a tea break ask him calmly and firmly why he's bullying you in front of his peers and make it clear you don't like it , I'll put a bet he's doing it or has done to everyone
Good luck keep your chin up and don't let the barstewards win
Rob
Post by: r5gtt on July 05, 2016, 10:27:11 pm
I spoke to him a few times and he always calls me bruv and also told me he has cancer ad he drinks too much it for some reason he went off on one and I don't think it's a good idea to try talk to this psycho again as I'm not thay big a guy to handle his weight. I'll probably need a 2lb hammer in my hand to keep me from harm.
They have all been working together for years so I'm the newb and the other fella Steve who started two weeks ago but no one says anything to him as his around 50 years of age and I look like a kid so I'd be the one who gets bullied plus I'm non Caucasian not thay it should make a different but sadly.
Post by: Carpy25 on July 05, 2016, 10:44:56 pm
Rob
Post by: TAPPY on July 05, 2016, 11:00:36 pm
No seriously though just keep a record of what's going on as your boss will have to do something about it. And like said get a dash cam fitted ( one with motion detect) then you will have evidence for your boss or the police for criminal damage to your car.
Post by: r5gtt on July 05, 2016, 11:09:20 pm
Headbutt!!!!Cheers bud these guys are being barstuards for some reason mainly two of them. I'll order a dash cam and thr guy at the shop also has a camera and he said he'll only show the police the video.
No seriously though just keep a record of what's going on as your boss will have to do something about it. And like said get a dash cam fitted ( one with motion detect) then you will have evidence for your boss or the police for criminal damage to your car.
Post by: Juliand on July 05, 2016, 11:16:00 pm
I'll probably get shot down for saying this, but pussyfooting around ain't gonna work with these morons. They probably think you're a threat to them - work-wise. I always remember the example my dad told me about from when he worked in the coal mine in the 50's, with my uncle, who had a disability. Someone was taking the mick out of my uncle's disability and my dad knocked the pratt into next week. Never happened again. A very different era, and easier to say than do, but some things don't change.
You gotta make your own mind up if it's for you though.
Post by: r5gtt on July 05, 2016, 11:26:52 pm
Seriously speaking I'm more worried about getting locked up for something I'll regret doing although I felt like doing it today. My 2lb hammer is close by too. the barstuard keeps coming up to me and making silly comments so I'm guessing they want to out. I'm going to byed my time there whilst looking for another job and also speak with my manager but I know this is going to aggrevate things.
Post by: Scottymon on July 06, 2016, 12:13:42 am
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Post by: Adam0604 on July 06, 2016, 01:31:08 am
Fully understand it's probably not easy when they're chatting sh*t to you everyday, but just laugh it off.
Failing that, get witty against them and baffle them, as they sound like they have the IQ equivalent of a sloth.
As others have said, log it, record it, and go to the boss if it doesn't die a death after a few weeks.
If they touch your car, then fxck it, smash the lad in with a tool somewhere off camera if you don't think you'll take him 1 on 1. Not your hammer, can relate back to you. Obviously this would be last resort.
Disclaimer: I can not be held responsible for any actions or repercussions from your actions if you do this Lmaooo.
Post by: Trow81 on July 06, 2016, 08:29:20 am
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Post by: Juliand on July 06, 2016, 08:59:47 am
There may well be repercussions whatever you do, so try to keep your head down and get on with the job, while you carefully think through your options. Maybe you could build an alliance with this new older guy - he's probably seen it all before.
A very difficult situation and no easy answer. Job hopping doesn't look great on your CV either.
Post by: Stupots on July 06, 2016, 09:08:24 am
There is also the fact that people that have been in a job a long time without any career progression don't work as hard as a fresh faces newb trying to make an impression, so that probably worries them.
Best of luck here, keep notes as already said, don't do anything back, don't do any pranks, keep it professional and work to your standard not theirs!
Cheers
Stu
Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 10:09:51 am
Mate you've definitely got to give it them back verbally no doubt about it, but carry on with your work, once they start giving you grief without any response you're fair game. f*ck that, get the video evidence, do your job, stand up for yourself and also look for a new job... all bases covered. Good Luck!When he does come over I give back the sarcasm but it's a constant thing. Aircon man came in yesterday and the bast*** made an indian comment about someone breaking the Aircon machine. It was actually the guy called jerry who turned off the bottle tap inside the machine as he thinks he knows what he's doing. going to but a spy cam and got a recorder already from ages back but never used it. time to sort this out.
Just crack on with your work and ignore them. They'll get bored of it eventually if you don't rise to their bait.I'm doing just that Adam0604 doing my work amd trying to ignore the crap but I think it's getting a little out of hand now and I need to record this as mentioned and take this further legally as I don't want to get involved in cracking the pri** over the head as this is the only way it will really stop or get battered trying to stop this and I'm not allowing myself to get hit for sure so something to knock the pri** out will have to be if worst comes to worst :sad1:
Fully understand it's probably not easy when they're chatting sh*t to you everyday, but just laugh it off.
Failing that, get witty against them and baffle them, as they sound like they have the IQ equivalent of a sloth.
As others have said, log it, record it, and go to the boss if it doesn't die a death after a few weeks.
If they touch your car, then fxck it, smash the lad in with a tool somewhere off camera if you don't think you'll take him 1 on 1. Not your hammer, can relate back to you. Obviously this would be last resort.
Disclaimer: I can not be held responsible for any actions or repercussions from your actions if you do this Lmaooo.
Post by: Pesky jones on July 06, 2016, 10:22:22 am
Dash cam to protect your car – it might be an unwanted expense, but it could prove crucial and it might also help you out in the future in general.
Don’t ignore them completely, just don’t raise to it (don’t show any sign its upsetting you – don’t get angry etc).
Don’t do anything at all remotely illegal.
Log & record everything
Hope it turns out alright mate
Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 10:32:40 am
@r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199) as a manager pal I wouldn't stand for that sh"t if one of my guys was bullying another. As others have said gather tangible evidence against the offending parties. Also test the water with a bit of banter in case they are trying to suss the new guy out. Speak to this Steve to see if he had any issues at least then someone who is not directly involved will be aware and can be called upon later if needed. Regardless if it's a big company or small ur rights are the same and by law they will have procedures they have to follow. Gone are the days of what i used to call back door chats where u could go out for a fag tell them what's what and sort it. Now it's all HR. Find out who is in a union and ask for advise. Ultimately don't rise to it physically as tempting as I would be to sort the little pr""k out it will be them that will come out on top wen u lose ur job. In my experience bullying is born out of jealousy maybe ur car or how good u are at ur job making them look bad. U got a new job for a reason stick to ur ethics u can't move every time something happens. That's my management spiel anyway. Failing that give us all a shout and we will turn up 50 strong surround the building with the Golfs and have an anchor man style fight scene lol hope it works out palHello @Trow81 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=12732) Steve has only stared 3 weeks ago and he hears a lot of this bul*shi* and I even tell him that these guys are being childish but he just said ignore it mate. You're right I should stick to my ethics and just carrying on doing my job and also the fact that I also think this Vincent drives a sh*tty rx8 and he's jealous of me having no experience in the strip fit scene and because I'm fast at what I do he can't take it and has started taking the wizz as I felt an uneasy feeling when he started asking me questions about my previous experience and when I mentioned not being a fitter he may have taken offence that I'm getting paid well and not having this licence he speaks about. I wish I had an army to go down there and grab a few throats as people in this world can be so cruel for no reason at all or as you said jealous of me if that is the case.
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Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 10:41:08 am
Hmmm. You mentioned this is a small place, but with two of you being new, that sounds like a lot of staff turnover - relatively. I wonder if they've been giving other fitters the same treatment, and the boss might be aware of it. Might just be testing you out to see how far they can push you - who know what motivates these idiots.I seriously thought I'd be happier here with no stress and just get on with life working my way through and just trying to be a nice guy but people don't see it that way as I do give as good as I get with this one pri** but most of the time I make him look stupid as when he says something dumb I just blank him and walk off :signLOL: reverse psychology :wink: play him at his own game here. I'll keep my head down and prod on and see what happens but liken others have kindly mentioned get this recorded I will definitely do this. Yes this place keeps losing staff as another fellow colleague has left for holidays and he said he's not coming back. he has his reasons due to being forced into being self employed by the MD and he's been with the company 15 years. nice fellow along with the Chinese bloke Sam who's has unfortunately gone back home due to his mother being very sick :sad1: this Sam helps me put alot without the need to ask as he knows I'm no expert so he walks over to my unit and helps me. Hope he comes back as the others maybe taking the p more due to lack of the others being here.
There may well be repercussions whatever you do, so try to keep your head down and get on with the job, while you carefully think through your options. Maybe you could build an alliance with this new older guy - he's probably seen it all before.
A very difficult situation and no easy answer. Job hopping doesn't look great on your CV either.
Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 10:55:08 am
One thing, do they know or could they have figured out that you use these forums? Ignoring the fact of what's being discussed in this thread, I think you posted what wage you would be earning when you got offered the job, maybe they saw that and if it's higher, then that is why the bullying has started? Also a lot (and before I get shot down; NOT all) of fitters/garages seem to have this culture of offensive banter, spraying each other with grease guns, hiding tools, disabling cars, swearing, (not so)jolly japes etc... It's not an excuse, I'm just saying. The likelihood is that the wiper thing was just supposed to be a prank and they did not intend to damage your car, it does not make it right, just saying.No mate they won't be on here for sure.
There is also the fact that people that have been in a job a long time without any career progression don't work as hard as a fresh faces newb trying to make an impression, so that probably worries them.
Best of luck here, keep notes as already said, don't do anything back, don't do any pranks, keep it professional and work to your standard not theirs!
Cheers
Stu
Salary and telling people on here isn't meant to show off but make sure I'm earning the correct salary and happier now I can afford to live.
These guys know the basic wage of a fitter at this establihment as I asked what do fitters get and he replied £15-18 an hour and I replied I don't even cone close just to keep him happy but he's been there 10 years so knows what's what imho. There's banter which we've had but there sarcasm and in your face kind of shi** I'm not liking and I don't believe I'm being tested as a newb as I'd know the difference mate. I'm 41 but small in frame and Asian so assuming this is the reason I'm being bullied along with a few other things coming to mind. I've scratched a few panels here and there so they call me scratchy :signLOL: no matter I don't mind that but taking the pi** isn't something I appreciate in any case. This jerry bloke who said he'll sort me out if I talk to him was out of order and he called me a cheeky c**t for some reason and I don't even talk to him unless I want the trolley jack or a clip for a car. Why he did this is unknown as he calls me bruv bruv or did call me that. I'm getting the feeling that Vincent character is stirring some shi** to people as he keeps on lookomg at me when talking with others and others are also lookomg at me in a strange way at this point
Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 11:03:15 am
As others have said, I can’t see this being a bad course of action.Thanks Pesky mate, I'm keeping it real and doing the ignorance things and even blanking him when he says shi** to me. I'm not getting angry or showing him any signs of anger as I'm generally a clam person unless seriously provoked and still I try breath and carry on even though I wanna smack the bast*** across the head with my hammer.
Dash cam to protect your car – it might be an unwanted expense, but it could prove crucial and it might also help you out in the future in general.
Don’t ignore them completely, just don’t raise to it (don’t show any sign its upsetting you – don’t get angry etc).
Don’t do anything at all remotely illegal.
Log & record everything
Hope it turns out alright mate
Post by: GTIEagles on July 06, 2016, 12:14:51 pm
But I would never be out of money because of the tossers so get another job lined up first before leaving.
As for payback, I would do something equally as bad to their cars and leave the rest to karma :happy2:
Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 12:47:30 pm
Life's too short to put up with that crap. Have you tried looking for similar jobs in the area? I'm not one to walk out when the going gets tough but even if the bullying does stop do you think the work atmosphere will ever be the same? Especially if the bully's just get away with a slap on the wrist.I've not as I'm not trained in this field although the money is better than your average service technician shi** job working like a dog and ending up with naff all to show for it.
But I would never be out of money because of the tossers so get another job lined up first before leaving.
As for payback, I would do something equally as bad to their cars and leave the rest to karma :happy2:
Yes even if I told management they'd probably just get a slap in the face I'd hope and that's that. Atmosphere isn't and will not be the same again I know this for sure.
That's why I'm not going to just walk out of the job as I'm thinking this is what the tea pots want. I'll be searching for new employment asap as I don't think this is the place for me any longer. So much for wan**** at thr work place. PAYBACK :grin:don't you worry mate patience is a virtue. :happy2:
Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 01:18:43 pm
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Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 02:09:04 pm
Will sort things out with a new job and then tell the manager I'm gone and will go straight away as people like that are a joke to society who go around bullying the vulnerable.
Post by: Deako on July 06, 2016, 02:46:18 pm
Post by: r5gtt on July 06, 2016, 02:56:04 pm
Sorry to hear this. But out of interest, what type of fitting?Crash damaged cars mate.
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Post by: bbfb10 on July 11, 2016, 03:08:17 pm
Post by: r5gtt on July 11, 2016, 05:22:37 pm
Thanks for asking @bbfb10 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=8716) :drinking:
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Post by: r5gtt on July 11, 2016, 06:19:30 pm
Thanks again for asking as much appreciated.
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:phew:
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Post by: r5gtt on July 11, 2016, 07:29:29 pm
Some people don't progress beyond the nursery stage do they? It's pathetic.That's what I thought but now he's eased off and the other tw*t doesn't talk to me but who cares as long as I do my job and people leave me alone. :smiley:
Glad to hear this is sorted mateThanks a lot :happy2:
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Post by: 4ndy on July 11, 2016, 09:00:01 pm
Post by: Trow81 on July 11, 2016, 09:36:06 pm
Sorted? Damn I was hoping for a happier ending You know. Slip in the sh*tter, Bahco to the skull.
This nearly made me choke on my pizza
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Post by: r5gtt on July 11, 2016, 09:56:11 pm
:signLOL: I nearly choked on my cough :sick:Sorted? Damn I was hoping for a happier ending You know. Slip in the sh*tter, Bahco to the skull.
This nearly made me choke on my pizza
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Post by: Bozz on August 04, 2016, 07:43:09 pm
Post by: r5gtt on August 04, 2016, 08:01:20 pm
Yes they are like sheep but have calmed down a lot. One guy who swore at me doesn't talk to me but f*** it as long as he doesn't bother me.
The other guy talks to me now but I donr trust anyone.
Post by: Bozz on August 04, 2016, 08:12:53 pm
I have no idea at all.. Glad things are a bit better mate, I had a few problems a while ago with so called work mates mainly to do with my belief and support,, I just did my job and kept my head down But I will not change what I believe in, good luck mate (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fr602%2Fbozz30%2Fimage_zpsiqetc3er.jpeg&hash=82774cb18e6ea79a3bea2cc27a9874ee3f0ed08e)
Yes they are like sheep but have calmed down a lot. One guy who swore at me doesn't talk to me but f*** it as long as he doesn't bother me.
The other guy talks to me now but I donr trust anyone.
Post by: r5gtt on August 04, 2016, 08:19:03 pm
Thanks Bozz, really appreciate the concern mate. people can be vicious and it could well be my beliefs but can't say for sure.I have no idea at all.. Glad things are a bit better mate, I had a few problems a while ago with so called work mates mainly to do with my belief and support,, I just did my job and kept my head down But I will not change what I believe in, good luck mate (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fr602%2Fbozz30%2Fimage_zpsiqetc3er.jpeg&hash=82774cb18e6ea79a3bea2cc27a9874ee3f0ed08e)
Yes they are like sheep but have calmed down a lot. One guy who swore at me doesn't talk to me but f*** it as long as he doesn't bother me.
The other guy talks to me now but I donr trust anyone.
I wouldn't have thought this happens much but I guess you've proved me wrong.
Cheers :drinking:
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I don't know you but you sound better and stronger than than so good luck and take my friendYou're a top bloke Bozz, we really need more people like you in this world who don't care what you are as long as you're humane :love:
I've learnt that in this world there are sick evil and twisted people who pollute people's brains with lies and false information the media being one of them. :slap: :mad: :fighting: :fighting2: to those people.
I had it at work today and had to tell the guy what's what and he swiftly changed the subject.
Post by: Bozz on August 05, 2016, 09:24:46 pm
Whats with the pic @Bozz (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15226) ?Hi mate, It was just to point out the main reason I was getting so much sxxt at work,, Because of something I strongly believe in,
Post by: r5gtt on August 05, 2016, 10:05:40 pm
Whats with the pic @Bozz (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15226) ?Why pesky you jealous :P
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Post by: Flyingscotsman on August 06, 2016, 09:39:54 pm
No matter what we are or even who we are,, We are all in the VW family on here
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